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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Elvictor: 11:17pm On Jun 11, 2021
Igboid:


Few places there for traditional wedding.
Ihugobo or something.

And they showed resentment?
Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Igboid: 11:18pm On Jun 11, 2021
Elvictor:


Ekpeye, don't hate Igbos. Stop going to all those useless facebook groups. Have you been to Ekpeyeland?

Yes I have.
But never had time to interact with the indigenes.
Came to the wedding late and left quickly.

So couldn't guage the feelings of the people towards Ndiigbo.
I think I would have to reschedule a visit there and get to interact with the commoners to learn more.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Eastlink(m): 11:19pm On Jun 11, 2021
If the purpose of this thread to to educate people fine, but if the purpose is to denigrate those you claim as yours, then it's a big shame for me to associate myself with dafts like you guys. All of a sudden, you used your hand to derail the thread you created by simply taken a swipe at your so-called brothers.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Elvictor: 11:19pm On Jun 11, 2021
Igboid:


True.
A wise person would take whatever offer at hand currently and negotiate later.
Ojukwu refused the USSR offer in 1960s, looking for a perfect offer that never came. With hindsight, we know he was wrong.

What I'm saying is that knowing IPOB and MNK, if groups from these Igbo speaking parts of SS don't come out openly and disgrace and denounce any link with SE, MNK and IPOB will never get the message or smell the coffee that these lots are not interested.

Someone like Osinakachukwu Ideozu coming out to denounce Biafra on behalf of Ekpeye would make alot of sense and help MNK make up his mind on SE Biafra fast.

grin grin grin
Osy, won't try that, he will be roasted.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Elvictor: 11:21pm On Jun 11, 2021
Igboid:


Ekpeye is suffering from Eze crisis.

Every single village in Ekpeye now has an Eze and they are all fighting among themselves.

Meanwhile, despite having the first lady of Rivers State, Eberechi Suzanne, Wike's wife. Ekpeyeland is pretty much neglected in Rivers State like Obiigbo.
The place is starved of any tangible development. It's a pity.

Where are you getting all these news? Ekpeye, you can remember there was Ahoada District?
Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Elvictor: 11:23pm On Jun 11, 2021
Igboid:


Yes I have.
But never had time to interact with the indigenes.
Came to the wedding late and left quickly.

So couldn't guage the feelings of the people towards Ndiigbo.
I think I would have to reschedule a visit there and get to interact with the commoners to learn more.

So, you don't see Igbos living freely? Smh... You just painted my people in bad light. If not of the crisis of 2017, Igbos were everywhere in Ekpeyeland. The crisis even made indigenes to run away.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Elvictor: 11:24pm On Jun 11, 2021
Eastlink:
If the purpose of this thread to to educate people fine, but if the purpose is to denigrate those you claim as yours, then it's a big shame for me to associate myself with dafts like you guys. All of a sudden, you used your hand to derail the thread you created by simply taken a swipe at your so-called brothers.

I was the one that created the thread, what are u even insinuating oga?
Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Igboid: 11:26pm On Jun 11, 2021
Elvictor:


grin grin grin
Osy, won't try that, he will be roasted.

What's Osinakachukwu Ideozu up to these days.
I had high hopes for him, I thought he was going to be a big shot.
I felt he was a bit Igbophilic. I think if we had an undercover Igbo think tank, people like him would have been recruited years ago and sponsored to even take over RVSG or rise to Senate position and even rise high in FG ( ministerial position) as a big undercover asset for Ndiigbo.
His political career just fizzled out. What a shame.

And there was Ikerechi Douglas too. That one is missing in action too.

I use to keep tabs on Ekpeye politics and all but lost interest at a point as I felt they were going the way of Ikwerre and Ogba.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Igboid: 11:29pm On Jun 11, 2021
Elvictor:


So, you don't see Igbos living freely? Smh... You just painted my people in bad light. If not of the crisis of 2017, Igbos were everywhere in Ekpeyeland. The crisis even made indigenes to run away.

Nnaa Igbos are everywhere in the world.

I went to Gusau Zamfara last year and to my surprise, Igbos full town.
I ate correct ofe Ora at an Igbo shop. Even. Locals have become addicted to the woman Igbo dishes.

