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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:28am On Apr 26, 2021
I am hearing doctor bailly is about to get a long term contract. angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 11:39am On Apr 26, 2021
KingAlabi:
[s]So we have conceded the 3rd least goals in the EPL, just like last season.

Not impressive though, but wow-ing!! cheesy[/s]

Wow woowwww wowwwwwww!

Another cup victory for ole!!

He won the, " fraudiola didn't defeat me" title earlier this season. He also clinched the prestigious ucl esque, "I haven't lost away in the epl this season"..

Let's not forget the, "67points achieved with less game to spare" cup title he won.

Now another title? Ole is a genius

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 12:04pm On Apr 26, 2021
Joezinho:


Wow woowwww wowwwwwww!

Another cup victory for ole!!

He won the, " fraudiola didn't defeat me" title earlier this season. He also clinched the prestigious ucl esque, "I haven't lost away in the epl this season" season..

Let's not forget the, "67points achieved with less game to spare" cup title he won.

Now another title? Ole is a genius
Ok, if you say so.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:52pm On Apr 26, 2021
Android17:


Chelsea were supposed to beat Liverpool, Arsenal U21s, Tottenham whilst United were supposed to beat Southampton in the finals stop bringing up irrelevant details. Revisionism? Try outright lying that Benitez used fringe players in the league. For context, Liverpool were on 50 pts at week 32 whilst 4th placed Everton were on 54. Everton ended the season on 61 to Liverpool's 58. It is clear that there was a bigger incentive to chase for the 4th spot than hope in a lifetime to beat that AC Milan team. So throw that junk info somewhere else. By the way, 1-0 away win against a heavily rotated side (9 changes) is now a clobbering? lol

How were Chelsea supposed to beat Liverpool? Were Chelsea also supposed to beat Fergie’s Man Utd over 2 legs in the semifinal or you think Chelsea didn’t go through hell to get into the final?

Anytime Jose wins, people always say he’s supposed to win. I bet he was also expected to win CL with Porto or Inter. The revisionism in this place is hilarious. Mourinho wasn’t supposed to succeed in England. The media hounded him ever since his first presser when they thought he said he was the special one.


Every victory Chelsea got in 2004/5 was earned by sweats and blood.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:14pm On Apr 26, 2021
CITEH:

The way you people brandish figures eh. Almost €900m on which players? Lol

I had to quote you, cos this figure shock me.

Please make your research before replying.

Actually, he’s spent more than $1 billion in Man City according to transfermarkt.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 2:04pm On Apr 26, 2021
Joezinho:


Wow woowwww wowwwwwww!

Another cup victory for ole!!

He won the, " fraudiola didn't defeat me" title earlier this season. He also clinched the prestigious ucl esque, "I haven't lost away in the epl this season" season..

Let's not forget the, "67points achieved with less game to spare" cup title he won.

Now another title? Ole is a genius
Funny how City and Chelsea who've conceded fewer than we have aren't saying anything about this useless stat given that City have the title on lock and are going for the CL,as are Chelsea who are also in a cup Final.

It is only Olesexuals who dig up these meaningless shīts to make it look like he is half decent,after nearly 3 seasons in charge.

It is only Progress Political Party that picks these nonsensical irrelevancies out of obscurity to make noise with.

Lol.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 2:07pm On Apr 26, 2021
patrickmuf:
Hehehe it's something like:

Ole! Progress!!!

Ole! Progress!!!

Ole! Progress!!!

Every morning before we post on this thread,we chant this our slogan, since we are no longer concerned about winning trophies and contending for championships.

Clubs of timber and caliber are reaching major finals and winning even the ones reserved for reserve teams, our own oga is telling us trophies do not represent peogress.

Tufiakwa

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 2:32pm On Apr 26, 2021
Hmmmn. Bayern don carry Nagelsmann. They wan carry UpperMikano too.
It's like German teams were made to serve Bayern.

They should rename that league to The Bayern Munich League

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:51pm On Apr 26, 2021
Leyqute:


Good that we agree that money is the reason that Bayern is at the top of the food chain.

The problem with the revenue sharing formula is that your league standing 4 years ago will affect how much you get for next season.

So if a newly promoted team battling relegation last season rejuvenates itself and gets into top 4 this season (3 seasons- division 2, relegation fight, top 4) , they won’t get as much pie next season as another team that finished in Europa league qual position for the same period.

This system favors the top top team too much and gives the other teams little power to compete with them or dream to.

Bayern is at the top of this pyramid; they always get top bar (cos their last 5 seasons they were winners of the league) and this puts them in a position to exploit other teams.

RB Leipzig has had tremendous success for the last couple of season. But watch how Bayern, cos they’re the richest by a million miles, poach their top defender, and in due time, their coach.

