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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by TheGuyFromHR: 8:40pm On Jun 19, 2021
Ilekokonit:




So, its the fetishness some Nigerians abroad indulge in that i am calling out. If you visit a lot of barber shops and Naija restaurants / beer parlours in areas of London densely populated with Nigerians, sit down and just spend some time listening to people, you will marvel at what some Nigerians in London get up to and[b] all indications are that Nigerians in manchester and Ireland are probably worse than the ones in london.

I hear and see a lot of things as Nigerian restaurants and Beer Parlors used to be like a second home to me[i] (and probably still is) [/i] as I've not cooked since I came back from Naija in 2008 and because I work very long hours and don't have my first meal until after work, I spend quite a lot of time in Nigerian Restaurants over the past 13 years and some of the things I've seen and heard about Nigerians in London is better left imagined and being that London never really used to be like this 20 something years ago, I'm always comparing and contrasting the Nigerians in London then versus some of the ones I meet now.

Laughing at the Mancunian reference.
When I was moving to the UK and trying to decide on where to live, my cousin said "Avoid that Manchester and either go to Leeds, Birmingham or back to Scotland where you dey before, there's something in the air in that Manchester, with all the stories we dey hear, dem mad pass people wey dey London".

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 9:10pm On Jun 19, 2021
Lexusgs430:
Phrankleen is firing today o....... grin

He is streaming live now, if you are off work ...... Enjoy a Blue Therapy Session....... cheesy

Watching now. Dude’s crazy, with his Yoruba ajasa grin grin grin

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by umarwy(m): 9:14pm On Jun 19, 2021
Lexusgs430:


I own a 3500cc......... grin


Not shares, commodities, cryptos, ETF's...... tongue


Honda Legend
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by umarwy(m): 9:25pm On Jun 19, 2021
icon8:


This one off me grin grin grin


maybe he has eaten from tha ladies resturant and he doesnt even know he has been hooked

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 9:26pm On Jun 19, 2021
umarwy:



Honda Legend


Only for true Legends......... cheesy

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 9:27pm On Jun 19, 2021
umarwy:



maybe he has eaten from tha ladies resturant and he doesnt even know he has been hooked


O ti jee efoo..... cheesy

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by justwise(m): 9:27pm On Jun 19, 2021
Lexusgs430:
Phrankleen is firing today o....... grin

He is streaming live now, if you are off work ...... Enjoy a Blue Therapy Session....... cheesy

His videos are becoming too lengthy for me

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 9:28pm On Jun 19, 2021
icon8:


Baba ę ja wa si cheesy

Who him be?


A guy that loves to rant.......... cheesy

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 9:29pm On Jun 19, 2021
justwise:


His videos are becoming too lengthy for me

Absolutely...... One can risk a hernia.... I just stumbled on his live stream......... wink

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by justwise(m): 9:35pm On Jun 19, 2021
Lexusgs430:


Absolutely...... One can risk a hernia.... I just stumbled on his live stream......... wink

I subscribed to his channel long time ago and watch most of his videos but his anti-west view puts me off sometimes.

I prefer Summer Aku's videos as they are shorter and straight to the point

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by cutieb(f): 9:36pm On Jun 19, 2021
Mamatukwas:


Shipping Naija food to the UK is tricky. Regular garri, poundo, Egusi etc no issues. Other items like Fish/fish related items, meat and beans are considered contraband. Yam and Oil are they ‘that must not be named’ grin. Contraband items can be sent via a special DHL license we have but it’s not cheap.

If you’re in Scotland, depending on your location I can tell you where to get Naija food in Glasgow. Otherwise order from Wosiwosi. They dey try. If you insist on fresh fish from your village in bayelsa, then I’ve got you but be ready to pay wink

Lol ..na real bayelsa village... I'm in Fife actually

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 9:44pm On Jun 19, 2021
justwise:


I subscribed to his channel long time ago and watch most of his videos but his anti-west view puts me off sometimes.

