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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Emotionss: 12:43pm On Mar 19, 2021
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BigSarah:
Ok, he was the first white man to discover it... Only whites are allowed to "discover" things.
Think Christopher Columbus.

Same way the told us Christopher Columbus discovered America even though the native Indians have been there for thousands of years before Columbus was even born.
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by mudiana(m): 12:44pm On Mar 19, 2021
This is the reason if u hear someone call another mungo park, it means the person is a mumu. na only mumu dey give name to something already named.
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by sageb: 12:54pm On Mar 19, 2021
Ademola47:
#FactCheck

Who Actually 'discovered' the River Niger?

It's widely believed that Mungo Park 'discovered' the River Niger.

However, there are some unanswered questions to the 'discovery'.

Firstly, history had it that he 'asked' the locals (villagers) for direction to the river. If he was the one that actually 'discovered' the river, how come some people directed him there? Have they not been there before him? How can some people direct him to where he wanted to 'discover'?

Secondly, the locals are believed to be bathing, fishing and fetching water from the 'undiscovered' river. If he was the one that actually 'discovered' the River first, he should be the one to first bath or swim in the river. But this is not so.

Lastly, while some people believe that he discovered the River 'mouth', others believe he discovered it for the British. Why is there no generally accepted direct answer to the question "What did Mungo Park discover"?

He is not the first person to have been there but he is the first to have written about it. so the colonial masters gave him the credit for that.
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Nobody: 12:55pm On Mar 19, 2021
Ademola47:


Publicity in what sense?
Because the villagers knew it was in existence already.

So if I come out one day and say I discover one River in Abeokuta or Osun, and then tell the British about it, I will be credited as its discoverer.

Yes if you can give undocumented information about the river.
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Danosophe(m): 12:55pm On Mar 19, 2021
[b][/b]This story is one amongst many lies the Colonial masters; British, told/taught us during our early school; primary school, years.

Mungo Park did not Discover River Niger. He only Named it "River Niger" when he did/had his sea voyage thru it, from the Niger Republic. There were people already living around the riverine area, and also had a/names by which they called it. But it was not recognized as such.

So, this lie should be Done Away forthwith, and not to be taught in our schools again.
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by KenModi(m): 1:05pm On Mar 19, 2021
mansakhalifa:


Why do we major so much in the minor as Nigerians??

Is this still an issue?

Of course it is an issue, you have been fed lies all your life as your history.

If you have no sense of your true history, you are but lost.
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by KenModi(m): 1:11pm On Mar 19, 2021
Aaronsrod:
Mungo Park was the first true Christian to enter that part. So he indeed discovered the land and its people in the eyes of God for the first time.

See why they say “religion is the opium of the people”?

“He discovered it in the eyes of God”. Same God who created the people, the lands and the rivers. What are you first discovering in the eyes of the person who created it? grin grin grin

Chai! The whiteman’s brainwashing system called Christianity really got to you.

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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by GerogeI(m): 1:13pm On Mar 19, 2021
Aaronsrod:
Mungo Park was the first true Christian to enter that part. So he indeed discovered the land and its people in the eyes of God for the first time.

Are you not being idiotic?

So God did not know the natives , only Mungo Park. Or the natives are not worth to be human beings in the eyes of God.

Following your Logic, Paul also discovered Rome, since he was the first true Christian to enter that part, so he discovered the land and it's people in the eyes of God for the first time.
How come the former Roman slaves/ colony/savages called Britons did not teach us this truth about the Jewish Paul along with Christianity when they came to forcefully colonize our lands.

Talk of colonial brainwashing- keeping black africa under the table. If the Brits were still here, as usual they will select you to lead the rest of us, as you have shown extra ordinary brilliance.

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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by KenModi(m): 1:14pm On Mar 19, 2021
illicit:
I think he discovered the source....



Ofcourse the river has always been there

Who said the people living in the communities close to and along the river didn’t know the source? Mungo Park discovered nothing new, maybe he was just the first European to get to the source.

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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by KenModi(m): 1:15pm On Mar 19, 2021
thebosstrevor1:
To the western world.

The natives discovered it first but mango park discovered it for the western world.

The river niger has a native name but i have forgotten it, will post it after.

Please do. We need to rename it. Just the way we would be pushing to rename the so called “Lake Victoria” in East Africa.
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Sleekfingers: 1:22pm On Mar 19, 2021
Ademola47:
#FactCheck

Who Actually 'discovered' the River Niger?

It's widely believed that Mungo Park 'discovered' the River Niger.

However, there are some unanswered questions to the 'discovery'.

Firstly, history had it that he 'asked' the locals (villagers) for direction to the river. If he was the one that actually 'discovered' the river, how come some people directed him there? Have they not been there before him? How can some people direct him to where he wanted to 'discover'?

Secondly, the locals are believed to be bathing, fishing and fetching water from the 'undiscovered' river. If he was the one that actually 'discovered' the River first, he should be the one to first bath or swim in the river. But this is not so.