Has there been any doubt that money is the reason? I told you that from the first post and how Bayern makes its money is in the video

raumdeuter:


Yes its Bayerns 9th succesive title

Bayern is the richest team in the league and money is directly related to results. When you have teams who can match Bayerns finances you will see competition
There are no recognized competitors for a long time because they do not have Bayerns money
Other teams in the league have money problems which Bayern does not have


If you are wondering how Bayern got so rich, its also in that video
I am attaching an image I saw on reddit about the money shared in Bundesliga TV and shows Bayern got 1.4M more than Dortmund the 2nd team
Do you really think if Dortmund is given the Bayern share and Bayern given the Dortmund share, i.e Dortmund get 72.6M and Bayern get 71.2M suddenly things will be better?

The difference between Bayern at the top and Paderborn at the bottom is 45M, What is the difference between the EPL top earner and bottom earner?

When Leipzig establish themselves as regular top 4 team they will get as much from the pie
The bulk of Bayern earnings are from commercials and the video you posted already shows how its earned, or do you want Bayern to do promotion in Asia, America and give the money to others?

Give suggestions on how this should be done.

Chelsea already poached Leipzig's top striker and best player called Werner making them weak, Liverpool poached Naby Keita, and about to poach Konate making them weaker No outrage here from you.
So if Bayern does nothing, these teams will still become weak.
Bayern has not touched a Dortmund player since 2016 yet in that time, they have lost Miki, Auba, Dembele and Pulisic becoming weaker and now fighting to make top 4. Soon your team might take Sancho another team takes Haaland and at the end of the day you will still blame Bayern

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:56pm On Apr 26, 2021
Leyqute:


Called it @ramdeuter

Where did Leipzig get Naggelsman from? Did they not poach him from Hoffenheim?

Abi Leipzig is allowed to poach players and coaches but Bayern must get theirs from the maternity wards?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:58pm On Apr 26, 2021
Illimitable:


Actually, he’s spent more than $1 billion in Man City according to transfermarkt.

Less than 24 hrs ago

Illimitable:
So dollars is the European currency now? Fraud!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:58pm On Apr 26, 2021
Lana1:
Hmmmn. Bayern don carry Nagelsmann. They wan carry UpperMikano too.
It's like German teams were made to serve Bayern.

They should rename that league to The Bayern Munich League

Where were these tears when Chelsea carried their best player Werner?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:05pm On Apr 26, 2021
Leyqute:

Good that we agree that money is the reason that Bayern is at the top of the food chain.

The problem with the revenue sharing formula is that your league standing 4 years ago will affect how much you get for next season.

So if a newly promoted team battling relegation last season rejuvenates itself and gets into top 4 this season (3 seasons- division 2, relegation fight, top 4) , they won’t get as much pie next season as another team that finished in Europa league qual position for the same period.


This system favors the top top team too much and gives the other teams little power to compete with them or dream to.

Bayern is at the top of this pyramid; they always get top bar (cos their last 5 seasons they were winners of the league) and this puts them in a position to exploit other teams. .

According to latest reports, Bayern made 771M in 2020 as total revenue as attached below

They made only 72M from Bundesliga TV

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13451691_bulitv_jpegb2631315700246e726b5f8a4be570444

If Bayern made $0 from Bundesliga TV, they will still be the 3rd richest club in Europe or worst case lose 3rd marginally to Manchester United

So if they are telling you that Bundesliga TV money is what is making Bayern richer, they are lying to you

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:38pm On Apr 26, 2021
raumdeuter:


Where did Leipzig get Naggelsman from? Did they not poach him from Hoffenheim?

Abi Leipzig is allowed to poach players and coaches but Bayern must get theirs from the maternity wards?

It’s not poaching when what you snatched from others isn’t deemed valuable.

Leipzig did all the hardwork required to turn Nagelsmann and Upamecano into who they are today. Bayern just swooped in to cart away the finished product. It’s not a new thing. The problem is why aren’t other teams able to compete on that level wirh Bayern?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:44pm On Apr 26, 2021
raumdeuter:


Less than 24 hrs ago


“According to transfermarkt” - that’s the disclaimer.

In your own case, you blatantly lied you paid more than 30M for Neuer but the lie detector machine found out you were lying.

Neuer was €18m. You were able to find $30M evejdence from Transfermarkt but it wasn’t over 30M like you claimed.

Lies Lies Lies all over your comments.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:07pm On Apr 26, 2021
Leyqute:


It’s not poaching when what you snatched from others isn’t deemed valuable.

Leipzig did all the hardwork required to turn Nagelsmann and Upamecano into who they are today. Bayern just swooped in to cart away the finished product. It’s not a new thing. The problem is why aren’t other teams able to compete on that level wirh Bayern?

Naggelsman was already a top coach at Hoffenheim before Leipzig swooped on him. He took Hoffenheim to top 4 before Leipzig poached him
So why is Leipzig allowed by you to poach but Bayern should give birth to their players and coaches?
Its not different from how Chelsea swooped on Werner

Why arent other teams able to compete? MONEY once again MOney.