I prefer Summer Aku's videos as they are shorter and straight to the point


Let me track Aku's channel....... cheesy

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by tushqueen(f): 9:58pm On Jun 19, 2021
Mamatukwas:
And see some of us praying to see more Nigerians, sigh. I guess the grass is truly not greener on any side.


My thought too, anytime I go out or at work, I always look forward to meeting Nigerians.


Let me keep eating my popcorn and learn from experience.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by justwise(m): 10:04pm On Jun 19, 2021
Lexusgs430:



Let me track Aku's channel....... cheesy

Her videos are mostly about pastors though more balanced view about religion than Phrankleen, Phrankleen has a very strong view about religion though i share some of his views

She is a fine sis as well grin

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 10:06pm On Jun 19, 2021
justwise:


Her videos are mostly about pastors though more balanced view about religion than Phrankleen, Phrankleen has a very strong view about religion though i share some of his views


Phrankleen, can be passive aggressive..... grin

Aku seems to align with my religious dispositions.... cheesy

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 10:07pm On Jun 19, 2021
justwise:


Her videos are mostly about pastors though more balanced view about religion than Phrankleen, Phrankleen has a very strong view about religion though i share some of his views

She is a fine sis as well grin


I can only look, I can't touch...... cheesy
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by justwise(m): 10:13pm On Jun 19, 2021
Lexusgs430:



Phrankleen, can be passive aggressive..... grin

Aku seems to align with my religious dispositions.... cheesy


I share that as well but i disagree with her regarding Biafra issue.
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by justwise(m): 10:15pm On Jun 19, 2021
Lexusgs430:



I can only look, I can't touch...... cheesy

Oh well....
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 10:32pm On Jun 19, 2021
justwise:
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I share that as well but i disagree with her regarding Biafra issue.


I have not gotten that far yet (I would just give that topic a very wide berth)........ wink

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by fatima04: 10:58pm On Jun 19, 2021
7barz:
Hi @thegurus

I am lost on what to do...

My husband and I have both studied and lived in the UK some years back before moving back to Nigeria 4 years ago before our visa expired. However, we are both coming back to the UK in September for his PhD studies while I come on as a dependent.

I do not know how to say this but I have to. During my stay, i took an unsecured loan and credit card loan from a UK bank and I didn't pay it off before I left the UK and I totally forgot about it while in Nigeria. i recently logged into my UK bank account this week and I saw the deficits. There was no official mail from the bank during the years I was in Nigeria so I wasn't in the know. Although i should have remembered that I didn't complete the payment so it's all my fault.

I tried to access my credit score and as expected, it has been impacted and I observed that the money has been passed off to a collection agency.

I would like to know if

1. I can contact the collection agency and find a way to pay off the deficits or have some kind of a structured repayment plan.

2. As my husband and I are both coming to the UK this September, can this affect us from securing accommodation in the future, especially when they do a credit check on our documents?

I would really appreciate your response and I do hope to be able to clean up this mess I created.


Hmmmn, first of all if your husband has a clean record, then let him be the one to apply for any rental checks and don't try having any joint account that will link link 2 of you and affect his credit rating.

Secondly, I am curious to know how come you did not log in all this while, or able to remember your login details and you just checked when coming to the UK is now back on the table?

Your actions or inaction as it is, is one of the reasons why student are having a difficult time opening accounts, renting, not to talk of having access to such credit facilities and landlords now requesting for 6months rent to protect their interest. Alot of student had relocated back to their home country whilst owing rent just because they believe what's the worst that can happen!

This is one of the reasons why we all as migrants should always try to deal truthfully and with integrity because, I bet if you were not thinking of moving to the UK, you would not be bothered about this mess now.

We all should try to be role models in whatever we do because others coming behind will be judged and profiled based on the actions of our predecessors.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by wealthtrak: 10:58pm On Jun 19, 2021
Ilekokonit:


Ok let me clarify my thinking.

There are Nigerian restaurants in London whose owners put stuff from one "baba" in Nigeria in the food they sell to innocent Nigerians as an acquaintance once walked in on a woman who owns a restaurant we used to go to when the woman was on the phone to the "baba" in Nigeria asking how much of the stuff "baba" gave her she should put into the soup she is selling to the public.

