| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by owobokiri(m): 10:10pm On May 25, 2021 |
Igboid:
Nnaa! That era has passed. We are in a new era.
The era of Igbo nationalism.
Not even UK can keep Ireland against their wish.
If for any reason you wish to annex those minorities, you should know that you would not do that by the pathetic unity begging you lots are currently doing in IPOB  .
You do that by showing them they are not important to us. You work on Igbo Republic, make it so Viable and rich that every body would be banging on our doors to join, like any Mexico state would , if USA gives them option to join now.
Aku n'ebe Okwu.
That's the stage we are on now.
Stop dissipating energy licking minorities shits, they are not that important.
Be content with Igboland. Spend all that Energy in making her a regional economic and military power and everything else will fall in line.
I seriously don't know how you Igbos think.
Seriously, if I were Minorities, I would be wary of you Igbos agenda of including them in Biafra. You lots are simply not well oriented at all. You will make yourselves outcasts before minorities who suspect you of sinister motives and If o nationalists who think you are out to take away Igbo dignity and pride.
You will end up nowhere if you continue like this. Where do you even get this notion that anybody is begging anybody? From what I have read and heard, all that Kanu has said is that if the minorities don't want to join, they're free to go! What's wrong with that? And where did I tell you that I have joined IPOB or BOPI? That I write in support of views expressed by say Kanu which I agree with shouldn't make you ascribe anything to me until I tell you so. You have a horrible understanding of international politics and that's your problem. If you ever find yourself in position of authority in igboland, you will lead the people to the pit. Administratively, you lack ambitions and you are so comfortable with your position that you forget that States are built to feed millions not tens, That is even if you are what you claim to be.. 2 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by Igboid: 10:18pm On May 25, 2021 |
owobokiri:
Where do you even get this notion that anybody is begging anybody? From what I have read and heard, all that Kanu has said is that if the minorities don't want to join, they're free to go! What's wrong with that? And where did I tell you that I have joined IPOB or BOPI? That I write in support of views expressed by say Kanu which I agree with shouldn't make you ascribe anything to me until I tell you so. You have a horrible understanding of international politics and that's your problem. If you ever find yourself in position of authority in igboland, you will lead the people to the pit. Administratively, you lack ambitions and us do comfortable with your position that you forget that States are built to feed millions not tens, That is even if you are what you claim to be.. So how do you intend expanding you so called territories? A people told you they don't want anything to do with you, and you are forcefully dragging them along, begging and licking their shits on one hand and on the other hand forming hard man with intent of annexing them by force. Are you listening to yourself?  You are putting the cart before the horse. You have to first and foremost concentrate on Igboland as we have it today. The Minorities and Biniphilic Igboids are insignificant to us for now . Right now, all that matters is what we have with us,and what we have is very much enough. Stop the Minorities and Biniphilic Igboids distractions, focus on Igboland, when you build it up, economically, industrially and military. You would take everything else you want without firing a shot! They would come and submit them all to you. Common sense!  5 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by owobokiri(m): 10:33pm On May 25, 2021 |
Igboid:
So how do you intend expanding you so called territories?
A people told you they don't want anything to do with you, and you are forcefully dragging them along, begging and licking their shits on one hand and on the other hand forming hard man with intent of annexing them by force. Are you listening to yourself?
You are putting the cart before the horse.
You have to first and foremost concentrate on Igboland as we have it today.
The Minorities and Biniphilic Igboids are insignificant to us for now . Right now, all that matters is what we have with us,and what we have is very much enough.
Stop the Minorities and Biniphilic Igboids distractions, focus on Igboland, when you build it up, economically, industrially and military.
You would take everything else you want without firing a shot! They would come and submit them all to you.
Common sense! I believe that the boundaries of Biafra start and end as it was in 1966! I also believe that if adequate referendum/plebiscite were conducted and certain areas want out, they should be left out! And I think this is also the stand of IPOB, so I agree with them on that! Totally!!! If some laughably ambitious "igboids" want to form their own banana Republics, just to spite the Igbos of the hinterlands, they're free to do so. What I detest is anyone trying to foist boundary arrangements initiated by the Babangidas, the Obasanjos, the Mamnan Nasirs and the Abachas.. My enemies can't define me.. And I don't think that groups that want to join should be chased out because they don't speak igbo. Dokubo and the BLM guys are not insane... That's where I am on this issue at the moment and where I will always be on this issue! You can now try your tricks on someone else.. |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by Igboid: 10:42pm On May 25, 2021 |
owobokiri:
I believe that the boundaries of Biafra start and end as it was in 1966!
I also believe that if adequate referendum/plebiscite were conducted and certain areas want out, they should be left out!
And I think this is also the stand of IPOB, so I agree with them on that! Totally!!!
If some laughably ambitious "igboids" want to form their own banana Republics, just to spite the Igbos of the hinterlands, they're free to do so.
What I detest is anyone trying to foist boundary arrangements initiated by the Babangidas, the Obasanjos, the Mamnan Nasirs and the Abachas.. My enemies can't define me..
And I don't think that groups that want to join should be chased out because they don't speak igbo. Dokubo and the BLM guys are not insane...
That's where I am on this issue at the moment and where I will always be on this issue!