Lastly, while some people believe that he discovered the River 'mouth', others believe he discovered it for the British. Why is there no generally accepted direct answer to the question "What did Mungo Park discover"?





naso some moronic nigerians dey talk say one Mary stop the killing of twins in nigeria. Instead of , Mary stopped the killing of twins in calabar.....

Here in the southwest, in our history and culture , we dont kill or have killed twins....we cherish them......ejire ...
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by KenModi(m): 1:23pm On Mar 19, 2021
greenskittles:

Listen to yourself. So God had nothing to do with black people until our white "saviors" came for us? The same Europeans that enslaved us? The indigenes there were the eyes of Satan or what?

Don’t mind these religiously brainwashed idiiots. Same Europeans who justified slavery using the bible. In fact the Catholic church played a crucial role in facilitating slavery especially in Brazil even having a church in the top floor of a building in a plantation and telling slaves every Sunday that their suffering on earth is their trial for the great reward in heaven. Rubbish!

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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by GerogeI(m): 1:24pm On Mar 19, 2021
olisaEze:
Okay this is going to be a long one, but bear with me first.

Mungo Park is credited as the discoverer of the River Niger for more than one reason.

Yes locals lived and traded on its banks for centuries, but the river was not added to the map we use till date because of the locals but him.

Oh yes, your country is still being mapped out from the mold left by the colonials.

The river was known by another name to the locals but guess what, the name on the map is River Niger! grin As quoted by guess again, Mungo Park! grin

You trek ya own and rediscover it along with new boundaries for ur own personal country too. tongue tongue


You mean the British map?
Are you aware there are various other map sources. You only choose the most popular due to British indoctrination.

Even the British choose theres due to Roman indoctrination. None of these claims is a Universal truth as being stated.

My own forefathers drew their own maps on sand and tree barks. Who says they have no credit? They called the river Orimili. And passed that information through Oral tales.
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by KenModi(m): 1:27pm On Mar 19, 2021
njokue519:
I heard he was the one who sacrificed himself for the bridge to be built. Chikinna

grin grin grin

Just the way India used juju at the Football World cup and played bare footed, hence they got banned for life from the competition.

Stop dey believe rubbish stories!

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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by KoshCAD: 1:31pm On Mar 19, 2021
BigSarah:
Ok, he was the first white man to discover it... Only whites are allowed to "discover" things.
Think Christopher Columbus.
grin No kill me with laugh o
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by KenModi(m): 1:32pm On Mar 19, 2021
kayswag100:
Some of the very rubbish "facts" thrown at us in History classes

tonididdy:
Who be mungo park?

How is it possible one man discovers a river... Aren't there settlers around the water already.


Why does he has to claim discovery?

lekki1444:
that nigga couldnt even discover that he was going to die in naija let alone discover the river niger

Ahmed0336:
Nope, he met the river there. He only gave it publicity.

CandyOps:
That shii still sounds funny to me. No be only discover na Discovery Channel.

You come person village from Yankee say you discover their river. So all the people wey done de use am since na recover dem recover am. Ode mugoyor

drnoel:


No he wasn't the first to discover the river Niger. The tale is false. Annoying things is that they made us learn it by heart.

Khayceeofficial:
Burna Boy already gave an answer...


They lied to us that mungo discovered River Niger.

was he the first man to tread on the river or walk past it?

I'd say NO!

what bout the locals way back?

Just like they said one German guy discovered mountain gorillas in East Africa. Upon hearing it, I asked myself, what rubbish story is this; were people were not living near the mountain, what about the local settlements close to the mountain. Heck there may have been even Africans settled and living in those mountains.

We need a total overhaul of our education system in Africa especially the history lessons in order not to continue teaching these junk cooked up by white people to future African generations.

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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Nobody: 1:34pm On Mar 19, 2021
BigSarah:
Ok, he was the first white man to discover it... Only whites are allowed to "discover" things.
Think Christopher Columbus.
Are you a chubby girl?
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by WoundedLamb: 1:35pm On Mar 19, 2021
Lol... If Christopher Columbus discovered America (with the people living there), then this shouldn't be shocking.

Back then, the word "discover" was used by European explorers who were travelling far and wide looking for new resources (rivers, lands, people, etc.). The western world didn't know about the existence of the river till Mungo found it and made it known to them thus the reason they say he discovered it. Technically speaking, it's not wrong for them to teach that to their kids cause from thier perspective, Mungo actually discovered (found) a river they didn't know existed. However, Africa should have sieved out that part while taking in western education. Or better still, they could have phrased it as "Mungo park was the first European to know about the river Niger".

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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Nobody: 1:36pm On Mar 19, 2021
thebosstrevor1:
To the western world.

The natives discovered it first but mango park discovered it for the western world.

