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Kunlexic:
Smh


Imam Abdurrahman Ahmad is so worried after going through today's newspapers' headlines and he said:

"Modern day journalism is an epitome of hypocrisy!!! Why cant any newspaper headline of today reads for instance 'Boko haram bomb mosque in Maiduguri' or Terrorist attack on Mosque in Unimaid' or scores of Muslim killed in terrorist attack in Unimaid mosque' or what do you think would have been the major headlines of todays newspaper if yesterday's attacking was hatched in a Church or synagogue The terrorist attack was made to look like it was targetted on UNIMAID but in reality it was targeted at the Muslims and launched in the Mosque!!!
Hmmmmmmm......... May Allah save the Muslims! We are being killed and yet we are being accused of murder!!! We are being slaughtered and yet we are being called terrorist!!! Who will speak for us?? Who will defend us Who will protect and save us? If not Allah? Yah Allah come to our aid we are being suppressed, oppressed, dehumanised and we are suffering the worst treatment in our land, ya hayyu ya qayyumu inaka 'ala kuli shein qaderr..."

APCmyheart:
[s]The right-wing is quick to condemn all of Islam like it’s a singular entity, and hold every Muslim accountable for the actions of a handful bad apples. As I’ve often said, no one religion — not even Buddhism — has the “right” to claim they’re non-violent. Holy War is one of those things that cuts across all religions equally. And while you can point this out to right-wingers, they won’t listen: they’re quick to invoke Boko Haram, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Al-Sheebab, or some other terrorist agency and pretend they’re the sum total of all Muslims.

Well, there are Christian terrorist agencies that are just as scary, and some of them just as bad if not worse, than ISIS. A few of these you may have heard of, but since our so-called “liberal media” gets cold feet at naming Christian Terrorism what it is, some of them slip under the radar or aren’t as associated with Christian terrorism as they should be in the popular imagination.


8. Lord’s Resistance Army

Active: 1980s-Present, about 30 years

Who are they? The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) is a Christian Fundamentalist terrorist group originally from Uganda, but now active in the Sudan, the Central African Republic, and other places. Uganda, you may remember, is a hotbed of Christian Fundamentalism, so it makes sense that a group who calls themselves “Christianist” would come from the country. The LRA surfaced in the popular conscious sometime ago when Joesph Kony suddenly became a meme on the internet; up to that point, their main claim to fame is child sex slaves and children soldiers. Indeed, the LRA is known to orchestrate kidnappings, railroading young boys into fighting while forcing young girls into sexual slavery. Those who refused to fight were hacked to pieces. The young girls are forced to be “brides” for the soldiers, and thus helping to spread HIV. They’re especially brutal towards civilians, as well, wiping out entire villages and attacking refugee camps.

The goal of the LRA is pretty straight froward: they want a Bible-based state that uses the Ten Commandments as guide posts. That’s something any right-wing politician or Christianist can sympathize with, right?


7. Ku Klux Klan

Active: 1860s-Present, 149 years

Who are they? These guys don’t need any introduction; every American knows who the Invisible Empire is. The Klan name probably comes from the Ancient Greek ‘κύκλος‘ (kuklos), which means “circle.” There’s a frightening overlap between White Supremacist ideology and Christian terrorism in the Western World, and the Klan is the tip of that iceberg. There’ve actually been three Klans; the first one was formed in 1865, in Pulaski, and drew on former members of the Confederacy Army. They were a vigilante group, and they wore the sheets as a reminder of their fellow Confederates who died (think the classic “sheet ghost” and you’re not far off). Everything about the Klan is geared towards terrorism and psychological war, from the uniform to the cross burning. And while it’s true the Klan got their start as an arm of the Democratic Party, it was back when the Republicans were Theodore Roosevelt and not Sarah Palin, so I dare you to tell a modern Klansman they voted for Barack Obama.

While the Klan started out hunting down and terrorizing freemen and women, that wasn’t their sole target. The Klan is a far right-wing Protestant organization, and being a Protestant organization, they hate Catholics. As a result, Klan has targeted both Catholics and Jews in the (not-so-distant) past. The KKK’s history is so violent, in fact, that many draw a comparison between the KKK and Al Qaeda, although I think that’s an unfair comparison, as I’ll explain below.