You can now try your tricks on someone else.. Then we are on same page. Limit it to SE and proudly Igbo SS groups for now as founding fathers. Once achieved,open doors for application to join by interested groups we feel have something to offer. Any group we desire that submits application to join would be given our terms and conditions . If they agree to the stipulated conditions, then they become a Biafran province. But for now, let's limit it to founding States of SE and proudly Igbo SS groups. Who in real terms and purposes are good enough to go at it alone. Modify the map to reflect just this group. Any one else who feel left out should send well publicized application. That's how things are done! 7 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by horsepower102: 10:43pm On May 25, 2021 |
owobokiri:
I believe that the boundaries of Biafra start and end as it was in 1966!
I also believe that if adequate referendum/plebiscite were conducted and certain areas want out, they should be left out!
And I think this is also the stand of IPOB, so I agree with them on that! Totally!!!
If some laughably ambitious "igboids" want to form their own banana Republics, just to spite the Igbos of the hinterlands, they're free to do so.
What I detest is anyone trying to foist boundary arrangements initiated by the Babangidas, the Obasanjos, the Mamnan Nasirs and the Abachas.. My enemies can't define me..
And I don't think that groups that want to join should be chased out because they don't speak igbo. Dokubo and the BLM guys are not insane...
That's where I am on this issue at the moment and where I will always be on this issue!
You can now try your tricks on someone else.. My guy, those 1966 boundaries that you are referring to are dead and forever gone in reality. Our main focus should be uniting and consolidating Ndigbo that were Balkanized by Nigeria by the punitive post civil war boundary adjustment. There is a reason he keeps referring to you as IPOB. It’s because even though you are not a member, you think like them. They live in the past and refuse to acknowledge present realities. 7 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by owobokiri(m): 10:52pm On May 25, 2021 |
horsepower102:
My guy, those 1966 boundaries that you are referring to are dead and forever gone in reality.
Our main focus should be uniting and consolidating Ndigbo that were Balkanized by Nigeria by the punitive post civil war boundary adjustment.
There is a reason he keeps referring to you as IPOB. It’s because even though you are not a member, you think like them. They live in the past and refuse to acknowledge present realities. You guys don't get it! You are victims of propoganda.. Little misunderstanding with characters from the minority areas, you start to throw tantrums. The 1966 borders should be the starting point not the other way round! Those who want to join from the former Eastern Nigeria must be allowed! Even in Isreal, there are Arabs! All these ethnic purists argeuments are convinient excuses to confuse the uninitiated! The guy is suspect with his agenda! That some minorities abuse Igbos is not enough reason to throw them away together with those that don't! There are many Igbos that abuse Igbos clamoring for Biafra. So what do you do to them? Force Biafra on them too or throw in the towel because everyone does not support you? Is totality of consensus the new yardstick? And I'm not saying the tag ipob is wrong, I just told him I'm not yet a member and that's the fact so he should atleast stick to facts! |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by OfoIgbo: 2:37am On May 26, 2021 |
EdoDefence:
Just go and learn from Mr Ofoigbo But Igboid mentioned some of what I wrote in one of his initial messages on this thread. I definitely do know he mentioned the Igbo oil bearing communities in the SS and the abundance of gas in Igboland which could be converted into huge financial machine for the emerging Igbo nation. Perhaps you didn't see that particular message |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by Obergilgamesh11: 3:15am On May 26, 2021 |
Igboid:
Interesting.
What this shows is that Igbo republic is much viable without Minorities.
Once we get our Igbo people in Obiigbo and Egbema on board and get Enuani on board. We offset the Deficit in FG allocation immediately.
And we would still be sitting on gargantuan untapped natural gas reserves in Abia, Imo and Anambra to extract and even add more to our revenue generation. Oil exploration in SE has even been very poor. In BIAFRA we would intensify the effort in crude oil potentials of LGAs like Ugwunagbo and Ukwa East in Abia that have shown big promise, in Ohaji and Oguta LGAs of Imo, in Ogbaru, Anambra East, ANAMBRA west, and Ayamelum of Anambra, etc.
I'm sure we would find enough to quickly get more than we are currently getting from FG.
With an international airport of our own, more forex poured into the country by our humongous and resourceful diaspora population. Omo!
Biafra is very very viable without Minorities.
With Fulani herdsmen rounded up and sent to MALI, we can finally revolutionize our agricultural sector form of high tech agricultural system like they have in Netherlands and even earn more revenue. And we haven't even started talking of the skill capacity of Aba and industrial capacity of Nnewi. Innoson can be given all the support and power to become a truly global leading brand in technology. They can even be helped to diversify to other home electronics like refrigerators, TV, etc. Improving our balance of trade in the process as we would import less things from outside Igboland, ensuring a very strong Biafra pounds.
The potentials of independent republic of Igboland, aka Biafra is mind-blowing.
