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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:53pm On May 08, 2021
raumdeuter:
Within that 9months they still made top 4, made CL final
Within that 9 months, they were in 14th - hurtling towards relegation. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:58pm On May 08, 2021
Rooney avoids relegation. shocked

Maybe Daniel Levy should hire him. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:05pm On May 08, 2021
Illimitable:
LMAO!

Spurs hadn’t won an away league game in almost a year under Poch.

How the fück were they going to finish top 4 that season Poch was sacked? How?
I just tire...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 3:07pm On May 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
Which one be outburst?

You said Mou didn't improve Spurs, I have countered your argument after you quoted me and for context I brought in Ole who was part of the attached statement I replied to just in any case you want to use Poch peak performance at Spurs and you're talking about outburst...If you've been boxed, just admit and stop throwing words around.
Oga proof how mourinho improved Spurs.

No dey shalaye.

Ole didn't improve Manchester United, I agree.

How did mou improve spur?. undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:07pm On May 08, 2021
raumdeuter:
Dortmund to win
Atletico to win
City to win
Milan to win

Those are my preferred results for this weekend
You don't want those light weights in the UCL? I'm talking about Eintracht Frankfurt...

Milan? You don't want Juve in the UCL?

City is understandable...

Atletico? Is it because you think Messi might win the Balon d'or if he wins La Liga and Copa?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:08pm On May 08, 2021
KingAlabi:
Oga proof how mourinho improved Spurs.

No dey shalaye.

Ole didn't improve Manchester United, I agree.

How did mou improve spur?. undecided
Abeg I can't help you maybe if I know where you come from I can translate in your dialect...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:10pm On May 08, 2021
Illimitable:
Rooney avoids relegation. shocked

Maybe Daniel Levy should hire him. grin
Their form has been atrocious and I read that Wednesday were penalized with point deduction else Derby deserves to go down...

Congrats to them all the same.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 3:11pm On May 08, 2021
raumdeuter:
Within that 9months they still made top 4, made CL final
cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 3:13pm On May 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
Abeg I can't help you maybe if I know where you come from I can translate in your dialect...
From top 4 to scraping for Europa league place, couldn't even get past skrndjdnkejsjsnsns in the Yoruba league, but he improved Spurs.

Na wa!!!!
I am not even putting the season he took over poch into consideration.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 3:17pm On May 08, 2021
Whichever way you want to consider it, Mourinho's and Ryan's time at Spur so far ain't palatable.

They won last week with same Bale scoring hatrick or so, people were out saying he's better.

Today, he lost to Leeds who his predecessor Mourinho comfortably brushed aside.

Whichever way you want to look at it, as you're backing one, you're exposing the other side. Just know that Spur are shit.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kingofcasting(m): 3:25pm On May 08, 2021
huh I think people should go and look at Leeds current form and the clubs they've faced recently. Am i missing something here?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:26pm On May 08, 2021
adebayo201:
Whichever way you want to consider it, Mourinho's and Ryan's time at Spur so far ain't palatable.

They won last week with same Bale scoring hatrick or so, people were out saying he's better.

Today, he lost to Leeds who his predecessor Mourinho comfortably brushed aside.

Whichever way you want to look at it, as you're backing one, you're exposing the other side. Just know that Spur are shit.
Poch had almost 6 years to build this team though. It was his tactics, every player was the player he bought and he had imparted his mentality into them.

In those 6 years, Poch won nothing. Zero trophies!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:29pm On May 08, 2021
KingAlabi:
From top 4 to scraping for Europa league place, couldn't even get past skrndjdnkejsjsnsns in the Yoruba league, but he improved Spurs.

Na wa!!!!
I am not even putting the season he took over pep into consideration.
When Mourinho took over, we're Spurs in the top 4? No, they were 14 but he guided them to the Europa League position, is that not improvement?

This season, before he was sacked, were Spurs out of the UCL race? No!