6. National Liberation Front of Tripura

Active: 1989 to present, about 30 years

Who are they? You’ve probably heard of the Lord’s Resistance Army and the KKK, but this is a group that I’m pretty sure you haven’t, unless you’re from India. It’s easy for us to forget, as Americans, just how big India is; it’s far more diverse than Europe is, culturally speaking, and it’s roughly the same size. It’s called the “world’s largest democracy” for a reason, but as the United States shows, no democracy is without it’s secessionists. And these folks are just some of the many secessionist organizations in India.

According to their manifesto, the NLFT wants ” to expand the kingdom of God and Christ in Tripura,” and often does so at the point of a gun. They threatened anyone celebrating the Hindu Festival of Durga Puja with death, and are backed by a Baptist Church that’s selling them arms. They’ve orchestrated at least two massacres, and used rape as a tool of intimidation. While the Nayanbasi faction has been shut down, the Biswamohan faction has promised to fight on. So here we have a Christian terrorist group spreading their faith in India “by sword,” metaphorically, and at the point of a gun more prosaically — small wonder we haven’t heard anything about them in the West, huh?


5. Antibalaka

Active: 1990s to present, about 25 years

Who are they? I’ve cited the Central African Genocide in at least two articles now; these are the militia behind that genocide. Their name means “anti-machete” in the Sango and Mandja languages, and they first formed to defend Christians and Animists who were on the receiving end of politically motivated violence carried out by Muslims. As these things often do, the tables turned, and now the Antibalaka is doing what right-wingers only wish they could do: ethnically cleanse their country of all Muslims. This includes children, who they’ve targeted and murdered in the past. Now, the Antibalaka now stand accused of crimes far worse than anything that Séléka, the Muslim rebel group, are guilty of.


4. Catholic Reaction Force/Protestant Action Force

Active: 1983 till 1994; at least 2002 for other groups using the CRF name; 1970s till 1990s for PAF

Who are they? Really, anytime some claims that Christians aren’t violent, all you have to do is direct them to Ireland. I could do a whole entry on what happened in North Ireland, beginning in the 1970s. Americans like to pretend that Eire is Guinness, the Blarney Stone, and leprechauns, but during the 1970s, religious violence a la the Thirty Years’ War was painting the Emerald Isle ruby red. The Irish call this time period The Troubles, and that’s an understatement if there ever was one.

The Provisional IRA is perhaps the best known terrorist agency from the period and would definitely earn their spot on this list, if I weren’t aiming for more obscure groups, but the Catholic Reaction Force and Protestant Action Force were also active and, in the case of the latter, also responsible for a large number of murders. For those who are unfamiliar with the Troubles, it occurred in North Ireland and, as so many European conflicts do, pitted Protestants against Catholics in unmitigated bloodshed. The CRF was behind the Darkley killings, in addition to several mailed bombings in the early 2000s. The PAF, which was far more effective in their killings, has a rap sheet a mile long. You can find it on the Wikipedia page, here.

3. The Orange Volunteers

Active: Early 1970s to Present, about 40 years

Who are they: We’re staying in Ireland for this next group. Fans of science fiction probably remember the Orange Catholic Bible from Frank Herbert’s Dune, but may never have understood why that name was so subversive, or why it was similar to Herbert’s other Coca-Pepsi religious hybrids like Zensunni. Orange is the color of Protestantism in Ireland, and green is the color of Catholicism; when you wear green on St. Patty’s Day, you’re proclaiming your Catholic heritage. The Orange Volunteers, then, are a Protestant terrorist organization.

The OV are Protestant Fundamentalist, and responsible for a number of violent attacks in North Ireland. While the police have been cracking down on the group, the group is still considered to be active and is still terrorizing Catholic citizens and hitting “soft targets.”

2. The Aryan Nations

Active: Unknown, to the Present

Who are they? “The Aryan Nations” is an umbrella agency that nets a large number of White and Christian Supremacist agencies ranging from certain breeds of Neo-Nazi to the KKK itself. It’s heyday was in the 1980s and the 1990s, when various White Nationalist groups would convene at the group’s Idaho compound for their annual congress.