Someone should show IPOB and co this. . Pazienzia Nwanne, on that diaspora issue, I would strongly advocate for a diaspora tax, just like how every American citizen pays tax to the US regardless of where they are around the globe. Western first world country Igbos 18yrs and above $500 per head every year, Eastern Europe/Malaysia/China/Japan $300, South Africa/ Latin America/middle east $200, rest of the world outside Biafra $50-$75. Okwu agwu! Imagine the kind of infrastructural and technological advancements that can be achieved with these additional tax fund plus our Domestic GDP when administered under our own Ohacracy. We will shake Africa and indeed the world. 4 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by Igboid: 7:03am On May 26, 2021 |
Obergilgamesh11:
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Pazienzia Nwanne, on that diaspora issue, I would strongly advocate for a diaspora tax, just like how every American citizen pays tax to the US regardless of where they are around the globe. Western first world country Igbos 18yrs and above $500 per head every year, Eastern Europe/Malaysia/China/Japan $300, South Africa/ Latin America/middle east $200, rest of the world outside Biafra $50-$75. Okwu agwu!
Imagine the kind of infrastructural and technological advancements that can be achieved with these additional tax fund plus our Domestic GDP when administered under our own Ohacracy. We will shake Africa and indeed the world. Very beautiful idea. Biafra's biggest treasure always have been and would remain it's resourceful and highly patriotic people. Something NIGERIA can never have. Thanks nwanne. 4 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by Igboid: 7:25am On May 26, 2021 |
owobokiri:
You guys don't get it! You are victims of propoganda.. Little misunderstanding with characters from the minority areas, you start to throw tantrums.
The 1966 borders should be the starting point not the other way round! Those who want to join from the former Eastern Nigeria must be allowed! Even in Isreal, there are Arabs! All these ethnic purists argeuments are convinient excuses to confuse the uninitiated! The guy is suspect with his agenda!
That some minorities abuse Igbos is not enough reason to throw them away together with those that don't! There are many Igbos that abuse Igbos clamoring for Biafra. So what do you do to them? Force Biafra on them too or throw in the towel because everyone does not support you? Is totality of consensus the new yardstick?
And I'm not saying the tag ipob is wrong, I just told him I'm not yet a member and that's the fact so he should atleast stick to facts! Problem with you and your ilks is that you like playing the Ostrich. Are we going to pretend like the majority of the people in Eastern minority areas are not anti BIAFRA despite few people from those areas being pro BIAFRA, just as overwhelming majority of Ndiigbo are pro Biafran even though we have few Igbos who out of their selfish interests in Nigeria are anti BIAFRA? If you have lived in cities like Yenegoa, Uyo, Calabar, etc. You would easily get the mindset of the majority of the commoners there. It's not a rocket science. Our SE governors remain anti BIAFRA, but if you stay in any SE town, you would have no doubt about where the allegiance of Igbo commoners are. How many Biafra sit at home exercise since 1999 when MASSOB started it have been observed in Minority areas? No body is victim of propaganda. We are realists who embrace and work with the reality. While you and your type would rather embrace fantasies. You talked about Israel, good. Go and check what part of modern Israel they controlled in 1948. They always had intensions of reclaiming their entire land, but they were always wise enough to accept what little they were given in 1948 and slowly strengthened themselves and kept taking an inch per day, until they have recovered them all. If they insisted on having all parts of Palestine in 1948, their wouldn't be Israel today. You always have to work with what you presently have, strengthen your self and progressively expand. Germany lost large extent of land by the Oder-Niesse treaty to Poland post WW2, they struggled to let go those parts of Germany. Their people who had lands there were sent packing from their hometowns and became refugees in other parts of Germany. Those refugees put too much pressure on Western German leaders not to accept the new map of Germany the allied forces had drawn which would see Germany lose their homelands to Poland. Those few Ikwerres and minorities in IPOB are doing to us exactly what these German refugees whose lands were trapped in Poland by the new map were doing to Germany reunification. But the allied forces led by Russia insisted that the only way they would allow Germany reunification is if they accepted the Oder-Neisse new boundary. In the end, German leaders gave up and accepted it to the anger of Germans whose lands were claimed by Poland. They threw those refugees under the bus for the betterment of the majority of other Germans. We have to do same to those very few pro Biafra minorities. The most we can do for them is offer them Biafran passports. Chikena. Today Germans look at all they have achieved since then and are convinced they took the right decision. Today if they want those lands they would simply take them, USSR is no more and USA can't do no shii to this currently powerful Germany. War change things for a people. A smart people change their strategy, decisions, actions and mindset to be able to make the best out of their changed conditions in other to transform them to what they used to be. Like Israelis returning to Israel, Ndiigbo has to start from somewhere. And like Germans, we have to swallow our pride too and accept boundaries drawn by our bitter enemies and detractors atleast on the interim. Like Israelis and Germans, if we do the right thing, we would grow so powerful in the future that when we come for those lands no "bagga" can do nothing like Israel is doing in Palestine today. Or we can choose to be Germany and let the land go knowing fully well we have achieved success without them and might actually never needed or need them. What we wouldn't do is to be living in a past that doesn't still exist. The Eastern region map you Igbos are holding out on as Biafra map nolonger exists, it stopped existing since 1970. It's not a propaganda, it's a reality. If you are in doubt go to minority areas like Uyo, Oron, Calabar, Yenegoa, PH , etc and shout BIAFRA, and see what the natives think about it. This is the reality we have to accept first and work with,anything else is self deception that would take us to nowhere. 8 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by Ikwerelastborn: 7:38am On May 26, 2021 |
Igboid:
Workch:
I usually do not make posts on nairaland politics section but I have to address this charade of Senator Ndume as regards undermining the the contributions of southeast in Nigeria. I’m going to do this with Figures vis-à-vis the figures come north to show that northerners are conning people into staying in Nigeria, which is obviously failing.
