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| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 7:11pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
enilove:1. So where do you have Jesus Christ telling you that except for the human beings who are working for the devil, all other enemies you must love? ![]() 2. According to Jesus Christ, all those who claim to belong to Him but refuse to obey Him are of their father, the devil .I.e. they are working for the devil... are you saying that Jesus Christ tells you to hate those ones? ![]() 3. The devil lives inside of everyone who is a sinner. In fact, the one you call the devil, believes in Jesus Christ and is a part of the Kingdom of God(Hell) where He will serve after Jesus Christ returns to throw Him and His Kind in for eternity. ![]() Since it is near impossible to identify those who do not belong to the devil except God lives inside of you, are you then suggesting Jesus Christ was wrong in loving and dying for the sinners? ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 7:15pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
CharisEleos:Moses said....suffer not the witch to live but Jesus Christ says, Love the witch(a sinner) and pray for them. Whose report will you believe? ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 7:21pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
CharisEleos:1. Are witches not humans, sinners even? Are there plans any different from the kind you make in your own life, except for direction? ![]() 2. Jesus Christ, the one you claim says you should love even the witches and pray for them, not against them. What other image have you set in your mind that would cause you to even go as far as to stand against the Almighty Himself in this? ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 7:27pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
enilove:In John 20 vs 21 - 23, Jesus Christ makes clear what that the righteous among His followers are able to forgive sins and not to. In both cases you cited - Bar Jesus, Ananias and Saphira - the unforgivable sin was supposedly committed , sin against the very Spirit of God, hence the condemnation. ![]() Now back to witches and wizards and Jesus Christ's command that we love our enemies and pray for them, if you submit that witches are sinners, why do you continue to insist that you have been given authority to kill them? ![]() And by what power does this fire come with which you supposedly burn them with? Obviously cannot be the power of God since what you declare is against Jesus Christ, the one through whom the power you claim ought to be sourced. Recall that a Kingdom divided against itself cannot stand so by whose power does your fire come down on your enemies, these witches? ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 7:34pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
CharisEleos:You at least have a particular group in mind and that is those who you pretend are your enemies and according to Jesus Christ, those are the very same you are to love and pray for(not against). ![]() You may not know there names or their faces, but you know them as your enemies. They are the one's Jesus Christ was speaking of. Those "whoever" whose Jesus Christ's New Covenant is also available to are the same "Whosoevers" that He speaks to you of loving. ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 9:11pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Jesus did not die for witchcrafts powers . He died for humans and not for demons. Witchcrafts is a satanic branch of the devil's power on earth. When you ask God to kill the witchcrafts power operating inside witches and wizards , two things can happen : 1) The witch might be set free of the witchcrafts power , that is , delivered from those powers. 2 ) God can kill the human being harboring the witchcrafts power along with the demons. In both cases , their evil agendas would have been terminated without harm on their victims. Witchcrafts is satanism and God hates it with perfect hatred THIS IS AN EXAMPLE FROM PAUL WHO WROTE ABOUT LOVE IN THE BIBLE : Acts 13:8-11 KJV But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, [10] And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? [11] And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. Whose hand was upon Elymas ? God or man? |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 10:14pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:. Kobojunkie:Ok. I've heard you. But what if they kill someone's family member and put one in grief. should the person still keep loving and praying them? Or.. they walk up to you and tell you they will deal with you. Will you still keep on loving and praying for them? Answer Sincerely o. |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by StubbornGENIUS: 10:18pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
CharisEleos:Have you seen a "witch" on duty? ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 10:21pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
enilove:1. Why do you keep shifting the goal post here. First you claim that witches are humans who are submitted to the devil, now you claim they are instead demons. Please pick on and show us Bible proof of your claim while you are at it. ![]() 2. When Jesus Christ took on Judas, the one who belonged to the same devil you speak of, did Jesus Christ seek to cast Him out or did Jesus Christ allow Him to stay within His gold until the end? ![]() You keep speaking as if there is a group that is exempt from God's Kingdom and somehow believe this is done by God Himself but the very same God, in a parable, spoke of allowing the good and evil crops grow together in His Kingdom until harvest, when He will ask His servants to harvest them separately. ![]() You however seem to believe that it is your duty to dispose of those whom you have set your sights against, going as far as to conjure up stories about how there is a separate group out there made specially for you to target and I wonder where in the Gospels Jesus Christ tells you this. ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