The Aryan Nations got their start in the Christian Identity movement, but has since fractured into no fewer than three factions, with one faction even looking to buddy-buddy with Al-Qaeda in 2005. The Phineas Priesthood is another branch, and they’ve made headlines here on AATTP before. The last faction is the Aryan Nation Revival, which holds to their Christian Identity heritage like small-town Conservatives cling to their guns and Bibles.


1. The Christian Identity Movement

Active: 1920/1930s to Present, about 95 years

Who are they? When you’re dealing with White Nationalism and White Supremacy in the United States, it’s turtles all the way down, but you can almost certainly find God at the top of the heap. That’s what the Christian Identity Movement is; it’s not necessarily an organization so much as it is a loose affiliation of organizations like the Aryan Nations.

The Christian Identity Movement is a very weird movement; they actually have hostile relations with Evangelicals and other charismatic Protestants — not because they’re racist bigots, no; it’s because the CIM is Post-Millennial, where the vast majority of Evangelicals are Pre-Millennial. This distinction is lost on anyone who hasn’t studied the Scofield-Derby Heresies, but the basic idea is that the Tribulation has already occurred and the goal is to build up the world to the second coming. Their theology is just as skewed, though; for instance, members of the CIM believe that non-Caucasians don’t have souls, and therefore, can’t be saved.

The CIM is made up of various Christian terrorist organizations, like Americans Promise Ministries, who are responsible for terrorist attacks and bank robberies; the aforementioned Aryan Nations; the Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord; the Oklahoma Constitution Militia; and the South African Groups that were behind the 2002 Soweto bombings.

This group is why I consider the comparison between the KKK and Al-Qaeda to be unfair. The CIM is a worldwide movement, with adherents across the Commonwealth and former-Commonwealth Countries, as well as the United States, and is responsible for ideologically motivated terrorism. This, I think, makes the Christian Identity Movement a much better comparison to Al-Qaeda than the KKK.
So this is it?

Nope. There are hundreds more. I mentioned a few of them in the article — the Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, the Oklahoma Constitution Militia, and the Provisional IRA are just a few who didn’t get entries but deserve noting anyway. By now it should be apparent to anyone watching that Christian Terrorism is a thing, it exists, and it’s just as bad and widespread as Islamic Terrorism. The only difference between Christian Terrorism and Islamic terrorism is that Christian Terrorism never makes the evening news.[/s]

Empiree:
Prophet Muhammad {SAW}} got sense.

plappville:
Read text and understand mr man. Where did this event happened? And who was the man according to the story? You are just ranting pouring out verses trying so hard to win audience. Its clear you do not understand my point till now. Israelites have never force thier God on other nations like the Muslims are doing since from Muhammad till date. Terrorisme in the Muslims world is a means to spread Islam to the unbelievers. The Jews didnt do such. Prove it if you have proofs.

wolesmile:
Plapville/Plapvillemoi, do you understand simple English at all, or you just choose to dogmatically overlook the instruction to kill in those verses?

You are still trying to argue that two and two do not make four.

wolesmile:
Christians... Tell me if you want more. I get dem plenty. If you think Muslims frown at blaspheme, listen to the Bible.


Death for Blasphemy

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men.  During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name.  So the man was brought to Moses for judgment.  His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan.  They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear.  Then the LORD said to Moses, “Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head.  Then let the entire community stone him to death.  Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished.  Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel.  Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

wolesmile:

Death to Followers of Other Religions

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

wolesmile:
Funny when people like you argue blindly and ignorantly. Shows how much you know your Bible.
Let's take chapters and verses from that Bible of yours.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden.  When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)


More coming...

Haroun13:
OK



Still no evidence.


Yet his companion died immediately. Be reasonable.


OK.


You are misquoting me. You said that Muhammad (peace be upon him) made those statements because he was poisoned, and I asked for evidence. From the above hadith, why he made those statements is mentioned. So, I don't know why you had to lie that it was because he was poisoned because it's obviously not.


OK.


OK


Like I said before, anyone can make rules. What matters is making them count.
Again, let's apply your method of reasoning.
“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom. “ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)

Examining this verse, from your reasoning point of view, it proves that Jesus (peace be upon him) can never be God, or part of God. Because, God knows everything, and keeps to his words. Because it is obvious from the above quoted verse of your bible, that Jesus (peace be upon him) made a statement which never came to pass, and can never come to pass because the time period for the execution of that promise/statement is gone.

