Kobojunkie:
I didn't quote a verse... i posted a whole passage where Jesus Christ discusses some of what I included in the questions I asked you

Read again...
In His New Covenant, Jesus Christ's Teachings define for us what Sin is. So, the answer to that question would have to come from His commandments/teachings as contained in the above passage.

There's no commandment on politics there. Since you can't answer directly. Bye bye.

Adjovi:

There's no commandment on politics there. Since you can't answer directly. Bye bye.

Ok

the Bible says when the righteous rule people rejoice
but when the wicked rule people morn

but unfortunately some believer are ignorant and lazy they don't take time to study the word of God anymore

if you tell me believer should not join politics the how do you want the righteous to rule?brethren wake up from ur slumber and ask the holy spirit to move you to the deeper knowledge of the bible

Kobojunkie:
What are you talking about now?
Jesus Christ was a bit mischievous? In what way?

Causing a rukus in the temple...that was mischievious...had he done that today in any church he would be called an antichrist. That's why i said that.

After reading some of comments here, I could see that those supporting Christians to go into politics are quoting from the book of old testaments. But with my little knowledge about bible, I think Christianity mean living a Christ like. And the disciples were first called Christians in antioch - Act 11vs26. So my submission, you can not make reference to old testament when talking about Christianity because those in the old testaments live under the law and were referred to as men/people of God. So, to live a Christ like, it will be so difficult to be a Christian politician in Nigeria. So in this context, I haven't seen, I repeat, I haven't seen any politicians who I can called a Christian. You can be a church goer politicians and not be a Christian. Even those we have seen to be one, several times, we've heard them told lies. Though they will call it diplomatic lies. But lie is lie.
PEACE.

Kobojunkie:
Set the theories aside when it comes to the Kingdom of God and answer one question. Have you ever met any leader in your life who exudes the teachings of Jesus Christ in Truth and indeed?
Neither David, nor Solomon, the so-called wisest King, lived up to your standard of a "true, real leader", so what makes you think any man can?

So, are Jesus teachings theories?

Yes, a leader who loves & fear God, and loves his people as him/herself

I hold without any reservation that David is an exemplary true, real leader. Moses and Joshua are both another exceptional leaders (you can study more about their lives)

Jesus in Matt 5:5 says Blessed are the meek; for they shall inherit the earth.

This simply means those who humble themselves and serve shall rule, influence and lead the people...so why can't these people be Christians?

Note: Jesus never preached or taught against believers participating in the political or governmental affairs rather He charged believers to be better and even blessed us to be leaders according to Matt 5:5. Even during His life here on earth, He had many disciples in position of authority, governance, and administration such as Nicodemus, Joseph of Arimathea, Zaccheous and many others not mentioned in the Bible

Kobojunkie:
I say? I posted passages for you to read for yourself what Jesus Christ Himself said.
I didn't pick quotes... I picked passages out for you to read for yourself what your Jesus Christ Himself said.
Are you suggesting that you have a special interpretation too for what Jesus Christ is quoted as saying in this passage as well?

The life that YOU HAVE.

This is where I have an issue with you...you dont seem to understand the grammar used...second time you are misunderstanding simple grammar. The life that you have is not the same as your life.

Jesus didnt preach that we should disregard human life and follow him....which is even silly because following christ means to uphold human life. So why would a man who upholds human life enough to die for humans to be saved, tell you to disregard human life and follow him? Followe him to do what exactly? I just dont get you. You think to proclaim him as your lord and saviour is all you need? Are we that delusional? The proclaimations come with duties, the duties involves loving your neighbour as yourself.

The passage reading "we must stop thinking about ourselves and what we want" clearly points to stop being selfish. It doesnt mean if someone wants to kill me i should do nothing about it. That is being foolish.

Evil reigns when good people refuse to act....then the good people become evil men because they watch with unconcern.

The art and science of administering a secular state do which is politics do not mix with true christianity.

Jesus refused a would be imposed kingly position, he roundedly refused it.( Bible book of John 6:10-15) My government is not a part of this world and not a source of it.

