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Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali - Politics (3) - Nairaland

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Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by omonnakoda: 9:02am On May 19, 2021
festacman:
Mr. Andy Wabali sweated too much over a minor issue. The truth is even if your parents are Igbo, you still have the right to choose not to be Igbo. However, your choice doesn't change your origin and ancestry.

If language difference is the issue then Ezza people of Ebonyi or Aro people of Abia, for example, can as well not be classified as Igbo.

His argument on distinctiveness in culture is empty because every major Igbo group from Nnewi, Owerri, Ihiala, Afikpo, Bendes, Arochukwu, etc has distinct culture with respect to marriage, burial, festivals, etc. However, there are basic features that show Igbonness in each of these cultures.

Ikwere people are simply Igbo and inspite of unnecessary effort to the contrary, the fact is that many Ikweres know deep down in their hearts that they fundamentally Igbo.
Why not say Igbo people are fundamentally Ikwerre?
The fact that Igbos are bigger today does not tell us history]Today Brazil is bigger than Portugal

What exactly is Igbo people and when did that identity start?
Such an identity did not exist during the slave trade in the same territories as today.
Aros were not identified as Igbos before Nigeria was created. They are a mix of Ibom and Ibo ancestry. They are ruled by Akamkpa kings just like Fulani rule Hausaland
Ikwerre people have been saying they are not igbo before Nigeria gained independence. That is an easily verifiable fact.

The foremost and most published linguist on Igbo language Kay Williamson declared Ikwerre to be a language(NOT DIALECT ) on its own in the same family as Igbo
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nobody: 9:07am On May 19, 2021
omonnakoda:
Why not say Igbo people are fundamentally Ikwerre?
The fact that Igbos are bigger today does not tell us history]Today Brazil is bigger than Portugal

What exactly is Igbo people and when did that identity start?
Such an identity did not exist during the slave trade in the same territories as today.
Aros were not identified as Igbos before Nigeria was created. They are a mix of Ibom and Ibo ancestry. They are ruled by Akamkpa kings just like Fulani rule Hausaland
Ikwerre people have been saying they are not igbo before Nigeria gained independence. That is an easily verifiable fact.

The foremost and most published linguist on Igbo language Kay Williamson declared Ikwerre to be a language(NOT DIALECT ) on its own in the same family as Igbo
They will never listen. Igbo dragging dead horse is becoming legendary. Otherwise good people.
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by omonnakoda: 9:13am On May 19, 2021
Before independence the Ibos sought to impose their Bible on Ikwerre but they rejected it and created their own

There was a Willinks commission in 1957

My question is apart from Ikwerre WHICH OTHER "IBO" group went to the WIllinks commission to agitate for minority rights

How many have commissioned their own bible?
bear in mind this happened BEFORE INDEPENDENCE
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by ariesbull: 9:17am On May 19, 2021
jerseyboy:
There is always an outlier in a sample population. That makes her special in a sense. Take care her.
I have seen two people here in Lagos ..even many Jebu also
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by pek(m): 9:30am On May 19, 2021
jerseyboy:
There is no dispute amonst the Okun that they are Yorubas. In fact there is unanimity. Not so amonst the Ikweres. They will never form enough consensus to be call Igbo or be in Biafra. For how long will a new nation or the Ikweres want to deal with that?
You are obsessed with Biafra that's why you keep mentioning Biafra even when the discuss is not on Biafra. You claimed the Ikweres are not Igbos cause they are found in Rivers State that is south south. Here, you have agreed that the Okuns are Yorubas even though they are in Kogi State which is north central. See how "logical":you sound?
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by omonnakoda: 9:32am On May 19, 2021
pek:
You are obsessed with Biafra that's why you keep mentioning Biafra even when the discuss is not on Biafra. You claimed the Ikweres are not Igbos cause they are found in Rivers State that is south south. Here, you have agreed that the Okuns are Yorubas even though they are in Kogi State which is north central. See how "logical":you sound?
In 1957 the Ikwerre went to the Willink's Commission to seek protection as a minority group.

Why did they do this?
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nobody: 9:40am On May 19, 2021
pek:
You are obsessed with Biafra that's why you keep mentioning Biafra even when the discuss is not on Biafra. You claimed the Ikweres are not Igbos cause they are found in Rivers State that is south south. Here, you have agreed that the Okuns are Yorubas even though they are in Kogi State which is north central. See how "logical":you sound?
I'm not obsessed with Igbos. Go through my posts from years back. I love and respect Igbos. Igbos must come to terms with the opinion of others. Biafra map to Southern minorities first appear as a joke, then an insult, then panic and finally anger.
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by pek(m):
jerseyboy:
I'm not obsessed with Igbos. Go through my posts from years back. I love and respect Igbos. Igbos must come to terms with the opinion of others. Biafra map to Southern minorities first appear as a joke, then an insult, then panic and finally anger.
I thought the topic says Ikwere people are not Igbo. Is there Biafra in either the topic or body? Why then have you been shouting Biafra since? And back to your logic, you didn't say anything about the Okuns. Please, move on and stop this your agenda. It is so obvious.
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by spearman(m): 2:46am On Jun 02, 2021
Akwamkpuruamu:
Tell us about the ancestry or origin of the Ikwerres
Igbo claim they have right to self determination but NigerDelta will have to go n collect the same right from God.
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by omonnakoda: 8:55am On Jun 02, 2021
Nbote:
Very confused ppl. Ur culture and names are all Igbo names even though it is spelt differently but yet U want ppl to believe U are not Igbos. Wabali is Nwabali, They have replaced Nwa with Wa and Umu with Rumu
Igbo names and culture are all Ikwerre names.