If Ekpeye people have not gone Igbophobic like Ikwerre and Ogba, then I'm glad to hear it.
Good on you.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Eastlink(m): 11:30pm On Jun 11, 2021
What many of you people fail to understand is that ever since the rise of IPOB/MASSOB and Biafran apologist like Nnamdi Kanu, the division you seek to mend in Igboland has widened under your care. The earlier you guys understand that you're making things worst the better for you.

Biafra should not be exchanged with Ndigbo. I for instance will never support any useless Biafra for reasons I've stated in the past. I rather remain in Nigeria than go with Biafra, but that doesn't mean I won't defend my ethnic group.

Before MASSOB rejuvenated this faulty enterprise called Biafra, Ndigbo were gradually mending fences naturally. Anioma were calling for a state to be merged to the South-East, while we were calling for our own Orashi to be merged with Orlu zone to form the 7th Igbo state. But everything seems to be thrown to the dogs all thanks to IPOB illiterates who have helped used their daftness to spoil it all.

The same way the daft Bkay and his illiterate likes look for trouble where is none, is the same way you IPOB clowns go to Ekpeye, Ndoni, Ika, Ethce groups and the rest to talk about Biafra, even going as far as insult the indigenes in their own group. Have you visited these communities before to gauge their attitudes? Do you know if they are more pro-Igbo than even you making noise online? You guys need to be careful before you foolishly throw the baby with the bath water.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by BKayy: 11:30pm On Jun 11, 2021
Eastlink:
It's obvious you've taken your IPOB codeine that makes you to spew nonsense. Some of you He-Goats will wake up from sleep and be making things worst for yourselves. What is the meaning of the trash you posted up there? If it's not madness I don't know what else you'll call it.
I don't engage fools at night

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by SocialJustice: 11:32pm On Jun 11, 2021
Too many useless IPOB threads popping up here since twitter ban.
Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Elvictor: 11:33pm On Jun 11, 2021
Igboid:


What's Osinakachukwu Ideozu up to these days.
I had high hopes for him, I thought he was going to be a big shot.
I felt he was a bit Igbophilic. I think if we had an undercover Igbo think tank, people like him would have been recruited years ago and sponsored to even take over RVSG and even rise high in FG as a big undercover asset for Ndiigbo.
His political career just fizzled out. What a shame.

And there was Ikerechi Douglas too. That one is missing in action too.

I use to keep tabs on Ekpeye politics and all but lost interest at a point as I felt they were going the way of Ikwerre and Ogba.

Ekpeye people are not actually power hungry and are not very keen on politics, Osy stepped down from Senate and hand over to the female senator representing my senatorial district from Abua/Odual.
Ekpeye people are very indifferent, you should keep tabs keenly. You can hardly differentiate Ekpeye persom from those two tribes you mentioned.
Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Igboid: 11:33pm On Jun 11, 2021
Eastlink:
What many if you people fail to understand is that ever since the rise of IPOB/MASSOB and Biafran apologist like Nnamdi Kanu, the division you seek to mend in Igboland has widened under your care. The earlier you guys understand that you're making things worst the better for you.

Biafra should not be exchanged with Ndigbo. I for instance will never support any useless Biafra for reasons I've stated in the past. I rather remain in Nigeria than go with Biafra, but that doesn't mean I won't defend my ethnic group.

Before MASSOB rejuvenated this faulty enterprise called Biafra, Ndigbo were gradually mending fences naturally. Anioma were calling for a state to be merged to the South-East, while we were calling for our own Orashi to be merged with Orlu zone to form the 7th Igbo state. But everything seems to be thrown to the dogs all thanks to IPOB illiterates who have helped used their daftness to spoil it all.

Well, Biafra is Igbo and Igbo is BIAFRA, irrespective of IPOB delusions of Multiethnic BIAFRA.
That version of BIAFRA exists only in their dreams.
If your Egbema Rivers people would choose NIGERIA over BIAFRA, then we would wish you luck and move on.

Biafra must be established. Igbo speaking groups who don't want to be part of it can stay behind in Nigeria.
Nsogbu adiro!

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by BKayy: 11:35pm On Jun 11, 2021
Igboid:


True.
A wise person would take whatever offer at hand currently and negotiate later.
Ojukwu refused the USSR offer in 1960s, looking for a perfect offer that never came. With hindsight, we know he was wrong.