How Did Jesus View Politics?

THE Gospel writers describe several events in Jesus’ ministry that brought him face-to-face with politics. For instance, shortly after Jesus’ baptism at about the age of 30, the Devil offered him the position of world ruler. Later in his ministry, a crowd wanted to make him their king. Still later, people tried to turn him into a political activist. How did Jesus react? Let us consider these events.

World ruler. The Gospels state that the Devil offered Jesus rulership over “all the kingdoms of the world.” Think of how much good Jesus could have done for suffering mankind if he had wielded the power of a world ruler! What politically oriented individual sincerely concerned with mankind’s advancement could resist such an offer? But Jesus refused it.​—Matthew 4:8-11.

King. Many of Jesus’ contemporaries were desperate for a ruler who could solve their economic and political problems. Impressed by Jesus’ abilities, the people wanted Jesus to join the political process. What was his reaction? Gospel writer John states: “Jesus, knowing they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountain all alone.” (John 6:10-15) Clearly, Jesus refused to become involved in politics.

Political activist. Note what happened days before Jesus was put to death. Disciples of the Pharisees, who favored independence from the Roman Empire, joined by Herodians, members of a political party favoring Rome, approached Jesus. They wanted to force him to take a political position. They asked if the Jews should pay taxes to Rome.

Mark recorded Jesus’ response: “‘Why do you put me to the test? Bring me a denarius to look at.’ They brought one. And he said to them: ‘Whose image and inscription is this?’ They said to him: ‘Caesar’s.’ Jesus then said: ‘Pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.’” (Mark 12:13-17) Commenting on the reason for Jesus’ response, the book Church and State​—The Story of Two Kingdoms concludes: “He refused to act the part of a political messiah and carefully established both the boundary of Caesar and that of God.”

Problems such as poverty, corruption, and injustice did not leave Christ unmoved. In fact, the Bible shows that he was deeply touched by the pitiful state of the people around him. (Mark 6:33, 34) Still, Jesus did not start a campaign to rid the world of injustices, although some tried hard to get him embroiled in the controversial issues of the day.

Clearly, as these examples show, Jesus refused to get involved in political affairs. But what about Christians today? What should they do?

kimco:

Causing a rukus in the temple...that was mischievious...had he done that today in any church he would be called an antichrist. That's why i said that.

He was called demon possessed by those who had established themselves as religious leaders/authorities in His time, and I doubt many of those who claim to believe Him would recognize Him even today since their belief is mostly based on their ideas/opinions(doctrines and traditions of men) of His teachings insteads.

Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven

This is Jesus speaking

So nothing stops a true believer of Jesus from actively involved in politics and governance, just let your light shines, be different

John 1:5 And the light shines in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not

A Christian have every right to be in politics

Kobojunkie:
From my research and experience, it seems that is indeed the case, but I am only about 3 years into this journey myself - less than the disciples on the day of Pentecost.

Wow. So basically you can't excel at anything, you have to be mediocre all your life? And not just mediocre, you have to remain at the level of an unskilled labourer? That's very tough o! Who are you going to help that way if I may ask?

iyasco90:
So, are Jesus teachings theories?

Your ideas, not Jesus Christ's teachings.

iyasco90:
Yes, a leader who loves & fear God, and loves his people as him/herself

Name one who leader you have ever known to have met this criteria.

iyasco90:
I hold without any reservation that David is an exemplary true, real leader. Moses and Joshua are both another exceptional leaders (you can study more about their lives)

The same David, Moses and Joshua written of in the Bible? You have never actually read their stories for yourself, have you?
Moses, was used by God to lead the people out of Egypt and to the promised land but a leader -- that's a stretch since God was the one leading the people and providing for them, using Moses as His messenger. Same goes for Joshua!

iyasco90:
Jesus in Matt 5:5 says Blessed are the meek; for they shall inherit the earth.
This simply means those who humble themselves and serve shall rule, influence and lead the people...so why can't these people be Christians?

