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Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Owologbo(m): 2:39pm On May 16, 2021
SweetiliciousD:


Your Niger Delta or what ever, exists without Igbo descent ba? Think again
And how does your Igbo decent affect the Niger Delta, should the Igbo follow Biafra?
Can you show me a state in the Niger Delta where Igbos tribes are in-between two different tribes?
All the Igbo tribes are close to boundaries with Igbo States.
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by SweetiliciousD: 3:09pm On May 16, 2021
Owologbo:

And how does your Igbo decent affect the Niger Delta, should the Igbo follow Biafra?
Can you show me a state in the Niger Delta where Igbos tribes are in-between two different tribes?
All the Igbo tribes are close to boundaries with Igbo States.

My yooloba bloda spotted!
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by bjdon: 3:19pm On May 16, 2021
allcomage:

Edo State as it is today will not be a country of its own without crisis as some people are projecting. Eshan people don't believe in obaship because the oba is a Yoruba, he's being resented by other tribes in edo and preserved by the Nigeria system.
Nobody lords anything over the Esans, we do not roll like that in Edo. All the groups in Edo state, acknowledge the supremacy of the Oba, we are a very traditional state and don't need outsiders to tell us about our traditions and institutions. There will be no crisis in Edo state as there was none when we were Midwest region and Bendel state. Other regioins should face there issues and leave the Edo's alone.

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Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Owologbo(m): 3:48pm On May 16, 2021
Elliot2:
That is my fear. South south would be the most messed up in the event of breakup because there is nothing uniting minorities except igbos(not even oil). I am from Bayelsa State(Ijaw). The confusion of a south south state can only be imagined. Only a merge with Igbos can give us a sense of purpose. Maybe in future, we can seek to become a separate country after understand how to govern ourselves.
You don't know what you are saying.
Igbo didn't unite SS.
And you following Biafra without any signed agreement will be the worst decision of your life.
you a minority following Biafra without agreement is equivalent to committing suicide.
The oppression from the north against the south will be a child play
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by ivandragon: 4:26pm On May 16, 2021
Owologbo:

is Edo state not in South South?

Based on the political structure of Nigeria, yes.

But if you look at the way Biafra & Oduduwa Republics are mapped, almost all their boundaries seem to stop just outside Edo state.

Though I am yet to see a Niger Delta Republic map which would be interesting...
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Nobody: 4:35pm On May 16, 2021
DMerciful:
If Igbos leave, Yorubas would leave and many others. You're living in fool's paradise to think Nigeria will remain if Igbos leave
What concern u with others. You can't agitate for secession out of hatred and envy. Pls concentrate on ur path!
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by DMerciful(m): 5:32pm On May 16, 2021
You're just a child who doesn't know how things work. Study multi ethnic groups breakup like USSR and Yugoslavia.....
Coronabirus:
What concern u with others. You can't agitate for secession out of hatred and envy. Pls concentrate on ur path!
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Owologbo(m): 6:41pm On May 16, 2021
SweetiliciousD:


My yooloba bloda spotted!

Yooloba bloda from where?
I'm a Deltan.
can you use Delta State as an example to show me where Igbos are in-between two other tribes?
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Owologbo(m): 6:43pm On May 16, 2021
ivandragon:


Based on the political structure of Nigeria, yes.

But if you look at the way Biafra & Oduduwa Republics are mapped, almost all their boundaries seem to stop just outside Edo state.

Though I am yet to see a Niger Delta Republic map which would be interesting...
In which part of Edo state is Igbo tribes is found in between other tribes?
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by ivandragon: 6:55pm On May 16, 2021
Owologbo:

In which part of Edo state is Igbo tribes is found in between other tribes?

What exactly are you talking about?

My primary comment was just an observation, so if there is a point to all these your questions, let's hear it/them.
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by SweetiliciousD: 7:11pm On May 16, 2021
Owologbo:

Yooloba bloda from where?
I'm a Deltan.
can you use Delta State as an example to show me where Igbos are in-between two other tribes?

