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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by nograv: 7:47pm On Apr 02, 2021
Foolishbuhari:


Explain how they had a video of when the jet got hit

They were merely filming it and attempting to shoot it down, which unless they had surface to air missiles would have been unsuccessful. As they were filming the plane suffered mechanical failure.

The Taliban who managed to oust advanced soviet forces mainly managed to shot down hind helicopters and not jets. They were armed with shoulder fired surface to air missiles supplied by the CIA.

Al-shabab managed to knock out helicopters but never jet fighters with the use of RPGs.

As a kid I loved military technology so I am well versed in military history.

This sort of propaganda has form. Muath Safi Yousef al-Kasasbeh a Jordanian pilot whose plane crashed over the then islamic state was claimed by Isis. Again they had footage, but analysis showed the plane suffered mechanical failure.

The only successful downing of a advanced jet by a native insurgent army was in the former Yugoslavia, where an advanced F117A stealth jet was shot down. But in this case again, a soviet era SAM battery (Surface to Air missile array) was involved.

Lets be clear, there have been no recorded cases of a jet being downed by merely machine gun fire or RPGs in the modern era.

As a fellow Nigerian, we both know our people dont have a strong maintenance culture, which makes mechanical failure even more plausible..

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by heendrix(m): 7:48pm On Apr 02, 2021
Tonalphs:
I may be wrong o. please I won't mind being enlightened.
is there a way a neutral group like the church can actually acquire a fighter jet and sophisticated weapon for our military in a way that it gets to the hand of these military guys? cos I'm convinced that this is a religious fight and Muslims support this jihad directly and indirectly.
telling our southern bros to resign from the military is like handing over Nigeria into the hands of these jihadist.
cos if Christians don't do anything, they won't even see their big churches to worship when Nigeria is turned into Somalia and Afghanistan.
Anyway, what do I know.
we keep praying in this country forgetting that God is not a magician.
Rip to the dead.

The solution is christians actively engaging in politics
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by History555: 7:49pm On Apr 02, 2021
madridsta007:


Flight Lieutenant John Abolarinwa and Flight Lieutenant Ebiakpo Chapele.

Who shared the flight plan and the mission intelligence with Boko Haram?

By the time Southern Nigeria wake up from their political correctness, it would be too late. Certainly too late.

You can say that again. Fulani attack community, southern gov goes on sympathy visit. Fulani are attacked by community, southern gov calls in police and military to deal with community

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Funflipper: 7:52pm On Apr 02, 2021
marvin906:





You really are highly misinformed

How is he misinformed?
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by vioment: 7:53pm On Apr 02, 2021
Harrisonwo:



incompetence breeds incompetence.

very soon,we will be tired of writing RIP for fallen soldiers here with the way things are going except drastic steps are taken



Na last strength we dey use talk am now sef.

The thing dun tire person already.


We dey pray for all our gallant men and women at home and abroad. May their days of life and good health be longer.
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Guide777(m): 7:53pm On Apr 02, 2021
Lai Mohammed should just offer apology to Goodluck Jonathan..

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Mavrick2012: 7:54pm On Apr 02, 2021
hakeem4:
How do we know it’s boko haram. It could be isis in the Middle East
Alhaji Akeemu, leave that thing.
The buhari you guys voted is totally clueless abeg

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by donem: 7:55pm On Apr 02, 2021
pocohantas:

Accept my condolence...
May their souls rest in peace.
Thank U Ma, Amen.
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by lawalmovichhhh: 7:55pm On Apr 02, 2021
LIKE PLAY LIKE PLAY...DIS COUNTRY WILL BE WORST THAN SOMALIA. ... south west oo...up west oo...north north oo....dis people will shake nigeria
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Idiko1: 7:56pm On Apr 02, 2021
kingthreat:
De-weaponize the terrorists. Let them be unable to have anti-aircraft artillery. If they can do this, the military should begin a combined ruthless assault against the terrorists .

Do you mean all these times, Nigerian army had been playing softball with Boko Haram? Nigerian armed forces is simple a replica of Nigerian society where ethnic bias runs amok.

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by nedekid: 7:57pm On Apr 02, 2021
marvin906:



The Tucanos you called slower is designed for coin war..
Su is designed for air combat not ground attack

Hmm, are you sure you are knowledgeable about military aircrafts?
Anyway. Google "su25 frogfoot" to be better informed.

Tukanos are turbo props ie propeller aircrafts invariably slower. The Nigeria airforce alfajet shot down was a turbo jet powered trainer or light attack platform, hence faster than the tukano.
Imagine they shot down a jet aircraft, what then will be the fate of a propeller plane?
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by History555: 7:58pm On Apr 02, 2021
kingthreat:


Shut up. The military is a united brotherhood consisting of soldiers of all tribes. In a war, you win and lose. This is one of the losses, Nigerian army will rise again. While cowards will keep ranting.

