Jehovah's witnesses is a millenarian restorations Christian denomination with nontrinitarian beliefs distinct from mainstream Christianity. The group reports a worldwide membership of approximately 8.7 million adherents involved in evangelism.

Here are the reasons.


1. The bible saying “the day of death is better than the day of birth" ( Luke 22:17-20 ).

2. Remember “the story of John the Baptist".and pharaoh and the cupbearer( Mark 6:21-29. ).

3. Birthday celebration have pagans root. According to funk & Wagnall’s standard dictionary of folk lore, mythology and legend, these celebrations originated from the belief that on a person's birthday, “evil spirit and influence have the opportunity to attack the celebrant” and that “the presence of the friends and expression of good wishes help to protect the celebrant".



*. The book "The lore of birthday" says that in the ancient times, birthday records were "essential for the casting of a horoscope” and remember, the reason God condemn the ancient city of Babylon was that it's inhabitants practiced astrology, which is a form of divination. ( Isaiah 47:11-15. ).

*. Based on “the mystic science of astrology" the book adds that " birthday candles, in folk belief, are endowed with special magic for granting wishes". The bible however condemn the use of magic, divination, etc. ( Deu18:14 ).


4. The early Christian's did not celebrate birthdays. the world book encyclopedia says that “they considered the celebration of anyone's birth to be a pagans custom.

(5) Jesus Christ, who's lifestyle they endeavor to emulate, never celebrated his birthday nor his disciples after his death

Interview with a Jehovah's witnesses boy of 12 years old.
*. Do you feel deprived for never celebrating your birthday for once? , He said "it's more fun getting a gift when you're least expecting it".

8.9 million souls heading to the lake of fire. May God deliver this captives of Satan in Jesus Christ name.

Afamsi:
8.9 million souls heading to the lake of fire. May God deliver this captives of Satan in Jesus Christ name.

You are 100% right

Even the church name will testify against them on that day.. Am not hating just that love at times hurt in order to save.

Afamsi:
8.9 million souls heading to the lake of fire. May God deliver this captives of Satan in Jesus Christ name.

Lori iro

Afamsi:
8.9 million souls heading to the lake of fire. May God deliver this captives of Satan in Jesus Christ name.

LOL! You came to the thread and saw logical & Biblical reasons for beliefs of the Witnesses but since you couldn’t refute any of the above points, you resorted to the usual unintelligent threats you normally use on your random churchgoer buddies?
FYI, Jehovah’s Witnesses passed that stage long, long ago, sir. John 8:32

DappaD:


LOL! You came to the thread and saw logical & Biblical reasons for beliefs of the Witnesses but since you couldn’t refute any of the above points, you resorted to the usual unintelligent threats you normally use on your random churchgoer buddies?
FYI, Jehovah’s Witnesses passed that stage long, long ago, sir. John 8:32

Cant argue with you cos you are under heavy blind fold... Just praying to God to deliver your souls.

JW starter pack.. umbrella,one hand bag,bible...always trying to convert christians to their own Christianity..

Afamsi:
Cant argue with you cos you are under heavy blind fold... Just praying to God to deliver your souls.

If you REALLY understand the times we’re in(Matthew 16:1-4), you’ll beg Jehovah’s Witnesses to come and preach to you. Ezekiel 7:26, 1Corinthians 7:29-31
Just yesterday, Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide in 240Lands marked the annual commemoration of the death of our Lord Jesus in harmony with his command at Luke 22:19 and we reflected on the importance of the ransom sacrifice as a precious gift that applies individually to everyone of us. Matthew 20:28, Romans 6:23

So you see everything the Witnesses do is guided by Scriptures, not popular tradition.
Ephesians 5:10, 2Timothy 3:16
Thanks!

DappaD:


If you REALLY understand the times we’re in(Matthew 16:1-4), you’ll beg Jehovah’s Witnesses to come and preach to you. Just yesterday, Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide in 240Lands marked the annual commemoration of the death of our Lord Jesus in harmony with his command at Luke 22:19 and we reflected on the importance of the ransom sacrifice as a precious gift that applies individually to everyone of us. Matthew 20:28, Romans 6:23

So you see everything the Witnesses do is guided by Scriptures, not popular tradition.
Ephesians 5:10, 2Timothy 3:16
Thanks!

