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Ioannes:
Another classic evasion tactic. Throw in a red herring to distract us from the main point we're talking about.

We're talking about Mohammed and how he loved underaged puna and how he slept with his daughter-in-law, and how he wrote the original Satanic verses that told people they can worship many gods and then later recanted and said it was the devil that appeared to him to deceive him,

And how he encouraged the subjugation of women (till today women are forbidden to drive a car in Saudi Arabia and you can't enter Dubai if you're an unaccompanied female of less than 25years old (or maybe 21, I forget now).

You only need to ask around. The perversions of your prophet are so well documented in history it's difficult to miss them.

That's what this thread is about. Oya, defend your prophet.

plainbibletruth:
If you're man enough why not comment on the table presented. What are your views on the comparisons?

Empiree:
Obviously you are a waste of time. You do not learn by talking trash what you considered "facts". So be in your world.


Allow me to throw this in your face since you so much about comparison by picking texts against each other.


How do you like this? So Much With Your "peaceful religion"

Bonjour

DanXplore:
Waiting...

Empiree:
Your priority is confusing to me. So making American great is more important to u than making your country Nigeria great?. humm i hail thee

Haroun13:
The thread being moved is not my doing.


I never made such a statement. Rather, what I said is that it is cowardice and stupidity to blame something clearly done by a Christian, with support from the bible, on an Atheist. Simple and short.
A Muslim kills, you say he is a true Muslim. Yet, a christian kills, instead of also saying he is a true Christian, you say he is an atheist. Such nonsense.

You are so ludicrous. Your brothers are killing millions, keep telling yourself they are atheists.
#SelfDeceit.

The only verse you brought has been explained. Also, my promise to give two violent bible verses in return still stands. Also, as a bonus, I may give an x-rated verse of the bible in addition.

Yet the Qur'an says the closest to Muslims are Christians. You have no point.

Because your bible allows people to kill for things like glory, honour and other meaningless things does not mean that the Qur'an allows people to kill, for such. Please, be reasonable.


The same bible that allows you to kill for glory and honour? Nonsense.

Do you mean my exams?

Yet he lived for 3-4 years after, and completed his message.

OK.

I want to appeal to the mods to make this thread open for all to make comments.

Salaam.

aminusanti:
Blind follower, I don't know when u pple will get some sense..you are here lying on how prophet mohammad died
did u ever sit and read how ur God(jesus) died?
According to u pple Jesus was crucified and killed like an arm robber after crying and asking his God himself to save himself...

Deuteronomy 21:22–23
teaches that there was a divine curse placed on a hanged person: “And if a man has committed a crime punishable by death and he is put to death, and you hang him on a tree, his body shall not remain all night on the tree, but you shall bury him the same day, for a hanged man is cursed by God. You shall not defile your land that the LORD your God is giving you for an inheritance”.

Cursed Is Any Man Who Hangs On A Tree so, in other words Jesus was a cursed man...brainless fellowers

sissoko22:
Yet another loosed feller, acting knowledgeable but knows nothing of his own religion. Instead of proving me wrong, you're doing the same thing other xtian brothers will do, run away from the question. For me it's not a new experience.
For the record, no Muslim(s) has or will ever attribute the quality of Almighty Allah to Muhammad (SAW) but only a messenger of Almighty Allah.
As for the poison, its obvious that every man will not die the same way. They'll be death due to accident, illness, and in fact Jesus (PBH) was killed on the cross according to xtian. If a son of God could be killed on the cross, then it's easier or possible for a prophet of God to die of poison.

sissoko22:
Yes, brainwashed I said. When you can't explain some thing as simple the foundation of your believe (Trinity) or the sonship of the Creator. How do I take you for a serious when you don't make findings or ask questions but choose to follow ignorantly.

aminusanti:
No am not
yes we are following d instructions as u said to get rid of you people all and you should follow your instructions as well by givin d other chic if other side got slapped, so when we kill your brother you should give us more to kill, if you are true jesus worshiper u wld do dat.

Seun:
It's not clear from the quoted text that God promised the safe return of muslims from hajj. There are real issues, but this isn't one of them.

Haroun13:
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There is nothing to prove. According to your mentality, Christian terrorists are practising Christianity better than moderates like you, and they have the bible to support them, simple and short.


Please, there are many instances in the bible. If you want quotes, I can give them to you.