StubbornGENIUS:God forbid. But sometimes they threaten people and make do their threat. I believe it's better to stop them before they get you. |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 10:25pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
CharisEleos:Did John stop loving the Jewish establishment after they murdered His brother? ![]() Did the first Christians turn against the Jews after they massacred families and peoples even there in the book of Acts? ![]() This is why I tell people sometimes that Christianity is not for everyone and Jesus Christ warned you too. If you are not willing to give up on your family ties, friendships and treasures to follow God, then I am afraid you are in the wrong place and you doom yourself by your choice. ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 10:32pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:I reject it! I didn't and won't doom myself. I was only asking a question. You don't need to start judging me. Ok? Go jorr . I don't really pray against people. I only pray against negative powers and then I bind demons. |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 10:36pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
CharisEleos:This has nothing to do with judging you but with stating the Truth of God as told us by Jesus Christ. According to Jesus Christ, anyone who does not hate family, friends, treasure, etc for His sake,is not worthy of Him. And these are the kind who enter the Kingdom of God through the broad gate that leads only to Hell because they still hold on to this world. ![]() You need to review your relationship with Jesus Christ and be sure you are heading in the right direction and that can only be the direction where you submit wholly to obeying ALL of His commandments without objection. ![]() As for binding and casting, think about what Jesus Christ really said. He said whatever you bind on earth is bound in Heaven.. are demons in Heaven that when you bind them on earth they will also be bound in Heaven? THINK! ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 10:49pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:So what then is in heaven that we are suppose to bind? What that passes means is that when we bind the demos, the heavens will act on our words and execute the binding. |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 11:02pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
CharisEleos:The "heavens" will act on your behalf? Did you really say that as one who believes in Jesus Christ? You attribute power now to the "heavens"? ![]() "Whatever you bind on earth is bound in Heaven" is legal language and last I checked, demons are not a part of the contract we have with God. In Acts 15, I believe, the disciples put together a bunch of commands for the Christians in the land of Canaan to live by in order that there is less friction between them and the Jews. That is an example of a contract that can be binding here on earth and in Heaven. ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 11:10pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:How did I shift the goal Post ? Your problem is you don't understand spiritual matters which you always dabbled into . A witch is a human being possessed with witchcrafts. Witchcrafts is the magical powers or satanic powers from evil spirits or demons to perpetrate evils. It is the demons of witchcrafts resident inside a person that makes the person a witch. A witch is working for the devil by the power of the demons in him or her . 2) When and where did I conjure a story about a special group out there made specially to target me ? Must you lie to make a point ? Beware for all liars will go to hell . AM I THE ONE THAT WROTE THE SCRIPTURES BELOW ? WHY DID GOD PUNISH THE WITCH BELOW? Acts 13:8-12 KJV But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. [9] Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, [10] And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? [11] And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. [12] Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord. Answer my questions and stop lying to coverup your spiritual ignorance . |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 11:29pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:What I mean by the heavens is God the farther, son and Holy Spirit. |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 11:38pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
enilove:1. According to the story above, we are told that the punishment leveled against the man had to do with the Spirit of God, not Paul, in much the same way that the punishment against Ananias and Saphira was also leveled against them by the Spirit of God and not Peter, meaning God , not men, judged them guilty in both cases of the crimes they committed. ![]() In both cases, we are not told that Paul or Peter acted out of hatred against these men,nor are we told that they acted against them either. Instead it is the Spirit of God inside of them that we are told passed judgment against those involved. ![]() 2. Also, Peter , and also Paul, did not need to pray to God in both cases, nor did they call down fire upon these men. The Spirit of God instead spoke His Judgment through them in each case. ![]() How does the above compare to your many prayers to the Father asking Him to kill those who stand against you. Are you suggesting in some way that what the Spirit of God didin tHe cases you highlight in the book of acts, compares to you using you asks to request God inflict evil on your fellow man? ![]() 3. As followers of Jesus Christ, we are called to love sinners, even those who work for the devil since that is what sinners all do... work for the devil. Where in the Bible does Jesus Christ provide you this exemption you continue to claim for your refusal to love even witches and wizards? ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 11:40pm On Jun 04, 2021 |