What I'm saying is that knowing IPOB and MNK, if groups from these Igbo speaking parts of SS don't come out openly and disgrace and denounce any link with SE, MNK and IPOB will never get the message or smell the coffee that these lots are not interested.

Someone like Osinakachukwu Ideozu coming out to denounce Biafra on behalf of Ekpeye would make alot of sense and help MNK make up his mind on SE Biafra fast.
Anyway they want to do it.
This is the time we need their favorite hate. Can you believe that at this critical time, especially this afternoon when we need the usual hate from the "SS Igbo" on MNK page, none of them were found. When the SS and SE trend was going on, none of them came.
These guys should help MNK make the decision.
One of us should go and establish a base first, then others can come.
An established country that is a member of UN will go a long way in helping others

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Igboid: 11:39pm On Jun 11, 2021
Elvictor:


Ekpeye people are not actually power hungry and are not very keen on politics, Osy stepped down from Senate and hand over to the female senator representing my senatorial district from Abua/Odual.
Ekpeye people are very indifferent, you should keep tabs keenly. You can hardly differentiate Ekpeye persom from those two tribes you mentioned.

Osinakachukwu Ideozu no try if that is the truth.
Maka why should he step down nah undecided

Yes, Ekpeye people are laid back.

I like your Ogbumadube masquerade. grin
Very interesting masquerade. I haven't seen it live though.
Next time I would visit Ekpeye I would time my visit to your masquerade season.
Which town in Ekpeye are you from?

Abua/Odual people are supposed to be Edoid speakers and independent minority group, like the Engenni and Udekeme (Degema).
All these people speak distinct Edoid languages,yet somehow, Ijaws have used the lure of crude oil politics (oil protection deals contract) that they are in charge of to attract them into joining INC and IYC, thereby swelling Ijaw numbers.

What do your Abua/Odual friends feel about their newly acquired Ijaw political tag?

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by BKayy: 11:41pm On Jun 11, 2021
Igboid:


Well, Biafra is Igbo and Igbo is BIAFRA, irrespective of IPOB delusions of Multiethnic BIAFRA.
That version of BIAFRA exists only in their dreams.
If your Egbema Rivers people would choose NIGERIA over BIAFRA, then we would wish you luck and move on.

Biafra must be established. Igbo speaking groups who don't want to be part of it can stay behind in Nigeria.
Nsogbu adiro!
As simple as that. A country that represents Ndigbo must come out of Nigeria anyhow it is.
This is no longer the time for identity revision, this is time for serious business.
An offer has been proposed and I say "we take it"

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Eastlink(m): 11:45pm On Jun 11, 2021
Igboid:


Well, Biafra is Igbo and Igbo is BIAFRA, irrespective of IPOB delusions of Multiethnic BIAFRA.
That version of BIAFRA exists only in their dreams.
If your Egbema Rivers people would choose NIGERIA over BIAFRA, then we would wish you luck and move on.

Biafra must be established. Igbo speaking groups who don't want to be part of it can stay behind in Nigeria.
Nsogbu adiro!
Biafra is not Igbo. It was never Igbo from day one. Historically it was all about the Eastern region and never about Ndigbo as an ethnic group? Did Ojukwu add Anioma to Biafra? Did Ojukwu add Kogi and Benue Igbos to Biafra, absolutely No.

Nnamdi Kanu the fake Ojukwu is worst than those who made the same mistakes. Is Kanu speaking for Ndigbo, No? Does Kanu care for Ndigbo? No. Does Kanu understand Ndigbo apart from his one-sided Biafra, No? If you ask Kanu the meaning of Biafra, he'll foolishly add up areas to satisfy his landgrabbing tendencies.

The earlier we understand our plight as Igbos and begin to think with our senses, a lot will change for us. The earlier we dump that fraudster Kanu and get a politically conscious charismatic Igbo that understands diplomacy and tact, someone like Zik but a pan-Igbo a lot will change

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Eastlink(m): 11:47pm On Jun 11, 2021
Elvictor:


I was the one that created the thread, what are u even insinuating oga?
You created a thread, but you allowed IPOB goon called Bkay to derail it. Did you see the nonsense the guy posted about my community.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Igboid: 11:54pm On Jun 11, 2021
Eastlink:
Biafra is not Igbo. It was never Igbo from day one. Historically it was all about the Eastern region and never about Ndigbo as an ethnic group? Did Ojukwu add Anioma to Biafra? Did Ojukwu add Kogi and Benue Igbos to Biafra, absolutely No.