I heard of a woman who took her huge British telecom phone bill to a White Garment pastor for consultations and prayers so that BT will reduce or forget about the bill and there are White Garment pastors in London who pray for fraudsters so that they will not be caught and i know a Bros in London who before he got married sent the prospective babes photographs to his brother in Nigeria asking him to consult 5 Babalawo's, 5 Imams and 5 pastors for "prayers" to see which of the babes is his future wife and the same bros said he once went onto London bridge in the dead of the night to take a "recommended" spiritual bath washing himself from head to toe with water and the old Nigerian 5 kobo (called sisi) on top of London bridge in the dead of the night.

Some of the Naija women in Manchester when they fall out and start recording slander videos against one another also expose what some of them get up to in Manchester and there is one who accused her erstwhile friend who is a caterer of putting the food she is selling to order into her bath, stripping off all her clothes, stand in the bath over the food and washing her privates over the food before then cooking it and delivering the order to the Nigerian who ordered the food for his or her party. I don't know if this one is true but this is from a beef video they recorded when the fell out and the video is most likely still on Youtube but i can't remember which one it is now.

So, these are just some of the things I've seen and heard in London in my time here and you just never know if that so called friend (old ones or new ones) is putting stuff into your food or drink when you go visiting them and the best thing to do in such instances is to make such friends know that you don't subscribe to fetishness or consulting sooth sayers and in any case such friendships can not stand the test of time unless you also believe in consulting sooth sayers.

So, its the fetishness some Nigerians abroad indulge in that i am calling out. If you visit a lot of barber shops and Naija restaurants / beer parlours in areas of London densely populated with Nigerians, sit down and just spend some time listening to people, you will marvel at what some Nigerians in London get up to and all indications are that Nigerians in manchester and Ireland are probably worse than the ones in london.

I hear and see a lot of things as Nigerian restaurants and Beer Parlors used to be like a second home to me[i] (and probably still is) [/i] as I've not cooked since I came back from Naija in 2008 and because I work very long hours and don't have my first meal until after work, I spend quite a lot of time in Nigerian Restaurants over the past 13 years and some of the things I've seen and heard about Nigerians in London is better left imagined and being that London never really used to be like this 20 something years ago, I'm always comparing and contrasting the Nigerians in London then versus some of the ones I meet now.
@Ilekokonit
Thanks for the feedback.
I had to read it twice because it
was illuminating.

"Whoo! Eleyi strong gan o!" shocked


I've heard and read about some
of the things you indicated in your post but you added some more vivid facts here.

I've even read online here on
an NL post 2 months ago that
the HQ of the most popular
white garment church has
given instructions that doctrinal infractions from any of their
church branches in the UK,
Nigeria, etc, should be reported
by anybody to the Celestial HQ
in Nigeria.


The white garment and Muslim
Alfa prayers for success are quite common in Naija and in the
Diaspora, and this is based on
their level of consciousness.
I've always believed in cause-and-effect and that thoughts are energy!


Our Thoughts, Feelings, Actions = Results.


We must largely take responsibility
for our actions as-and-when-due and not depend solely on prayers and fasting all the time which is often used by clueless politicians and religious charlatans to bamboozle people!


My younger one (of same parents) lives in Manchester with his non-
Naija wife and children, and he was telling me recently how some whites and people of other ethnicities also scam people via investment scams, and use some kinda psychic manipulation in the UK. He said he is very cautious about dealing with some people because of that.



I'd love to see those videos on
YouTube just so as to determine
if the women are saying the truth or just trying to throw the people
they have beef with under the
bus grin... I mean we've seen how insidious and ruthless some women can be with making false rape and/or false harassment allegations. angry


The idea of washing "privates" into food as instructed by some fake baba somewhere clearly shows that those folks... especially women
are in the firm grip of charlatans and NOT genuinely spiritually evolved people of any faith! Those charlatans eventually use psychic means or basic mind control
to collect money - sometimes running into millions from these
women and even sleep with
them through the use of the
"fear factor." SMH


Lastly though, I'm for robust solutions here and I think there must be an intentional "multiple-streams-of-income" mass awareness among the Nigerian Diaspora in the U.S., Canada, UK, etc, using the large Nigerian,
Yoruba, Edo, Ibibio, etc, socio-cultural associations to reach out
to their members in all nooks
and crannies.