The river niger has a native name but i have forgotten it, will post it after.
Was his body taken back to his home country or he was buried here in Nigeria.
Cause history said he died here in Nigeria
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Spongia1(m): 1:42pm On Mar 19, 2021
“There are two answers to the things they will teach you about our land: the real answer and the answer you give in school to pass. You must read books and learn both answers. I will give you books, excellent books.” Master stopped to sip his tea. “They will teach you that a white man called Mungo Park discovered River Niger. That is rubbish. Our people fished in the Niger long before Mungo Park’s grandfather was born. But in your exam, write that it was Mungo Park.”

- Odenigbo (Half of a Yellow Sun)
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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by sincerelymine: 1:45pm On Mar 19, 2021
You don't tell your story because you don't appreciate it? some else else will tell it in a way that befits their cause.
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by illicit(m): 1:46pm On Mar 19, 2021
KenModi:


Who said the people living in the communities close to and along the river didn’t know the source? Mungo Park discovered nothing new, maybe he was just the first European to get to the source.


Lol u are funny and naive at the same time



The source of the river can be discovered only by divers and experts not just fishermen and swimmers


Do u remember how he(Mungo park) died
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by fidelisodogbo: 1:46pm On Mar 19, 2021
You do not discover something that is already in use by the people who lived around it. Nigerians know the Niger river from its mouth to tail. British history about Nigeria was fabricated to hide their motives. They came to plunder and colonize but disguised as discoverers because it was during the age of discovery (post christendom, modernity) They saw the river and called it Niger - an evolved name they called us at their first contact with blacks - Nigga. That's were the name Nigeria was derived (niggarian)
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Nobody: 1:47pm On Mar 19, 2021
ZINIIBANKS:

Was his body taken back to his home country or he was buried here in Nigeria.
Cause history said he died here in Nigeria

I believe he died here, but nobody knows exactly.

Some say in jebba and some said in old bassau near the border to northern republic of benin around lake kainji, present kainji dam
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by KenModi(m): 1:53pm On Mar 19, 2021
illicit:



Lol u are funny and naive at the same time



The source of the river can be discovered only by divers and experts not just fishermen and swimmers


Do u remember how he(Mungo park) died

Funny and naive you say?

So for centuries, no one, no single person living close to or around the river knew where the river came from and where it eventually ends. No single person thought of reaching the source of the river. Even near the source of the river there were no settled communities around it? Until Mungo Park came, then the much elusive source of the river Niger was discovered. You do know he wouldn’t have made it up to half of his journey without the assistance of locals who pointed him in the right direction?

And what did he die of exactly, trying to get to the source of the river? Heard he died of malaria. True or not, I really don’t give two flying fvcks though.

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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Ellasure: 2:00pm On Mar 19, 2021
Your type of question is lazy intellectually and stupid economically. Do you understand diction, use and implications of your words. Anyway, today very many people are given to propaganda and deliberate falsification of truth.

when they say mungo Park discovered river niger. The statement implied political and economic benefits of the river to the world. If cared to read the history of the Mungo Park journey to the river you find it interesting because the search for the river was actually in search of arguments among scientists of yore that the world was round. Because of the assertion that the world is round calculations of the weight of the world showed that there is a land mass and a river in this part of the African landmass . Check advance level physics at HSC class or 100 & 200 levels in the university for the discussions.

Based on the scientific discussion and calculations, a search was sought by the European societies and mungo Park and team were sent out to search locate and report back to the society.

Mungo Park tried at first but all his company died from Arab killers in northern Africa and some that got beyond the desert to West Africa died from tsetse fly bites and mosquito.

On the second journey he arrived Africa at present day Gambia Senegal land areas where some European establishement exist and was guided to the interior by following stories as told by Africans coming from the hinterlands Through the persistence of Mr mungo Park he got to a river around Timbuktu@1760 in the midst of savages of slavery and slave buyers and sellers about that time.


Did he discovered river niger as you have read here? Let us give credit to the young man, with his efforts Africa was opened up by subsequent European visits and civilization ensured. Don't be ignorant read your history before fulani militia and cattle rearers tell you another history.

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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by AdakaBoro8(m): 2:01pm On Mar 19, 2021
Ademola47:


Publicity in what sense?
Because the villagers knew it was in existence already.

So if I come out one day and say I discover one River in Abeokuta or Osun, and then tell the British about it, I will be credited as its discoverer.
u correct. Ijaws were already there before monguno or what met them.
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by oglalasioux(m): 2:01pm On Mar 19, 2021
Before Mungo Park nobody knew the source of the Niger. It's course was even unknown. There were so many stories and speculations about the river. Mungo Park put all these to rest by mapping out it's course and finding the source. That's why it's said he discovered the Niger.

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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Ellasure: 2:08pm On Mar 19, 2021
Remember that sending people to the moon and space objects is being based on scientific discussion and calculations that projects vision of supposition and eventual search. The same calculations used then are taught widely today.

Whom can you compare mungo Park with today in exploration activities? Elon musk? Zuckerberg?

The Europeans are still exploring while the fulani tribes continue their brigandage, wanton destruction etc as they have been doing on the African landmass since 1700. Arabs never have good design for Africa.

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