Why do you assume Igbos arrived first
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by AntiBMC(m): 9:28am On Jun 02, 2021
Akwamkpuruamu:
Tell us about the ancestry or origin of the Ikwerres
Those ones are one the most shallow people I have ever come across. Very vague in their reasoning, sorry to say. Igbo gladly reject them...abeg. Enough of all this rubbish 'we are not igbo talks'

Left for me, it's to ignore them.
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by omonnakoda: 9:45am On Jun 02, 2021
omonnakoda:
In 1957 the Ikwerre went to the Willink's Commission to seek protection as a minority group.

Why did they do this?
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by umunaija: 10:38am On Jun 02, 2021
gidgiddy:
Im a bit confused here. The same Andy Wabali that said Ikwerres are Igbos in the video below? Or are there two different Andy Wabali?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdkLJoj_SAk&t=894s
You have time to reply people that are very Igbophobic, they divided Igboland and now they are very scared of Igbo unity, the man made it clear that he is an Igbo man in the video. But they will go and bring what he said before in 2020. For your information, if you do referendum in ikwerre today, more 70% will claim Igbo, the remaining 30% when come back to his senses soon. That been said, Igbos don't beg for relationship, even someone from Anambra can say he is not Igbo and you can not force him, is his choice.
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by umunaija: 10:44am On Jun 02, 2021
spearman:
Igbo claim they have right to self determination but NigerDelta will have to go n collect the same right from God.
See nobody is stopping anybody from forming any country, Igbos don't care, we are happy to form a country that is made up of only Igbos, stop all this Igbo this, Igbo that, no true Igbo beg for relationship, you are great people, you can form your country, good luck.
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by umunaija: 10:54am On Jun 02, 2021
jerseyboy:
I'm not obsessed with Igbos. Go through my posts from years back. I love and respect Igbos. Igbos must come to terms with the opinion of others. Biafra map to Southern minorities first appear as a joke, then an insult, then panic and finally anger.
Nobody is mapping anybody into Biafra, if you have children, you will know that you can not even force your children on certain things, talk more of forcing other tribes, real Igbos don't beg for relationship, we are more than happy to form a country that is made up of only Igbos, though any tribe that wants to join is welcome. When the chips are down, you will know who hate you and who don't. No tribe will say that Igbos have ever claim their land, oil, or anything nor have Igbos killed them whether in the east or their land but some people are hell bent on changing narratives, a word is enough for the wise.
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by aribisala0(m): 9:55am On Dec 08, 2021
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nobody: 9:31pm On Mar 31, 2022
jerseyboy:
Igbo ambition in the Niger Delta is becoming a concern as surely Nigeria is breaking-up. Igbo wont let go these insane hallucinations for people's land who are beginning to have more and more HATRED of Igbos for this delusion of a map of that puts WARRI on the map of Biafra.

While on a Mid-West Movement call early May the talk was dominated on raising money to buy weapons to repel an expected Biafra invasion. I noticed it was led by 2 Anioma Bendelites.

When a handful of Ilorin clerics declared themselves Yoruba Fulanis of Northern Nigeria, Yoruba Nation agitators took Kwara out of consideration and set stiff terms as to condition under which they will be allowed into the new nation despite 95% of Kwara Yorubas wanting to be in Oduduwa. Now that's a people with pride. Not so for Igbos.

A majority Yoruba House of Assembly in the first republic voted to allow the Mid-West referendum. Only Yorubas allowed the new region promised minorities in their own region. The agitation for COR Region was just as loud as the Mid-West but an Igbo dominated regional assembly would not even allow a bill to get to the floor. Yorubas have class and honor. Igbos are becoming really scary people.

By the way Anioma recorded the highest percentage in the 1963 Mid-West Referendum with 93% for YES. The never discussed joining the East. Even when Ojukwu capture the Mid-West, he did not annex Anioma into Biafra. When on September 20, 1967 Ojukwu declared The Republic Of Benin, he did not cut Anioma out. Ojukwu obviously is wiser than many Igbo nairalanders.
You are not smart at all. It was not even a majority igbo that stopped the agitation for COR region it was even the Ijaw that stopped it. again Ikwerre are igbo QED there is no doubt and no question about it, so are Ndoki, Asa, Egbema people
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