Ask UGM
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Nobody: 7:15pm On May 16, 2021
Niger Delta "Igbo" Cant Give Biafra Direct Sea Access Because Of These Tribes

There is an Igbo obsession with the Atlantic Ocean almost to the point of neuroses. This has led to the forceful conscription of all peoples with moonlight fable links of their Igboid ancestry into Biafra, such as the still puzzled Esan people of Ubiaja in Edo State who suddendly woke up one day to discover they are Igbo.

The problem is even if for agreement sake all these Igbo claimed peoples were to agree (Impossibility) to be Biafra, Biafra still wont be an Atlantic Nation as none of these tribes seat on the Atlantic Ocean.

Take the case of Rivers State. In the unlikely event that the the less than 500,000 Ikweres allow themselves to be dragged into Biafra, the direct sea access will still be blocked by the below tribes that include Ogonis, Ijaws, Kalabaris who are all sitting right on the ocean and will never give up their land.

My advise to those seeking Biafra is to focus on the 5 state of South East to be taking serious.

There will be a Yoruba Nation.
Their will be 1 or 2 Niger Delta Nations.
There will be an Igbo Nation, it just wont be this Biafran hallucinations.

Igbos are becoming very scary people to Southern minorities as it is becoming certain that Nigeria will dissolve.


Languages of the 4 Atlantic Coastal Rivers State LGA

LGA Languages
Akuku Toru Ijo, Southeast
Bonny Ibani
Degema Abua; Degema; Kalabari; Ogbronuagum
Opobo-Nkoro Ibani; Defaka; Ibibio; Nkoroo

Languages of Other Nearest Coastal Rivers State LGA

LGA Languages
Abua-Odual Kugbo; Odual; Ogbia
Aku Kalabari
Asaritoru Kalabari
Eleme Baan; Eleme
Gokana Baan; Gokana
Khana Anaang; Khana
Ogoni Gokana
Ogu-Bolo Kirike
Okrika Kirike
Port Harcourt Kalabari Kirike; Obulom ; Ijaw
Tai Baan; Tee



Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Nobody: 10:26am On May 17, 2021
DMerciful:
You're just a child who doesn't know how things work. Study multi ethnic groups breakup like USSR and Yugoslavia.....
A child with fish brain is someone who always give example with countries whose attitude, characters, lifestyle, exposure, education, level of reasoning, system of govt is totally different from black race.
If USSR, Malaysia and Singapore took those decisions then what can u say abt Spain-Catalunia long aged secession, Ethiopia-Tigray current secession that brought disaster to their people?
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by DMerciful(m): 2:17pm On May 17, 2021
It's not a must to stay with someone. If it's not working, it's not working.

Eritrea already broke from Ethiopia, South Sudan already broke from Sudan. Black self determination is no different from white but the unity of purpose and courage is the challenge.
Coronabirus:
A child with fish brain is someone who always give example with countries whose attitude, characters, lifestyle, exposure, education, level of reasoning, system of govt is totally different from black race.
If USSR, Malaysia and Singapore took those decisions then what can u say abt Spain-Catalunia long aged secession, Ethiopia-Tigray current secession that brought disaster to their people?
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Bundaweber: 8:40pm On May 17, 2021
Idiko1:


I did not even insinuate Edo is an entity of Igbo. However Igbo land extends into Edo State. The land of Igboakiri people (Igbanke) is Igbo land though found in Edo State.


make all of una wey be igbos stop behaving the way you guys claim the fulanis are behaving. land grabbers you guys are. the igbanke people prefere to be closer to their bini brothers than they are to you igbos
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Bundaweber: 8:43pm On May 17, 2021
Coronabirus:
A child with fish brain is someone who always give example with countries whose attitude, characters, lifestyle, exposure, education, level of reasoning, system of govt is totally different from black race.
If USSR, Malaysia and Singapore took those decisions then what can u say abt Spain-Catalunia long aged secession, Ethiopia-Tigray current secession that brought disaster to their people?


leve them!!! those cheering for secession are the ones who could not claim revelance/leadership position within the current set up. in their delusion or is it arrogance they believe that if their wish occurs they will become leaders

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Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:23pm On May 27, 2021
Bundaweber:



make all of una wey be igbos stop behaving the way you guys claim the fulanis are behaving. land grabbers you guys are. the igbanke people prefere to be closer to their bini brothers than they are to you igbos

IGBANKE people disgust bini people. QED
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:24pm On May 27, 2021
kmcutez:


Even the Anioma people have separated themselves from the Igbos by calling themselves Delta Igbos. SMH.