So Jesus now your Lord and no longer Angel Michael? Hahahaha...confusion has indeed been spread by Charles Russell Tuze

Jashub:
So Jesus now your Lord and no longer Angel Michael? Hahahaha...confusion has indeed been spread by Charles Russell Tuze

The Bible reveals that Jesus is both. Or you can argue with Jesus and Paul at Matthew 16:27, 1Thessalonians 4:16

@ Revelation 22:16, Jesus calls himself the “bright and morning star”, a phrase commonly used to describe the angelic sons of God. Job 38:7, Revelation 12:4

DappaD:


The Bible reveals that Jesus is both. Or you can argue with Jesus and Paul at Matthew 16:27, 1Thessalonians 4:16

@ Revelation 22:16, Jesus calls himself the “bright and morning star”, a phrase commonly used to describe the angelic sons of God. Job 38:7, Revelation 12:4

The bright morning star is now Angel Michael abi? Hahahaha...wow, you really are a comedian.

Jashub:
The bright morning star is now Angel Michael abi? Hahahaha...wow, you really are a comedian.

Angels are morning stars sir!
So is Jesus (Revelation 22:16)

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haddeylium:


Angels are morning stars sir!
So is Jesus (Revelation 22:16)

[/s]Point of correction : Your jesus is a morning star. Not mine.

Jashub:
[s][/s]Point of correction : Your jesus is a morning star. Not mine.

Revelation 22:16, KJV: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

Maybe you'll remove this part from your version

haddeylium:


Angels are morning stars sir!
So is Jesus (Revelation 22:16)

My brother haddeylium! How you dey jare? How was the Memorial from your end?

A human gave reasons and backed his reasons with bible verses why he believed on something,
Yet another human is busy ranting, without quoting a single verse from the Bible to support his own reasons,probably is been long he layed eyes on the Bible.

haddeylium:


Revelation 22:16, KJV: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

Maybe you'll remove this part from your version

Dude, your argument is super weak, because Lucifer is also referred to as "the Morning Star"(Isaiah 14:12), so what the heck are you saying? Or is this Charles' way of categorizing biblical beings just because they appear as titles?

DappaD:


My brother haddeylium! How you dey jare? How was the Memorial from your end?

I'm good brother! .... How're you holding up there too
Memorial?..., couldn't have been better. Hope you did enjoy it too?

Jashub:
Dude, your argument is super weak, because Lucifer is also referred to the Morning Star(Isaiah 14:12), so what the heck are you saying? Or is this Charles' way of categorizing biblical beings just because they appear as titles?

Was Lucifer (Satan) not an Angel?
Are you even serious?

haddeylium:

Was Lucifer (Satan) not an Angel?
Are you even serious?

Your partner in crime believes that Jesus is angel Michael. And his belief stems from the title "Morning Star ", which to me is a very, very wrong way of identifying who Jesus really is.

haddeylium:


I'm good brother! .... How're you holding up there too
Memorial?..., couldn't have been better. Hope you did enjoy it too?

Yes I did. Nothing compares to having the Memorial talk given by a experienced speaker. Certainly, all the invitees in my congregation were truly amazed!

Jashub:
Your partner in crime believes that Jesus is angel Michael. And his belief stems from the title "Morning Star ", which to me is a very, very wrong way of identifying who Jesus really is.

Do you now see why you can't explain why Lucifer and Jesus are called Morning Star?
What do they have in common?
Many people don't really know what Angel means. I understand their Outburst when Jesus is referred to as one.

The Hebrew word mal·ʼakhʹ that was translated to Angel in English means Messenger
So, any spirit son of God that is God's Messenger is called Angel!
Is Jesus a Son of God.... Yes!
Is Jesus God's Messenger ....Yes!


Another name Angels bear is 'Morning stars'

haddeylium:

Do you now see why you can't explain why Lucifer and Jesus are called Morning Star?
What do they have in common?
Many people don't really know what Angel means. I understand their Outburst when Jesus is referred to as one.

The Hebrew word mal·ʼakhʹ that was translated to Angel in English means Messenger
So, any spirit son of God that is God's Messenger is called Angel!
Is Jesus a Son of God.... Yes!
Is Jesus God's Messenger ....Yes!


Another name Angels bear is 'Morning stars'

Your post does not make sense and it is filled with half-truths that do not connect with the true attributes of Jesus.

Now allow me list a very few of those attributes and let us compare them with the attributes of any angel written in the bible.

1. In whose name do people come to pray? Jesus (Matthew 18:19-20). So do we pray in the name of angels? No. That means Jesus is not an angel.

2. Who gives life? Jesus (John 8:51). And from the bible, do angels give life? No. So Jesus is not angel.

3Who searches hearts and minds? Jesus (Revelation2:23). So do angels search the hearts and mind? No. So Jesus is not an angel.

4. Who has the right to forgive sin? Jesus ( Matthew 9:6)
Now, in the bible, has God at any point in time, given ,
authority to any angel to forgive the sins of men? No. So Jesus is not an angel.