Lanre Olusola is one of the top-notch personal finance and
NLP professionals out there for
capacity building and to unlearn
all the negative family and
relationship experiences from divorces to toxic sibling rivalries
which affects our relationships
as adults with co-workers, business associates, and spouses.


People need to get a grip on their personal choices in life by learning about "emotional intelligence" so as to live in harmony with other people and avoid falling into the
grip of these kinds of religious
charlatans and their BS.


Financial education, and the global financial markets are some of the major keys right now to achieving
financial liberation to complement the day jobs.


I mean recession-proof investments and careers here.
Commodities (such as crude oil
or gold), stocks, options, and currencies can be traded online
via any digital devices from anywhere with net access.


Thanks for the great
feedback.

All the best.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by sgtponzihater1(m): 11:26pm On Jun 19, 2021
7barz:
Hi @thegurus

I am lost on what to do...

My husband and I have both studied and lived in the UK some years back before moving back to Nigeria 4 years ago before our visa expired. However, we are both coming back to the UK in September for his PhD studies while I come on as a dependent.

I do not know how to say this but I have to. During my stay, i took an unsecured loan and credit card loan from a UK bank and I didn't pay it off before I left the UK and I totally forgot about it while in Nigeria. i recently logged into my UK bank account this week and I saw the deficits. There was no official mail from the bank during the years I was in Nigeria so I wasn't in the know. Although i should have remembered that I didn't complete the payment so it's all my fault.

I tried to access my credit score and as expected, it has been impacted and I observed that the money has been passed off to a collection agency.

I would like to know if

1. I can contact the collection agency and find a way to pay off the deficits or have some kind of a structured repayment plan.

2. As my husband and I are both coming to the UK this September, can this affect us from securing accommodation in the future, especially when they do a credit check on our documents?

I would really appreciate your response and I do hope to be able to clean up this mess I created.


One of the many Nigerians who I have seen do this. Similar excuses for most; I forgot I took a loan. I don't believe it though yours may be different.

A guy took a loan of 40k converted it to Naira and bolted away and lived lavish for a while, years later came back for his PHD and has been paying monthly and cursing about being in debth. He claims he forgot too. 40k?

Luckily, unlike Naija where you'll be dragged with EFCC and paraded on the news, you can always come in relax first, get a job and negotiate a payment plan if its too heavy to pay at once. But we generally should be able to do better.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by dupyshoo: 12:04am On Jun 20, 2021
My thoughts exactly!! I know of people who we finished school together that took mobile phone contracts for latest phone and then left for Naija.

How can you take loan and forget? Hard to believe!! Her credit rating will make her not to forget again. Bad credit rating might even prevent one from getting some jobs.

fatima04:


Hmmmn, first of all if your husband has a clean record, then let him be the one to apply for any rental checks and don't try having any joint account that will link link 2 of you and affect his credit rating.

Secondly, I am curious to know how come you did not log in all this while, or able to remember your login details and you just checked when coming to the UK is now back on the table?

Your actions or inaction as it is, is one of the reasons why student are having a difficult time opening accounts, renting, not to talk of having access to such credit facilities and landlords now requesting for 6months rent to protect their interest. Alot of student had relocated back to their home country whilst owing rent just because they believe what's the worst that can happen!

This is one of the reasons why we all as migrants should always try to deal truthfully and with integrity because, I bet if you were not thinking of moving to the UK, you would not be bothered about this mess now.

We all should try to be role models in whatever we do because others coming behind will be judged and profiled based on the actions of our predecessors.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Ilekokonit: 12:49am On Jun 20, 2021
LagosismyHome:
So the ones fresh from naija..gosh . I see more arrogance especially with those with nothing but feel they have arrive.

I find people who have lived here for ages more relatable and down to earth. Same way I am now painting people with the same brush

Good point.