Oil revenue and other
In 2017, the NBS released oil revenue figures of all Nigerian oil producing states which totals 32billion USD, assuming that we share the sentiment of subtly dissociating igbos in southsouth from their counterparts in Southeast, IMO and Abia combined accounted for 1.7% of this revenue, 1.7% of 32billion is 544million USD. It means that Imo and Abia brought 544million USD to Nigeria in 2017.
In this same year, southeast states received a total federal allocation of 152.9billion which is 459.1million USD using 333per dollar rate as it was obtainable in 2017.
Imo and Abia alone made 544million USD, this figure indicates that south east actually generated their own federal allocation. This cannot be said about the north’s humongous allocation, they feed from other south southern states
This will help create a picture to help you see who steals from who? Southeast earned every allocation they get, north steals from southsouth.
This is clearly seen as the total revenue generated in 2017, 65% of this was from oil while a substantial remaining Came from Lagos ports and business which igbos also contributed a large stake in terms of Importations of goods and federal taxes. Northerners don’t do importation a lot and they don’t have business paying taxes a lot.
We can hardly see the contribution of the northern states and their people here vis-à-vis the amount they get in term of allocations.
I am not an Igbo guy but it’s totally irrational to think that north is not the parasite here. They never earn whatever they get in Nigeria.
As matter of fact, aside Lagos and maybe ogun state and the oil producing states, other states include all 19northern states are parasites. None of them earn whatever they get. I am ikwerre, what u wrote is true |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by stanluiz(m): 7:48am On May 26, 2021 |
owobokiri:
You guys don't get it! You are victims of propoganda.. Little misunderstanding with characters from the minority areas, you start to throw tantrums.
The 1966 borders should be the starting point not the other way round! Those who want to join from the former Eastern Nigeria must be allowed! Even in Isreal, there are Arabs! All these ethnic purists argeuments are convinient excuses to confuse the uninitiated! The guy is suspect with his agenda!
That some minorities abuse Igbos is not enough reason to throw them away together with those that don't! There are many Igbos that abuse Igbos clamoring for Biafra. So what do you do to them? Force Biafra on them too or throw in the towel because everyone does not support you? Is totality of consensus the new yardstick?
And I'm not saying the tag ipob is wrong, I just told him I'm not yet a member and that's the fact so he should atleast stick to facts! Igboid has given you good fact and explain everything thing to you in way a blind man can even see and understand it yet you remain so ignorant and non realistic. That is the problem of Ipob. So stubborn, arrogant and foolish to accept reality just like your blood sucking and coward leader called nnamdi kanu. Biafran of 1967 no longer exists. Eastern region of 1960 to 1967 no longer exists. Limit your biafra agitation to South East and some Igbo group in SS that want to join. If those igboid area in SS refused, You just dump them like refuse paper. It is very hard for you people to accept! Yet you IPOB will be licking the ass of the minority that's why they keep rejecting any move by IpOB to add them in your fraudulent biafra map. I know you will still agure my point because you can't convince an ipob member because they have been brainwashed to much by your blood sucking supreme leader in London. You Igbos deserve to be arrested and put in a concentration map for rehabilitation, reorientation and re- education. 3 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by stanluiz(m): 7:50am On May 26, 2021 |
stanluiz:
Igboid has given you good fact and explain everything thing to you in way a blind man can even see and understand it yet you remain so ignorant and non realistic.
That is the problem of Ipob. So stubborn, arrogant and foolish to accept reality just like your blood sucking and coward leader called nnamdi kanu.
Biafran of 1967 no longer exists. Eastern region of 1960 to 1967 no longer exists. Limit your biafra agitation to South East and some Igbo group in SS that want to join. If those igboid area in SS refused, You just dump them like refuse paper.
It is very hard for you people to accept! Yet you IPOB will be licking the ass of the minority that's why they keep rejecting any move by IpOB to add them in your fraudulent biafra map.
I know you will still agure my point because you can't convince an ipob member because they have been brainwashed to much by your blood sucking supreme leader in London.
You Igbos deserve to be arrested and put in a concentration camp for rehabilitation, reorientation and re- education. |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by Fejoku: 9:02am On May 26, 2021 |
Igboid:
Nwanne, every revolution is usually started by one person through one group.
They generate enough critical mass that would now force everyone else to key in and give the process the final push needed to birth a new age.
MNK has taken upon himself to be that man who has selflessly offered his head to be used to break the proverbial coconut.
We should criticize him constructively when needed, but we should not antagonize him. If he made IPOB free for all and not a dictatorship, Nigerian agents would have used selfish Igbo undercover agents to infiltrate and internally destroy the organization.
