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Plus1234:
Hope you are preparing?

OkCornel:
So Daniel told you that it is an army that will enter into a covenant with many for one seven (7 years) in Daniel 9 v 26-27 abi?

The army no get leader abi?

Who is this man of lawlessness, and when did he declare himself to be God in the temple?

Kobojunkie:
So God lied in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24?

OkCornel:
So Paul was twisting and joining verses when he wrote in 2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4 that “our gathering unto Christ” will not happen until the man of lawlessness is revealed and will declare himself to be God in the Temple?

Your own Jesus will return before the temple in Jerusalem is rebuilt?

Your own Jesus will return at the 👉LAST👈 trumpet in 1 Corinthians 15 v 52-53, but the 7 trumpets in Revelation will now be trumpets after the 👉LAST👈 trumpet?

No matter how hard you believe in a lie, it can never be truth.

Aemmyjah:
If I were to follow you
I'll say that even Judah Iscariot who was chosen will still benefit and have salvation right?


Hebrews 10
26 For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left,
27 but there is a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a burning indignation that is going to consume those in opposition.
28 Anyone who has disregarded the Law of Moses dies without compassion on the testimony of two or three.
29 How much greater punishment do you think a person will deserve who has trampled on the Son of God and who has regarded as of ordinary value the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and who has outraged the spirit of undeserved kindness with contempt?

The children of Israel Moses told will enter the promised land, only 2 among the people who left Egypt stepped into the Promised Land

Jesus said that the one who endures to the end (end of their life or of this wicked world) will be saved. What if someone does not endure?

Jesus also gave illustrations about a slave who was given work by his Master but seeing his master delay, he became slack and he was punished

What about the story of the foolish virgins? They were friends but at the end, we're denied.

Hebrew 3
1That is why it is necessary for us to pay more than the usual attention to the things we have heard, so that we never drift away.
2 For if the word spoken through angels proved to be sure, and every transgression and disobedient act received a punishment in harmony with justice,
3 how will we escape if we have neglected so great a salvation? For it began to be spoken through our Lord and was verified for us by those who heard him...

Philippians 2:12
Consequently, my beloved ones, just as you have always obeyed, not only during my presence but now much more readily during my absence, keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Once Saved, Always Saved is not a Bible teaching

CoronaVirusPro:
Can they employ me to launch it and take full responsibility afterwards.

Cant wait for that artificial state called Israel to become dust!

paxonel:
you have not quoted any scripture to prove your point.
Me, I have quoted John 3:6 to prove my point

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Therefore, you can't say I'm lying.
Rather, it is you who is trying to avoid scriptures to present your unrealistic traditional doctrines that have lied.

And you know what?
Many African Christians are gradually being educated and are coming out of your kind of traditional ignorance.
You many not see them
But they are there even in the church you attend.

They know the truth deep inside them.
Salvation is a free gift from God whether you like it or not

paxonel:
absolutely right!

It is share ignorance for a Christian to fear that he can lose his salvation by any means order than him rejecting Christ.

Such Christians(funny enough, constitutes the vast majority of the type Christians we have in Africa) can never be decisive in making critical decisions or standing for what is right too,and are such they are largely hypocritical, seeing that they are completely oblivion of the fact that their salvation is of spiritual significance that is only embedded in their spirit and not in their body or bodily actions

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

In essence, Flesh and Spirit do not have the same bearing.

And a better explanation of this is that forfeiture of our spirit(wherein our salvation lies) is never part of the consequences of our actions in the fresh

OkCornel:
So your own Jesus will return before the temple at Jerusalem is rebuilt?

Abi you come sabi pass Paul wey talk for 2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4 “our gathering unto Christ” will not happen until the man of lawlessness is revealed?

Take your medicine, sleep well, study the scriptures and shake off the foolishness.

Kobojunkie:
When you twist the Words of Jesus Christ what you do is lie against God Himself.

2. Sure, sure! I should politely allow you to continue to tell lies using the name of God abi? Una no know wetin dey do una sef!

3. There is no such thing as time running out on anyone. What is written of the Last days(of God's JUdgement against Israel(the Nation of Judah included) took place 1900 years ago, just as God said it would through the Prophets and also through Jesus Christ.

4. The Olive tree is not the State of Israel. The state of Israel did not even exist 2000 years ago.

5. So, the Messiah has not even come yet? He is yet to come abi?

Kobojunkie:
Why do you folks like to read your own private delusions into what is written in scripture?

Compare what is in fact written in the passage below to the gobbledegook you spewed of Israel supposedly remaining dorma nt for the past 2000 years and tell us where the connection between that and what is written even begins.
Open your eyes to see that Jesus Christ was still talking to his disciples who had asked Him the two questions at the beginning of that same chapter. Are His disciples alive and breathing in the land of the living today? Or where were they in 1948? Why would you assume He had to have been talking of some sort of rebirth for Israel when even Jesus Christ did not meet the Nation of Israel at the time He came to the world?( The Nation of Israel had already been scattered by God over 500 years before Jesus Christ.)

What Jesus Christ said of the fig tree is in reference to the events that began(most of which took place) during the same time in which His disciples lived.

