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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Nobody: 6:51pm On Apr 14, 2021
Adelaide2:


Agreed. But it says Yoruba will do better earlier. Not that it would not have problems at all. Yoruba better forget Kwara, otherwise they will go to war with the North and will likely lose.
Una go just dey talk rubbish. Kwara state is a creation of the FGN.

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Adelaide2: 6:52pm On Apr 14, 2021
Akudaisi:
forget about land boundaries which is what is confusing you,if we go our separate ways,for example Igbos excluding the ones in Cross River,Delta and Rivers State,let's assume those go with Nigeria,we will still have access to the sea because our River runs directly to the Atlantic ocean which is how others got the sea too,no one has the sea so once you have direct access to the sea you can use it,I wish someone with more vast knowledge on this matter can lecture you well

No one has the sea? You obviously don't know your maritime laws. The owner of the land adjacent to the sea owns the sea up to several 10s if not 100s, of nautical miles outwards. That aside, the points where the rivers you are going to be dredging run into the ocean belongs to non Igbos. They may not give permission to you.

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by notym2chektym: 6:55pm On Apr 14, 2021
the northern prediction Sha
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Christistruth00: 7:00pm On Apr 14, 2021
Akudaisi:
forget about land boundaries which is what is confusing you,if we go our separate ways,for example Igbos excluding the ones in Cross River,Delta and Rivers State,let's assume those go with Nigeria,we will still have access to the sea because our River runs directly to the Atlantic ocean which is how others got the sea too,no one has the sea so once you have direct access to the sea you can use it,I wish someone with more vast knowledge on this matter can lecture you well

With all humility

If you start off a Country by forgetting about Land boundaries you will start off with South Sudan type Civil War because the boundaries you forgot to define may belong to others.

You need to define your borders for the sake of Peace.

What happened in South Sudan was that the 2 largest ethnic groups didn’t prioritise defining their own borders till after they got independence from Sudan.

Then everything broke loose when the Ethnic groups wanted to take possession of their ancestral homelands they were both claiming the Oil rich areas.

Even when the matter was settled in favour of the Ethnic groups sharing Oil revenues another dispute broke out over Cattle and grazing lands

It reached a point where one ethnic group wanted to wipe out another one to solve the crisis once and for all

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Akudaisi: 7:03pm On Apr 14, 2021
Adelaide2:


No one has the sea? You obviously don't know your maritime laws. The owner of the land adjacent to the sea owns the sea up to several 10s if not 100s, of nautical miles outwards. That aside, the points where the rivers you are going to be dredging run into the ocean belongs to non Igbos. They may not give permission to you.
when the dredging starts they can stop us if they are able

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Adelaide2: 7:04pm On Apr 14, 2021
Christistruth00:


With all humility

If you start off a Country by forgetting about Land boundaries you will start off with South Sudan type Civil War because the boundaries you forgot to define may belong to others.

You need to define your borders for the sake of Peace.

Please tell him again. Too many small boys here.���

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Adelaide2: 7:06pm On Apr 14, 2021
Akudaisi:
when the dredging starts they can stop us if they are able

What would you do if they disagree? Go to war? You are very funny. They will likely disagree especially if you do not use diplomacy to make them see economic reasons/benefits for them.

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Veqtor: 7:09pm On Apr 14, 2021
Yea. Let d disintegration happen first. Igbos will cross dat bridge wen d tym comes.

Freedom first!

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Adelaide2: 7:11pm On Apr 14, 2021
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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Adelaide2: 7:12pm On Apr 14, 2021
DubaiLandLord:
Una go just dey talk rubbish. Kwara state is a creation of the FGN.

We know that. But it has come to stay. It will take war to reverse it.
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by t6(m): 7:12pm On Apr 14, 2021
Brexxit:
We in the Niger delta republic will take over 100% control of our oil wealth.
Making us the richest african nation on earth.

Minimum wage will be around 200k.
Free healthcare and education.
Free transportation services.


Give us our Niger delta republic now!! grin
Why not attempt to comprehend the prediction properly before submitting your opinion. Why not ponder on the quagmire which may ensue after your demand for independence?
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Adelaide2: 7:13pm On Apr 14, 2021
t6:

Why not attempt to comprehend the prediction properly before submitting your opinion. Why not ponder on the quagmire which may ensue after your demand for independence?