United brotherhood that eats the hazard allowance for soldiers
United brotherhood that does not inform family members of the death of loved ones
United brotherhood that eats the gratuity and pensions of soldiers
United brotherhood that eats the insurance policy of dead soldiers
United brotherhood that eats the disability entitlements of disabled soldiers

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by misterjosh(m): 7:58pm On Apr 02, 2021
Boko is now in the business of shooting down fighter jets... Sh!t just got messier.

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Farid24224(m): 7:59pm On Apr 02, 2021
UnabashedIPOB:


May GOD give you enough brain cells to reason!

Gosh!! Just go and grow up dawg..
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Nobody: 7:59pm On Apr 02, 2021
eejo:
This is what happens when you are using F 7 in 2021. Shame on Obansanjo who cancel F I6 Jet fighters planes from Germany after coming into power. late Sani Abacha saw the need to upgrade our Air force but his Death stop everything. Nigeria should call in Russian Air force for help against these criminals.

What stopped Abacha from using his stolen money to buy F16 jet? Obasanjo met $5.5 billion in reserve and a huge debt with high infrastructure dilapidation and low morale military and police. The Israeli mercenaries that dealt with Boko Haram before 2015 election did not need F16. Why do you need F16 for a Guerrilla warfare ? They are just using Nigeria to do business. This is the major reason Buhari didn't want to change the Service Chiefs. Negotiations have to start afresh again. The foreign countries are part of these problems.

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Idiko1: 7:59pm On Apr 02, 2021
Resurrection212:
grin cheesy what pain me most was southern taxpayer money they are just wasting nothing more. Go to Nigeria military theater room full of Abokis that have nothing in upstair operating system.

Nigerian armed forces are ethnically biased groups. I have no atom of sympathy for Nigeria.

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by tutudesz: 8:00pm On Apr 02, 2021
poseidon12:


Arrest him for giving the government a heads up? Maybe the government should have done something with the information.
Making a Statement is different from give information, never gave Government the needed information about the location of the bandits
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by heendrix(m): 8:01pm On Apr 02, 2021
Mrtaye:


Oh no but why was it flying so low hmmm or maybe the signal was jammed and that made the jet lose military signal and hence swayed dangerously into enemy territory at a low altitude

whatever happens, there were not supposed to fly that low
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Nobody: 8:02pm On Apr 02, 2021
nedekid:


Hmm, are you sure you are knowledgeable about military aircrafts?
Anyway. Google "su25 frogfoot" to be better informed.

Tukanos are turbo props ie propeller aircrafts invariably slower. The Nigeria airforce alfajet shot down was a turbo jet powered trainer or light attack platform, hence faster than the tukano.
Imagine they shot down a jet aircraft, what then will be the fate of a propeller plane?


The problem here is not the class of military aircrafts
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Foolishbuhari: 8:02pm On Apr 02, 2021
nograv:


They were merely filming it and attempting to shoot it down, which unless they had surface to air missiles would have been unsuccessful. As they were filming the plane suffered mechanical failure.

The Taliban who managed to oust advanced soviet forces mainly managed to shot down hind helicopters and not jets. They were armed with shoulder fired surface to air missiles supplied by the CIA.

Al-shabab managed to knock out helicopters but never jet fighters with the use of RPGs.

As a kid I loved military technology so I am well versed in military history.

This sort of propaganda has form. Muath Safi Yousef al-Kasasbeh a Jordanian pilot whose plane crashed over the then islamic state was claimed by Isis. Again they had footage, but analysis showed the plane suffered mechanical failure.

The only successful downing of a advanced jet by a native insurgent army was in the former Yugoslavia, where an advanced F117A stealth jet was shot down. But in this case again, a soviet era SAM battery (Surface to Air missile array) was involved.

Lets be clear, there have been no recorded cases of a jet being downed by merely machine gun fire or RPGs in the modern era.

As a fellow Nigerian, we both know our people dont have a strong maintenance culture, which makes mechanical failure even more plausible..

And the jet had to have a mechanical function capable of downing it at that very moment BH were filming and shooting at it right? I guess the mechanical fault also caused the plane to burst into flames mid air.

An RPG doesn't have the capacity to down a fighter jet but an anti aircraft gun can score a lucky shot with a low flying jet. Which begs the question, why were they flying low?

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Idiko1: 8:03pm On Apr 02, 2021
karkel:
When will restructure this all this nonsense will have to stop

You are one of the people real Nigerians should avoid. The issue of Nigeria has gone beyond restructure. It is now into disintegration. I do not care if Nigeria morphed into 200 countries.

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by vioment: 8:06pm On Apr 02, 2021
heendrix:


Nice idea but these terrorist plant mine on the groud which would make it difficult to succeed on a ground operation




NA has to be able to adjust to changes and surprises.


