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A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by AntiChristian: 6:20pm On Feb 21, 2022
Jesus has no father as claimed by the Bible but there exists two genealogy for him in the Bible.

Genealogy 1 from Matthew 1-6-16

King David.
to Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah’s wife, (remember Uriah, that woman whom David killed his husband and forcefully marries)
to Rehoboam,
to Abijah,
to Asa,
to Jehoshaphat,
to Jehoram,
to Uzziah,
to Jotham,
to Ahaz,
to Hezekiah,
to Manasseh,
to Amon,
to Josiah,
to Jeconiah to Shealtiel,
to Zerubbabel,
to Abihud,
to Eliakim,
to Azor,
to Zadok,
to Akim,
to Elihud,
to Eleazar,
to Matthan,
to Jacob,
to Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.

Here Jesus had about 25 Ancestors to David through his father Joseph! No Mary in the Equation

Genealogy 2 from Luke 3-23-31


Joseph

to Heli to Matthat

to Levi to Melki

to Jannai to Joseph

to Mattathias to Amos

to Nahum to Esli

to Naggai to Maath

to Mattathias to Semein

to Josek to Joda

to Joanan to Rhesa

to Zerubbabel to Shealtiel

to Neri to Melki

to Addi to Cosam

to Elmadam to Er

to Joshua to Eliezer

to Jorim, to Matthat

to Levi to Simeon

to Judah to Joseph

to Jonam to Eliakim

to Melea to Menna

to Mattatha to Nathan

to David.

Here Jesus had 41 Ancestors to David through his father Joseph! No Mary in the Equation

No how does Jesus who has no father gets 25 Ancestors from David to Joseph in Mathew and 41 Ancestors from David to Joseph in Luke?

Different names only Joseph is common to the two lists!

Jesus was the son of Mary appropriately!
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by Flexherbal(m): 6:22pm On Feb 21, 2022
Hmmm
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by FERNANDEZISBACK: 6:28pm On Feb 21, 2022
It's too clear that the Bible book was written by men with agenda to control others(gullible ones)..

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Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by MrBrownJay1(m): 6:36pm On Feb 21, 2022
anyone who wants to believe anything written in this evil contradictory book called bible, is on their own!

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Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by cornelboy(f): 6:41pm On Feb 21, 2022
Nobody claimed that Jesus didn't have a earthly father. But he had a miraculous birth.
Even the Koran is clear on this.


AntiChristian:
Jesus has no father as claimed by the Bible but there exists two genealogy for him in the Bible.

Genealogy 1 from Matthew 1-6-16

King David.
to Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah’s wife, (remember Uriah, that woman whom David killed his husband and forcefully marries)
to Rehoboam,
to Abijah,
to Asa,
to Jehoshaphat,
to Jehoram,
to Uzziah,
to Jotham,
to Ahaz,
to Hezekiah,
to Manasseh,
to Amon,
to Josiah,
to Jeconiah to Shealtiel,
to Zerubbabel,
to Abihud,
to Eliakim,
to Azor,
to Zadok,
to Akim,
to Elihud,
to Eleazar,
to Matthan,
to Jacob,
to Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.

Here Jesus had about 25 Ancestors to David through his father Joseph! No Mary in the Equation

Genealogy 2 from Luke 3-23-31


Joseph

to Heli to Matthat

to Levi to Melki

to Jannai to Joseph

to Mattathias to Amos

to Nahum to Esli

to Naggai to Maath

to Mattathias to Semein

to Josek to Joda

to Joanan to Rhesa

to Zerubbabel to Shealtiel

to Neri to Melki

to Addi to Cosam

to Elmadam to Er

to Joshua to Eliezer

to Jorim, to Matthat

to Levi to Simeon

to Judah to Joseph

to Jonam to Eliakim

to Melea to Menna

to Mattatha to Nathan

to David.

Here Jesus had 41 Ancestors to David through his father Joseph! No Mary in the Equation

No how does Jesus who has no father gets 16 Ancestors from David to Joseph in Mathew and 41 Ancestors from David to Joseph in Luke?