But the LRA, KKK, Army of God and others are doing it.


Your opinion, of no importance or relevance, at least, not in this case.


Seriously? I'm not surprised. I guess that's a Christian tactic. Show them the works of their brothers, and they blame it on atheism. Funny.

The only thing that really makes sense in your post is the verse you cited, and I will be dealing with it. But I know you don't want to be convinced. But I pray you are, In shaa Allah.

"And slay them wherever ye catch them.." [Noble Quran 2:191]
Let's read the verse in context.
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the
reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear (the punishment of) God, and know that God is with those who restrain themselves." [Noble Quran 2:190-194]
How many times do we see the above verse repeating the message to make it clear? These verses were revealed at a time when Muslims of Madinah were under constant attack from the Makkans. An example would be when the Makkans conducted the public crucifixion of the
companion of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), Khubaib bin Adi. These would be classified as 'terrorist activities'
according to the modern usage of the term. So what does this verse say in this context? "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you", "unless they (first) fight you there" - the context of this verse applies to those who initiate the attack against Muslims. And even after they attack, the verse makes it clear:

"But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." [Noble Quran 2:192]
And it also makes clear the purpose for what Muslims fight:
"Fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God". [Noble Quran 2:193]
It is the duty of Muslims to defend humanity from oppression and persecution and to establish justice. Muslims believe that God has placed us here on earth as his deputy or viceroy, and thus, it is our duty to enjoin the good and forbid the evil, to establish peace and justice in the land.
Dr.Maher Hathout writes the following on verses 2:190-194:
These verses were applicable to a particular situation or if, hypothetically, the same situation was to be repeated... Historically, fighting back against the aggressors was prohibited during the thirteen years of the Meccan period. After the migration to Medina and the establishment of the Islamic state, Muslims were concerned with how to defend themselves against aggression from their enemies. The aforementioned verses were revealed to enable them to protect the newly formed state by fighting in self-defence against
those who fought them. However, the Quran clearly prohibits aggression. The verses explain that fighting is only for self-defence. Thus, a Muslim cannot commit aggression and kill innocent men, women, children, the sick, the elderly, monks, priests, or those who do not wish to fight. A Muslim is also mandated not to destroy plant life of livestock. (Hathout, Jihad vs. Terrorism; US Multimedia Vera International, 2002, p.49, emphasis added)
The historical context is something that must always be considered where developing an understanding of Quranic verses. Without
knowing the circumstances behind the revelation, one cannot apply the verse as accurately.
Sheikh Salman Al-Oadah writes about the general principles in Jihad:
Jihad can never be fought for worldly gain, for conquest, or even for revenge. Muslims must only fight to protect the lives, property, and freedoms of people, especially their freedom to worship Allah when that freedom is forcibly attacked.
They are never allowed to attack innocent people, even when they are themselves attacked by the countrymen of those innocents. Any people that go against this established principle of Islamic Law and murder civilians are fighting against Islam and everything that it stands for. It is ludicrous for them to call this fighting a Jihad, a
word that means striving in the cause of Islam. They are in fact murderers in the light of Islamic Law and should be treated as such.
There are strict and detailed laws in Islam, which Muslims must follow carefully. A military Jihad must be performed under these regulations.

Abdullah Yusuf Ali writes about verse 2:190:
War is only permissible in self-defence, and under well-defined limits. When undertaken, it must be pushed with vigour, but not relentlessly, but only to restore peace and freedom for the worship of
God. In any case strict limits must not be transgressed: women, children, old and infirm men should not be molested, nor trees and crops cut down, nor peace withheld when the enemy comes to terms. (Yusuf Ali, The Holy Quran, Text, Translation and Commentary)

He then re-iterates the general principles behind
Jihad in his commentary on verse 2:191: In general, it may be said that Islam is the religion of peace, goodwill, mutual understanding,
and good faith. But it will not acquiesce in wrong-doing, and its men will hold their lives cheap in defence of honour, justice, and the
religion which they hold sacred. Their ideal is that of heroic virtue combined with unselfish gentleness and tenderness, such as is exemplified in the life of the Apostle. They believe in courage,
obedience, discipline, duty, and a constant striving by all the means in their power, physical, moral, intellectual, and spiritual, for the establishment of truth and righteousness. (Yusuf Ali, The Holy
Quran, Text, Translation and Commentary)

This is the true focus behind Jihad, and Muslims must never lose this focus. Jihad is solely for the purpose of aiding humanity and bringing justice and freedom to the oppressed. Therefore, all actions must be in-line with this focus and the strict regulations governing Jihad. The focus is to defend, not destroy. One who focuses on the betterment and aid of humanity will realize that destruction will never achieve this.[/s]

Seun:
It's not clear from the quoted text that God promised the safe return of muslims from hajj. There are real issues, but this isn't one of them.

