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Goshen360:
If the old is the new revealed, and its NOW revealed what then are you going back to the old to pick?

The Old Testament, is the New Testament concealed, and The New Testament, is the Old Testament revealed, and not your 'If the old is the new revealed, and its NOW revealed' quote mining version, that mangled up beyond recognition what I original typed

When you adhere to the two royal laws, it takes care of every other law in Old Testament, hence why the NT is the OT revealed

Going back what particularly in the Old to pick are you talking of?

Goshen360:
Did you forget anything in the old?

This is a dumbarse question. No offence intended

BassReeves:
The Old Testament, is the New Testament concealed, and The New Testament, is the Old Testament revealed, and not your 'If the old is the new revealed, and its NOW revealed' quote mining version, that mangled up beyond recognition what I original typed

When you adhere to the two royal laws, it takes care of every other law in Old Testament, hence why the NT is the OT revealed

Going back what particularly in the Old to pick are you talking of?

This is a dumbarse question. No offence intended

I'm using your own words which is:

The Old Testament, is the New Testament concealed, and The New Testament, is the Old Testament revealed.

Your words above is truth and I agree with it. The point now is, SINCE THE NEW TESTAMENT ALREADY REAVEALED THE OLD TESTAMENT.....what are you still going back to the old testament to do or to pick....this old testament is NOW OR ALREADY REVEALED in the new testament?

Did you forget something or anything in the old? If you like call it dumbarse question it doesn't offend me....the intent was, since the NT already revealed what was hidden in the OT, you're to continue in the REVEALED knowledge not going back to the CONCEALED knowledge. The REVEALED was already done by the Apostles which formed the Apostles teaching or doctrines for us, the church of God in Christ.

Goshen360:
I'm using your own words which is:

The Old Testament, is the New Testament concealed, and The New Testament, is the Old Testament revealed.

You just now are using words verbatim, unlike earlier when you quote mining using my own words out of context and made it present a point of view that isn't compatible with the original quote

Goshen360:
Your words above is truth and I agree with it.

If its truth and you agree with it, then leave as the words as they are and stop reading more into them than whats intended

Goshen360:
The point now is, SINCE THE NEW TESTAMENT ALREADY REAVEALED THE OLD TESTAMENT.....what are you still going back to the old testament to do or to pick....this old testament is NOW OR ALREADY REVEALED in the new testament?

Did you forget something or anything in the old? If you like call it dumbarse question it doesn't offend me....the intent was, since the NT already revealed what was hidden in the OT, you're to continue in the REVEALED knowledge not going back to the CONCEALED knowledge. The REVEALED was already done by the Apostles which formed the Apostles teaching or doctrines for us, the church of God in Christ.

I tell what Goshen360, why don't you just rip out the whole of the Old Testament then, and don't ever from this point on, any further read it, any further make reference to any verse in it, don't do retrospective reading of it.

BassReeves:
You just now are using words verbatim, unlike earlier when you quote mining using my own words out of context and made it present a point of view that isn't compatible with the original quote

If its truth and you agree with it, then leave as the words as they are and stop reading more into them than whats intended


I tell what Goshen360, why don't you just rip out the whole of the Old Testament then, and don't ever from this point on, any further read it, any further make reference to any verse in it, don't do retrospective reading of it.

When you get there you will understand. Nobody is going to rip out the NT from the bible...its there for a reason... To CONCEAL christ and his finished works. Today, Christ and the Apostles already REVEALED what was concealed in the OT....What shall we then do? Go back to the Old or continue from what was revealed?

Christ and Hid finished with is NOW REVEALED in the NT....we continue in that which is revealed. I have no energy to continue telling you same thing over and over again. There're things like rituals in the OT which we don't do today as Christians....those things are Christ concealed in his finished works so now that Christ fulfilled those rituals, its already and now revealed in the NT...what are you going back to do with those rituals? We're not of them that draw back!

Goshen360:
When you get there you will understand.

Where are you going or have gone that you missed road.

The only thing to understand, bro, simply is:
The Old Testament, is the New Testament concealed, and The New Testament, is the Old Testament revealed.

Meaning, as you read the NT, you get to realise that OT concealed the NT, and that the NT reveals the OT when and where the OT concealed the NT

Goshen360:
Nobody is going to rip out the NT from the bible...

Rip out OT, mind you, not 'rip out the NT from the bible'

Goshen360:
its there for a reason... To CONCEAL christ and his finished works.