Anioma people still call themselves IGBO right?

Cuz u wrote delta IGBO..
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:25pm On May 27, 2021
EdoDefence:


That's according to you, but according to me, all Benin decendants will want to be part of Benin Kingdom

Igbanke IGBOakiri are not descendants of Bini
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:28pm On May 27, 2021
kollinzgee:
Unless the country is restructured in less than 5 years i dont see Nigeria existing.
i dont see igbos grabbing niger delta tribes by force but they will definitely go for the south south igbos from delta down to Rivers wether it is with force or with peace i dont really know how.
igbos know southeast is small,and it makes no sense that that igbo speakers are ceded to the southsouth while southeast is not even as big as some states in the north.if southeast igbos lay claim to south south igbos no tribe in the Niger delta would interfere or wage war against igbos because it would be every man for himself and a family afair, when the time comes


30,000 km² is more than enough for a people to exist.

Lagos is 10% of the landmass of SE and yet 20 million people live in lagos.

Math it up bro
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:30pm On May 27, 2021
helinues:
Except South South and South East merge together to form a country, I don't think any of them can get independent on their own

It get why

When old Western region and Eastern region was dissolved, Gowon the evil genius cunningly cut out majority of where concentration of Igbos are out of the border line.. I am not saying the indigenous Igbos in SS don't share border with SE but if you look at it in extension, you should get what I mean.

If SE people want to claim their land back,before they can get to where the concentration of Igbos are, they must have overtaken some South South land...



IGBOs have the man power, intelligence, unity and finance to leave Nigeria, It is actually the SS that does not have what it takes to leave nigeria.

Ur last statement is totally false, There is absolutely no need for IGBOs to take any portion of land from SS wen they want to recover the IGBO territories over there.

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Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:31pm On May 27, 2021
EdoDefence:
they don't have the right to grab any SS tribe by force, this is not 18BC. Ibos in SS will go along with their SE brothers

Can u remind us wen the IGBOs grabbed any portion of SS in d past?
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:32pm On May 27, 2021
Akwamkpuruamu:


As in eeh, I no nọ how dem wan take do. Maybe they would join Oduduwa

They will never join afonjas
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:33pm On May 27, 2021
Masterkernel1:


We've never laid claims to South South, except when their leadership willingly agree, example is the Biafra Nigerian war. Some parts agreed while some didn't.

You can't force a people to a union it will end bad.

Biafraland is bigger than many independent states in Europe.

Every single part of SS (asides Edo) accepted n joined biafra willing back in the 60s
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:35pm On May 27, 2021
blues234:
One of the core reason Ikwerre don't accept the Igbo tag is because of Biafra. Call them Igbo and see them tell you to your face they are not Biafrans. This is as a result of their hellish experience during the war. Ikwerres were refuges in mainland Igbo, and the experience was bitter. They came back to their land and experienced another marginalization from FG Ijaw backed Rivers state. This experience is not what you will want a repeat of.
Funny enough, bulk of Ikwerre people fought on the side of Biafra, during the civil war. In a nutshell, forget Biafra. Go for a restructured Nigeria.

And who is interested in giving u a restructured Nigeria
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:36pm On May 27, 2021
helinues:


Easy bro, read my comments again.

I said before they get to where the indigenous Igbos are, they must have overtaken some SS land which doesn't make sense

There is ZERO SS land to overtake.

Make una try de travel small.
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:38pm On May 27, 2021
helinues:


The civil was was tagged Biafra war cos Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu and Emmanuel Ifeajuna are from old Eastern region which is now present day SS and SE..

If you don't the war to be tagged as Biafra war, then stop talking about any land in SS


Why are u skilled in baseless and false information??