Nnamdi Kanu the fake Ojukwu is worst than those who made the same mistakes. Is Kanu speaking for Ndigbo, No? Does Kanu care for Ndigbo? No. Does Kanu understand Ndigbo apart from his one-sided Biafra, No? If you ask Kanu the meaning of Biafra, he'll foolishly add up areas to satisfy his landgrabbing tendencies.

The earlier we understand our plight as Igbos and begin to think with our senses, a lot will change for us. The earlier we dump that fraudster Kanu and get a politically conscious charismatic Igbo that understands diplomacy and tact, someone like Zik but a pan-Igbo a lot will change

Nnaa. There is no type of politics we an play with Islamic fanatics in North and still remain progressive as a people.
Zik tried it and failed.

Islam as a law made it that non Muslims must not rule over Muslims.

Our life outlook is totally divergent with those of the North and to some extent with those of SW and minorities as well.

Ndiigbo should naturally have a nation of our own. Which we can model after our own ideology and life outlook. Maybe we can admit smaller friendly minorities that share similar ideology with us like the Yako, Ekoi, etc in Northern Cross River as confederation arrangement.
Or we can just go at it alone.
Which ever way would be fine.

Zik experiment failed and should never be repeated.
NIGERIA is a failed experiment as far as Ndiigbo are concerned. It's like our vomitus that we must not re swallow, we must move on unto better things.

When I say BIAFRA, I don't mean EASTERN region. I mean republic of Igboland composing of SE and any other willing Igbo speaking groups.

Don't get it confused.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by BKayy: 12:02am On Jun 12, 2021
Eastlink:
You created a thread, but you allowed IPOB goon called Bkay to derail it. Did you see the nonsense the guy posted about my community.
Mpama, which one is your community?
The era of myopic identity revision has ended
We are in a serious and critical time. Don't distract

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by blues234: 12:09am On Jun 12, 2021
BKayy:

I don't engage fools at night
you just type without thinking, you this guy. tue!
Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Elliot2(m): 12:12am On Jun 12, 2021
The only reason why I dumped my immediate ex gf even though we dated less than a month was because I called her my Igbo and Biafra wife to be, but she said that she ain't Igbo, rather etche and that she doesn't support their nonsense Biafra clamours. Yet her name was chinyere. I couldn't stomach such stupidity. Even though my great great-grand father's mother was from Nsukka, that is not just the bases for my love for the Igbo people and Biafra as an ideology. I can't reason with people who don't support Biafra after seeing the unworkable system of this country. It is worse if you have an Igbo ancestry and history yet you deny your true heritage. It is messed up thinking.
I just wish MNK is serious about the pressure put on him to accept the 5 eastern states and perhaps the few other areas that openly support our movements, to accept those conditions and move on. No need to trying to wake someone who is pretending to be asleep. Whoever doesn't want to leave with Biafra can stay with one Nigeria.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Eastlink(m): 12:12am On Jun 12, 2021
Igboid:


Nnaa. There is no type of politics we an play with Islamic fanatics in North and still remain progressive as a people.
Zik tried it and failed.

Islam as a law made it that non Muslims must not rule over Muslims.

Our life outlook is totally divergent with those of the North and to some extent with those of SW and minorities as well.

Ndiigbo should naturally have a nation of our own. Which we can model after our own ideology and life outlook. Maybe we can admit smaller friendly minorities that share similar ideology with us like the Yako, Ekoi, etc in Northern Cross River as confederation arrangement.
Or we can just go at it alone.
Which ever way would be fine.

Zik experiment failed and should never be repeated.
NIGERIA is a failed experiment as far as Ndiigbo are concerned. It's like our vomitus that we must not re swallow, we must move on unto better things.

When I say BIAFRA, I don't mean EASTERN region. I mean republic of Igboland composing of SE and any other willing Igbo speaking groups.

Don't get it confused.
Zik might have his shortcoming but he didn't fail. If not for Zik's masterstroke we'll still be in bondage in the hands of the Ijaws in Rivers state.