Luke 2:21-35
'21When the eight days until His circumcision had passed,
He was named Jesus, the name the angel had given Him before He had been conceived.
22And when the time of purification according to the Law of Moses was complete,
His parents brought Him to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord
23(as it is written in the Law of the Lord: “Every firstborn male shall be consecrated to the Lord”
24and to offer the sacrifice specified in the Law of the Lord:
“A pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons.”
25Now there was a man in Jerusalem named Simeon, who was righteous and devout.
He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him.
26The Holy Spirit had revealed to him that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Christ.
27Led by the Spirit, he went into the temple courts.
And when the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for Him what was customary under the Law,
28Simeon took Him in his arms and blessed God, saying:
29“Sovereign Lord, as You have promised,
You now dismiss Your servant in peace.
30For my eyes have seen Your salvation,
31which You have prepared in the sight of all people,
32a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
and for glory to Your people Israel.”
33The Child’s father and mother were amazed at what was spoken about Him.
34Then Simeon blessed them and said to His mother Mary:
“Behold, this Child is appointed to cause
the rise and fall of many in Israel,
and to be a sign that will be spoken against,
35so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed—
and a sword will pierce your soul as well.”'


I feel your assimilation struggle, I sincerely do. Nothing like 'to conceal', as if really hiding anything for real then Psalm 25:14 and Amos 3:7 wouldnt have happened to Simeon

Goshen360:
Today, Christ and the Apostles already REVEALED what was concealed in the OT....What shall we then do? Go back to the Old or continue from what was revealed?

Show me where I've specifically or directly advised you or anyone other poster of such

Goshen360:
Christ and Hid finished with is NOW REVEALED in the NT....we continue in that which is revealed. I have no energy to continue telling you same thing over and over again. There're things like rituals in the OT which we don't do today as Christians....those things are Christ concealed in his finished works so now that Christ fulfilled those rituals, its already and now revealed in the NT...what are you going back to do with those rituals? We're not of them that draw back!

Who the f is talking about doggone rituals in OT. I knew you were confused and so wasting energy arguing over nothing

BassReeves:
Where are you going or have gone that you missed road.

The only thing to understand, bro, simply is:
The Old Testament, is the New Testament concealed, and The New Testament, is the Old Testament revealed.

Meaning, as you read the NT, you get to realise that OT concealed the NT, and that the NT reveals the OT when and where the OT concealed the NT

Rip out OT, mind you, not 'rip out the NT from the bible'

Luke 2:21-35
'21When the eight days until His circumcision had passed,
He was named Jesus, the name the angel had given Him before He had been conceived.
22And when the time of purification according to the Law of Moses was complete,
His parents brought Him to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord
23(as it is written in the Law of the Lord: “Every firstborn male shall be consecrated to the Lord”
24and to offer the sacrifice specified in the Law of the Lord:
“A pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons.”
25Now there was a man in Jerusalem named Simeon, who was righteous and devout.
He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him.
26The Holy Spirit had revealed to him that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Christ.
27Led by the Spirit, he went into the temple courts.
And when the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for Him what was customary under the Law,
28Simeon took Him in his arms and blessed God, saying:
29“Sovereign Lord, as You have promised,
You now dismiss Your servant in peace.
30For my eyes have seen Your salvation,
31which You have prepared in the sight of all people,
32a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
and for glory to Your people Israel.”
33The Child’s father and mother were amazed at what was spoken about Him.
34Then Simeon blessed them and said to His mother Mary:
“Behold, this Child is appointed to cause
the rise and fall of many in Israel,
and to be a sign that will be spoken against,
35so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed—
and a sword will pierce your soul as well.”'


I feel your assimilation struggle, I sincerely do. Nothing like 'to conceal', as if really hiding anything for real then Psalm 25:14 and Amos 3:7 wouldnt have happened to Simeon

Show me where I've specifically or directly advised you or anyone other poster of such

Who the f is talking about doggone rituals in OT. I knew you were confused and so wasting energy arguing over nothing

I'm done talking to you brother. Again, when you get there you will understand. I really don't have energy to argue with people like you on this forum....so I leave you in the hands of the Spirit of truth to teach you. I tried....

Goshen360:
[s]I'm done talking to you brother. Again, when you get there you will understand. I really don't have energy to argue with people like you on this forum....so I leave you in the hands of the Spirit of truth to teach you. I tried.... [/s]

You are not just only arguing with yourself, but also being bleating and barking up the wrong tree. Do you want me to call you on your landline right now, huh?

BassReeves:
You are not just only arguing with yourself, but also being bleating and barking up the wrong tree. Do you want me to call you on your landline right now, huh?

No need sir..
I'm good.

Goshen360:
No need sir..
I'm good.

You shock I have your number

Goshen360:
Grace of God is Christ personified, not a curriculum and by extension everything that Christ had done for us in His finished works.

We can then explore the above and what we then see through scriptures are: everything God had done for us through Christ, this is what the Grace is God is.

Jesus Christ embodies not just the grace of God but also the Truth of God. He declared Himself that He is the Way, the Truth and the Life(grace).

When you make an idol of the grace contained in Him, abandoning the Truth and the Way that He also represents(embodies), you deceive yourselves with unTruths which are not of Him.

BassReeves:
You shock I have your number

Na you sabi....call if you have my number naw... I dey wait for you naw....