You are talking about the UEL, ain't it a competition Mou is not supposed to give a damn about?

It's laughable, he wins it with us, you guys rubbish the trophy and now he losses out of the trophy, you want to drag him...Funny!

If you are going to use Poch's previous season to say Mourinho didn't improve Spurs, then that attached Pic is wrong because Ole has not improved Manchester United. He didn't guide us to a top 4 finish when he replaced Mourinho and in his first season, whilst he finished 3rd which isn't better than what Mou achieved, he was knocked out of the UCL in the group stage this season...

Mou finished 2nd with 81pts whilst with us, has Ole equaled or bettered that? No...

Mou won the UEL, has equaled or bettered that? No...

Mou took us past the group stage of the UCL, has Ole bettered that? No...

Mou won the Caraboa cup, has Ole bettered that? No...

If you are saying Mou didn't better Poch after replacing him by using Poch's previous season best, then we have no model for which to judge Mou as he has not had a full season with Spurs because he was still in with a chance to make the top 4 and win the Caraboa cup...

I know you will likely read the above and still argue but this is the most I can do...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:30pm On May 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
Their form has been atrocious and I read that Wednesday were penalized with point deduction else Derby deserves to go down...

Congrats to them all the same.
And Lampard almost got Derby to the Premier League.

Rooney needs intensive coaching lessons from Pochettino. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:35pm On May 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
When Mourinho took over, we're Spurs in the top 4? No, they were 14 but he guided them to the Europa League position, is that not improvement?

This season, before he was sacked, were Spurs out of the UCL race? No!

You are talking about the UEL, ain't it a competition Mou is not supposed to give a damn about?

It's laughable, he wins it with us, you guys rubbish the trophy and now he losses out of the trophy, you want to drag him...Funny!

If you are going to use Poch's previous season to say Mourinho didn't improve Spurs, then that attached Pic is wrong because Ole has not improved Manchester United. He didn't guide us to a top 4 finish when he replaced Mourinho and in his first season, whilst he finished 3rd which isn't better than what Mou achieved, he was knocked out of the UCL in the group stage this season...

Mou finished 2nd with 81pts whilst with us, has Ole equaled or bettered that? No...

Mou won the UEL, has equaled or bettered that? No...

Mou took us past the group stage of the UCL, has Ole bettered that? No...

Mou won the Caraboa cup, has Ole bettered that? No...

If you are saying Mou didn't better Poch after replacing him by using Poch's previous season best, then we have no model for which to judge Mou as he has not had a full season with Spurs because he was still in with a chance to make the top 4 and win the Caraboa cup...

I know you will likely read the above and still argue but this is the most I can do...
So after almost 3 years and almost £300m spent, the PE teacher hasn’t outperformed Mourinho in any progressive metric? cheesy cheesy

Scenes when “Good Ebening” put Ole in the mud in the Europa final.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 3:42pm On May 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
Mou finished 2nd with 81pts whilst with us, has Ole equaled or bettered that? No...

Mou won the UEL, has equaled or bettered that? No...

Mou took us past the group stage of the UCL, has Ole bettered that? No...

Mou won the Caraboa cup, has Ole bettered that? No...
Lol.

Watch how the eternally foolish one will dodge this high jump you have set by running under the bar.

It knows itself.

Even my two month old baby knows Ole is a failure.

She saw his face on the screen the other day and didn't stop crying till we changed the channel.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:46pm On May 08, 2021
hoopLA:
Lol.

Watch how the eternally foolish one will dodge this high jump you have set by running under the bar.

It knows itself.

Even my two month old baby knows Ole is a failure.

She saw his face on the screen the other day and didn't stop crying till we changed the channel.
Just kill me. cheesy grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 3:48pm On May 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
When Mourinho took over, we're Spurs in the top 4? No, they were 14 but he guided them to the Europa League position, is that not improvement?

This season, before he was sacked, were Spurs out of the UCL race? No!