So, have these "meek" folks that Jesus Christ spoke of, inherited the world yet? Or are they still waiting to inherit the world?
Since the same Jesus Christ declared Blessed that those of poor spirit will have Heaven, doesn't that maybe give you a hint as to the when the "inheriting" will be taking place i.e. after His return, and not before?

iyasco90:
Note: Jesus never preached or taught against believers participating in the political or governmental affairs rather He charged believers to be better and even blessed us to be leaders according to Matt 5:5. Even during His life here on earth, He had many disciples in position of authority, governance, and administration such as Nicodemus, Joseph of Arimathea, Zaccheous and many others not mentioned in the Bible

Nicodemus aside, Zaccheus, and Joseph Arimathea were all men already deemed righteous according to the Old Covenant teachings. And, nowhere in the Bible are you told that any of these men converted to becoming followers of Jesus Christ, for whom these laws are intended.

You claim that Jesus Christ charged believers to be better... what I think instead is that you need to re-read the passage, this time, resisting every urge to INJECT your thoughts and opinions(special interpretation) into what Jesus Christ said.

Matthew 20 vs 20-28 (ESV)
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20. Then Zebedee’s wife came to Jesus and brought her sons. [/b]She bowed before Jesus and asked him to do something for her.
[b] 21. Jesus said, “What do you want?”
She said, “Promise that one of my sons will sit at your right side in your kingdom and the other at your left.”
22. So Jesus said to the sons, “You don’t understand what you are asking. Can you drink from the cup[a] that I must drink from?”
The sons answered, “Yes, we can!”
23. Jesus said to them, “It is true that you will drink from the cup that I drink from. But it is not for me to say who will sit at my right or my left. My Father has decided who will do that. He has prepared those places for them.”
24. The other ten followers heard this and were angry with the two brothers.
25. So Jesus called the followers together. He said, “You know that the rulers of the non-Jewish people love to show their power over the people. And their important leaders love to use all their authority over the people.
26. But it should not be that way with you. Whoever wants to be your leader must be your servant.
27. Whoever wants to be first must serve the rest of you like a slave.
28. Do as I did: The Son of Man did not come for people to serve him. He came to serve others and to give his life to save many people.”

Let Jesus Christ speak His Words to you, rather than you speaking on behalf of Jesus Christ in this case.

MaxInDHouse:


Well the one and only form of government God intended from inception is THEOCRACY, Satan is the initiator of all other forms of government!
This is the main reason why God has delayed His kingdom up till now, many like you still hope in human government not knowing that Mankind has tried so many forms from Monarchy to Aristocracy and so many others until finally America is now preaching Democracy.
There is no time now but if you study the Bible book of Daniel 2 about Nebuchadnezzar's dream you'll grasp how different forms of government kept falling until mankind now decided to hold unto Democracy. @ Daniel 2:44 we read that during the time of the end people will be changing their rulers and instead of what was prevalent during Nebuchadnezzar's time (Government of the people by one royal family) it will be the people themselves that will choose who will rule over them. But all these are rubbish before God so he will exterminate all of them!


There is no place on this planet where people aren't suffering from illnesses, crime, injustice, suffering and death, it's all the same. What we are anticipating now is God's Kingdom where everything will be perfect! Matthew 6:10



It's like you don't know what Adam and Eve enjoyed in Eden. Please let me enlighten you perhaps you can find anything closer to that now!

They have the prospect of living forever as youths in perfect health conditions no sickness will befall them! Isaiah 33:24
They are in control of all other creatures from the greatest to the smallest so they can walk anytime, anywhere and swim in any kind of water without the fear of predators because all the creatures are subjected to man! Isaiah 11:6
They don't have to work hard before eating as the works they'll do is just like exercising their bodies. Psalms 72:16
Their bodies are so perfect that they won't get tired will going around and playing with all kinds of animals. Job 33:25
They are to continue expanding the Paradisiac garden until the earth is filled with people living in everywhere on the surface of this planet.
There is no natural disaster that's coming to hurt them! Psalms 67:6-7
Nobody will grow old, get sick or die! Revelations 21:3-5

Please what do you have to say about such condition if it's not PERFECT?