CharisEleos:Jesus Christ already told you what to do in order to receive when you pray(ask, seek, knock), so why would He need to use what amounts to legal language (Bind and loose) to tell you the very same things He has already taught you over and over about how to get your needs and desires met by God in His name? Think! ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 12:10am On Jun 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:he Ok. |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 12:11am On Jun 05, 2021 |
CharisEleos:that was a question ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by enilove(m): 12:46am On Jun 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Keep on twisting the Bible @kobotwister , God is warning you. Open your eyes and read carefully : Acts 5:7-10 KJV And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in. [8] And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much. [9] Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. [10] Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband. In verse 9 above ,it was Peter that decreed her death by saying ,'' behold the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door , and shall carry THEE out'' . WHAT ABOUT THAT OF PAUL ? Acts 13:10-11 KJV And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? [11] And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. Did Paul not show hatred towards Elymas by cursing him and calling him names as you read above ? He also decreed the kind of punishment he deserved . What Paul and Peter exhibited above is known as HOLY HATRED , which is allowed by God. The psalmist said : Psalm 139:21-22 KJV Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? [22] I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. Paul and Peter showed they hate those who hate the Lord with perfect hatred . You said it was the spirit of God that killed them isn't it ? That means God killed them. Do you have love more than God who killed them ? Lastly , stop saying what I did not say. When did I say God should kill anyone who stands against me ? We are talking about the witchcrafts powers and not the humans . |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 1:42am On Jun 05, 2021*. Modified: 2:47am On Jun 05, 2021 |
enilove:You know what? ![]() SInce taking to comprehending that which is written in human language and easily grasped that way, mind you, amounts to "twisting" the Bible, then I am afraid you are right that I am not as "spiritual" as you have become in these things. ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 4:16am On Jun 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Oops.. I drifted into sleep. I don't understand that question o. Simplify it. |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 7:58am On Jun 05, 2021 |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 3:17pm On Jun 05, 2021 |
CharisEleos:Please stop regurgitating the wisdom fed you by men. Instead ask God to help you use the understanding He has already given you so that He can give you more when you do. ![]() It is hard going against the grain, but be sure that God will never lower His standard to go with what the multitudes say and believe instead. ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 3:36pm On Jun 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:You've started. Why are you saying this? Where and how did I say what men fed me with? I only stated what is in the Bible ( suffer not the witch to live) and you took it to a whole new level by explaining it was Moses' teachings and not Christs' to which I said ok because I was trying to make some sense out of it before you came up what your question about "legal language of loose and bind" ... which was not clear to me and now this... Abeg I just dey wake up now and I'm weak. I nor get your strength. |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 3:45pm On Jun 05, 2021 |
CharisEleos:1. Is Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 also in your Bible? Yes, that part which tells you that you are not included in God's plan for Israel? ![]() 2. Did Jesus Christ Himself not make it clear that "Binding and loosening" had to do with impacting that with is in Heaven by your actions here on earth and since demons and witches aren't in Heaven, what meaning is there to gained from your supposed "bind and loose" of them as is the tradition in your churches and homes? All of these were taught you by men and not by God cause God never taught anyone to "bind and loose" demons and witches. ![]() |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 3:57pm On Jun 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:ok. ive heard you and this brings me back to my first question to this your question before the merry-go-rounding. So, what are those things in heaven we are only allowed to " bind and loose with our actions here on earth"? |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 4:02pm On Jun 05, 2021 |
CharisEleos:1. "Bind and loose" is of legal language. You bind a person for example to a yoke or agreement or your loose a person from a contract or agreement. ![]() 2. I mentioned the example in the book of Acts 15, where the apostles decided on 4 additional rules that Christians living within the land of Canaan should live by in order to avoid friction between them and their Jewish others. ![]() 3. Since God gave them that power to bind and loose stipulating that it would also be binding and loosening in Heaven, that probably means that the same rules will be applied in Heaven to those who are bound to it. |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Nobody: 4:13pm On Jun 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Oh... I see. Ehen! Na now you come. "Tisha" of the word. .So, it's talking about binding to laws and setting free from laws that are meant to guide them as children of God per time? Ok, now I understand. Gracias! |
| Re: That Witch Supervising And Hindering Your Progress Must Die Today. by Kobojunkie: 4:16pm On Jun 05, 2021 |
CharisEleos:So you tell me why you bind and loose demons and witches next. ![]() |
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