Some time ago, I was at a Naija joint where we go to have a "few" drinks and proper Live Naija Point and Kill fish Pepper Soup and this "flash" guy who just arrived from Naija was bragging and acting as if he was all that and as if he brought so much money from Naija (which was a fallacy as later events revealed) .

This guy had an answer to everything even though he had only been here for 11 months.

At some point, I had to advice him that if he was that successful financially in Naija then instead of overstaying his visitors visa and becoming an illegal immigrant, I thought since he says he has a solid source of income in Nigeria and he had only been in London for 11 months, he was (in my opinion) better off going back to Naija before his visa expired and solidify his "good" source of income in Naija instead of his plan of looking for someone to marry for papers before his Visa expired (a plan that was already unraveling as him and his "wife" were already having problems and he had already moved out of the house).

After a few months he disappeared from the said point and kill joint not to resurface for the past few months (most probably because he has exhausted the money he brought from Naija).

When I see people who have only spent a few months in the UK bragging about how they are going to hammer because their own destiny is different from that of people who have spent donkey years in Jand without "hammering" I just look and laugh. If only they knew !!!!

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by BabaAgba22: 1:01am On Jun 20, 2021
7barz:

I would like to know if

1. I can contact the collection agency and find a way to pay off the deficits or have some kind of a structured repayment plan.

2. As my husband and I are both coming to the UK this September, can this affect us from securing accommodation in the future, especially when they do a credit check on our documents?

I would really appreciate your response and I do hope to be able to clean up this mess I created.

It may affect some landlords giving you accommodation but NOT all landlords do a credit check before letting out their houses as most of them are just interested in the regular rent payments.

And yes, you can contact the collection agency (a lot of them allow you to even set up a payment plan online without any human contact) but ensure i) you don't tell them you relocated to Naija without paying the loan and ii) only agree a payment plan you can easily afford say for instance £40 a month and stick to it and iii) guard your credit after it becomes good again after 5 or 6 years as you most likely will want to buy a family house instead of wasting money on rent. Good luck.
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Ilekokonit: 3:31am On Jun 20, 2021
lightest:
Personally, when I first came to Norwich last year I did not like it because I felt its a quite environment. Told my wife who happens to have stayed here and works in a 2hr bus away from Norwich that we should consider relocation.

She said and as she be the principal I can't argue with her because am on her visa.

Now that I have adjusted myself to the environment having gotten job where I work 66hr a roll in a week and I am happy doing what I do.

Cos she is being victimised in her work place, she just called me this morning that she is considering relocation
and I asked her only for her to tell me Yorkshire or Stockport.

Please tell your wife to think long and hard about relocating away from Norwich just because she is being victimised in her work place. It comes with the territory especially if a) you are a confident black person who doesn't see Oyinbo as God and b) you work in the public sector (e.g Hospitals, schools, councils or with one of their contractors that has a lot of Ex Public sector Staff) . There is no where where you have a majority of white people where you will not find racism towards black people or victimization of black people and if some people who have lived in the UK for decades tell you what they have experienced from managers (white, black and asian) in the work place you will marvel.

I remember resigning from a job once as an Accountant when my asian manager in a Private publishing company was queried by her Top directors as to why she is allowing a Nigerian to sign cheques for suppliers and one day I went to lunch and came back and saw her packing all the cheque books away from my desk saying that she could no longer allow me to sign cheques as she had not fully checked my references and knowing where she was going, I said fair enough, but why did she allow me to sign cheques the previous day and she had no answer (as she sussed out that I knew where she was going) and she eventually went into her office to bring out a letter from Barclays Bank that showed that the former Accountant (not a Nigerian but an Asian like her) stole £10,000 from them.

I Promptly reported her foe prejudice to the HR Director who by chance happened to be a mixed Race guy who then forced her to apologise and the chap asked me if i still wanted to continue in the self employed contract role and i reluctantly said Yes (which i didn't mean) and on asking my asian manager (also an accountant) if she wanted me to continue in the role she said no as she could not change her self and in the end she was forced to pay me off as i was a self employed contractor and she still had the effrontery to ask me to do some more accounting postings before i left to which i refused.