1. Democracy had heavy roots in greece and rome, not America.

2. How do you know that God intended theocracy to be the one and only way....and besides why do you speak as if theocracy ended in the garden of eden? It didnt...it continued and reek harvoc....spanish inquisition...the crusade etc.

3. What you posted regarding daniel 2:44 is very poor interpretation i have come to expect. Even royal families were changed frequently because bigger kingdoms kept trying to expand their reach. There was always only a few rulers that stayed on for long. Lots of the smaller kingdoms were clean out regularly....even within the royal families there was always some form of internal struggle...rulers changed all the time...even in a monarchy. I suggest you learn a bit.


4. Sure diseases and sorrow and pain will always be with us...but even heaven wasnt the greatest place....a war broke out there....im sure if you asked the majority of canadians if they were happy in life they would confirm, vrs africa...diseases abound....but getting great medical service helps greatly to mitigate this pain and suffering....vrs the amount of prayers africans have been offering every minute that yields no results...no where is perfect.

5. If you think what you listed is perfect, no wonder africans find themselves in this filth...we really are a lazy bunch. This reeks of laziness and extreme boredom. This is not perfect, eventually we will get bored and eat the forbidden fruit anyways. Might be perfect for ypu, Im not surprised, but not some of us.


The better question is....why was the tree there in the first place? We are a curious bunch, he created us this way....surely God knew we would be curious enough to taste the fruit...someday

Sir no where is perfect, because no one is perfect....man is not perfect and adam was not created perfect, neither was eve....they were created curious susceptible to deceit (by God and satan alike)

Keep on praying for heaven...better yet, go to saudi arabia and preach there, your end will be swift and you will meet the heaven you so long for.

Kobojunkie:
I am simply a follower of Jesus Christ, obeying His commandments as stipulated.

And what are his commandments?

LordReed:
Wow. So basically you can't excel at anything, you have to be mediocre all your life? And not just mediocre, you have to remain at the level of an unskilled labourer? That's very tough o! Who are you going to help that way if I may ask?

I am afraid I made a mistake in my previous response to you. Yes, you can be your own boss and run your own business. Technically, what Jesus Christ had with His disciples can be construed as a business relationship of sorts where Jesus Christ, the business owner, offered a service to His clients, His disciples, and the people at the time, by serving them, through the taking care of their needs, and wants, and instructing them of the Truth as far as His Kingdom is concerned.
You have to pay attention to the rule here as far as what Jesus Christ means. He did not state that His followers are only those who will remain at the level of unskilled labourers.

Matthew 20 vs 20-28 (ESV)
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20. Then Zebedee’s wife came to Jesus and brought her sons. [/b]She bowed before Jesus and asked him to do something for her.
[b] 21. Jesus said, “What do you want?”
She said, “Promise that one of my sons will sit at your right side in your kingdom and the other at your left.”
22. So Jesus said to the sons, “You don’t understand what you are asking. Can you drink from the cup[a] that I must drink from?”
The sons answered, “Yes, we can!”
23. Jesus said to them, “It is true that you will drink from the cup that I drink from. But it is not for me to say who will sit at my right or my left. My Father has decided who will do that. He has prepared those places for them.”
24. The other ten followers heard this and were angry with the two brothers.
25. So Jesus called the followers together. He said, “You know that the rulers of the non-Jewish people love to show their power over the people. And their important leaders love to use all their authority over the people.
26. But it should not be that way with you. Whoever wants to be your leader must be your servant.
27. Whoever wants to be first must serve the rest of you like a slave.
28. Do as I did: The Son of Man did not come for people to serve him. He came to serve others and to give his life to save many people.”

As far as excelling at anything, there is no rule against that. One is able to excel at whatever one desires to excel at. One does not need to be a leader or an authority in order to excel at what one does. Mediocrity is a choice.

iyasco90:
Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven
This is Jesus speaking
So nothing stops a true believer of Jesus from actively involved in politics and governance, just let your light shines, be different
John 1:5 And the light shines in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not

A Christian have every right to be in politics

Did Jesus Christ, the Light of men, shine when Jesus Christ was on earth? YES
Did Jesus Christ need to occupy a political position of sorts in order for that to happen? NO
So, why do you then jump to the conclusion that a Christian has every right to be in politics?