So you see, I pity you. A man whom you call God who cannot see what is forth coming? Neither him nor his disciples saw that the statement was actually false. They were all soaked in sin that day abi?

Seriously? Again, your method of reasoning is astounding!


I see a man that can never be God.


A man who never ascribed Godly qualities to himself, yet, those qualities were and are ascribed to him by some people, and it became the doctrine of their descendants, to ascribe Godly qualities to him, even though he never for once said so.

One question i ask Christians is; "if Jesus (peace be upon him) came to preach trinity, why didn't he ever mention he was God? Was he trying to deceive people, or he was practicing Al taqiyya (concealing ones true intentions), which even Paul did.



I understand my Prophet (peace be upon him and his words). You are the one who doesn't, or at least, you may, but decide to twist it. Your choice.

Salaam.

Empiree:
Have you no sense?

Chiedu4Trump:
I concur that Mohammed was an illiterate.

Thats why he said the world is flat.

Qur'an 2:22
[allah] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out]

While those who are led of God said that the earth is round.

Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth.

So yes only an illiterate will say the earth is flat

GBAM...

annunaki2:
But you support their mentor(mohammed) and the evil acts he carried out in the hadiths and quoran. What hypocrisy

Rilwayne001:
I never for once support their evil acts.

okosodo:
They are doing all these with the collboration of catholic

Empiree:
Help Yourself plapville and suck it up

Empiree:
No, you are the one deceiving yourself.

Quran says in sura 3:113

"Not all of them are alike: among the People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is a community standing [in obedience], reciting the verses of Allah during periods of the night and prostrating [in prayer]."



That ^^^ refutes your argument

Threat? What are you talking about?

Lmao. I was expecting you would bring this up sooner or later, and you just did. For the records, I'm no muslim, at least my posts attest to that. And why; why, why, why does anyone who seeks to confront christians on their blatant display of hypocrisy regarded as muslim? You criticise evil practices in all other religions, yet you turn a blind eye to the ones in yours. Isn't that bias?

Why must christianity enjoy some special immunity and be exempted from criticism? Who decides that? You?

Why are you satisfied with the atrocities in the bible? Why? Just why? I'm not even talking about the evil present day christians engage in. Let's first analyse the bible then we could go on to other aspects. If people can be made to see that the bible disapproves inhumanity, then maybe they could be convinced to stop burning supposed witches.

You must condemn cruel acts in the bible. If you don't, I won't take you seriously again. Be fair and condemn bad deeds in your bible. Embrace honesty, for it's the best policy. That's all I want you to do.

wolesmile:
Plapville, or is it Plapvillemoi, you asked a question that bothers on Muslim to unbelievers relationship and I gave you an equivalent biblical verse that treats Christian to unbelievers relationship. Why not remove the dust in your own eye first?
To the issue of towns.... Mention one Christian state that Muslims migrate to in their search for greener pastures. Just one. Remember, US is not a Christian state. France neither. Neither is Germany. UAE is Islamic state. So is Qatar, Brunei, Turkey, Malaysia, S/Arabia, etc.

Empiree:
Your Op answered itself. It says.....



"AMONG THEM".


It doesn't say


"ALL OF THEM"

jonbellion:
you are asking muslins to think well by putting a logical question as your signature
Yet when the same kind of questions are thrown at your religion you find the body ridiculous rationalisations
Hmmm
Nawa oo

jonbellion:
if you were so excited in unravelling the irrationality of your religion as well the world would be a much better place

Haroun13:
I told you to do your research very well, but it seems like you don't like assignments.