You dey mind am. Typical hot blooded Nigerian.���
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Akudaisi: 7:15pm On Apr 14, 2021
Adelaide2:


What would you do if they disagree? Go to war? You are very funny. They will likely disagree especially if you do not use diplomacy to make them see economic reasons/benefits for them.
https://www.nairaland.com/2791771/trip-proposed-seaport-site-abia

No one can stop us taking goods through this part way bro,I know you don't like Igbo and is always against us but at least be logical for once

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Christistruth00: 7:26pm On Apr 14, 2021
Akudaisi:
https://www.nairaland.com/2791771/trip-proposed-seaport-site-abia

No one can stop us taking goods through this part way bro,I know you don't like Igbo and is always against us but at least be logical for once


The Arochukwu could have reached the Coast in a single day if they had been forward thinking

But they seemed more focused and interested in maintaining their Hegemony and Monopoly of business in the Igbo territory

But the worst part was that the Arochukwu prevented the Igbo groups that would have naturally rmigrated to the coast from doing so because they were determined to hold onto their business monopoly


Even when the British wanted to open Igboland up to the. Coast the Arochukwu went ahead and fought them in a War.
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Akudaisi: 7:32pm On Apr 14, 2021
Christistruth00:



The Arochukwu could have reached the Coast in a single day if they had been forward thinking

But they seemed more focused and interested in maintaining their Hegemony and Monopoly of business in the Igbo territory

But the worst part was that the Arochukwu prevented the Igbo groups that would have naturally rmigrated to the coast from doing so because they were determined to hold onto their business monopoly

true,those places weren't important to them aside moving out slaves, anyway it's just a vast thick forest area, anyway the only thing is that is going to cost billlons of dollars to make this project happen

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Adelaide2: 7:32pm On Apr 14, 2021
Akudaisi:
https://www.nairaland.com/2791771/trip-proposed-seaport-site-abia

No one can stop us taking goods through this part way bro,I know you don't like Igbo and is always against us but at least be logical for once

I am an Igbo from Abia. Abum onye Igbo. Maka odi mma ikwu ezi okwu. You can draw a line on the map. But you know it's not as easy as that. Wike has told you he is not Igbo. Millions of Niger Deltans agree with him. You go fight war taya.

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Christistruth00: 7:43pm On Apr 14, 2021
Akudaisi:
true,those places weren't important to them aside moving out slaves, anyway it's just a vast thick forest area, anyway the only thing is that is going to cost billlons of dollars to make this project happen

Even if it was a vast thick forest some Igbo hunters and fishermen would have explored it found few settlements or even just farms and staked a claim on at least that part of the Coast even if it was only Few miles long.

The long Juju Myth was used by Arochukwu to Scare a lot of Igbo groups that would have reached the Coast naturally from getting there,
Just look at the map there was only one days journey between Arochukwu and the Coast and under normal circumstances some Igbo hunters and fishermen would have reached the Coast.

Aromire Was a Fisherman but Lagos Island still belongs to his Family today because he used to fish in the area and farm pepper on it.
Ikorodu was first settled by hunters

If the Arochukwu had not deliberately blocked Igbos access to the Coast some Igbos would have had settled on Isolated areas of the Coast and they would have been able to state a claim to it.

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by engrchykae(m): 7:43pm On Apr 14, 2021
Akudaisi:
abeg Azumini river is 25 Nautical miles to Atlantic ocean,Sea laws gives Igbos direct access to the sea,they are similar Rivers in Igbo land that can be dredge to give us many access to the sea
oguta for instance
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by donproject2(m): 7:54pm On Apr 14, 2021
Akudaisi:
Abeg Igbos have access to sea so be calming down and South South and Niger Deltaisn't going to a country

And where is that?
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by awgumayor: 8:00pm On Apr 14, 2021
OKOATA:
Bro I wanna ask you a question since you are a Niger Deltan, please why don't you guys just break up this nation, I am sure if you take over the oil those demon sucking northern/fulanis can go thier way but you choose to let them keep exploiting you. Why do you guys choose to earn peanuts while some northerners milk you dry, I am sure if you can initiate this breakup south south will be an amazing country, you have all the ammunitions down and your militants too, what's stopping you guys from being free from these leeches hosting on you, using your money to sponsor terrorism up and down, why are you guys just looking? I am a Yoruba by the way.
A rare question from a yorubaman. This is a question those fish brains will never answer even in a million year.