5. Who is the Life? Jesus ( John 14:6). Has any angel been called the "life" in the bible? No. So Jesus is not an angel.

6.You can do nothing apart from whom? Jesus (John 15:5). So do you need angels to do things? No. So Jesus is not an angel.

7. Who will judge the nations? Jesus (Matthew 25:31-32 ; Luke 21:36 ;John 5:22-23). Now from the Bible, has God ever committed judgment to any angel before? No. So Jesus is not an angel.



I could go on and on , but time would not permit. But do yourselves a favor and ponder deeply on this.

Jashub:

Your post does not make sense and it is filled with half-truths that do not connect with the true attributes of Jesus.
Now allow me list a very few of those attributes and let us compare them with the attributes of any angel written in the bible.
1. In whose name do people come to pray? Jesus (Matthew 18:19-20). So do we pray in the name of angels? No. That means Jesus is not an angel.
2. Who gives life? Jesus (John 8:51). And from the bible, do angels give life? No. So Jesus is not angel.
3Who searches hearts and minds? Jesus (Revelation2:23). So do angels search the hearts and mind? No. So Jesus is not an angel.
4. Who has the right to forgive sin? Jesus ( Matthew 9:6)
Now, in the bible, has God at any point in time, given ,
authority to any angel forgive the sins of men? No. So Jesus is not an angel.
5. Who is the Life? Jesus ( John 14:6). Has any angel been called the "life" in the bible? No. So Jesus is not an angel.
6.You can do nothing apart from whom? Jesus (John 15:5). So do you need angels to do things? No. So Jesus is not an angel.
7. Who will judge the nations? Jesus (Matthew 25:31-32 ; Luke 21:36 ;John 5:22-23). Now from the Bible, has God ever committed judgment to any angel before? No. So Jesus is not an angel.
I could go on and on , but time would not permit. But do yourselves a favor and ponder deeply on this.

I really feel for you my dear friend because you've responded more than six times on the topic yet you said:

Cant ARGUE with you cos you are under heavy blind fold... Just PRAYING to God to deliver your soul

So do you still remember the difference between PRAYER and ARGUMENT?
Because to me it's like saying "Please you're much better scholars than all other religionsts and i know you guys are fully competent and completely equipped in defending your faith with the scriptures but i just feel you guys are wrong cos everyone i know keep saying you guys are wrong"

MaxInDHouse:

I really feel for you my dear friend because you've responded more than six times on the topic yet you said:



So do you still remember the difference between PRAYER and ARGUMENT?
Because to me it's like saying "Please you're much better scholars than all other religionsts and i know you guys are fully competent and completely equipped in defending your faith with the scriptures but i just feel you guys are wrong cos everyone i know keep saying you guys are wrong"

Oga look well the moniker you quoted. I have not argue with you brain-washed souls cos I dont have time to waste.

Na wah o!
See who i quote see who dey reply!
You well so?

Afamsi:

Oga look well the moniker you quoted. I have not argue with you brain-washed souls cos I dont have time to waste.

MaxInDHouse:

I really feel for you my dear friend because you've responded more than six times on the topic yet you said:



So do you still remember the difference between PRAYER and ARGUMENT?
Because to me it's like saying "Please you're much better scholars than all other religionsts and i know you guys are fully competent and completely equipped in defending your faith with the scriptures but i just feel you guys are wrong cos everyone i know keep saying you guys are wrong"

You seem confused this morning. Who is talking about prayers and arguments? Abi are you hallucinating?

You said you can't argue with JWs but pray for them yet you've made up to seven responses all arguments NO PRAYER!
So think about the highlighted, are you praying for them or ARGUING with them?

Jashub:

You seem confused this morning. Who is talking about prayers and arguments? Abi are you hallucinating?

MaxInDHouse:
You said you can't argue with JWs but pray for them yet you've made up to seven responses all arguments NO PRAYER!
So think about the highlighted, are you praying for them or ARGUING with them?

I never said that. Better check and see who made that comment.

Jashub:
Your post does not make sense and it is filled with half-truths that do not connect with the true attributes of Jesus.

Now allow me list a very few of those attributes and let us compare them with the attributes of any angel written in the bible.

1. In whose name do people come to pray? Jesus (Matthew 18:19-20). So do we pray in the name of angels? No. That means Jesus is not an angel.

2. Who gives life? Jesus (John 8:51). And from the bible, do angels give life? No. So Jesus is not angel.

3Who searches hearts and minds? Jesus (Revelation2:23). So do angels search the hearts and mind? No. So Jesus is not an angel.