Different names only Joseph is common to the two lists!



Where did the bible claim that Jesus didn't have a Father?
He even have two Fathers. An earthly father and a heavenly Father smiley
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by Nobody: 6:56pm On Feb 21, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:
It's too clear that the Bible book was written my men with agenda to control others(gullible ones)..

The Jews are smart not to accept Jesus as they know He was a Roman creation. Some of the Old Testament and The 10 commandments are what we needed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

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Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by cornelboy(f): 7:41pm On Feb 21, 2022
The Jews expected the Messiah to be a powerful king that would defeat the Romans.
But when Jesus came as an humble man and preached another kingdom and his teachings oppose those of the pharisees, they couldn't accept him.

MindHacker9000:


The Jews are smart not to accept Jesus as they know He was a Roman creation. Some of the Old Testament and The 10 commandments are what we needed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:46pm On Feb 21, 2022
cornelboy:
The Jews expected the Messiah to be a powerful king that would defeat the Romans.
But when Jesus came as an humble man and preached another kingdom and his teachings oppose those of the pharisees, they couldn't accept him.
Let whoever wants Jesus Christ out of the way present a better performing Christ {Messiah} in the absence of that whatever they're saying is GIBBERISH! smiley

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Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by Nobody: 8:18pm On Feb 21, 2022
cornelboy:
The Jews expected the Messiah to be a powerful king that would defeat the Romans.
But when Jesus came as an humble man and preached another kingdom and his teachings oppose those of the pharisees, they couldn't accept him.

Jesus is a Roman creation and not a Messiah. Your FAKE Messiah that promised to come back immediately after the destruction of Judea and the Temple and for the sake of the elect but has not shown up for over 2000 years now.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

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Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by cornelboy(f): 8:34pm On Feb 21, 2022
MindHacker9000:


Jesus is a Roman creation and not a Messiah. Your FAKE Messiah that promised to come back immediately after the destruction of Judea and the Temple and for the sake of the elect but has not shown up for over 2000 years now.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

Jesus said he doesn't know the time he would come back only the Father in heaven
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by Nobody: 8:42pm On Feb 21, 2022
cornelboy:

Jesus said he doesn't know the time he would come back only the Father in heaven

Then read Matthew below. Jesus said He would return “Immediately after the distress of those days" and that was the destruction of Judea in 66 AD and the destruction of the Temple 70 AD. But your FAKE Messiah knew He would rise in 3 day and he did in less than 3 days but to come back which cannot be faked He has not shown up for over 2000 years. Are you being paid to continue to SCAM?

Matthew:
16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“ ‘the sun will be darkened,

and the moon will not give its light;

the stars will fall from the sky,

and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ b

30“ Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. d 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

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Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by Nobody: 8:47pm On Feb 21, 2022
cornelboy:

Jesus said he doesn't know the time he would come back only the Father in heaven

Then read Matthew below. Jesus said He would return “Immediately after the distress of those days" and that was the destruction of Judea in 66 AD and the destruction of the Temple 70 AD. But you FAKE Messiah knew He would rise in 3 day and he did in less than 3 days but to come back which cannot be faked He has not shown up for over 2000 year. Are you being paid to continue this SCAM?

Matthew:
16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“ ‘the sun will be darkened,

and the moon will not give its light;

the stars will fall from the sky,

and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ b

30“ Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. d 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

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Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by cornelboy(f): 8:53pm On Feb 21, 2022
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days
“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ b

When these event happens and Jesus didn't come back then we can be sure that Jesus was lying.
MindHacker9000:


Then read Matthew below. Jesus said He would return “Immediately after the distress of those days" and that was the destruction of Judea in 66 AD and the destruction of the Temple 70 AD. But you FAKE Messiah knew He would rise in 3 day and he did in less than 3 days but to come back which cannot be faked He has not shown up for over 2000 year. Are you being paid to continue this SCAM?

Matthew:
16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“ ‘the sun will be darkened,

and the moon will not give its light;

the stars will fall from the sky,

and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ b

30“ Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. d 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

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Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by Nobody: 9:06pm On Feb 21, 2022
cornelboy:

When these event happens and Jesus didn't come back then we can be sure that Jesus was lying.