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by duro4chang(m): 8:06pm On Apr 14, 2021
Adelaide2:


Agreed. But it says Yoruba will do better earlier. Not that it would not have problems at all. Yoruba better forget Kwara, otherwise they will go to war with the North and will likely lose.
I am from kwara south. We will join our kith and kin in the south west. Kwara north may join arewa but later they will regret it because they will experience neglect.

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by bobowaja(m): 8:07pm On Apr 14, 2021
thebosstrevor1:
No place in Nigeria is developed suddenly they think they will develop when they breakup.

Lagos before it was Nigeria had access to the sea but nothing to show except engaging in slavery business
Lol... Slavery business? You definitely lack history cheesy

I will be responsible for your little education today.

Check here https://www.nairaland.com/4144976/lagos-1898before-nigeria-not-oil

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by omoharry(f): 8:08pm On Apr 14, 2021
Brexxit:
We in the Niger delta republic will take over 100% control of our oil wealth.
Making us the richest african nation on earth.

Minimum wage will be around 200k.
Free healthcare and education.
Free transportation services.


Give us our Niger delta republic now!! grin
Nop. The Niger Delta will struggle to maintain peace due to their oil but Delta state most especially will be another South Sudan .The three ethnic group will be at one another’s neck over who get what in the oil rich Delta .
it will result to a bloody unending crisis becos of their greedy leaders and lazy youth .

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by Toosure70: 8:09pm On Apr 14, 2021
Woe unto the world. No peace everywhere.
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by 77star: 8:11pm On Apr 14, 2021
ok
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by ken6488(m): 8:12pm On Apr 14, 2021
Adelaide2:


Read the prediction for south south���
Prediction from some haters
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by ken6488(m): 8:13pm On Apr 14, 2021
OKOATA:
Bro I wanna ask you a question since you are a Niger Deltan, please why don't you guys just break up this nation, I am sure if you take over the oil those demon sucking northern/fulanis can go thier way but you choose to let them keep exploiting you. Why do you guys choose to earn peanuts while some northerners milk you dry, I am sure if you can initiate this breakup south south will be an amazing country, you have all the ammunitions down and your militants too, what's stopping you guys from being free from these leeches hosting on you, using your money to sponsor terrorism up and down, why are you guys just looking? I am a Yoruba by the way.
Why have Yoruba and igbo not broken up
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by ken6488(m): 8:14pm On Apr 14, 2021
Amumaigwe:


Which oil? The one that the world is gradually snubbing. Wake up and start thinking. That will be the only means of escaping the almost certain poverty.
Don't be deceived oil is just one of the resources here
Don't forget we have alot of access to the ocean

It is not about oil

Niger delta republic will survive with her resources
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by LegendHero(m): 8:15pm On Apr 14, 2021
Oshigun:


Stop talking about what you're ignorant of i.e Yoruba culture and the reality of how they have always behaved. Yorubas are deemed , arguably, the most religiously tolerant people on Earth.

All this MURIC and CAN issues are imported 'demo' behaviour because of the divisive state of affairs in Nigeria currently.

In a nation Yorubas control homogenously 100% , with no external influence in play, we will eat up the likes of Ishtaq Akintola and make him, without financial and vocal support from his radical Northern Moslem brethren, revert to the original setting that necessitate all Yorubas be Yoruba omoluabis before religion, creed or sectional affiliation.

Go and worry about your Igbo peeps who discriminate to hamlet level and have always done so long before the 61 years Nigeria has been an independent sovereign nation.

The disunity of Igbos and their penchant for discriminating against everything and everyone will be the real challenge for Biafra. You will likely subjugate and kill each other in the early years of Biafra where a naturally clannish people attempt to gain control over others who are different because of religion, creed, caste, gender etal.