I too criticise MNK one man show actions at times, but deep inside me, I know it's a necessity for the times we live in. I know you're intelligent enough to understand why IPOB extended her hand to our brothers and neighbours in the SS. It has nothing to do with resources as some of our SS brothers may think or as our numerous enemies may shout about just to frustrate our move. I'll make thread to expose the reasons here so the foolish ones can see for themselves that the decision by IPOB is the best and our enemies know it. It will save a lot of problems for all of us in the future. An all Igbo country has always been viable which IPOB knows. MNK is not running a one man show. There are many more desirous of our freedom than him. Result is what we want and that's what guides us. 1 Like |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by AfonjaConehead: 9:03am On May 26, 2021 |
EdoDefence:
Mr Igboid come and see the answer I expected from you 
Simple question you can't answer I have been observing you and I can't help but wonder if actually you are a citizen of Edo.... I'm Edo and know very well the people,region that are a huge burden to us all in this nation especially to us SS and the SE people.. look at the four arms of govt, the presidency,the senate,the house of rep and the judiciary,where do you find a SS or SE person at the helms of affairs? Do you wanna mention Omo agege? Among Buharis service chiefs,do you have a SE person represented? Who are the people that owns virtually all the oil wells in our Delta? Who are the people controlling our oil wealth? Who controls the maritime sector? I work at sea and u know everything about the maritime sector and all the bulshhhy happening in places like NIMASA. Who are the people opposing resources control,true federalism? Who are the people opposing total restructuring of the country? Who are the people against sovereign national conference? ....and when one takes a look at some of your posts,they are virtually all Igbo this,Igbo that!!!!! Very strange.. 6 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by Collyweed: 9:43am On May 26, 2021 |
owobokiri:
England would have been a poor vassal island today if she didn't venture outside! We write in english here today because of the fact that we are culturally segmented along the English norms. Shell Petroleum and others have made billions for their folks back home as a result of these forays outside. Russia and USA would have been inconsequential in global politics if they allowed vociferous enemies to force them into secluded boundaries. BOTTOM LINE: Where you have the chance to expand your boundaries, TAKE IT! It's the norm! State building is not for pacifists.
We are even having these "minority issues" in Biafra today, mainly because of the lack of hunger for territories in igboland. Otherwise, how can a tiny swat of space like ikwerre land be responsible for basically coordinating the "abandoned property" saga if base wars in the past were fought to neutralize any anti igbo sentiments there as the Yorubas and fuulani did with their own minorities? It's because of the "biri ka mû biri" mentality that these agrresive traits keep growing.. Igbo influence didn't permeate as it should..
In essence, our docile nature to issues associated with territorial acquisition is part of the reason why we are so vulnerable to the devilish manipulations of our most virulent enemies from afar.. The "biri ka mû biri" that you deride kept disparate Igbo communities in a state of relative peace for millennia. If I may ask you, how many active empire builders do you have in this 21st century? Have you not thought that maybe, just maybe they discovered something our ancestors discovered thousands of years ago? Including just one non-Igbo affirming community in Alaigbo will be a panacea for failure. I have nothing against our neighbours. I have nothing against our neighbours (actually, I have relatives from these places) but internal and external detractors have found it ridiculously easy to exploit ethnic diversity in the past. Just take a look at the Eastern region as an example. Even recently, Nnamdi and Asari had a falling out over religion. It didn't take long before it turned into an Ijaw vs Igbo issue. That is just a single recent example. I am personally tired of this nonsense. I have Ijaw relatives and I don't want to fight them. It is better they stay on their own and we stay on our own. That was the way our ancestors related with them and that is the best way forward. P.S: Ikwerre people were not responsible for abandoned property. I don't know where you got that from. To be fair to the Ikwerre, they actually lost a lot of land in the post civil war period. The people responsible for the Abandoned Property thing were Major David Mark (an Idoma, part of your IPOB Biafra) and Kenule Saro-Wiwa. 3 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by hammerDK: 9:49am On May 26, 2021 |
Igboid:
Workch:
I usually do not make posts on nairaland politics section but I have to address this charade of Senator Ndume as regards undermining the the contributions of southeast in Nigeria. I’m going to do this with Figures vis-à-vis the figures come north to show that northerners are conning people into staying in Nigeria, which is obviously failing.
Oil revenue and other
In 2017, the NBS released oil revenue figures of all Nigerian oil producing states which totals 32billion USD, assuming that we share the sentiment of subtly dissociating igbos in southsouth from their counterparts in Southeast, IMO and Abia combined accounted for 1.7% of this revenue, 1.7% of 32billion is 544million USD. It means that Imo and Abia brought 544million USD to Nigeria in 2017.
In this same year, southeast states received a total federal allocation of 152.9billion which is 459.1million USD using 333per dollar rate as it was obtainable in 2017.
Imo and Abia alone made 544million USD, this figure indicates that south east actually generated their own federal allocation. This cannot be said about the north’s humongous allocation, they feed from other south southern states
This will help create a picture to help you see who steals from who? Southeast earned every allocation they get, north steals from southsouth.
This is clearly seen as the total revenue generated in 2017, 65% of this was from oil while a substantial remaining Came from Lagos ports and business which igbos also contributed a large stake in terms of Importations of goods and federal taxes. Northerners don’t do importation a lot and they don’t have business paying taxes a lot.
We can hardly see the contribution of the northern states and their people here vis-à-vis the amount they get in term of allocations.
