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3- Catholic Church in Turkey

4- St Benedict Catholic Church

JMAN05: 6 - Do you pray for the departed so that they could pass through purgatory?

7 - I inserted "from" in place of "by" in your question above. also note the "persons" in parenthesis. Do you now understand?

@ 6 yes , anything wrong with that?

7 I understand your question now, but I still don't know what you mean we don't ask any intercession from the dead

JMAN05: If you understand my write ups, you wont say this.

why?

1- Emblem of the Papacy.

2- St Peter's Basilica

3- Christ Church Cathedral Canterbury

4- Holy Virgin Mary, Mother of God

The Roman Catholic Church is the largest group of Christians in the world. There are about 2 billion members, mostly in Europe, North South America and Africa. The church goes back to about 30 A.D., to the life of Jesus Christ and his apostles. Roman Catholics believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, and that he rose to heaven after being crucified. They believe that Jesus brought salvation to all people on Earth.
The leader of the Roman Catholic Church and successor of Jesus Christ on Earth is the Pope. He governs the church from the Vatican, a small state situated in the heart of Rome. The Pope selects cardinals and bishops to lead the church throughout the world.

The Roman Catholic Church has influenced history more than any other organization/Religion. It exercised its power throughout the Middle Ages. Missionaries travelled to other continents to spread Catholicism. Great architects created churches and cathedrals, artists drew paintings and made frescoes.







The Beliefs of the Roman Catholic Church




The beliefs of Catholics are based on the Bible. Creeds are short statements of faith that Catholics believe in and recite in mass.


Roman Catholics believe that there is only a single God, who exists in three persons – the Father, Jesus Christ the son, and the Holy Spirit. Each of these people, however, personifies God. They also believe that God created the universe, the world, human beings and everything else on Earth. Believers in the Roman Catholic religion also honor the Virgin Mary, mother of Jesus Christ/God.


God wanted human beings to live forever, just like him. But because the first human being, Adam, did not obey God, the sin he committed was passed on to the rest of humanity. The church says that everyone is born with this original sin. God sent his son Jesus Christ to Earth to save everyone from sin. During the latter part of his life Jesus spent much time with his followers, apostles who would continue his teachings after his death. Roman Catholics celebrate two important events in the life of Jesus: Christmas, the birth of Jesus Christ and Easter, the resurrection of Jesus.


According to Catholic beliefs, life does not end with death. The soul leaves its bodily form and rises to heaven, purgatory or hell. Heaven is the place where God wants everyone to be, purgatory is a place in which those who have sinned against God stay for a short time and are cleaned of their sins. A person is punished in Hell because they have not lived God’s life.


The Catholic Church teaches people to behave in certain ways. They must love God and their fellow human beings. It asks its followers to live a life as Jesus had, to follow their consciences.




Sacraments


There are seven sacraments in the Roman Catholic Church. These are rituals that all good Catholics perform.
•Baptism is an event in which a child, or sometimes an adult, is cleaned from their original sin. Water is poured over a person as a sign of cleaning and starting a new life.
•Confirmation is usually performed at the age of 14 or 15, when a child turns into a young adult. A bishop or priest puts oil on the forehead of a worshipper as a sign of strength.
•The Eucharist or mass is normally a Sunday celebration. It consists of prayers, hymns and texts from the Bible. A priest turns bread and wine into Christ’s body and blood. At communion worshippers eat Christ’s body in form of a host.
•Confession is a sacrament in which Catholics tell their sins to a priest. They promise to God that they are sorry for what they have done.
•Holy orders are sacraments that turn young men into priests or bishops. They then lead their community in the name of God.
•Marriage is a sacrament in which man and woman promise to live together in a family.
•The anointment of the sick is a sacrament that is given to a person who is very ill and in danger of dying. The priest anoints a sick person with oil and frees them from sin so that they can rise to heaven.
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Baptism of a child

Baptism of a child



How the Church is organized




Catholics in a small town or village are usually organized in a parish. Priests or deacons are in charge of celebrating mass and performing other rituals in church. Today, more and more lay people have tasks in the Roman Catholic Church. They read passages from the Bible at mass and sometimes give others communion.


A diocese is a group of many parishes that is supervised by a bishop. The bishop appoints the priests who lead the parishes. He also is in charge of other religious organizations in his diocese. Bishops are responsible for teaching and guiding people in their region.