The biafran far wasn't tagged Biafran because of Nzeogwu or ifeajuna
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:40pm On May 27, 2021
helinues:




Or are there no indigenous Igbos in some SS?

All Indigenous IGBOs in SS & middle belt have a direct border with the 5 IGBO states..

Except Bonny and Opobo islands which are in the ocean, both are 70% IGBO and the official language spoken there is IGBO....Most indigens are bilingual too

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Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:43pm On May 27, 2021
Norwichsailor:

Its impossible for ijaw,ibibio,bini etc to form a country but Nigeria with over 200 ethnic groups is a country.
Some of u igbo chaps feel the world revolves around you meanwhile it doesn't.
In niger delta almost everyone has sea access,oil, good land and infrastructure, ibibio/efik or ijaw which would be the largest groups can't still overwhelmingly dominate without support from several other groups unlike what u have here in Nigeria.
Worry about ur biafra and let us worry about niger delta, know this and know peace.
Besides u claim its only igbo land that connects us and thats crap, from the ogoja territory down to to ibibio land u can navigate without going through the se, now from ikot abasi the ibibios connect to the ijaw in obolo lga of rivers, as usual the ijaws own the coast from there through bayelsa down to ondo where they now border the bini,urhobo and esan by land. I've just gone from the two farthest points in the niger delta without going through even the igboid tribes in the ss so brother don't feel too much about urself

""Its impossible for ijaw,ibibio,bini etc to form a country but Nigeria with over 200 ethnic groups is a country.""


Wake up and stop this crap.

Nigeria was forced to become one country and both of us are clearly seeing the evidence as regards why such should never be tried.

Even the day amalgamation was signed in 1914, No single IGBO or eastern leader was present, we never ever wanted to be a part of it.

Nobody is agitating for niger delta republic because the over 20 tribes there have almost zero interest in it.



IF YOU ARE REALLY FROM THE SS, THEN U ALREADY KNOW BINI, IBIBOO, EFIK AND EDO CAN NEVER AGREE TO FORM A COUNTRY.

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Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:47pm On May 27, 2021
Norwichsailor:

Give me theoretical explanation as to why you're thinking the niger delta is not possible without the igbos? Realistically the igbos are surrounded by enemies and pissing off the SS which is your only ally is not a sound strategy, I'm beginning to believe you're not even igbo sef.

Niger delta can never ever exist as a nation, Any adult who grew up in Nigeria knows this.

At best Ijaw, ibiboo, annang, efik, esan, urhobo, etc can form a very distant tribal based league of nation
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:53pm On May 27, 2021
OfoIgbo:


Actually, I expect Ibibios to be able to form a great nation. They have the right temperament for that. They gave Biafra some badass administrators like NU Akpan and of course Obong Efiong.
If Ibibios further join up with Efiks, Annangs and othe Akwa-Cross ethnic nationalities with whom they share certain similarities, the nation will be very attractive.
The only downside will be that Bakassi will be lost for good, as it will be easier to get with 10s of millions of Biafrans than just a few million Akwa-Cross people, but Bakassi is a small price to pay for ones self-determination.

No doubt Ibibios have more in common with Igbos than they do with Edo people, and even Ijoid people with whom they have common land borders, but still I don't see any obstacle if Akwa-cross people wish to join up with the Midwest to form a nation. But an SS nation will be too restrictive for enterprising Ibibios. An Akwa-cross nation will suit Ibibios and the other Akwa-cross ethnic groups just fine.


Join up with midwest? Which midwest pls?

Urhobo, Isoko, Bini and Itshekiri?
Re: The Fate Of South South Igbos When Nigeria Breaks. by Gambit23: 7:54pm On May 27, 2021
helinues:


Na 3 options dey

1. The Igbo people in South South should relocate to any of the SE states cos they are merely a tenant

2. Carry the land the Igbo are indigenous to in SS and move it to SE region

3. Repeat 1967 history to claim the land.

IGBOs cannot claim IGBO land that is already existing in IGBO land.



Anyway u have to justify ur pay, I'm not surprised @ ur ignorant comments anymore

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