I am not an Igbo guy but it’s totally irrational to think that north is not the parasite here. They never earn whatever they get in Nigeria.
As matter of fact, aside Lagos and maybe ogun state and the oil producing states, other states include all 19northern states are parasites. None of them earn whatever they get. A SINGLE WORD SUMS UP THE IGBO STORY IN NIGERIA. THAT WORD IS WASTE. EVERY SINGLE FACET OF OUR RESOURCES HAVE GONE TO WASTE IN NIGERIA. HUMAN RESOURCES, WASTED BOTH MURDEROUSLY AND UNCULTIVATED. OUR PEOPLE ARE NEITHER LED NOR DRIVEN. CAPITAL WASTED, WE HAVE OIL COMPANIES FROM INDIA GIVEN PERMISSION FROM ABUJA TO COME AND HARVEST THE OIL IN ANAMBRA, WITHOUT ANY ENVIRONMENTAL PENALTY FOR POLLUTION, WITH MONEY GOING STRAIGHT TO ABUJA. ANAMBRA SEES NONE OF IT AS IT IS NOT YOUR PART OF THE OIL PRODUCING STATES. LAND WASTED, AT PRESENT WE HAVE OVER 300 FULANI SETTLEMENT STRAGTEGICALLY POSITIONED ACROSS IGBO SOIL, WITH THEIR ARMY ATTEMPTING TO KILL EVERYBODY SO THE FULANI CAN TAKE OVER THE TERRITORY. NWANNE, NIGERIA HAS BEEN A WASTE TO NDIGBOS. cc cococandy 4 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by Igboid: 9:51am On May 26, 2021 |
Collyweed:
The "biri ka mû biri" that you deride kept disparate Igbo communities in a state of relative peace for millennia.
If I may ask you, how many active empire builders do you have in this 21st century? Have you not thought that maybe, just maybe they discovered something our ancestors discovered thousands of years ago?
Including just one non-Igbo affirming community in Alaigbo will be a panacea for failure. I have nothing against our neighbours. I have nothing against our neighbours (actually, I have relatives from these places) but internal and external detractors have found it ridiculously easy to exploit ethnic diversity in the past. Just take a look at the Eastern region as an example. Even recently, Nnamdi and Asari had a falling out over religion. It didn't take long before it turned into an Ijaw vs Igbo issue. That is just a single recent example.
I am personally tired of this nonsense. I have Ijaw relatives and I don't want to fight them. It is better they stay on their own and we stay on our own. That was the way our ancestors related with them and that is the best way forward.
P.S: Ikwerre people were not responsible for abandoned property. I don't know where you got that from. To be fair to the Ikwerre, they actually lost a lot of land in the post civil war period. The people responsible for the Abandoned Property thing were Major David Mark (an Idoma, part of your IPOB Biafra) and Kenule Saro-Wiwa. The Biri Kam Biri ideology is also why Ndiigbo are very populous and a major force in Africa today. War cost lives. Look at all the places they use to have empires and kingdoms in Nigeria, they are scantly populated and are minorities today. Look at Edo state, Igalas, etc. Even Yorubaland, compare their vast land to their population and you discover they are scantly populated. Wars cost lives and decimate youthful population. Our ancestors valued human lives and peace. It's a template that served us well. No single Igbophobic group should be part of Biafra! 4 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by hammerDK: 9:52am On May 26, 2021 |
THE FIRST THING IGBO SHOULD DO IS EXIT NIGERIA.
THEREAFTER, OTHER THINGS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED OVER TIME BY SUCCESSIVE GENERATIONS.
THIS GENERATION WILL DRAW UP THE BLUE PRINT OF WHAT WE ENVISAGE FOR ALAIGBO.
WE ARE THE GENERATION THAT DESIGNS THE BLUE PRINT.
THE NEXT GENERATION WILL BE THE BUILDERS.
WE JUST NEED TO SET UP THE INSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK, AS A GUIDANCE FOR THEM.
OFCOURSE THEY CAN UPDATE AND MODIFY, WITH TIME. 4 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by Igboid: 9:55am On May 26, 2021 |
hammerDK:
A SINGLE WORD SUMS UP THE IGBO STORY IN NIGERIA.
THAT WORD IS WASTE.
EVERY SINGLE FACET OF OUR RESOURCES HAVE GONE TO WASTE IN NIGERIA.
HUMAN RESOURCES, WASTED BOTH MURDEROUSLY AND UNCULTIVATED.
OUR PEOPLE ARE NEITHER LED NOR DRIVEN.
CAPITAL WASTED, WE HAVE OIL COMPANIES FROM INDIA GIVEN PERMISSION FROM ABUJA TO COME AND HARVEST THE OIL IN ANAMBRA, WITHOUT ANY ENVIRONMENTAL PENALTY FOR POLLUTION, WITH MONEY GOING STRAIGHT TO ABUJA.
ANAMBRA SEES NONE OF IT AS IT IS NOT YOUR PART OF THE OIL PRODUCING STATES.
LAND WASTED, AT PRESENT WE HAVE OVER 300 FULANI SETTLEMENT STRAGTEGICALLY POSITIONED ACROSS IGBO SOIL, WITH THEIR ARMY ATTEMPTING TO KILL EVERYBODY SO THE FULANI CAN TAKE OVER THE TERRITORY.