Abdullah ibn Ateek broke his leg and Muhammad healed it by wiping his hand over it. Abdullah said it was as if nothing had happened to it! The person who witnessed the miracle was another companion, Bara’ ibn Azib[b] (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)

Al-Bayhaqi stated, in the Dalail (The Signs), “ Abu Sad al-Malini informed us quoting Abu Ahmed b. Adi, quoting Abu Yala, quoting Yahya al-Himmant, quoting Abd al-Aziz b. Sulayman b. al-
Ghasil, from Asim b. Umar b. Qatada, from his father, from his grandfather [b]Qatada b. al-Numan, that his eye was wounded at Badr and that its pupil came down on his cheekbone. They were about to slice it off, but asked the Messenger of God (SAAS) who said they should not do this. He then said a prayer for him, covering his cheek with his palm. And later you could not tell which of his eyes had been struck!”
According to one account, this became the better eye.
An account came down to us from the Commander of the Believers, Umar b. Abd al- Aziz that when he was told this account by Asim b. Umar b. Qatada, he also recited:
“I am the son of him on whose cheek his eye descended,
which was replaced so well by the hand of the Chosen-One .”

Please, show me your source.
Also, assuming what you said is true, the argument would still be meaningless because you must be aware that the other companion, Bishr died immediately hence, it could only take divine intervention for someone to survive that, and for that long.

Please, show me your source.

Evidence?


Well, it was more that that.


Evidence for the phrase in bold?

He simply accepted a gift presented to him.

Ok.


Already using it.

From what you've been writing, it's obvious you see nothing, at least, nothing that makes sense.

I already know this, so why'd you quote it?

NinjaX:
You can check the koran or step up the game above this meaningless online chest-thumping and ask them yourself in real life. I'm sure you will get what you seek.

Look at you. You can't post hogwash and expect not to get confronted with it, which is why it's really advisable that you never allow bullshit_ escape your head else you will be slapped with it.

Madam answer the damn questions and stop trying to escape with poorly hatched tactics. You survive on attacking muslims but suddenly develops cold feet when the gesture is reciprocated in equal measure. But I won't relent. I will follow this case to the end. Mind you, your reputation is at stake here if you don't know, so be careful of what you type. So do the neeful o woman of faith... Go on and answer the damn questions... Get going...

Haroun13:
Go back and read.

.
Go and read John 11:41-42


Seems like you've got problems of double standards.


Again, go back and read.


Go and read John 11:41-42

OK.


What a God!


Now you are confirming that Jesus ( peace be upon him) was a Muslim, I.e, he submitted to God.

This shows that your trinitarian doctrine is false, because God doesn't submit to himself (if you say they are one), unless you agree that you actually worship 3 different beings as gods, and Jesus (peace be upon him, according to you), being the lesser god, submitted to the higher one. Your choice.

But he prayed to be saved from crucifixion, and wasn't.

OK
#DOUBLESTANDARDS


Please show me.
Also, go and read your bible for the atrocities of Yahweh, AKA Jesus (peace be upon him, according to you), via trinity.


Ok


Point them out if you are truthful.

Salaam.

Haroun13(m): Quote Post
But after all these, what was the result? According to you, he died a shameful death, he died a cursed man.
Here goes; Isn't the death of Jesus (peace be upon him) contradictory to Yahweh's promise to Jesus (peace be upon him) who prayed fervently to be saved from crucifixion, yet, died of crucifixion??Can someone help a brother to explain this please. Thank you in advance.

MrMontella:
she said the bible...
In your bible..there are instances and commands like that

yusufficient:
it is mention in the Quran Praise be to Allah. , may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Quran) is the truth
surat ”[Al Fussilat 41:53].

ISLAM WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD

shaklisco:
you abuse ur creator in social media to gain cheep publicity, u should hv ask ur self why ur life remain the same while ur younger ones are making waves in there various endeavour, did u know why u never above ur mate ? is because the same creator wrote ur destiny to be like that,and for you to mock those with disability hmmmm,not that you are perfect or lucky it is the same creator gave you the grace to see with ur eyes. I hope you seek forgiveness from ur creator, may almighty god forgive you.

FILEBE:
you are gbaming everything against islam. lol. well, this was what you gbamed :
"alBHAGDADI:
The only miracle that allah can do is write his name on a tree or on a piece of Pork.

Why can't he perform a miracle of healing the countless blind and crippled beggars in northern Nigeria and the entire Islamic world? Is he weak?"

May I ask this question? What is God doing about earthquakes,Typhoons, floods accidents and killings here and there? is he weak?

Solorrman:
Yes we also dnt want u near us because u are eating human beings. Secondly u are worshipping d god that passess urine and excreta so we can not argue with u coz ours is ever pure he never eats talkless of visiting toilet,shit god