I've also actually been sacked by a company that buys cameras on lease and then rents them to the BBC and what was my offence ?? Not doing the VAT Fraud they were accustomed to doing prior to my joining them. Thank God I left accounting for Good and moved back into IT more than 3 Years ago.

There is even an NHS Hospital where I was a Systems Accountant and I ended up resigning in 2006 because I did an NHS sponsored ECDL exam, scored 92% and the Carribean invigilator (unbeknownst to me at the instigation of my Carribean line manager) asked me to retake the exam as she was not sure i did not cheat to pass and i had to educate her that she should forget what she reads on the internet and that not all Nigerians are fraudsters or exam cheats and that some of us were already highly educated before we left Nigeria. These NHS winches turned it into a disciplinary hearing against me because i sent an email to them that made them look silly for their prejudice and their NHS kangaroo court found me guilty of losing my temper (after being accused wrongly of being an exam cheat)
and my "punishment" was that they would be watching me for the next one year to see if I lost my temper again. I went back to my desk thought about the implications for my freedom of expression for the next 12 months and withing 30 minutes, i resigned and 2 days later, i relocated back to Nigeria to open a restaurant ( which didn't work out due to pilfering staff - hence my coming back to the UK in 2008).

In my above 3 jobs, I really had no rights to sue the said employers because the first one was a self employed contractor post, the second one I had been there for less than 2 years ditto the NHS one as well but If your wife has spent at least 2 years with her employer, she has so many rights of litigation that she may not be aware of.

But having said that, your wife's victimization experience comes with the territory if you are a non subservient black person and to prevent gaps opening up on her CV which WILL work against her in the UK, she will just have to grit her teeh and fight fire for fire especially if she is in the right and she has been with that employer for at least 2 years and SHE MUST JOIN A TOP UNION SOON and if her employer has no union she can use the following online tool to find the best union to join - https://www.tuc.org.uk/join-a-union


But what is the guarantee that if she relocates out of Norwich she will not meet a bigger racist demon in her new workplace ?

Her best bet is NOT TO RESIGN, (if the stress is too much she can call in sick if need be to buy time and if she works in the public sector and you both have your indefinite stay then instead of resigning she could go off sick due to work related stress for at least a month whilst she regroups her thoughts, reflects and applies for as many replacement jobs IN THE SAME NORWICH) , join a union if she is not already in one and NEVER RESIGN but make a harassment, bullying or victimisation / discrimination complaint to HR unless she feels that the HR staff could also turn against her in solidarity with their racist winch colleagues in which case as a last resort depending on you guys visa statuses and if she has been there for more than 2 years she can resign and sue her employer for constructive dismissal BUT RESIGNATION or RELOCATION IS A LAST RESORT AFTER SHE HAS TRIED ALL THE OTHER METHODS I'VE SUGGESTED ABOVE.

In the UK, Constructive dismissal is when you jumped before you were pushed i.e. you resigned yourself when the conditions became unbearable because of bad treatment from your employer or its agents (i.e managers or colleagues) for instance if your manager in the UK calls you a Black bastard and you have proof or witnesses and there have been other instances that made you suspect that the said manager doesn't like you because of your race and non-subservience and you have been with that employer for at least 2 years and you and your spouse have indefinite stay then you can resign immediately and take the employer to an employment tribunal and you WILL win a case of Constructive Dismissal with a payout that "could" be a multiple of your annual salary depending on your length of service but take heed because such cases may drag on for years during which time you still have bills to pay !!!!!!

So, your wife's best bet is NOT TO RELOCATE OR RESIGN but to first go off sick if the victimization becomes unbearable and then go back and fight it out with them BUT ensuring she sticks to the contents of the organizations employee hand book (which she must devour during her time off sick) but she should NOT relocate to a different city and should NOT resign as the devil you know is better than the angel you don't know. she has no guarantee that a new job in a new city will be any better and at worst she should start looking for a job in the same Norwich but never resign before getting a new job as it is easier to get a job whilst you are still in one and any gaps on your CV WILL be used against you in the UK.