Then read Matthew below again. Jesus said He would return “Immediately after the distress of those days" and that was the destruction of Judea in 66 AD and the destruction of the Temple 70 AD. But you FAKE Messiah knew He would rise in 3 day and he did in less than 3 days but to come back which cannot be faked He has not shown up for over 2000 year. Are you being paid to continue to SCAM?

Matthew:
16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“ ‘the sun will be darkened,

and the moon will not give its light;

the stars will fall from the sky,

and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ b

30“ Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. d 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

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Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by AntiChristian: 5:47am On Feb 22, 2022
cornelboy:
Nobody claimed that Jesus didn't have a earthly father. But he had a miraculous birth.
Even the Koran is clear on this.

Why cover what is open? The Bible tried twice to prove Jesus was related to David from Joseph by blood in two different genealogy. The Qu'ran doesn't have these. Jesus is the son of Mary. You should see that all these false stories about Lot, Jacob, Judah, Jesus, etc does not exist in the Qu'ran.

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Where did the bible claim that Jesus didn't have a Father?
He even have two Fathers. An earthly father and a heavenly Father smiley

Who is Jesus father by blood? Jesus had no father as the Angel came to Mary.
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by GreatAxeMan: 8:21am On Feb 22, 2022
So it is not normal for a person to have his father's genealogy and his mother's genealogy?
The stupidity of the illiterate child rapist prophet on full display again!

AntiChristian:


Why cover what is open? The Bible tried twice to prove Jesus was related to David from Joseph by blood in two different genealogy. The Qu'ran doesn't have these. Jesus is the son of Mary. You should see that all these false stories about Lot, Jacob, Judah, Jesus, etc does not exist in the Qu'ran.



Who is Jesus father by blood? Jesus had no father as the Angel came to Mary.

Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by GreatAxeMan: 8:24am On Feb 22, 2022
These scriptures refer to the tribulation times.

It is the arrival of the man of sin/son of perdition/antichrist which marks the beginning of tribulation period and not the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem.



MindHacker9000:


Then read Matthew below. Jesus said He would return “Immediately after the distress of those days" and that was the destruction of Judea in 66 AD and the destruction of the Temple 70 AD. But you FAKE Messiah knew He would rise in 3 day and he did in less than 3 days but to come back which cannot be faked He has not shown up for over 2000 year. Are you being paid to continue this SCAM?

Matthew:
16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“ ‘the sun will be darkened,

and the moon will not give its light;

the stars will fall from the sky,

and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ b

30“ Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. d 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by AntiChristian: 8:50am On Feb 22, 2022
GreatAxeMan:
So it is not normal for a person to have his father's genealogy and his mother's genealogy?
The stupidity of the illiterate child rapist prophet on full display again!


1.Who is Jesus's biological father?

2. What is Jesus's Genealogy to David?
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by Nobody: 9:23am On Feb 22, 2022
GreatAxeMan:
These scriptures refer to the tribulation times.

It is the arrival of the man of sin/son of perdition/antichrist which marks the beginning of tribulation period and not the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem.

Shows you cannot even understand what was written in Matthews below:

Jesus said He would return “Immediately after the distress of those days" and that was the destruction of Judea in 66 AD and the destruction of the Temple 70 AD. But you FAKE Messiah knew He would rise in 3 day and he did in less than 3 days but to come back which cannot be faked He has not shown up for over 2000 year. Are you being paid to continue this SCAM?

Matthew:
16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“ ‘the sun will be darkened,

and the moon will not give its light;

the stars will fall from the sky,

and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ b

30“ Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. d 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by cornelboy(f): 10:25pm On Feb 22, 2022
Baba go sleep cheesy
Why did Allah and Mohammed copy from a corrupted Bible?

The Koran that claims to be clear and fully explained and detailed but in reality incomplete and full of gibberish. Koram, Mohammed, Allah are liars!

Tell me, without not for the Bible how would you know who existed first between Moses and Joseph?