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History of the Roman Catholic Church


The history of the Roman Catholic Church begins with the life and death of Jesus Christ, about 2,000 years ago. Paul, the Apostle, is often seen as the founder of the Church. He carried the word of Jesus Christ to the people. Many churches were built throughout the Roman Empire. During this time Christianity spread throughout Europe and the Middle East. The Romans, who ruled these areas had their own religion and at first persecuted and mistreated Christians. At around 300 AD Christianity became the main Roman religion. By this time there were two capitals in the empire: in Rome and Constantinople (now Istanbul).


When the western part of the Roman Empire collapsed in the 5th century Christianity still had a major influence in Europe. The bishops in Constantinople often disagreed with the popes of western Rome, who were becoming more and more powerful. In 1054 the church split into an eastern and a western branch. The eastern half became the Orthodox Church and the western half became the Roman Catholic Church.


During the Middle Ages the Roman Catholic Church was the most powerful organization in western Europe. It not only had religious power but also gained more and more political power. Popes launched Crusades to conquer back the Holy Land from Muslims. Kings and leaders in the west were very often in direct conflict with the Pope and his bishops.
In the 14th century cardinals elected a French Pope who did not want to go to Rome. For about 70 years there were two popes who fought for power, one in Avignon and one in Rome. As the Roman Catholic Church became weaker people began to break away and form new Christian churches.


Martin Luther, a German monk, began the reformation movement in the early 16th century. Central and Northern Europe became Protestant while the Mediterranean regions remained Roman Catholic. In England Henry VIII broke away from Rome and founded the Anglican Church.


Nevertheless, Roman Catholicism expanded throughout the world during the Age of Exploration. Explorers and settlers brought Catholic beliefs to the New World. Spanish, Portuguese and French missionaries set up churches and colonized areas in North and South America.


As time went on the Pope’s influence in Europe diminished and he lost much of his land. By 1870 only the Vatican City remained. The Roman Catholic Church faced changes in society as well as new theories in science, which it was mostly against. In 1962 Pope John XXIII opened the Second Vatican Council which dealt with the church’s problems and modernized many things.

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JMAN05: This thread is made so that Italo will discuss his believes with others, since he prefers it when his name is not attached to the subject. let us see another reason he has to dodge.


6. which Scripture authorise your church to pray for the dead?

7. which Scripture supports intercession by the dead?

Let's start from there. more remains.

I don't get question 6
as for question 7 what are you talking about? who is asking intercession by the dead ?

interpret this for us please
2 john 1:12
There are several things I have to tell you, but I have thought it best not to trust it to PAPAER and INK. I hope instead to visit you and talk to you personally so that our joy may be complete

what about the oral traditions?

where are you from ?

nora544: It is child abuse.

A little girl cannot tell her parents she didnot want it.

It has nothing to do when it happen in an hospital, did you realy know what they cut away from a woman, that woman have problems to give birth when they have only a small hole, please read about it, it is barbaric.

what is this one saying ? cutting the clit doesn't reduce the hole .

the health issues are reduced when it is done in the norms and in a medical center . , BTW no one is forcing you to cut yours or to cut your daughter's clit so why are you taking panadol for their headaches ?

mad nigerian: Interesting story behind Cameroon not being a West African country.

In the 1970's, Cameroon was on the verge of joining ECOWAS.....but due to some disagreement about water rights with Nigeria....something to do about the River Cross.....the deal fell through...and Cameroon joined the Equatorial African subgrouping...hence Cmeroon being regarded as a Equatorial African country not a West African country.

Cameroon was also once part of the Equatorial African Federation.....a group of French colonies consisting of Chad, CAR, and Gabon, as well as Congo Brazzaville.

Cameroon has never part of your Equatorial African Federation, Cameroon was not a colony but a mandate then a country under tutelage (as stated by the SDN) with this status Cameroonians were able to attend SDN sessions something others couldn't , they weren't enrolled in colonial armies to fight their wars like others colonies E.g Nigeria , Ghana , Uganda.

nora544: the problem is that many woman have after this health problems there hole life and many girls die and a girl get it if she want it or not.

I feel you doin't know very much about this but read about it and than you will understand it more and better why we have to fight that this should stop

it should stop because you said so? and you are?
as for the health issues they can't be easily tackled if the circumcision is done in a medical center , however you ostracize them, that's why they don't go to hospitals and prefer carry the operations themselves. they have the right to do what they want with their clitoris, I don't see you speaking against genital piercings, tattoos etc .hypocrites

Boomark: I know i caught you unawares cos you have never reasoned to that level.