Good Luck.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by NwaliE01: 3:47am On Jun 20, 2021
Ilekokonit:


Please tell your wife to think long and hard about relocating away from Norwich just because she is being victimised in her work place. It comes with the territory especially if a) you are a confident black person who doesn't don't see Oyinbo as God and b) you work in the public sector (e.g Hospitals, schools, councils or with one of their contractors that has a lot of Ex Public sector Staff) . There is no where where you have a majority of white people where you will not find racism towards black people or victimization of black people and if some people who have lived in the UK for decades tell you what they have experienced from managers (white, black and asian) in the work place you will marvel.

I remember resigning from a job once as an Accountant when my asian manager in a Private publishing company was queried by her Top directors as to why she is allowing a Nigerian to sign cheques for suppliers and one day I went to lunch and came back and saw her packing all the cheque books away from my desk saying that she could no longer allow me to sign cheques as she had not fully checked my references and knowing where she was going, I said fair enough, but why did she allow me to sign cheques the previous day and she had no answer (as she sussed out that I knew where she was going) and she eventually went into her office to bring out a letter from Barclays Bank that showed that the former Accountant (not a Nigerian but an Asian like her) stole £10,000 from them.

I Promptly reported her foe prejudice to the HR Director who by chance happened to be a mixed Race guy who then forced her to apologise and the chap asked me if i still wanted to continue in the self employed contract role and i reluctantly said Yes (which i didn't mean) and on asking my asian manager (also an accountant) if she wanted me to continue in the role she said no as she could not change her self and in the end she was forced to pay me off as i was a self employed contractor and she still had the effrontery to ask me to do some more accounting postings before i left to which i refused.

I've also actually been sacked by a company that buys cameras on lease and then rents them to the BBC and what was my offence ?? Not doing the VAT Fraud they were accustomed to doing prior to my joining them. Thank God I left accounting for Good and moved back into IT more than 3 Years ago.

There is even an NHS Hospital where I was a Systems Accountant and I ended up resigning in 2006 because I did an NHS sponsored ECDL exam, scored 92% and the Carribean invigilator (unbeknownst to me at the instigation of my Carribean line manager) asked me to retake the exam as she was not sure i did not cheat to pass and i had to educate her that she should forget what she reads on the internet and that not all Nigerians are fraudsters or exam cheats and that some of us were already highly educated before we left Nigeria. These NHS winches turned it into a disciplinary hearing against me because i sent an email to them that made them look silly for their prejudice and their NHS kangaroo court found me guilty of losing my temper (after being accused wrongly of being an exam cheat)
and my "punishment" was that they would be watching me for the next one year to see if I lost my temper again. I went back to my desk thought about the implications for my freedom of expression for the next 12 months and withing 30 minutes, i resigned and 2 days later, i relocated back to Nigeria to open a restaurant ( which didn't work out due to pilfering staff - hence my coming back to the UK in 2008).

In my above 3 jobs, I really had no rights to sue the said employers because the first one was a self employed contractor post, the second one I had been there for less than 2 years ditto the NHS one as well but If your wife has spent at least 2 years with her employer, she has so many rights of litigation that she may not be aware of.

But having said that, your wife's victimization experience comes with the territory if you are a non subservient black person and to prevent gaps opening up on her CV which WILL work against her in the UK, she will just have to grit her teeh and fight fire for fire especially if she is in the right and she has been with that employer for at least 2 years and SHE MUST JOIN A TOP UNION SOON and if her employer has no union she can use the following online tool to find the best union to join - https://www.tuc.org.uk/join-a-union


But what is the guarantee that if she relocates out of Norwich she will not meet a bigger racist demon in her new workplace ?