It's a fact ask anybody, Mohammed copied stories from the BIBLE.
https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/why-are-the-genealogical-records-for-jesus-different-in-matthew-and-luke/

AntiChristian:


Why cover what is open? The Bible tried twice to prove Jesus was related to David from Joseph by blood in two different genealogy. The Qu'ran doesn't have these. Jesus is the son of Mary. You should see that all these false stories about Lot, Jacob, Judah, Jesus, etc does not exist in the Qu'ran.



Who is Jesus father by blood? Jesus had no father as the Angel came to Mary.

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Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by Nobody: 10:41pm On Feb 22, 2022
Moses is the only true prophet of GOD. Chritianity copied from the Old Testament and Islam also copied from both books.
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by AntiChristian: 9:04am On Feb 23, 2022
cornelboy:
Baba go sleep cheesy
Why did Allah and Mohammed copy from a corrupted Bible?

The Koran that claims to be clear and fully explained and detailed but in reality incomplete and full of gibberish. Koram, Mohammed, Allah are liars!

Tell me, without not for the Bible how would you know who existed first between Moses and Joseph?

It's a fact ask anybody, Mohammed copied stories from the BIBLE.
https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/why-are-the-genealogical-records-for-jesus-different-in-matthew-and-luke/


Did the Qur'an mention the genecology of Jesus like the Bible?
The Qur'an never gave Jesus a father like your Bible. Jesus was called son of Mary in the Qur'an.

Why the diversion again!

Where did the Bible get 2 sets of different ancestors for Jesus?
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by cornelboy(f): 8:02am On Feb 25, 2022
AntiChristian:


Did the Qur'an mention the genecology of Jesus like the Bible?
The Qur'an never gave Jesus a father like your Bible. Jesus was called son of Mary in the Qur'an.

Why the diversion again!

Where did the Bible get 2 sets of different ancestors for Jesus?

The problem with you is that you try to place the koran over the BIBLE. You know that's pride right?

Why would Koran mention it? Jesus was a Jew not an Arab. The Koran was supposed to be a revelation from your God, the BIBLE is not entirely like that. It contains real events that happened and was recorded.

The Matthew's genealogy was for Joseph (he practically fathered Jesus from baby to aldult). Sorry that the all glorious koran didn't mention it.
While the genealogy of Luke is for Mary mother of Jesus. It's found in Jewish Talmud that Heli was the father of Mary.

Now if i asked you who came first between Noah and Moses, how would you know from the koran?
My point is koran ain't complete. You can't everything from it.
If the Koran is the guidance for mankind, show me the verse where it explicitly command against homosexuality, lesbianism and bestiality?
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by Nobody: 8:06am On Feb 25, 2022
AntiChristian:
Jesus has no father as claimed by the Bible but there exists two genealogy for him in the Bible.


Out of curiosity, where in the Bible does it say Jesus has no father?

I know Hebrews 7:3 affirms of Melchizedek: "He is without father or mother or genealogy so I'd like to see where it is affirmed of Jesus. Thank you.
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by AntiChristian: 8:56am On Feb 25, 2022
PastorMIsBack:


Out of curiosity, where in the Bible does it say Jesus has no father?

I know Hebrews 7:3 affirms of Melchizedek: "He is without father or mother or genealogy so I'd like to see where it is affirmed of Jesus. Thank you.

We all have a father and Mother.
Jesus had no father but had a mother.
Eve was created from Adam.
Adam had no Parents.

Luke 1:26-38

The Angel Gabriel Comes to Mary

26 Six months after Elizabeth had become pregnant, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a city in Galilee. 27 The angel went to a virgin promised in marriage to a descendant of David named Joseph. The virgin’s name was Mary.

28 When the angel entered her home, he greeted her and said, “You are favored by the Lord! The Lord is with you.”

29 She was startled by what the angel said and tried to figure out what this greeting meant.

30 The angel told her,

“Don’t be afraid, Mary. You have found favor  with God.
31 You will become pregnant, give birth to a son,
and name him Jesus.
32 He will be a great man
and will be called the Son of the Most High.
The Lord God will give him
the throne of his ancestor David.
33 Your son will be king of Jacob’s people forever,
and his kingdom will never end.”
34 Mary asked the angel, “How can this be? I’m a virgin.”