The north vs south experiment by the British was for selfish reasons. Nobody was consulted when that agreement was made. And Zik alone couldn't do anything to upset the apple cart.

Zik for all his fallings did more for Ndigbo than any Igbo dead or alive.
1. We gained a lot under Zik's leadership during the first republic.
2. Even after the civil war, it took us just 10 years to gain relevance politically as we topped the chart under Shagari.
3. Zik after the war understood that we we've being balkanized by the federal government. He made sure that Igbo people gradually form one region together.
4. Beside helping to remove Anioma grom the West, Zik was making sure to add them and his Onitsha people into one state to make up another Igbo state. But that didn't materialize as Babangida created Delta.
5. Port-Harcourt state was supposed to be created out of Rivers state as a lot of us agitated for it. Zik even in old age sent our delegates to meet Ukiwe who helped in no small measure in given the Ijaws their own state, allowing us the be free from their wahala.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Nobody: 12:14am On Jun 12, 2021
BKayy:

Even the Egbema in Rivers sef, my hand no dey.
Only Obigbo I know because they showed the world that they are proud of themselves, they wear the Igbo badge with honor.
Anybody that wants to join Ndigbo now will be screened thoroughly.
The era of iberiberism have passed.
Even on twitter and radio stations today, the confused fellows saw hell.
No more using Igbo as an escape route

Asaba and it axis with obigbo are the two tribes in the SS that vehemently reaffirm their igboness.The others seem undecided and we should let them be whoever the want.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Igboid: 12:27am On Jun 12, 2021
Eastlink:
Zik might have his shortcoming but he didn't fail. If not for Zik's masterstroke we'll still be in bondage in the hands of the Ijaws in Rivers state.

The north vs south experiment by the British was for selfish reasons. Nobody was consulted when that agreement was made. And Zik alone couldn't do anything to upset the apple cart.

Zik for all his fallings did more for Ndigbo than any Igbo dead or alive.
1. We gained a lot under Zik's leadership during the first republic.
2. Even after the civil war, it took us just 10 years to gain relevance politically as we topped the chart under Shagari.
3. Zik after the war understood that we we've being balkanized by the federal government. He made sure that Igbo people gradually form one region together.
4. Beside helping to remove Anioma grom the West, Zik was making sure to add them and his Onitsha people into one state to make up another Igbo state. But that didn't materialize as Babangida created Delta.
5. Port-Harcourt state was supposed to be created out of Rivers state as a lot of us agitated for it. Zik even in old age sent our delegates to meet Ukiwe who helped in no small measure in given the Ijaws their own state, allowing us the be free from their wahala.

Zik failed.
Infact freeing the genocidal Igbophobic Ikwerre and the likes of Ogba from Ijaw bondage was part of Zik failure.
If Zik did his home work well, there wouldn't be a Wike.

We gained nothing through Zik.
All the developmental progress Ndiigbo made in those era were all brainchild of Michael Okpara and not shortsighted Zik.

2. The Yoruba had a fall out with the North after the civil war nah. Awolowo naively felt the North would repay him for his Italian job against Ndiigbo during the civil war, the North jilted him.
He stupidly felt Ndiigbo hated the North more than we hated his slimy self, but he Learnt a bitter lesson.
The North were simply using Zik and Awolowo against each other. Dumping them at will and choosing the other who is willing to pay back the other by supporting the North.
There was no master strategy in what Zik did in 1979.
The Yorubas just got tired of playing second fiddle to the North and wanted to rule. The North taught them a lesson.
If only they were happy to remain second to the North all through, Zik was not going to get shishi.
What Happened in 1979 and. 83 might yet happen again in 2023.
The Yoruba having backed the North (Buhari) against the South (GEJ) are tired of playing second fiddle, they feel the North should reward them for their job in weakening the South, but the North doesn't share power, so come 2023, the Yorubas will lose out again, as it was in 1979 and it would have nothing to do with Igbo political class sagacity or anything.
They are all just pawns in the Northern game.
Some of us are tired of that stupid cycle of retrogression where so called Igbo and Yoruba elites hustle and bicker each other over who would play second fiddle to retrogressive North.

Our children deserve a clean slate. A new cycle built on progression.
BIAFRA would offer them just that.