NWANNE, NIGERIA HAS BEEN A WASTE TO NDIGBOS. cc cococandy Real waste. We wasted 107years of Igbo history in Nigeria. These years would be remembered as the dark age of Igbo history in BIAFRA by our children in Biafra history classes in the future. Professors would write books about it, PhD students would do research on the topic, it would be taught in Igbo language to our pupils and students in Biafran primary, secondary and universities. 5 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by hammerDK: 9:56am On May 26, 2021 |
THERE ARE NO GREAT NATIONS, WITHOUT GREAT THINKERS AND PHILOSOPHERS.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO INSTITUTE THE SOUL OF THE NATION.
ITS VALUES AND BELIEF SYSTEM.
THAT DUTY FALLS ON US AS THE FIRST GENERATION.
THIS WAS EXACTLY HOW AMERICA BECAME GREAT, THROUGH THE VISION OF THE LIKES OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN. 2 Likes 
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| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by hammerDK: 9:57am On May 26, 2021 |
Igboid:
Real waste.
We wasted 107years of Igbo history in Nigeria.
These years would be remembered as the dark age of Igbo history in BIAFRA by our children in Biafra history classes in the future.
Professors would write books about it, PhD students would do research on the topic, it would be taught in Igbo language to our pupils and students in Biafran primary, secondary and universities. I THINK THE WASTE REACH 600 YEARS, IF YOU ADD SLAVERY FROM BOTH BRITISH AND PORTUGESE. THEN THE BRITISH CREATED NIGERIA AND HANDED US OVER TO FULANI SADIST. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by hammerDK: 10:02am On May 26, 2021 |
THE FIRST STAGE OF ALAIGBO ECONOMY, IS TO PRODUCE ALOT OF WRITERS AND ACADEMIC WORKS OF AUTHORITY.
WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO THAT NOW.
WE HAVE TO BUILD A KNOWLEDGE BASED ECONOMY, DEPARTING FROM THE OUR OIL MENTALITY OR RESOURCES FOCUS.
OUR GREATEST ASSET IS OUR PEOPLE.
THE MANAGEMENT OF OUR HUMAN RESOURCES SHOULD BE PARAMOUNT.
OUR PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER AGAIN NEITHER BE LEAD OR DRIVEN.
ONYE WERE MMADU KA ONYE WERE EGO. 3 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by Collyweed: 10:07am On May 26, 2021 |
Igboid:
The Biri Kam Biri ideology is also why Ndiigbo are very populous and a major force in Africa today.
War cause lives. Look at all the places they use to have empires and kingdoms in Nigeria, they are scantly populated and are minorities today. Look at Edo state, Igalas, etc. Even Yorubaland, compare their vast land to their population and you discover they are scantly populated. Wars cost lives and decimate youthful population.
Our ancestors valued human lives and peace.
It's a template that served us well.
No single Igbophobic group should be part of Biafra! I am beginning to suspect that guy. How can an Igbo person be against something as fundamental as Biri Kam Biri ? I am getting scared of this IPOB. There is no point in pursuing independence if we will discard the fundamental values that served our ancestors for millenia and embrace unproven alien ones. 3 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by hammerDK: 10:09am On May 26, 2021 |
ONYE WERE MMADU KA ONYE WERE EGO. THIS RIGHT HERE SHOULD BE OUR ECONOMY MOTTO. IT IS ANCIENT BUT STILL TRUE. I WILL EVEN GO AS FAR AS INSCRIBING IT ON OUR CURRENCY. 2 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by hammerDK: 10:11am On May 26, 2021 |
Collyweed:
I am beginning to suspect that guy. How can an Igbo person be against something as fundamental as Biri Kam Biri ? I am getting scared of this IPOB.
There is no point in pursuing independence if we will discard the fundamental values that served our ancestors for millenia and embrace unproven alien ones. WE NEED TO GO BACK TO ALOT OF THE PROVERB OR PHILOSOPHY OF OUR ANCESTORS. THOSE WERE TRUILY WISE WORDS. WE NEED TO LIVE BY THEM AND INCORPORATE IT TO OUR DAILY ENDEAVOUR AND NATIONAL OUTLOOK. 2 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by hammerDK: 10:17am On May 26, 2021 |
THERE IS NO IGBO PERSON IN NIGERIA THAT WILL SAY THEY HAVE NOT SUFFERED WASTE.
WHEN IT REACH TIME FOR PROMOTION, BECAUSE YOU ARE IGBO, THEY WILL PUSH YOU TO THE SIDE AND PROMOTE EITHER FULANI OR YORUBA, DEPENDING ON WHO IS IN POWER.
THEY WILL EMPLOY A FULANI WITH NO QUALIFICATION TO BE YOUR BOSS.
HECK WE EVEN HAD A FULANI PRESIDENT WITH NO CERTIFICATE.
MANY OF YOU WENT TO SCHOOL IN NIGERIA, BUT A FULANI THAT ARRIVED TODAY FROM MALI IS WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT BUT YOU ARE UNEMPLOYED. 2 Likes |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by hammerDK: 10:19am On May 26, 2021 |
WASTE!