Comment to be moved to the Islamic section

Haroun13:
Funny statement. You are right, I defend the truth, unlike terrorists, and amazingly, you, who distort and twist it, to make it appeal to your whims, desires and ideologies.
I made a simple statement, "show me where the Qur'an says to kill non Muslims, for no just reason". But you failed to do so, and have automatically labeled yourself a liar.
You come here, showing me some articles, which are of no relevance to the subject. Since they practice Islam more than me (according to you), that means that Christian terrorist groups like the Lords Resistance Army, Army of God, Ku Klux Klan, etc practice Christianity more than you, because they are following the teachings of the bible, which permit you to kill. Congratulations, your reasoning method just exposed you as a fake christian, until you start killing people like the LRA, or KKK does.


Didn't bother reading them, because they are irrelevant to the subject.


I could also give you more info, coming from your terrorist christian brothers, which amazingly, the mainstream media conceals.

Salaam.

alBHAGDADI:
So, you are really going to believe that a facebook account opened for the pedophile Mohammad truly belongs to and operated by him

aminusanti:
Another pained negro on it again... we all know how badly you r affected by the recession as a snail seller but thats not a license for you to come up here and be talking nonsense pls... dis 2 foolish clowns annunaki2 & alBHAGDADI u just can't stop embarrassing yourselves online always....After you guys got exposed now you trying to apply another different lies to deceive pple huh? but the good thing now with few click everyone can know your status(LIARS)
so, are you telling us if Pope john paul died b4 facebook he can't be on facebook ?? really? if ur father happend to b dead b4 facebook, can u create a page on his behalf or not?

PEOPLE THAT DIED B4 FACEBOOK BUT HAVE FACEBOOK ACCOUNT

Pop john paul II (Died 2005)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pope-John-Paul-II/105978492766787

Princess Diana
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Princess-Diana/107044219333251?fref=ts

Fela Kuti
https://www.facebook.com/fela.kuti.14


keep lying and watch how the likes will be increasing..

alBHAGDADI:
Am sorry for wasting the precious time you use in planning on how to persecute infidels, mostly Christians.

aminusanti:
Lol..dos hypocrites r badly brain washed & got endless issues.. dos sets of short questions u posted r the best way to address dis clowns n never waste ur time to debate or educate dis hypocrites...most of dem r great liars and it's like they r all programmed to function dat way.. we really need pple like you to be helping out exposing dis Man worshiping confusion..thnx

alBHAGDADI:
Guy, you re very funny o.
The pictures even say Pope John Paul II follows him on facebook. Is it the same Pope that died in 2005 or another pope who photoshoped the screengrab so as to fool gullible muslims like you?

alBHAGDADI:
Your picture said that Pope John Paul II liked his crusader picture. Do they have access to Facebook in the grave?

sissoko22:
You're doing a great job schooling a brain washed fela, I know how hard it is. May Almighty Allah gives you strength, patience and courage to continue with this great work. Thank you sir.

alBHAGDADI:
What an unenlightened person you are.

Did he tell you that he is Christian?
Cos he bears a secular name doesn't mean he is Christian. That also doesn't mean he is not Muslim.

Perhaps, he screamed allahakbarr cos he converted to Islam and became a terrorist. He is now Islam's property.

ollah1:
The fvker I quoted haven't said a word since ystday. The other shit fvker is saying trash. Glad you schooled him and put him in his place..
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ollah1:
The recent Quebec shooting was orchestrated by Alexandre Bissonnette . He is a Christian terrorist who shouted Allah Akbar prior to the shooting spree . He wasn't charged for terrorism even tho he committed a terrorist act.

Regarding those crossing the sea, if the west alongside USA hadn't attacked their lands, would they have crossed the sea?


The questions are
Why did he shout Allah Akbar since he is a christian?
Why did he attack a mosque?
Why wasn't he charged for terrorism?


N.B no insults. It's strictly for educational purpose
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