You can stay in Nigeria with your Egbema people
After all, South Tyrol people are still Germans yet are part of Italy and Germans in Germany are not losing sleep over them.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Eastlink(m): 12:44am On Jun 12, 2021
Igboid:


Zik failed.
Infact freeing the genocidal Igbophobic Ikwerre and the likes of Ogba from Ijaw bondage was part of Zik failure.
If Zik did his home work well, there wouldn't be a Wike.

We gained nothing through Zik.
All the developmental progress Ndiigbo made in those era were all brainchild of Michael Okpara and not shortsighted Zik.

2. The Yoruba had a fall out with the North after the civil war nah. Awolowo naively felt the North would repay him for his Italian job against Ndiigbo during the civil war, the North jilted him.
He stupidly felt Ndiigbo hated the North more than we hated his slimy self, but he Learnt a bitter lesson.
The North were simply using Zik and Awolowo against each other. Dumping them at will and choosing the other who is willing to pay back the other by supporting the North.
There was no master strategy in what Zik did in 1979.
The Yorubas just got tired of playing second fiddle to the North and wanted to rule. The North taught them a lesson.
If only they were happy to remain second to the North all through, Zik was not going to get shishi.
What Happened in 1979 and. 83 might yet happen again in 2023.
The Yoruba having backed the North (Buhari) against the South (GEJ) are tired of playing second fiddle, they feel the North should reward them for their job in weakening the South, but the North doesn't share power, so come 2023, the Yorubas will lose out again, as it was in 1979 and it would have nothing to do with Igbo political class sagacity or anything.
They are all just pawns in the Northern game.
The Port-Harcourt state we clamored for didn't go as planned. It was supposed to be an Igbo only state had Abacha removed sentiments and create it the way our father's wanted it.

If you think River state will suddenly become pro-Igbo then you can as well wait till eternity. Rivers state will always have relics of anti-Igbo till the end of days. It was built and fermented with anti-Igbo propaganda, and had it not been for the civil war, only the Ijaws and Ogoni would have gone it alone. But the loss of that war dragged us into it. And the Ikwerre having tasted power became mad by fighting a battle with their Chi. Forgetting what we went through in the hands of the Ijaws and now want to become the new Ijaw by enjoying the booty alone.

Any wonder why we, Ekpeye, Ndoni and even Ogba began clamoring for Orashi state which was supposed to be added to Orlu with the help of Senator Nzeribe to form the 6th/7th South-East state.

The truth is that modern Igbo mindset has been wired to hate Zik and love anything Biafra. Whether fraud or fact, the likes of Uwazuruike and Kanu have used their stereotype and one-sided story to render our people mentally and emotionally blank.

The north didn't used Zik against Awo. Both men were simply selfish not to understand the importance of working together. They held on to old grudges and allow the north take centre stage. What happened then is still happening today.

As for 1979-83 repeating itself in 2023 I agree. But neither will the Yoruba nor Igbo gain. The minorities will be the ones north will used this time as always. Igbos have foolishly push themselves below the lower rungs all thanks to the 419 and politically daft business men we have as leaders.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Nobody: 12:45am On Jun 12, 2021
Eastlink:
What many of you people fail to understand is that ever since the rise of IPOB/MASSOB and Biafran apologist like Nnamdi Kanu, the division you seek to mend in Igboland has widened under your care. The earlier you guys understand that you're making things worst the better for you.

Biafra should not be exchanged with Ndigbo. I for instance will never support any useless Biafra for reasons I've stated in the past. I rather remain in Nigeria than go with Biafra, but that doesn't mean I won't defend my ethnic group.

Before MASSOB rejuvenated this faulty enterprise called Biafra, Ndigbo were gradually mending fences naturally. Anioma were calling for a state to be merged to the South-East, while we were calling for our own Orashi to be merged with Orlu zone to form the 7th Igbo state. But everything seems to be thrown to the dogs all thanks to IPOB illiterates who have helped used their daftness to spoil it all.