4. Who has the right to forgive sin? Jesus ( Matthew 9:6)
Now, in the bible, has God at any point in time, given ,
authority to any angel to forgive the sins of men? No. So Jesus is not an angel.

5. Who is the Life? Jesus ( John 14:6). Has any angel been called the "life" in the bible? No. So Jesus is not an angel.

6.You can do nothing apart from whom? Jesus (John 15:5). So do you need angels to do things? No. So Jesus is not an angel.

7. Who will judge the nations? Jesus (Matthew 25:31-32 ; Luke 21:36 ;John 5:22-23). Now from the Bible, has God ever committed judgment to any angel before? No. So Jesus is not an angel.



I could go on and on , but time would not permit. But do yourselves a favor and ponder deeply on this.

Michael, referred to by some religions as “Saint Michael,” is evidently a name given to Jesus before and after his life on earth. * Michael disputed with Satan after the death of Moses and helped an angel deliver God’s message to the prophet Daniel(Daniel 10:13, 21; Jude 9) Michael lives up to the meaning of his name​—(“Who Is Like God?”​)—by defending God’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies.​—Daniel 12:1; Revelation 12:7.

Consider why it is reasonable to conclude that Jesus is the archangel Michael.

Michael is “the archangel.” (Jude 9) The title “archangel,” meaning “chief of the angels,” appears in only two Bible verses. In both cases, the word is singular, suggesting that only one angel bears that title. One of those verses states that the resurrected Lord Jesus “will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.” (NOTE)not like an arch angel voice(1 Thessalonians 4:​16) Jesus has “an archangel’s voice” because he is the archangel, Michael.

Michael commands an angelic army. “Michael and his angels battled with the dragon,” Satan. (Note)we all know Jesus and his angels drove Satan out of heaven(Revelation 12:7) Michael has great authority in the spirit realm, for he is called “one of the foremost princes” and “the great prince.” (Daniel 10:13, 21; 12:1) These titles designate Michael as “the commander-in-chief of the angelic forces,” as New Testament scholar David E. Aune puts it.

The Bible mentions only one other name of someone having authority over an army of angels. It describes “the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance.” (2 Thessalonians 1:​7, 8; Matthew 16:27) Jesus “went to heaven, and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him.” (1 Peter 3:​21, 22) It would not make sense for God to set up Jesus and Michael as rival commanders of the holy angels. Rather, it is more reasonable to conclude that both names, Jesus and Michael, refer to the same person.

digitalman2811:

Michael, referred to by some religions as “Saint Michael,” is evidently a name given to Jesus before and after his life on earth. * Michael disputed with Satan after the death of Moses and helped an angel deliver God’s message to the prophet Daniel(Daniel 10:13, 21; Jude 9) Michael lives up to the meaning of his name​—(“Who Is Like God?”​)—by defending God’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies.​—Daniel 12:1; Revelation 12:7.

Consider why it is reasonable to conclude that Jesus is the archangel Michael.

Michael is “the archangel.” (Jude 9) The title “archangel,” meaning “chief of the angels,” appears in only two Bible verses. In both cases, the word is singular, suggesting that only one angel bears that title. One of those verses states that the resurrected Lord Jesus “will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.” (NOTE)not like an arch angel voice(1 Thessalonians 4:​16) Jesus has “an archangel’s voice” because he is the archangel, Michael.

Michael commands an angelic army. “Michael and his angels battled with the dragon,” Satan. (Note)we all know Jesus and his angels drove Satan out of heaven(Revelation 12:7) Michael has great authority in the spirit realm, for he is called “one of the foremost princes” and “the great prince.” (Daniel 10:13, 21; 12:1) These titles designate Michael as “the commander-in-chief of the angelic forces,” as New Testament scholar David E. Aune puts it.

The Bible mentions only one other name of someone having authority over an army of angels. It describes “the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance.” (2 Thessalonians 1:​7, 8; Matthew 16:27) Jesus “went to heaven, and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him.” (1 Peter 3:​21, 22) It would not make sense for God to set up Jesus and Michael as rival commanders of the holy angels. Rather, it is more reasonable to conclude that both names, Jesus and Michael, refer to the same person.

The archangel Michael is simply who the Bible says he is. He is the archangel Michael. There is not a single verse of scripture that says the archangel Michael is Jesus Christ.

"To which of the angels did God ever say, 'Sit at my right hand'?" -- Hebrews 1:13. Jesus could not therefore be the archangel Michael because scripture does say that Jesus will sit at the right hand of God the Father. This is something simple and straightforward but you can continue in living in denial.