2. Stop lying! What generation witnessed the rebirth of which Israel? You actually believe the Israel you see today which was given to the people by the British alliance and constituted using a Constitution completely different from the Old Law of Moses which God had originally constituted His own Israel, is the rebirth of the same Israel that God created in the wilderness and handed the Land of Canaan? Are you for real?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ told you that the tribulations which He spoke of in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and even Luke 21 were to take place within the same generation which he was a part of. So, what in the world does post-tribulation rapture even begin to mean?

Jesus Christ was asked two questions based on claims He made in the first part of the same chapter.

Question #1: Tell us when these things — when the temple in Jerusalem will be destroyed, and every stone will be thrown down to the ground with not one stone will left on another.” — will happen
The information found in verse 23 through the rest of the chapter applies as far as Question #2 which concerns the coming back of Jesus Christ, and as you can see, the false messiahs and prophets arrived beginning from the time of the destruction of Jerusalem, and they have continued since then and will until the time of the return.

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Now, OP compiled all that Jesus Christ said in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21, with what He said will take place when the time comes to judge those in the Kingdom of God — the goats and the sheep in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 -, and you will find that all this while, you have been letting men who call themselves mogs and pastors deceive you with their many tales by moonlight all this while.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you are equally twisting scripture yourself. Jesus Christ explained what He would do when the time comes, in clear speak, in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46, but you rather cling to the special lies fed to you by your pastors and mogs for reasons best known to you.

God1000:
There will be no winner, they will both eliminate each other

Globally, Iran is ranked 17 and Israel 18, though Israel has nuclear weapons and western support but Iran has deadly weapons that can travel 1200 miles reaching every corner of Israel, Iran also has different proxies in the region

OkCornel:
So your own Jesus will return before the temple at Jerusalem is rebuilt?

Abi you come sabi pass Paul wey talk for 2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4 “our gathering unto Christ” will not happen until the man of lawlessness is revealed?

Take your medicine, sleep well, study the scriptures and shake off the foolishness.

OkCornel:
Get well soon

bobestman:
People like you love your sleep, ignorance and chains. This is the age of light that many of your religious lies will be exposed. Many of you who still love your chains will never get it. Their will be no need of Isaiah 2 if your religions are in the right path. Paul won't be telling you that blindness fell on the Hebrews but that they will wake up at endtime. John 4:22 won't be telling you that the salvation of the world lies in the hands of the Hebrews. Isaiah 11:11-12 won't be telling you about the Restoration of Isreal. Some thieves went to create fake Isreal for you to claim they fulfill the verse but the messiah is not their as their king. They have been fighting all their lives. Daniel told you that some robbers will try to establish the vision and also that this things will in a time of increased knowledge. All these can't be lies. It is all in the book but they taught you guys wrongly

Michael547:
If all good people rapture from the earth, wh t becomes of the earth?

bobestman:
You want to be sucked up into heaven? The word "heaven" is not even the abode of the Creator. Read Genesis 1, heaven means firmament. It is like a decking that separates one storey from another. But i will use it according to your understanding. You Churchians believe so many wrong things and never care to research. Those in heaven are lights/spirits. You can't ascend their with your earthly bodies without death.

Now the bible makes us understand that it is heaven on earth or a paradise earth. Those in heaven who have a mission here on earth will even take a body and come to earth at the season of their reincarnation. You can't go to heaven without death and you can't come from heaven without taking up a body

Rapture has 2 root words RA/RAY - Light and pTURE - Opening or revelation. It is a revelation of a great light that will separate those of light and darkness here on earth - see the parable of wheat and tares. If i write a book on the many errors and lies in christianity, it won't finish. Isa 44:7

Maynman:
Religion is the real opioid, it causes hallucinations.

Kobojunkie:
Your dream is a lie, I am afraid.

NzogbuNzogbu:
Thanks Bro, we are called to be watchmen in this hours

This issue of rapture is tomorrow or next is why so many are saying we have heard it before and it didn't happen.

You see Satan game plan, whereas the Bible gave the exact time of his coming to the teeth not guess work.

That rapture won't happen when the temple isn't even standing for the man of sin to come exalt himself.

Keep an eye on Israel, for the first time in thousands of years they now have a pure red heifer (red heifer was commanded by yaweh to always be slaughtered and it's ashes swinkled as a sign of purification for temple service)

So the red heifer would be killed at age 3 or so, that would be around April 2024, when this happens the Jews would be so aggressively interested in restoring that temple by fire by force.

It would be their own sign from Yaweh that the time is ready for it, again it is accepted in the Jewish tradions that this pure red heifer without spot is the last of the seven yaweh would send before the end, they say Moses himself was the one who sacrificed the first as a levite and five others have come since then, this is the seventh.

Notice the temple is still in Muslims hands runned by the Jordanian royal family, An Israel official member of parliament said they can actually pass their own law to run that temple in disregard of the Jordan authority.

You can see they are getting set cos they know the sign they looking at, now this would be the mother of all controversy that would gaslight the middle East, it is the very tension that would usher in the lawless one to come present himself as a peace maker between this impossible groups.

He would then divide the temple mount into two one for jews, one for Muslims as already stated in revelation.

So you can see how close we are to the commotion that ushers in the last seven years.

These ufo lies are demons already dancing naked waiting for Armageddon, currently the euraphates river has dried up, as stated in revelation, the chained demons must have been released as the Bible stated when it dries

We are in exciting times