The same way the daft Bkay and his illeterate likes look for trouble where is none, is the same way you IPOB clowns go to Ekpeye, Ndoni, Ika, Ethce groups and the rest to talk about Biafra, even going as far as insult the indigenes in their own group. Have you visited these communities before to gauge their attitudes? Do you know if they are more pro-Igbo than even you making noise online? You guys need to be careful before you foolishly throw the baby with the bath water.
Most of what happens on Nairaland and online is propaganda by some fellows but it also reflects the truth.You made veracious points but you also have to understand the SE Igbo position.
The SE didn't begin the events that led to the war, but when it happened we stood and still stand by our brethren. We are only guilty of what happens when a senior brother and his siblings embark on a failed adventure.When the elders asks, the little ones will point at the big bro -even though it was a collective decision we have and are still paying for the Biafran adventure.If it had been actualized 1970, most of this tribes will willingly accept whom they are.
The mending of the fence shouldn't be a SE effort only. Our hands have been outstretched for long,. Yes the SE has better relationship with the Asaba axis, yes obigbo is now one with the SE, yes we now know about the igbo's in Benue state ,but it's unfair to blame Ipob for the divide left between both parties.
The Biafran movement you denigrated is in no small part responsible for this reapprochment. They (massob and ipob) played a part in the resurgence of the Igbo identity, The are the foundation on which people like onyeka , send Abaribe and some of our political elites find the strength to demand for equity, because we are no longer effeminate.
But that isn't to say that the dont have there flaws.Ipob is forceful and uncouth in it's language (generally and not targeted at only a specific group) and there recent foray to violence is dangerous but hopefully the will get sense soon.

Honestly we (the present generation especially) from the SE are tired of being accused of trying to grab SS Igbo groups.
When push comes to shove, most SE's will choose a SE only country with obigbo and Asaba whom have never shown confusion about there history. But sincerely,we can't do it alone without losing dearly and that is why Ipob is trying to get the SS in on the project, and that is why Buhari was so happy to announce
the SS is still loyal

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by BKayy: 12:51am On Jun 12, 2021
blues234:

you just type without thinking, you this guy. tue!
Tueh to you there. Mpama

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by BKayy: 12:52am On Jun 12, 2021
eduj:


Asaba and it axis with obigbo are the two tribes in the SS that vehemently reaffirm their igboness.The others seem undecided and we should let them be whoever the want.
Simple as that, everybody should put his money where his mouth is.
Onye ọbụla zaa aha nna ya
Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Eastlink(m): 1:00am On Jun 12, 2021
eduj:

Most of what happens on Nairaland and online is propaganda by some fellows but it also reflects the truth.You made veracious points but you also have to understand the SE Igbo position.
The SE didn't begin the events that led to the war, but when it happened we stood and still stand by our brethren. We are only guilty of what happens when a senior brother and his siblings embark on a failed adventure.When the elders asks, the little ones will point at the big bro -even though it was a collective decision we have and are still paying for the Biafran adventure.If it had been actualized 1970, most of this tribes will willingly accept whom they are.
The mending of the fence shouldn't be a SE effort only. Our hands have been outstretched for long,. Yes the SE has better relationship with the Asaba axis, yes obigbo is now one with the SE, yes we now know about the igbo's in Benue state ,but it's unfair to blame Ipob for the divide left between both parties.
The Biafran movement you denigrated is in no small part responsible for this reapprochment. They (massob and ipob) played a part in the resurgence of the Igbo identity, The are the foundation on which people like onyeka , send Abaribe and some of our political elites find the strength to demand for equity, because we are no longer effeminate.
But that isn't to say that the dont have there flaws.Ipob is forceful and uncouth in it's language (generally and not targeted at only a specific group) and there recent foray to violence is dangerous but hopefully the will get sense soon.

Honestly we (the present generation especially) from the SE are tired of being accused of trying to grab SS Igbo groups.
When push comes to shove, most SE's will choose a SE only country with obigbo and Asaba whom have never shown confusion about there history. But sincerely,we can't do it alone without losing dearly and that is why Ipob is trying to get the SS in on the project, and that is why Buhari was so happy to announce
the SS is still loyal
The SE have always led Ndigbo. Anambra and Abia precisely. Zik, Aguiyi-Ironsi, Okpara, Ojukwu, Ekwueme, Kanu. All of these men share one thing in common. Anambra and Abia. They never understood the people they claim to lead. Either they were to daft to understand that the survival of Ndigbo was sacrosanct or played into the hands of the enemies. The same thing Kanu is ignorantly doing today, is the same thing Ojukwu did in the past.