Let me break down for you though i know breaking down is not even the problem...delusion is at work.

Ok. Assuming Paul is going to Ephesus, he will teach them oral the revelations he wrote in Corinthians, Romans, Hebrew, timothy, etc. What is written in Corinthians is not the same with what is written in Hebrew.

He later adviced that we should not accept any other teaching apart what they were taught both orally and in letters because he knew they now have everything complete and spread across different letters IF NOT, any body can rise up tomorrow, say whatever he want and tell us it is oral tradition. I hope you got it now. No escape route.

that's not the point , the point is do you know all the oral traditions that were transmitted ? what on earth makes you think you know more than us? should I remind you that we are the most serious Church in the world?

[quote author=soul_glo]Ehm....... ok[/quote]typos
*edited*
Anyway I got your points, but you must accept that your views can't be universal

Mintayo: Mary ascended to heaven?:/ Loool,i can't stop,this is a new one and it is so funny.

you can help your sister, were/are Elijah, Enoch, Moses divinities?

Boomark: did you ask yourself who he was going to speak to? Is it the whole world? NO

Do you expect Paul to rewrite all that he taught in his letter to the Corinthians, Romans, galatians, Ephesians, Hebrew, timothy, etc, to this people. The revelations he got are in these letters and he knows them so he can teach them orally.

Don't be deceived by those who teach you lawlessness and tell you it is oral tradition. Na who we go ask? I hope i have guided you. You still have the right to continue believing your oral traditions. Na who we go ask?

you don't make sense

vickyO: they didn't die. and the book of revelations speaks about their return. they will die when they return cause death is inevitable. Did the bible record anything about Mary's return. Even Jesus Christ died so who is Mary in the face of death?

you said only divinities ascend, so my question stands
are/were Elijah and enoch divinities? stop beating around the bush

vickyO: thank God you said honour your father and mother. Did Christ tell us to honour His mum or dad?

must he tell you everything?

vickyO: So is that a solid backing for the worship of Mary........... Jesus told Peter to feed his flock, why aren't we worshipping Peter now. John was Christ's closest friend why aren't we praying to him to talk to Christ to speak to God.

I guess it is is your pastorcrook who defines what's solid or not

vickyO: So is that a solid backing for the worship of Mary........... Jesus told Peter to feed his flock, why aren't we worshipping Peter now. John was Christ's closest friend why aren't we praying to him to talk to Christ to speak to God.

first of voice we don't worship Mary , we honor her, and I don't know for you but we also honor Peter

vickyO: Jesus never regarded his mother in high esteem. people told him blessed is the womb that conceived him but he told them instead blessed are those who believe in his teachings............... Jesus never preached any catholic doctrine........... read your bible well our new testaments are the same.

yet he asked people in the marriage he attended to do as his mum wishes? Yet despite the fact that it wasn't yet his time , he obeyed his mum accomplished a miracle .
Your argument doesn't make sense so the same God who asked us to honor our father and mother wasn't honoring his own mother, smh @ your ignorance

vickyO: Eli the priest?

I meant Elijah . So answer it now , were/are Elijah. Enoch divinities?

vickyO:
She didn't die....... .......wow. o bwoy, where did you get that from?

where did you get that she died ?

POPE II: Mary ascended
Was Eli a divine entity? Answer to it

you didn't answer the question about Eli so please do it

vickyO:
she didn't die .......... o bwoy...... na una bad pass o........... where you see that one.............

instead of using emoticons , please prove to us that she died ?

vickyO: If you think mine is, i agree cause as i said there are some far fetched doctrines there.... why not agree that your church teaches heresies too?

because it doesn't, how can the mother church teach heresies? Please don't your wish for reality. okay? There's a reason why Jesus himself created our Church

vickyO: I didn't insult you, i described you. check the meaning of the word. They're dead to the world i repeat.

oo you described me , anyway I'm not going to join you in the mud . And I repeat they are alive

vickyO: after death is judgment......

Mary didn't die so I don't see your point

vickyO: What has that church got to do with me. i don't know about it. whatever doctrine i come across that isn't biblical, i discourage people from adhering to it.

it was a heretic church just like yours

vickyO: its not about saying our father, slowpoke. It is about praying to the father through Christ Jesus........... "Your saints" are dead to the world.

why do you insult me ?

They are alive