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid I made a mistake in my previous response to you. Yes, you can be your own boss and run your own business. Technically, what Jesus Christ had with His disciples can be construed as a business relationship of sorts where Jesus Christ, the business owner, offered a service to His clients, His disciples, and the people at the time, by serving them, through the taking care of their needs, and wants, and instructing them of the Truth as far as His Kingdom is concerned.
You have to pay attention to the rule here as far as what Jesus Christ means. He did not state that His followers are only those who will remain at the level of unskilled labourers.

As far as excelling at anything, there is no rule against that. One is able to excel at whatever one desires to excel at. One does not need to be a leader or an authority in order to excel at what one does. Mediocrity is a choice.

The challenge here is once you excel you'll not be at the level of those who haven't. People take you more seriously, they come looking for your expertise, they refer you to others, you do become a thought leader of sorts. So does this go against this stricture?

LordReed:
The challenge here is once you excel you'll not be at the level of those who haven't. People take you more seriously, they come looking for your expertise, they refer you to others, you do become a thought leader of sorts. So does this go against this stricture?

I am yet to find out!

Jesus Christ was an expert of sorts Himself and we read of how the many Pharisees and Teachers of the Law approached Him either to get answers from Him or test Him. He calls His followers to do as He did.

Kobojunkie:
He was called demon possessed by those who had established themselves as religious leaders/authorities in His time, and I doubt many of those who claim to believe Him would recognize Him even today since their belief is mostly based on their ideas/opinions(doctrines and traditions of men) of His teachings insteads.

Exactly...you have the advantage of hindsight, that's why you talk like this,maybe even you would call him a demon had he been here today.

Please i tender an apology for chatting with you Sir!
Considering your comments with no single reference to the scriptures shows how you treat God's word in your heart! Psalms 14:1
I'm here to brighten the hope of those who BELIEVE (TRUST) in the word not those who have no regards for the word. Proverbs 3:5

What i said is about FAITH: The expectation of things hoped for the evident demonstration of realities though not visible {Hebrew 11:1} i'm sorry this has to do with believers only because FAITH in itself is not a possession of all kinds of people! 2Thessalonians 3:2

May you have PEACE Sir!

kimco:

1. Democracy had heavy roots in greece and rome, not America.
2. How do you know that God intended theocracy to be the one and only way....and besides why do you speak as if theocracy ended in the garden of eden? It didnt...it continued and reek harvoc....spanish inquisition...the crusade etc.
3. What you posted regarding daniel 2:44 is very poor interpretation i have come to expect. Even royal families were changed frequently because bigger kingdoms kept trying to expand their reach. There was always only a few rulers that stayed on for long. Lots of the smaller kingdoms were clean out regularly....even within the royal families there was always some form of internal struggle...rulers changed all the time...even in a monarchy. I suggest you learn a bit.
4. Sure diseases and sorrow and pain will always be with us...but even heaven wasnt the greatest place....a war broke out there....im sure if you asked the majority of canadians if they were happy in life they would confirm, vrs africa...diseases abound....but getting great medical service helps greatly to mitigate this pain and suffering....vrs the amount of prayers africans have been offering every minute that yields no results...no where is perfect.
5. If you think what you listed is perfect, no wonder africans find themselves in this filth...we really are a lazy bunch. This reeks of laziness and extreme boredom. This is not perfect, eventually we will get bored and eat the forbidden fruit anyways. Might be perfect for ypu, Im not surprised, but not some of us.
The better question is....why was the tree there in the first place? We are a curious bunch, he created us this way....surely God knew we would be curious enough to taste the fruit...someday
Sir no where is perfect, because no one is perfect....man is not perfect and adam was not created perfect, neither was eve....they were created curious susceptible to deceit (by God and satan alike)
Keep on praying for heaven...better yet, go to saudi arabia and preach there, your end will be swift and you will meet the heaven you so long for.

kimco:
Exactly...you have the advantage of hindsight, that's why you talk like this,maybe even you would call him a demon had he been here today.