From day one till now all the actions and inactions that have led to the failure of the Igbo nation was caused by the South-East precisely those two states. And history is repeating itself again. Even the decision that lead to the creation of Biafra was headed by Ojukwu from the South-East without looking at the bigger picture. And what was the bigger picture? By single-handedly and stubbornly leading us to our slaughter and denigration.

Ojukwu helped the north to balkanize Igboland by going into battle with bare hands. Even when he had the opportunity to source weapons, his liliputian pride didn't allow him. Ojukwu gave Isaac Boro and Adekunle, the impetus to commit genocide against us in River state by leaving us undefended. The same thing he did in Anioma was the same thing he did in Rivers.

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Re: There Are Igbos In Bayelsa by Igboid: 1:05am On Jun 12, 2021
Eastlink:
The Port-Harcourt state we clamored for didn't go as planned. It was supposed to be an Igbo only state had Abacha removed sentiments and create it the way our father's wanted it.

If you think River state will suddenly become pro-Igbo then you can as well wait till eternity. Rivers state will always have relics of anti-Igbo till the end of days. It was built and fermented with anti-Igbo propaganda, and had it not been for the civil war, only the Ijaws and Ogoni would have gone it alone. But the loss of that war dragged us into it. And the Ikwerre having tasted power became mad by fighting a battle with their Chi. Forgetting what we went through in the hands of the Ijaws and now want to become the new Ijaw by enjoying the booty alone.

Any wonder why we, Ekpeye, Ndoni and even Ogba began clamoring for Orashi state which was supposed to be added to Orlu with the help of Senator Nzeribe to form the 6th/7th South-East state.

The truth is that modern Igbo mindset has been wired to hate Zik and love anything Biafra. Whether fraud or fact, the likes of Uwazuruike and Kanu have used their stereotype and one-sided story to render our people mentally and emotionally blank.

The north didn't used Zik against Awo. Both men were simply selfish not to understand the importance of working together. They held on to old grudges and allow the north take centre stage. What happened then is still happening today.

As for 1979-83 repeating itself in 2023 I agree. But neither will the Yoruba nor Igbo gain. The minorities will be the ones north will used this time as always. Igbos have foolishly push themselves below the lower rungs all thanks to the 419 and politically daft business men we have as leaders.

Leaving the Ijaws as the masters of intact Rivers State and Ikwerres( plus Igbophobic Igboids) as the rightful prisoners there was an arrangement ordained by God that Zik was too short sighted to see and went and altered.

Either way, that's water under the bridge.
Well Rivers will remain Igbophobic till eternity and as a surival response and instinct, Ndiigbo have grown gradually to match your Igbo hate with even more hate than devil himself can accommodate towards all of you.
And we have millions of people to bring to play.
We just have to wait out the relevance of crude oil and the rise of natural gas to tip the Economic scales to our favor, and this time around, there would be no mercy!

Please keep your Ogba and Ekpeye out of SE, we don't want you lots contaminating Oguta and Ohaji with your Igbophobia.
Heaven knows how long it took us to finally wean Oguta off their Bini origin fantasies and to embrace Igbo tag.

Zik was a shortsighted fellow and modern Igbo nationalists can see his flaws and they are all unpardonable.
Yes! Modern Igbo nationalism is built around Biafra. If as an Igbo speaking group you cannot embrace Biafra, then you really can't fit in.
You must be funny if you think Ndiigbo are a people someone can manipulate or deceive. You said you are from Egbema Rivers, so you should know better.
Kanu is only relevant as far as he is seen to be protecting and fighting for the Biafran Agenda, while the SE political jobbers are seen as nobodies despite their posts because they are believed by Igbo massess to be aligned with NIGERIA and not Biafra.
Why do you think Uwazuruike is no longer relevant today in Igboland? Because he is seen to have betrayed the Biafran struggle.
Biafra without doubt is the soul of modern Igbo nationalism. Only Biafra can make an Igbo man close his shop or make an Igbo youths lay down their lives willingly, BIAFRA evokes the spirit of altruism inside any pure Igbo soul.
You must be naive and misguided if you think this is about Kanu or IPOB.

And on Zik and Awolowo.
They are both illustrations of how stupid any one who believes in and defends Nigerian Unity look like when analyzed by future generations in the future.
They look vacuous, silly and naive.

I hope you don't be like them in death.

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