WASTE!
WASTE! |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by hammerDK: 10:20am On May 26, 2021 |
WAT HAPPENS WEN U GO TO FORM COUNTRY WITH PEOPLE YOU ARE BETTER THAN.
THEY WILL TURN PARASITIC ON YOU AND DRAIN YOUR BLOOD.
WASTE! |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by owobokiri(m): 11:32am On May 26, 2021 |
Igboid:
Problem with you and your ilks is that you like playing the Ostrich.
Are we going to pretend like the majority of the people in Eastern minority areas are not anti BIAFRA despite few people from those areas being pro BIAFRA, just as overwhelming majority of Ndiigbo are pro Biafran even though we have few Igbos who out of their selfish interests in Nigeria are anti BIAFRA?
If you have lived in cities like Yenegoa, Uyo, Calabar, etc. You would easily get the mindset of the majority of the commoners there. It's not a rocket science. Our SE governors remain anti BIAFRA, but if you stay in any SE town, you would have no doubt about where the allegiance of Igbo commoners are.
How many Biafra sit at home exercise since 1999 when MASSOB started it have been observed in Minority areas?
No body is victim of propaganda. We are realists who embrace and work with the reality.
While you and your type would rather embrace fantasies.
You talked about Israel, good. Go and check what part of modern Israel they controlled in 1948. They always had intensions of reclaiming their entire land, but they were always wise enough to accept what little they were given in 1948 and slowly strengthened themselves and kept taking an inch per day, until they have recovered them all. If they insisted on having all parts of Palestine in 1948, their wouldn't be Israel today.
You always have to work with what you presently have, strengthen your self and progressively expand.
Germany lost large extent of land by the Oder-Niesse treaty to Poland post WW2, they struggled to let go those parts of Germany. Their people who had lands there were sent packing from their hometowns and became refugees in other parts of Germany. Those refugees put too much pressure on Western German leaders not to accept the new map of Germany the allied forces had drawn which would see Germany lose their homelands to Poland. Those few Ikwerres and minorities in IPOB are doing to us exactly what these German refugees whose lands were trapped in Poland by the new map were doing to Germany reunification.
But the allied forces led by Russia insisted that the only way they would allow Germany reunification is if they accepted the Oder-Neisse new boundary.
In the end, German leaders gave up and accepted it to the anger of Germans whose lands were claimed by Poland. They threw those refugees under the bus for the betterment of the majority of other Germans.
We have to do same to those very few pro Biafra minorities. The most we can do for them is offer them Biafran passports. Chikena.
Today Germans look at all they have achieved since then and are convinced they took the right decision. Today if they want those lands they would simply take them, USSR is no more and USA can't do no shii to this currently powerful Germany.
War change things for a people. A smart people change their strategy, decisions, actions and mindset to be able to make the best out of their changed conditions in other to transform them to what they used to be.
Like Israelis returning to Israel, Ndiigbo has to start from somewhere. And like Germans, we have to swallow our pride too and accept boundaries drawn by our bitter enemies and detractors atleast on the interim.
Like Israelis and Germans, if we do the right thing, we would grow so powerful in the future that when we come for those lands no "bagga" can do nothing like Israel is doing in Palestine today. Or we can choose to be Germany and let the land go knowing fully well we have achieved success without them and might actually never needed or need them.
What we wouldn't do is to be living in a past that doesn't still exist. The Eastern region map you Igbos are holding out on as Biafra map nolonger exists, it stopped existing since 1970. It's not a propaganda, it's a reality. If you are in doubt go to minority areas like Uyo, Oron, Calabar, Yenegoa, PH , etc and shout BIAFRA, and see what the natives think about it. This is the reality we have to accept first and work with,anything else is self deception that would take us to nowhere.
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| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by Ofunwa111: 11:38am On May 26, 2021 |
Izuchukwu18:
They only people I want in united states of Biafran is Southeast Igbos , southsouth Igbos,northern Igbos, akwaibom and cross river people . This type of biafra is balanced ,there will be no problem in it  who be this one ? |
| Re: An Argument For The Economic Viability Of Alaigbo by IGBOSON1: 11:52am On May 26, 2021 |
owobokiri:
England would have been a poor vassal island today if she didn't venture outside! We write in english here today because of the fact that we are culturally segmented along the English norms. Shell Petroleum and others have made billions for their folks back home as a result of these forays outside. Russia and USA would have been inconsequential in global politics if they allowed vociferous enemies to force them into secluded boundaries. BOTTOM LINE: Where you have the chance to expand your boundaries, TAKE IT! It's the norm! State building is not for pacifists.
We are even having these "minority issues" in Biafra today, mainly because of the lack of hunger for territories in igboland. Otherwise, how can a tiny swat of space like ikwerre land be responsible for basically coordinating the "abandoned property" saga if base wars in the past were fought to neutralize any anti igbo sentiments there as the Yorubas and fuulani did with their own minorities? It's because of the "biri ka mû biri" mentality that these agrresive traits keep growing.. Igbo influence didn't permeate as it should..
In essence, our docile nature to issues associated with territorial acquisition is part of the reason why we are so vulnerable to the devilish manipulations of our most virulent enemies from afar.. Spot on! 1 Like |