I am sure you will ask again so I can proactively answer MONEY

What is your solution for them to get money on the level of Bayern?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:08pm On Apr 26, 2021
Illimitable:


“According to transfermarkt” - that’s the disclaimer.

In your own case, you blatantly lied you paid more than 30M for Neuer but the lie detector machine found out you were lying.

Neuer was €18m. You were able to find $30M evejdence from Transfermarkt but it wasn’t over 30M like you claimed.

Lies Lies Lies all over your comments.

How much is that and is it over 30M?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 4:13pm On Apr 26, 2021
Leyqute:


It’s not poaching when what you snatched from others isn’t deemed valuable.

Leipzig did all the hardwork required to turn Nagelsmann and Upamecano into who they are today. Bayern just swooped in to cart away the finished product. It’s not a new thing. The problem is why aren’t other teams able to compete on that level wirh Bayern?

Leipzig didn't do any hard work. They also poached. The hard work was done at Hoffenheim where he as an unknown manager transformed a relegation contender into a Champions League qualifier overnight.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:14pm On Apr 26, 2021
Are the teams forced to sell to Bayern? Those Bundesliga clubs are actually stupid, they can sell those players to EPL teams for even more but they rather sell to Bayern. Why they choose to strengthen a team that is already ahead of them and in the same league calls for concern.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 4:22pm On Apr 26, 2021
patrickmuf:
Are the teams forced to sell to Bayern? Those Bundesliga clubs are actually stupid, they can sell those players to EPL teams for even more but they rather sell to Bayern. Why they choose to strengthen a team that is already ahead of them and in the same league calls for concern.

Exactly. If a man keeps giving you his best farm produce while he himself struggles to feed is it your fault? The people who should be questioned are those running the other clubs who have capitulated on a permanent basis, and those running the league who could have looked for ways to make the playing field more balanced.

Those in charge at Bayansh are just making the best possible use of the winning cards they have been dealt. They have a group of competent, experienced, and influential old boys who have sustained order and progress there for decades now.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:26pm On Apr 26, 2021
raumdeuter:


How much is that and is it over 30M?

It’s fake!

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 4:37pm On Apr 26, 2021
Dr bailly signs a new contract.

But the years on his contract deal were not officially indicated, I complained about this a while ago, is that the new normal at united?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 4:40pm On Apr 26, 2021
I dropped a stat of we been the third least team in term of goals conceded, what was my intention?

At a time, before half way of the season, we were the ** 4th or even 5th team for most goals conceded. **

What happened?, what changed?, do we need we still need a defender in the summer?.

A healthy discussion, but trust olephobes to do the needful.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:44pm On Apr 26, 2021
KingAlabi:
I dropped a stat of we been the third least team in term of goals conceded, what was my intention?

At a time, before half way of the season, we were the ** 4th or even 5th team for most goals conceded. **

What happened?, what changed?, do we need we still need a defender in the summer?.

A healthy discussion, but trust olephobes to do the needful.

This team kept the most clean sheets in 2018 thus winning De Gea a golden glove.

How do you go from the best defence to 3rd after £150m was spent on defence and still think there’s progress?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 4:46pm On Apr 26, 2021
raumdeuter:


Where were these tears when Chelsea carried their best player Werner?
You'll soon go and thief Haaland from Dortmund. cheesy cheesy
All the farmers in that league live to serve their master Bayern
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:47pm On Apr 26, 2021
raumdeuter:


Naggelsman was already a top coach at Hoffenheim before Leipzig swooped on him. He took Hoffenheim to top 4 before Leipzig poached him
So why is Leipzig allowed by you to poach but Bayern should give birth to their players and coaches?
Its not different from how Chelsea swooped on Werner

Why arent other teams able to compete? MONEY once again MOney.

I am sure you will ask again so I can proactively answer MONEY

What is your solution for them to get money on the level of Bayern?

It's clear that money is the problem. My first post already addressed that.

But you'd agree that Bayern has been the only one doing the poaching at the highest level in the BuLi, really. If RB Leipzig hadn't signed Nagelsmann, and he hadn't done well there, Bayern wouldn't have gone for him. Leipzig's hardwork was having faith in Julian and then going for him when he was still unproven. Nagelsmann joined RBL in 2019, Bayern sacked Kovac months later. IF they actually did the hard work, they'd have sacked Kovac earlier and gone for him. Instead they put Flick in place, waiting for the perfect time to significantly weaken Leipzig.

The truth is, in the BuLi, dog kill dog, and Bayern is the master dog, the one at the head of the food chain.