You are talking about the UEL, ain't it a competition Mou is not supposed to give a damn about?

It's laughable, he wins it with us, you guys rubbish the trophy and now he losses out of the trophy, you want to drag him...Funny!

If you are going to use Poch's previous season to say Mourinho didn't improve Spurs, then that attached Pic is wrong because Ole has not improved Manchester United. He didn't guide us to a top 4 finish when he replaced Mourinho and in his first season, whilst he finished 3rd which isn't better than what Mou achieved, he was knocked out of the UCL in the group stage this season...

Mou finished 2nd with 81pts whilst with us, has Ole equaled or bettered that? No...

Mou won the UEL, has equaled or bettered that? No...

Mou took us past the group stage of the UCL, has Ole bettered that? No...

Mou won the Caraboa cup, has Ole bettered that? No...

If you are saying Mou didn't better Poch after replacing him by using Poch's previous season best, then we have no model for which to judge Mou as he has not had a full season with Spurs because he was still in with a chance to make the top 4 and win the Caraboa cup...

I know you will likely read the above and still argue but this is the most I can do...
No need

O.......K
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:58pm On May 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
You don't want those light weights in the UCL? I'm talking about Eintracht Frankfurt...

Milan? You don't want Juve in the UCL?

City is understandable...

Atletico? Is it because you think Messi might win the Balon d'or if he wins La Liga and Copa?
I prefer to see Dortmund in the CL than Wolfsburg
I think Barcelona winning the league can make retain Koeman and that won't be in their long term interest

I want Juve to suffer for that decision to appoint Pirlo
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:01pm On May 08, 2021
Illimitable:
Within that 9 months, they were in 14th - hurtling towards relegation. grin
So was Pep and Ole at the beginning of this season and they are now top 2 in the league
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:03pm On May 08, 2021
raumdeuter:
I prefer to see Dortmund in the CL than Wolfsburg
I think Barcelona winning the league can make retain Koeman and that won't be in their long term interest

I want Juve to suffer for that decision to appoint Pirlo
I didn't see the Juve slump coming.

For the Buli, I think Wolfsburg are stronger than Eintracht Frankfurt, so why are you particular about Wolfsburg?

Koeman is average, I agree...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:09pm On May 08, 2021
raumdeuter:
So was Pep and Ole at the beginning of this season and they are now top 2 in the league
The difference is neither Pep nor Ole hadn’t won an away league game in almost a year.

Neither Pep nor Ole won a miserable 25 points from 24 PL games.

Neither Pep nor Ole had lost the most points from a winning position in a league of 20 teams.

The comparison to Pep/Ole is highly flawed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Roland17(m): 4:16pm On May 08, 2021
@raumdeuter

Hey Dayo, what are your expectations for Nagelsmann when he joins Bayern?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:17pm On May 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
I didn't see the Juve slump coming.

For the Buli, I think Wolfsburg are stronger than Eintracht Frankfurt, so why are you particular about Wolfsburg?

Koeman is average, I agree...
Barcelona are crap lately though. I wonder what happened to La Masia and the bundle of talents they were pushing through about a decade ago.

There are a lot of mediocre players in their roster and the bulk of their best players are 30+. They need a serious overhaul to get back to those glory days.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:26pm On May 08, 2021
Illimitable:
Barcelona are crap lately though. I wonder what happened to La Masia and the bundle of talents they were pushing through about a decade ago.

There are a lot of mediocre players in their roster and the bulk of their best players are 30+. They need a serious overhaul to get back to those glory days.
They're broke if reports are right although I expect them to be active in the market...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 4:26pm On May 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
When Mourinho took over, we're Spurs in the top 4? No, they were 14 but he guided them to the Europa League position, is that not improvement?

This season, before he was sacked, were Spurs out of the UCL race? No!

You are talking about the UEL, ain't it a competition Mou is not supposed to give a damn about?