35 The angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come to you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore, the holy child developing inside you will be called the Son of God.

36 “Elizabeth, your relative, is six months pregnant with a son in her old age. People said she couldn’t have a child. 37 But nothing is impossible for God.”

38 Mary answered, “I am the Lord’s servant. Let everything you’ve said happen to me.”

Then the angel left her.
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by Nobody: 9:14am On Feb 25, 2022
AntiChristian:


We all have a father and Mother.
Jesus had no father but had a mother.
Eve was created from Adam.
Adam had no Parents.


Okay, so the Bible did not claim as you said here. It's just what you've drawn out.

AntiChristian:
Jesus has no father [b]as claimed by the Bible but there exists two genealogy for him in the Bible.[/b]

Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:19am On Feb 25, 2022
There are two disciples of Jesus that recorded details of his genealogy: Matthew and Luke.

Matthew laid emphasis on the common idea of first century Jews who often regarding any man or woman as son or daughter to their in-laws so Matthew's record of Jesus' birth talks about Joseph being the son of Mary's father hence the child that comes out of that marriage becomes his responsibility, that's why Joseph adopted Jesus as his own Son and taught him his own craft: Carpentry.


Luke laid emphasis on Joseph's genealogy as being the foster father of Jesus. So that's why the lineage differs in some areas but since both Joseph and Mary are from David's lineage you will find out that they both came from the same ancestors. undecided
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by AntiChristian: 9:23am On Feb 25, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
There are two disciples of Jesus that recorded details of his genealogy: Matthew and Luke.

Matthew laid emphasis on the common idea of first century Jews who often regarding any man or woman as son or daughter to their in-laws so Matthew's record of Jesus' birth talks about Joseph being the son of Mary's father hence the child that comes out of that marriage becomes his responsibility, that's why Joseph adopted Jesus as his own Son and taught him his own craft: Carpentry.


Luke laid emphasis on Joseph's genealogy as being the foster father of Jesus. So that's why the lineage differs in some areas but since both Joseph and Mary are from David's lineage you will find out that they both came from the same ancestors. undecided

Jesus had no father. This means he should have no genealogy. He is the son of Mary only.
How can Matthew Jesus's acclaimed disciple include in-laws or relatives in Jesus's genealogy? Was Jesus related to Joseph by blood?
No matter the way you look at it this is a big blunder! undecided

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Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by AntiChristian: 9:26am On Feb 25, 2022
PastorMIsBack:


Okay, so the Bible did not claim as you said here. It's just what you've drawn out.


The Bible mentioned Mary as his mother and the Angel met Mary announcing his birth without a father!

Did you even read the last Bible verses?
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by GreatAxeMan: 9:28am On Feb 25, 2022
Yes, Jesus was related to Joseph by blood.
The Messiah was promised from the lineage of the House of David and Joseph was a direct descendant of David.
Jesus owed His human nature to both of His parents and not just one of them, while at the same time He also had His Divine uncreated nature as part of God's identity.

AntiChristian:


Jesus had no father. This means he should have no genealogy. He is the son of Mary only.
How can Matthew Jesus's acclaimed disciple include in-laws or relatives in Jesus's genealogy? Was Jesus related to Joseph by blood?
No matter the way you look at it this is a big blunder! undecided
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by Nobody: 9:28am On Feb 25, 2022
AntiChristian:


The Bible mentioned Mary as his mother and the Angel met Mary announcing his birth without a father!

Did you even read the last Bible verses?

I read EVERYTHING you wrote and it does not CLAIM that Jesus had no father!
Re: A Fatherless Man With Two Completely Different Genealogy by AntiChristian: 9:29am On Feb 25, 2022
PastorMIsBack:


I read EVERYTHING you wrote and it does not CLAIM that Jesus had no father!

Sorry you can bring where he had a father as Mary was mentioned?

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