The strategy am referring to, is that NA will hold their line at the perimeter of the interested location. The drones will do the intelligence and agitating of the criminals, and depending on cooperative decision, they can decide to drop some mean knockouts on them. Any escapee will be caught by NA in the 1st layer, then mopol in the 2nd layer, and regular ekelebe in the 3rd layer.


If you have high and low drones, you will use low to agitate them to be firing at you or be making rash decisions, that way they give away their location or just start moving, but high flying one will be strictly for Intel purposes.



Oga Obj bought satellites those years, I no know if na audio satellite or an incompetent one.


We need to use all the advantages in our tool box.

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Idiko1: 8:07pm On Apr 02, 2021
Thetruthshallse:
It shall never be well with the whole of Muslim northern nigeria. So shall it be. Bunch of terrorist the whole lot of them.

Please have your priorities straight. It shall be well for Muslim Northern Nigeria but the so-called southern Nigeria that aided the plight of northern region of Nigeria. All southerners who had supported northern region of Nigeria in anything must see no good in their sorry lives.

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by anigbajumo(m): 8:08pm On Apr 02, 2021
Mrtaye:


Oh no but why was it flying so low hmmm or maybe the signal was jammed and that made the jet lose military signal and hence swayed dangerously into enemy territory at a low altitude

Exactly my thought, ordinary AK 47 can bring down most fighter jets only if it's flying at low altitude, something was definitely wrong for BH terrorist to use RPG to execute that mission meanwhile RPG is not effective at a very long range so I don't understand how is that possible if not that the fighter jets looses signal .
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by just2endowed: 8:08pm On Apr 02, 2021
eejo:
This is what happens when you are using F 7 in 2021. Shame on Obansanjo who cancel F I6 Jet fighters planes from Germany after coming into power. late Sani Abacha saw the need to upgrade our Air force but his Death stop everything. Nigeria should call in Russian Air force for help against these criminals.

I was wondering how a missile could bring down a fighter jet. Is it that the fighter jet doesn't have defense mechanism to alert the pilot of incoming missiles? What kind of jet do we have in sky self

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Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by nograv: 8:08pm On Apr 02, 2021
Foolishbuhari:


And the jet had to have a mechanical function capable of downing it at that very moment BH were filming and shooting at it right? I guess the mechanical fault also caused the plane to burst into flames mid air.

An RPG doesn't have the capacity to down a fighter jet but an anti aircraft gun can score a lucky shot with a low flying jet. Which begs the question, why were they flying low?

Look I am losing patience with you. I gave you the example of the exact same scenario witha Jordanian plane thatwas downed over Syria.

An anti aircraft gun could score a lucky shot, but it is very very unlikely. So much so, nevermind how low a given plane was flying it has never been recorded in the modern era.

Please make up your own mind. In truth given I care little for the North and would rather see the South break away to form a Republic of Southern Nigeria. I couldnt care less what those savages get up to up there anyway.
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Idiko1: 8:10pm On Apr 02, 2021
Brushstrokes20:
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn it!

Nigeria urgently needs a sane, SOUND and competent leader asap!


No, Nigeria needs total and unconditional disintegration.
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by marvin906(m): 8:10pm On Apr 02, 2021
nedekid:


Hmm, are you sure you are knowledgeable about military aircrafts?
Anyway. Google "su25 frogfoot" to be better informed.

Tukanos are turbo props ie propeller aircrafts invariably slower. The Nigeria airforce alfajet shot down was a turbo jet powered trainer or light attack platform, hence faster than the tukano.
Imagine they shot down a jet aircraft, what then will be the fate of a propeller plane?




I don't think you understand the situation on ground...
In no scenario is it possible for an rpg hit an alpha on high speed..
What I can see happening here is incompetence on the pilot side or malfunction of the jet to come as low for an rpg to hit..
What is your definition of low..
A tucano is slow does not mean is a sit duck for an rpg
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Light78: 8:10pm On Apr 02, 2021
heendrix:


whatever happens, there were not supposed to fly that low

Why are you people saying they were flying so low?

They were not. RPG are locked on its target when fired into the air. That pic you saw was take off pic.
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by marvin906(m): 8:12pm On Apr 02, 2021
Funflipper:


How is he misinformed?



Nigeria is the second largest owner of ucav in Africa or West Africa one of those..
Well the point I was trying to make is this the military has enough ucav..
With the wing long coming is getting stronger
Re: Boko Haram: We Shot Down Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet & Killed Pilots by Foolishbuhari: 8:13pm On Apr 02, 2021
nograv:


Look I am losing patience with you. I gave you the example of the exact same scenario witha Jordanian plane thatwas downed over Syria.

An anti aircraft gun could score a lucky shot, but it is very very unlikely. So much so, nevermind how low a given plane was flying it has never been recorded in the modern era.

Please make up your own mind. In truth given I care little for the North and would rather see the South break away to form a Republic of Southern Nigeria. I couldnt care less what those savages get up to up there anyway.


I'm the one losing patience with you mate but let us leave it at that. Have a nice evening

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