I was really about to quote the guy using the exact same analogy you used here but when I scrolled down the page I see you already did justice for that. Superb analysis bro.

The influence of the other chronically bigoted tribes in Nigeria is what rubbed on the Yorubas and that created the likes of MURIC and some other few cracks we are seeing here and there.

Infact some of the very minute cracks we are seeing now is due to the Islamization mirror people see Buhari and Northerners with and that itself create some tension within the Yoruba religious divide.

Removing the influence of the religiously bigoted Igbo and Hausa/Fulani will be a blessing to the Yorubas because we have almost 50/50 balanced religious divide which will act as equilibrium for any people or group that want to go astray.

Lastly, the Yorubas see religion as more of spiritual path to the supreme being instead of a total way of life. Hence I can go to church to seek God as a Muslim. This somehow remove the hold of fanatism from religion and create a union of people with religious tolerance.

I can confidently say the Yorubas are one the top 2 ethnic group in the world with the highest level of religious tolerance especially considering the religious demographics. A feat that deserve to be studied in citadel of learning across the world.

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Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by ken6488(m): 8:16pm On Apr 14, 2021
Adelaide2:


There will be war over sea access between Igbos and South South. South East don't have access to sea except if they convince Ikwerres and Opobos to join the Igbo country. That's why the post says "unquestioned access".
Which is likely impossible
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by ken6488(m): 8:17pm On Apr 14, 2021
horsepower102:


My Guy I 100% support Niger delta republic. But where I started scratching my head was when you said oil wealth and being the richest african country.

Are you just waking up from coma? Dont you see what is happing to oil in the future? Even Saudi Arabia is panicking because they see the hand writing on the wall and you are here waiting for oil. I already feel sorry for your republic if thats how you guys think.
We have other resources other than oil

Japan doesn't have oil they still survived
Re: Man Predicts What Happens To New Countries If Nigeria Breaks Up by NigeriaIsZOO: 8:17pm On Apr 14, 2021
Adelaide2:
As seen on Facebook

"Here is my prediction for the different components of Nigeria if it breaks up. Only four countries are likely to emerge.

1. The Yoruba will start off much easier than others. The Yoruba have some of the aces (relatively homogenous, access to sea, relatively organized socio-politico-economic system, educated human resources) to start surviving quickly.

2. The Igbo have all that the Yoruba have, except for unquestioned access to sea. But they will suffer seriously for the first couple of years, due to the obvious dislocation of their investments all over Nigeria. There will be chaos due to competition and lack of centralized leadership.. But they will bounce back and become very strong. They will catch up with the Yoruba at some point.

3. The South South will descend into seemingly unending inter ethnic chaos over language, culture, resource allocation, as well as the geographical dislocation (compare location of Cross River to Edo) of their new country.

4. The North will continue life almost as usual (religious problem and insecurity, and subjugation of minorities). They will get poorer over time. But many are already so poor that it really does not matter anymore. As long as the non Muslims don't give any problem, the North will not suffer more than it is doing now. They have the ample land for agriculture. They will adjust to survive.

Note that these are predictions, not prophesies. Good luck.����"

The author of this echoed my exact sentiments. His predictions are very likely scenario to play out once Nigeria divides. However, I see the Akwa-Cross having their country. They have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing a country with the core Niger Delta but everything to lose.

The present day Rivers, Bayelsa and southern Delta will be a flash point of unending crises and chaos. It will be a free for all fight between Ijaw, Itshekiri and Uhrobo in Warri and environ.

Another fight will occur in Gelegele between Ijaw and Bini. Then the battle royale will take place in P.H between Ijaw and Ikwerre which will culminate in Ijaws invading P.H and taking it hostage.

What makes this clash inevitable is the fact that the areas groomed monsters like Tompolo, Ateke Tom, Asari dokubo, and Wike among others. These monsters don't know what is diplomacy or fair play but rather they believe that they can have whatever they want through violence. The Ijaws will have a field day harrasing everyone and that's why the Akwa-Cross will rather stay away. P.H will still be the capital but Ikwerres and Ijaws will treat the others with disdain.

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