It's laughable, he wins it with us, you guys rubbish the trophy and now he losses out of the trophy, you want to drag him...Funny!

If you are going to use Poch's previous season to say Mourinho didn't improve Spurs, then that attached Pic is wrong because Ole has not improved Manchester United. He didn't guide us to a top 4 finish when he replaced Mourinho and in his first season, whilst he finished 3rd which isn't better than what Mou achieved, he was knocked out of the UCL in the group stage this season...

Mou finished 2nd with 81pts whilst with us, has Ole equaled or bettered that? No...

Mou won the UEL, has equaled or bettered that? No...

Mou took us past the group stage of the UCL, has Ole bettered that? No...

Mou won the Caraboa cup, has Ole bettered that? No...

If you are saying Mou didn't better Poch after replacing him by using Poch's previous season best, then we have no model for which to judge Mou as he has not had a full season with Spurs because he was still in with a chance to make the top 4 and win the Caraboa cup...

I know you will likely read the above and still argue but this is the most I can do...
kiss kiss
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:27pm On May 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
I didn't see the Juve slump coming.

For the Buli, I think Wolfsburg are stronger than Eintracht Frankfurt, so why are you particular about Wolfsburg?

Koeman is average, I agree...
I just want Dortmund to make top 4.
Frankfurt and Wolfsburg if they make it are likely to lose their key player
Wolfsburg might lose Weghorst, Brekalo Baku and Frankfurt might lose Andre Silva

Moreover Frankfurt has done well recently losing the Europa semis to Chelsea on penalties

Dortmund win effectively makes Bayern champions

Dortmund and Leipzig play the cup final in a few days and I will be supporting Leipzig there so Naggelsman gets a trophy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:28pm On May 08, 2021
Illimitable:
The difference is neither Pep nor Ole hadn’t won an away league game in almost a year.

Neither Pep nor Ole won a miserable 25 points from 24 PL games.

Neither Pep nor Ole had lost the most points from a winning position in a league of 20 teams.

The comparison to Pep/Ole is highly flawed.
Away win makes no difference. It's still 3 points

Spurs made top 4 for many seasons until Mourinho came
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:29pm On May 08, 2021
Roland17:
@ramdeuter

Hey Dayo, what are your expectations for Nagelsmann when he joins Bayern?
Expectations for Bayern doesn't change. Its still a CL win next season
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:32pm On May 08, 2021
raumdeuter:
Away win makes no difference. It's still 3 points

Spurs made top 4 for many seasons until Mourinho came
Spurs were in 14th position when Mourinho arrived. He didn’t meet Spurs in top 4.

And this was a Spurs side that had the same manager for 6 years. It wasn’t as if Poch was still new at the job. He’d had close to 6 years to fine tune the team to its taste and style and yet he plunged them to 14th position without a trophy.

You can’t blame Mourinho for Poch’s failure.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:36pm On May 08, 2021
Illimitable:
Barcelona are crap lately though. I wonder what happened to La Masia and the bundle of talents they were pushing through about a decade ago.

There are a lot of mediocre players in their roster and the bulk of their best players are 30+. They need a serious overhaul to get back to those glory days.
I agree. Barcelona is crap. I saw their lineup vs Madrid in the last el classico and like 8 players don't even deserve to play for Osasuna never mind Barcelona
Minguesa Lenglet Araujo Pedri Braithwaite Trincai Dest
They want to give Messi a last good outing given he has a few yrs left. They should go and sign Neymar
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:37pm On May 08, 2021
raumdeuter:
I agree. Barcelona is crap. I saw their lineup vs Madrid in the last el classico and like 8 players don't even deserve to play for Osasuna never mind Barcelona
Minguesa Lenglet Araujo Pedri Braithwaite Trincai Dest
They want to give Messi a last good outing given he has a few yrs left. They should go and sign Neymar
Neymar just signed a new contract at PSG.

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