I think you have it upside down there. I accept His teachings, so if He were to show up in today's world speaking and doing even some of the same things He did 2000 years ago, I would probably be one of the last persons to think of rejecting Him.

Kobojunkie:
I think you have it upside down there. I accept His teachings, so if He were to show up in today's world speaking and doing even some of the same things He did 2000 years ago, I would probably be one of the last persons to think of rejecting Him.

When he came, his teachings were not the norm...what if he comes again, different from what you think should be? You have a certain idea of Jesus, if he comes differently, you might not agree with him....its a possibility.

indigene:
The art of science and administering a secular state do not mix with true christianity.
Jesus refused a would be imposed kingly position, he roundedly refused it.( Bible book of John 6:10-15) My government is not a part of this world and not a source of it.
Additional Material
How Did Jesus View Politics?
How Did Jesus View Politics?

THE Gospel writers describe several events in Jesus’ ministry that brought him face-to-face with politics. For instance, shortly after Jesus’ baptism at about the age of 30, the Devil offered him the position of world ruler. Later in his ministry, a crowd wanted to make him their king. Still later, people tried to turn him into a political activist. How did Jesus react? Let us consider these events.

World ruler. The Gospels state that the Devil offered Jesus rulership over “all the kingdoms of the world.” Think of how much good Jesus could have done for suffering mankind if he had wielded the power of a world ruler! What politically oriented individual sincerely concerned with mankind’s advancement could resist such an offer? But Jesus refused it.​—Matthew 4:8-11.

King. Many of Jesus’ contemporaries were desperate for a ruler who could solve their economic and political problems. Impressed by Jesus’ abilities, the people wanted Jesus to join the political process. What was his reaction? Gospel writer John states: “Jesus, knowing they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountain all alone.” (John 6:10-15) Clearly, Jesus refused to become involved in politics.

Political activist. Note what happened days before Jesus was put to death. Disciples of the Pharisees, who favored independence from the Roman Empire, joined by Herodians, members of a political party favoring Rome, approached Jesus. They wanted to force him to take a political position. They asked if the Jews should pay taxes to Rome.

Mark recorded Jesus’ response: “‘Why do you put me to the test? Bring me a denarius to look at.’ They brought one. And he said to them: ‘Whose image and inscription is this?’ They said to him: ‘Caesar’s.’ Jesus then said: ‘Pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.’” (Mark 12:13-17) Commenting on the reason for Jesus’ response, the book Church and State​—The Story of Two Kingdoms concludes: “He refused to act the part of a political messiah and carefully established both the boundary of Caesar and that of God.”

Problems such as poverty, corruption, and injustice did not leave Christ unmoved. In fact, the Bible shows that he was deeply touched by the pitiful state of the people around him. (Mark 6:33, 34) Still, Jesus did not start a campaign to rid the world of injustices, although some tried hard to get him embroiled in the controversial issues of the day.

Clearly, as these examples show, Jesus refused to get involved in political affairs. But what about Christians today? What should they do?

Why should Jesus accept the devil's offer to rule the world when he owns the world? Going by your logic Jesus and the disciples didn't have jobs as they were told to leave everything take up their cross and follow Christ, why do you as a Christian have a job?

MaxInDHouse:
Please i tender an apology for chatting with you Sir!
Considering your comments with no single reference to the scriptures shows how you treat God's word in your heart! Psalms 14:1
I'm here to brighten the hope of those who BELIEVE (TRUST) in the word not those who have no regards for the word. Proverbs 3:5

What i said is about FAITH: The expectation of things hoped for the evident demonstration of realities though not visible {Hebrew 11:1} i'm sorry this has to do with believers only because FAITH in itself is not a possession of all kinds of people! 2Thessalonians 3:2

May you have PEACE Sir!

