michlins:
I think it's Yoruba people. The hausas are basically migrants into the present day Nigeria and some part of Igbo like Onitsha and Nnewi are extension of Benin kingdom who are to be considered Yoruba too. Nsukka people are from Igala

Nsukka people are not from Igala . Igala people invaded Nsukka . I seriously wonder why a group of people would invade their fellow tribesmen . Nnewi are not Benin or Yoruba either . Stop peddling lies . I'm even disappointed to learn that you're from Nsukka . Apparently , you don't know what's going on .

Xenowerk4000:

Nsukka people are not from Igala . Igala people invaded Nsukka . I seriously wonder why a group of people would invade their fellow tribesmen . Nnewi are not Benin or Yoruba either . Stop peddling lies . I'm even disappointed to learn that you're from Nsukka . Apparently , you don't know what's going on .

he is not from Nsukka,he is from igala in Kogi state,they are many on Facebook
Ayegba Abdullah is their oga,he feeds them wrong informations that Every tribe/ethnic in Nigeria sprouts from them(Igala),they have even gone as far as claiming Kenya and Ghana

agadez007:
he is not Nsukka,he is igala from Kogi state,they are many on Facebook
Ayegba Abdullah is their oga,he feeds them wrong informations that Every tribe/ethnic in Nigeria sprout from them(Igala),they have even gone as far as claiming Kenya and Ghana

As in eeh !! Those people can spread lies and distort history . Look at one of his disciples below...

gregyboy:



Benin’s migrated from the niger river to thier present location like almost 2,000yr ago

which ethnic group in Nigeria is older than that?

leksite120:
There must be an evidence that backs it. it won't be educative without the evidence to the claim.. I can also decide to claim anything

The Nri tribe is dated before the Hausa and Yoruba lands.

Neville660:

The Nri tribe is dated before the Hausa and Yoruba lands.

And which country is that

Xenowerk4000:

As in eeh !! Those people can spread lies and distort history . Look at what one of his disciples below...

They are all drunk

leksite120:
And which country is that

Igbo, in Enugu.
I believe is dated from the 3rd and 4thcentury BC. They found artefacts from there and did some radiation dating on them, which gave them the dates.

Neville660:

Igbo, in Enugu.
I believe is dated from the 3rd and 4thcentury BC. They found artefacts from there and did some radiation dating on them, which gave them the dates.

Lol, is that what gave u d assurance that they came before other tribes?

leksite120:
Lol, is that what gave u d assurance that they came before other tribes?

Yep.

It’s Yoruba. You can tell that the language transcends. Yoruba, then Esan... Bini is a mixture of Yoruba royalty and Esan aborigines. This Benin and some Yoruba groups spread into the south. Especially Eastern Yoruba groups whose accents are similar to what has come out of Niger-Delta.

Igala is a long separated Yoruba group. They mixed with Benin a lot to form some groups in the Niger Delta and East. Igala spread from Edo, to the East and into the middle belt. Also, some groups from Cameroon also mixed with these groups to form most of the East. With pockets of pure Yoruba groups scattered and mixed too. Yoruba though is the most homogenous of Southern and middlebelt Groups.

The Yoruba sounding words in Igbo language definitely came from Igala and Ancient Bini.

Neville660:

The Nri tribe is dated before the Hausa and Yoruba lands.

Yoruba DNA is oldest. It has been proven scientifically. Followed by Esan... then Igbo. So, that tells you that those two groups birthed a lot of tribes, which are probably related villages in Southern Nigeria.

baby124:
[s]It’s Yoruba. You can tell that the language transcends. Yoruba, then Esan... Bini is a mixture of Yoruba royalty and Esan aborigines. This Benin and some Yoruba groups spread into the south. Especially Eastern Yoruba groups whose accents are similar to what has come out of Niger-Delta.

Igala is a long separated Yoruba group. They mixed with Benin a lot to form some groups in the Niger Delta and East. Igala spread from Edo, to the East and into the middle belt. Also, some groups from Cameroon also mixed with these groups to form most of the East. With pockets of pure Yoruba groups scattered and mixed too. Yoruba though is the most homogenous of Southern and middlebelt Groups.