I don't have a solution to this monopoly, but it's good to see you agree that it's a monopoly. I guess things were still a bit competitive around the time the 50+1 rule was introduced. A decade after Bayern became a PLC they've amassed so much wealth that no one else can compete with them.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:51pm On Apr 26, 2021
patrickmuf:
Are the teams forced to sell to Bayern? Those Bundesliga clubs are actually stupid, they can sell those players to EPL teams for even more but they rather sell to Bayern. Why they choose to strengthen a team that is already ahead of them and in the same league calls for concern.

It's now too late to talk about this. Bayern has grown in stature and wealth and are very attractive to their players.

Can you stop Grealish from joining his boyhood club (assume it's Man Utd) if he's offered peanuts as salary at Aston Villa and Villa need the money badly?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:58pm On Apr 26, 2021
raumdeuter:


Has there been any doubt that money is the reason? I told you that from the first post and how Bayern makes its money is in the video


I am attaching an image I saw on reddit about the money shared in Bundesliga TV and shows Bayern got 1.4M more than Dortmund the 2nd team
Do you really think if Dortmund is given the Bayern share and Bayern given the Dortmund share, i.e Dortmund get 72.6M and Bayern get 71.2M suddenly things will be better?

The difference between Bayern at the top and Paderborn at the bottom is 45M, What is the difference between the EPL top earner and bottom earner?

When Leipzig establish themselves as regular top 4 team they will get as much from the pie
The bulk of Bayern earnings are from commercials and the video you posted already shows how its earned, or do you want Bayern to do promotion in Asia, America and give the money to others?

Give suggestions on how this should be done.

Chelsea already poached Leipzig's top striker and best player called Werner making them weak, Liverpool poached Naby Keita, and about to poach Konate making them weaker No outrage here from you.
So if Bayern does nothing, these teams will still become weak.
Bayern has not touched a Dortmund player since 2016 yet in that time, they have lost Miki, Auba, Dembele and Pulisic becoming weaker and now fighting to make top 4. Soon your team might take Sancho another team takes Haaland and at the end of the day you will still blame Bayern

45m is not small money to clubs in BuLi. How much did Bayern get Sane from City? By how much will Sane improve a top team in the BuLi?

Bundesliga television distribution is determined by four principles -- two different five-year-coefficient rankings, a 20-year-coefficient ranking and the number of minutes U-23 players that were schooled regionally have played in a season.

The four principles have awarded Bayern Munich with 540 points, closely followed by Borussia Dortmund with 509 points. Meanwhile, Fortuna have just 250 points from the four categories together. It is a complicated system that makes it difficult, but not impossible, for smaller clubs to rise up the ranking.

In comparison, the English Premier League receives £1.7 billion (€1.9 billion) in television revenue per season under its current deal. This season every club was assured a base sum of £79.4 million (€91.5 million) plus bonuses in the number of games shown on television and place money.

As a result, Liverpool, despite finishing second, received £149.5 million (€172.6 million) in television revenue -- more than double than what Bayern earned this year. Meanwhile, last-placed Huddersfield Town still received £93.6 million, plus parachute money following the club's relegation to Championship.

The gap between the top Bundesliga sides and the bottom teams is smaller than in England on a first glance only. The gap between Bayern and Fortuna is €32.9 million. The gap between ManCity and Huddersfield in the meantime is £54.4 million (€62 million).

In terms of percentage, however, the actual income gap is much more decisive in the Bundesliga. Fortuna receive only 39% of what Bayern earned this season, meanwhile, in England, it is 63% for the bottom club.

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/manuelveth/2019/05/13/tv-distribution-bundesliga-needs-to-learn-from-english-premier-league

This system, over the years, has made Bayern stronger and stronger to the point that they are now unchallengeable. They are at the top of the food chain. Even with the new revenue sharing system, it will take a long time for other teams to be able to challenge Bayern.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:00pm On Apr 26, 2021
KingAlabi:
I dropped a stat of we been the third least team in term of goals conceded, what was my intention?

At a time, before half way of the season, we were the ** 4th or even 5th team for most goals conceded. **

What happened?, what changed?, do we need we still need a defender in the summer?.

A healthy discussion, but trust olephobes to do the needful.

grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:02pm On Apr 26, 2021
Leyqute:

This system, over the years, has made Bayern stronger and stronger to the point that they are now unchallengeable. They are at the top of the food chain. Even with the new revenue sharing system, it will take a long time for other teams to be able to challenge Bayern.

Meanwhile, some people consider Pep winning Bundesliga three times in a row as an achievement.

Something Chris Wilder will win with his eyes closed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 5:07pm On Apr 26, 2021
Illimitable:


This team kept the most clean sheets in 2018 thus winning De Gea a golden glove.

How do you go from the best defence to 3rd after £150m was spent on defence and still think there’s progress?

As expected cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:09pm On Apr 26, 2021
KingAlabi:


As expected cheesy

It’s the fact.

The truth is only bitter to Olesexuals.

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