I apologise for quoting you sir...surely I thought you had a certain logic to your belief system...but if its on blind faith I see you have no qualification to digest the OPs question in a reasonable way...if all you see in Christ's teaching is faith, then i deeply apologise for indulging....I thought you capable.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid I made a mistake in my previous response to you. Yes, you can be your own boss and run your own business. Technically, what Jesus Christ had with His disciples can be construed as a business relationship of sorts where Jesus Christ, the business owner, offered a service to His clients, His disciples, and the people at the time, by serving them, through the taking care of their needs, and wants, and instructing them of the Truth as far as His Kingdom is concerned.
You have to pay attention to the rule here as far as what Jesus Christ means. He did not state that His followers are only those who will remain at the level of unskilled labourers.

As far as excelling at anything, there is no rule against that. One is able to excel at whatever one desires to excel at. One does not need to be a leader or an authority in order to excel at what one does. Mediocrity is a choice.

Now you shoot yourself in the foot. If Jesus can be constructed by you as a business man then it's safe to say that he was also a leader as well. In a way that way political, he fed people , did miracles and swayed people to himself that the Romans feared he was going to overthrow their government. How much more can politics be seen than what Jesus used? Politics is a way of life you get.

kimco:
When he came, his teachings were not the norm...what if he comes again, different from what you think should be? You have a certain idea of Jesus, if he comes differently, you might not agree with him....its a possibility.

The reason His teachings were not the norm even back then is that His teachings were instead the New Covenant, the Law of the Kingdom of God, a new Contract/agreement between God and man, and Jesus Christ, the embodiment of the contract. The New Covenant, as Jesus Christ stated, is an eternal covenant and the Truth of God, and the only way to the Father(and into His Kingdom).
As for the coming of a different set of ideas, we have already seen that when Mohammed, appeared about 650 years after Jesus Christ, proclaiming he had another way to offer, and we all know how that story went.

EvilPOTATO:
If you leave the wicked and unjust to rule over you just because you feel you are a genuine Christian, then you are in trouble

you answered well and also impacted knowledge to over religious people

Kobojunkie:
I am yet to find out!

Jesus Christ was an expert of sorts Himself and we read of how the many Pharisees and Teachers of the Law approached Him either to get answers from Him or test Him. He calls His followers to do as He did.

Ok. You have opened an interesting line of thought. Let's talk more when you have more information.

Apology accepted Sir.
May you have PEACE!

kimco:

I apologise for quoting you sir...surely I thought you had a certain logic to your belief system...but if its on blind faith I see you have no qualification to digest the OPs question in a reasonable way...if all you see in Christ's teaching is faith, then i deeply apologise for indulging....I thought you capable.

Adjovi:
Now you shoot yourself in the foot. If Jesus can be constructed by you as a business man then it's safe to say that he was also a leader as well. In a way that way political, he fed people , did miracles and swayed people to himself that the Romans feared he was going to overthrow their government. How much more can politics be seen than what Jesus used? Politics is a way of life you get.

You are indeed free to interpret His teachings and works as you choose to.
According to the story, the man had no political dealings as His focus was on God and the things of God as far as His Kingdom was concerned. And His good deeds were not to buy political clout in this World, nor in His Kingdom. According to Him, He served His disciples and people as a servant would... Herod and the Pharisees who were the leaders of that time never did any of that.
Yes, the leaders at the time(The priests, and High priests, the Pharisees, and teachers of the Law, etc.) felt threatened by Him because He had and showed no respect for their offices and their opinions, especially where God is concerned - the power they wielded over the people. But that wasn't of Jesus's fault now, was it.
And when asked whether He was the leader/King of the Jews, Jesus Christ was quite clear in making it clear to them that His Kingdom was not of this world.

Capital NO.

thinkmoney:

You want to spoil my eyes abi! Lol.

Anyway I did read it but I think you argue based on the general theology you were taught in church.

Evidence suggests that jesus' 'cruci-FICTION'( )was of his own doing. The Jews had no power to tell pilot who to murder or who not to.

If you think it was all honey nd milk during the times of Solomon, David, etc, then again you've been deluded by the gentleman at the alter standing behind a pulpit.

Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Al-Shabab, all want us to obey the laws of GOD. I wonder, how would I be able to tell that you speak of the one true God