The Yoruba sounding words in Igbo language definitely came from Igala and Ancient Bini.[/s]

Land grabbers... always telling us co.ck and bull stories...with no proof to soothe their stupid ego
Show me proof that Benin is a mixture of Yoruba and esan...
Besides ur claim that there are Yoruba words in Igbo language and Benin is very fictitious...it shows ur level of literacy.
U suppose think b4 u type this thing...in English Language...there are some words that are originally French but have been incorporated into English... only a dumbskull like u will say the English originate from the French

Archaeological findings say Igbo is the oldest.

fieryy:


Lool, so you decided to even answer hehehe

Alabosi

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illicit:
The Ekitis are aborigines

Ekiti, Ijesha, Ijebu ,Owu (Obasanjo's clan) , Ilaje , Akoko, are all aboriginal ancient Igbo that Oduduwa met in the Land.

Christistruth00:


Ekiti, Ijesha, Ijebu ,Owu (Obasanjo's clan) , Ilaje , Akoko, are all aboriginal ancient Igbo that Oduduwa met in the Land.

To some extent I concur

Reason

It is Ugbo not Igbo

illicit:


To some extent I concur

Reason

It is Ugbo not Igbo

It is Igbo but the Ife and Ijesha pronounced it Ugbo
For example some call Igbomina as Ugbomina but the Oyo standard Yoruba call them Igbomina.

Christistruth00:


It is Igbo but the Ife and Ijesha pronounced it Ugbo
For example some call Igbomina as Ugbomina but the Oyo standard Yoruba call them Igbomina.

Ugbo is a present day kingdom in Ondo state

Christistruth00:


It is Igbo but the Ife and Ijesha pronounced it Ugbo
For example some call Igbomina as Ugbomina but the Oyo standard Yoruba call them Igbomina.

Oyo dialect is not the only standard Yoruba because, every other dialects are also standard. Instead, kindly assert that the dialect remained the model for communication with non Yorubas.

Olu317:
Oyo dialect is not the only standard Yoruba because, every other dialects are also standard. Instead, kindly assert that the dialect remained the model for communication with non Yorubas.

I concur

Sammy07:


I concur

Yes Sir. And it is noteworthy to see good thread of this magnitude with juxtaposition of which group is the oldest in Nigeria.

Furthermore, Yoruba ethnic group is not the oldest in Nigeria or West Africa with glaring evidence of the Calvaria found in a burial site at Iwo Eleru. The Calvaria found does not not support Yoruba ethnic group because the Radiocarbon analysis of the charcoal found in the immediate vicinity of the burial was discovered to in an age estimated to be 11,200±200BP (~13ka calibrated).

While the Yoruba Calendar span from 3rd of the following year . According to the Niyi Alaran, who helped documented the oral account, mentioned that tje Gregorian year 2020 AD is the 10,062 year of Yoruba's knowledge of Calendar period. Obviously, the discovered bone does not match up with Yoruba's Calvaria.

More information on the Iwo Eleru bones, can be found on Google with screaming headline as , ‘ The Later Stone Age Calvaria from Iwo Eleru,Nigeria: Morphology.'

Wahala everywhere. We all came from Ghana mbok

michlins:
I think it's Yoruba people. The hausas are basically migrants into the present day Nigeria and some part of Igbo like Onitsha and Nnewi are extension of Benin kingdom who are to be considered Yoruba too. Nsukka people are from Igala

Lagos is bini and igbo land

Ijebus are from bini

https://www.edoworld.net/How_Ancient_Igbos_CoFounded_The_Obaship_Of_Lagos.html
https://dailypost.ng/2017/05/03/lagos-not-belong-yorubas-oba-akiolu/

michlins:
do you know the popular saying

"Eha Alumona ati Igala". Do you know what it means?

This is history and not sentimental stuff. We need to set the record straight and not twist it to suit our narrative

Yoruba muslims boy. Shut up!

bigfrancis21:


@bold...yes of course I agree and I have never ever doubted that some Nsukkas have Igala ancestry. I spent 6 years in Nsukka land and once in a while you'll come across some Nsukka people that physically look just different from the typical range of Igbo physical looks. Yes, some Igala people settled in Nsukka land, just as some Bini people settled around the fringes of Western Igboland, however, this does not change the narrative and history of the host town. We all come from somewhere but your identity today is what identifies you, not what you were 300 years ago.

Igboland in the past seemed to have accommodated substantial migrants and runaways from other tribes versus the opposite and what has not been studied yet is why was this so? What seemed attractive about the Igbo-speaking area that many fleeing members from other tribes headed east whenever they were escaping danger or persecution? Descendants of Igala, Yoruba (Odiani in Delta state), Bini/Esan etc. can all be found in Igboland and one thing is generally common among these migrants - they were fleeing the anger or persecution of a certain ruling king. Did the migrating forefathers find the Igbo republican system of government (plus the greater freedom that comes with it) more attractive vs the more restrictive system of a central ruler-ship that they were fleeing from? Or were there more arable soil and agricultural opportunities in this area (which would make them economic migrants, no different from Nigerians migrating to the west for better economic opportunities) that they were hoping to benefit from? Whatever the reason for migration was, these migrants were most often welcome, given lands to settle in, the male migrants most likely married females from their host community and their next generation were definitely native or bilingual speakers of the language of their host community. With time, these first and second generation migrants sought to blend in socially and culturally into their host community and having a strong grasp of the language of their host community was key to getting recognized as members of 'son of the soil' (this can be likened to how most migrants applying for citizenship in several foreign countries - Germany, US, France, Spain etc., have to demonstrate fluency in the country's language to be accorded citizenship, but being able to speak the country's official language should never stop the migrant from speaking their own native language or passing it on to their children). It is clear to us all that ancient Igboland never participated in land or language expansionist regimes, thus anyone who adopted Igbo as their native language did so willingly or out of social adaptation. Igbo was hardly ever forced down on others to be spoken. With time, the migrant population grew to be recognized as a village of theirs, often taking on the 'umuxyz' prefix in harmony with their host community. Whenever a few migrants or in the hundreds migrated across linguistic borders, they always had to blend into the language and culture of their host community, and never the reverse.

I came across an article on the Nsukka Asadu history and how the Igala influence in Nsukka may have been blown out of proportion than necessary.

Speaking of cultural exchange, there's actually more Igbo influence on the Igala than there is Igala on the Igbo but the former is hardly ever spoken about.

You stated that there are people who migrated into Igbo land from other places for various reasons in the past, why then the hostility towards their descendants whenever they tell the history of their forefathers. These people are not saying they are not Igbos but the mere fact that they mention that their forebears originally came from somewhere else elicits resentment and hate from those who want to create the falsehood and fallacy of pure Igbo race akin to Nazi aryan race.

USA is celebrated as a nation of migrants who came together to build the world's greatest nation. America celebrates the history of their diverse people, the fact that the Irish Americans identify with their Irish root and celebrate st. Patrick's day doesn't make them less Americans, same as Jewish and other Americans.

The history of a place is greatly enhanced and more exciting by the history of her various constituencies. Benin history is greatly enhanced and exciting because of the various branches that cut across Nigeria and beyond. The interaction with various ethnic groups over centuries greatly enhanced Benin history. The Benin people don't suffer inferiority complex or become uncomfortable when a fellow Benin person traces the origin of their forefathers to Akure or Anioma like the Obasekis.

Igbo people must acknowledge, embrace and celebrate your diverse history and stop calling fellow Igbos like yourselves settlers. This is one reason people are not too comfortable with the Biafra agitation.

The Benin, Igala and other ethnic branches of Igbo history should be celebrated and shouldn't be seen as a threat to the Biafra master Igbo race project.

samuk:


You stated that there are people who migrated into Igbo land from other places for various reasons in the past, why then the hostility towards their descendants whenever they tell the history of their forefathers. These people are not saying they are not Igbos but the mere fact that they mention that their forebears originally came from somewhere else elicits resentment and hate from those who want to create the falsehood and fallacy of pure Igbo race akin to Nazi aryan race.

USA is celebrated as a nation of migrants who came together to build the world's greatest nation. America celebrates the history of their diverse people, the fact that the Irish Americans identify with their Irish root and celebrate st. Patrick's day doesn't make them less Americans, same as Jewish and other Americans.

The history of a place is greatly enhanced and more exciting by the history of her various constituencies. Benin history is greatly enhanced and exciting because of the various branches that cut across Nigeria and beyond. The interaction with various ethnic groups over centuries greatly enhanced Benin history. The Benin people don't suffer inferiority complex or become uncomfortable when a fellow Benin person traces the origin of their forefathers to Akure or Anioma like the Obasekis.

Igbo people must acknowledge, embrace and celebrate your diverse history and stop calling fellow Igbos like yourselves settlers. This is one reason people are not too comfortable with the Biafra agitation.

The Benin, Igala and other ethnic branches of Igbo history should be celebrated and shouldn't be seen as a threat to the Biafra master Igbo race project.

Totally untrue. Are you aware that just 100 years ago, the Irish, French, Jews etc were not considered ‘white’ in America but only the English people? But today they are all classified as white people? Even North Africans from Egypt, Morocco etc are considered white in America? Irish and French descendants in America know that they are migrants to the land and do not drag the entire America along in some division tirade as some of these migrants in Igboland do. An Ika person of Bini ancestry should not drag the entire Ika along in his division charade. Similar to an Igala migrant in Anambra.

My point is, cherish your history but your identity today matters.

bigfrancis21:


Totally untrue. Are you aware that just 100 years ago, the Irish, French, Jews etc were not considered ‘white’ in America but only the English people? But today they are all classified as white people? Even North Africans from Egypt, Morocco etc are considered white in America? Irish and French descendants in America know that they are migrants to the land and do not drag the entire America along in some division tirade as some of these migrants in Igboland do. An Ika person of Bini ancestry should not drag the entire Ika along in his division charade. Similar to an Igala migrant in Anambra.

My point is, cherish your history but your identity today matters.

Who amongst those that initially considered themselves whites in America are native Americans? None. Apart from the native red Indians, everyone else is an immigrant in America. The English are not natives to America, so they can't claim to be more Americans than others, the only reason they appropriated America to themselves in the past was due to the power and influence they had as British empire. Today, the empire is no more and all America immigrants of European descent are considered equal. When the blacks come of age, they will enjoy the same rights and privileges as white Americans.

Today, America is a melting pot of all nationalities and only the minority native Americans can claim to be aborigines, no one else. Those that believe that their ancestors are aborigines in Igbo land can stake their claims in their respective villages and towns and also respect the rights of those towns and villages which have different histories of origin.

The guy Michlin has simply tell the history of his Nssuka subgroup the way he knows it and none of you that have disagreed with his history have stated that you are from the same town or village, some of you are even from a different state and arguing with the guy about his history. He even challenged you guys to come to the Palace of his traditional ruler for verification.

I believe your last point is exactly what these guys tracing their historical pasts are doing, I haven't heard any of them denied being Igbo or their Igbo identity.

fieryy:

Lool, so you decided to even answer hehehe
Alabosi

are you Yoruba?

kayfra:
We all know the most prosperous tribe with excellence in arts and science. The tribe with the most global influence and outreach.


Awon set Oduduwa

yes we know, even the Ooni of Ife knows the oldest which is the Igbos and they all are one and the same both the traditional Yoruba Igbos , Igbos of South East, Igbos of South South and Igbos of middle Belt. They are one and the same, inwhich they are ancient as old as time even the Ooni of Ife knows this.

Osagyefo98:



Your forefathers from nsukka are Igalas and Benins and not Nnewi or Onitsha by any means. Reverse migration is not history.


Even someone from nsukka who has no origin will come here to tell igbos where they are from.


m
Remain with that your history in nsukka and Enugu state precisely.


Such hogwash is not needed in anambra state.

Why is it so difficult for u guys to know that this michilin of a person is a yoruba and not from nsukka?