Her best bet is NOT TO RESIGN, (if the stress is too much she can call in sick if need be to buy time and if she works in the public sector and you both have your indefinite stay then instead of resigning she could go off sick due to work related stress for at least a month whilst she regroups her thoughts, reflects and applies for as many replacement jobs IN THE SAME NORWICH) , join a union if she is not already in one and NEVER RESIGN but make a harassment, bullying or victimisation / discrimination complaint to HR unless she feels that the HR staff could also turn against her in solidarity with their racist winch colleagues in which case as a last resort depending on you guys visa statuses and if she has been there for more than 2 years she can resign and sue her employer for constructive dismissal BUT RESIGNATION or RELOCATION IS A LAST RESORT AFTER SHE HAS TRIED ALL THE OTHER METHODS I'VE SUGGESTED ABOVE.

In the UK, Constructive dismissal is when you jumped before you were pushed i.e. you resigned yourself when the conditions became unbearable because of bad treatment from your employer or its agents (i.e managers or colleagues) for instance if your manager in the UK calls you a Black bastard and you have proof or witnesses and there have been other instances that made you suspect that the said manager doesn't like you because of your race and non-subservience and you have been with that employer for at least 2 years and you and your spouse have indefinite stay then you can resign immediately and take the employer to an employment tribunal and you WILL win a case of Constructive Dismissal with a payout that "could" be a multiple of your annual salary depending on your length of service but take heed because such cases may drag on for years during which time you still have bills to pay !!!!!!

So, your wife's best bet is NOT TO RELOCATE OR RESIGN but to first go off sick if the victimization becomes unbearable and then go back and fight it out with them BUT ensuring she sticks to the contents of the organizations employee hand book (which she must devour during her time off sick) but she should NOT relocate to a different city and should NOT resign as the devil you know is better than the angel you don't know. she has no guarantee that a new job in a new city will be any better and at worst she should start looking for a job in the same Norwich but never resign before getting a new job as it is easier to get a job whilst you are still in one and any gaps on your CV WILL be used against you in the UK.

Good Luck.



You’re such a nice person. Thank You even though i don’t know you.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Ilekokonit: 4:09am On Jun 20, 2021
NwaliE01:

You’re such a nice person. Thank You even though i don’t know you.

No worries. I myself have been put through the washing machine in the UK by employers for decades that now nothing fazes me and I now tackle them fire for fire as long as I know that I am in the right and that I've been with them for at least 2 years. Racism or expecting me to be subservient just because I am black and have an African accent is something my spirit (which is similar to Fela Kuti's own) will just never take from anyone especially seeing that in my younger days as a Medical student at UI, I dissected the human brain indepth and have seen that it is exactly the same as that of the white mans.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by TheGuyFromHR: 5:29am On Jun 20, 2021
Ilekokonit:



In the UK, Constructive dismissal is when you jumped before you were pushed i.e. you resigned yourself when the conditions became unbearable because of bad treatment from your employer or its agents (i.e managers or colleagues) for instance if your manager in the UK calls you a Black bastard and you have proof or witnesses and there have been other instances that made you suspect that the said manager doesn't like you because of your race and non-subservience and you have been with that employer for at least 2 years and you and your spouse have indefinite stay then you can resign immediately and take the employer to an employment tribunal and you WILL win a case of Constructive Dismissal with a payout that "could" be a multiple of your annual salary depending on your length of service but take heed because such cases may drag on for years during which time you still have bills to pay !!!!!!

So, your wife's best bet is NOT TO RELOCATE OR RESIGN but to first go off sick if the victimization becomes unbearable and then go back and fight it out with them BUT ensuring she sticks to the contents of the organizations employee hand book (which she must devour during her time off sick) but she should NOT relocate to a different city and should NOT resign as the devil you know is better than the angel you don't know. she has no guarantee that a new job in a new city will be any better and at worst she should start looking for a job in the same Norwich but never resign before getting a new job as [b] it is easier to get a job whilst you are still in one and any gaps on your CV WILL be used against you in the UK.[/b][i][/i]

Good Luck.


The bolded and italicised are worth their weight in gold.
If, bad as e bad, one must resign and face the prospect of an employment history gap, either volunteer somewhere, or reinvent yourself as a consultant and find a relevant training course, pay and dive into it immediately, or travel back to Naija to patriotically volunteer to help the overstretched and underfunded health service there with your newly acquired/refined in the UK skills during the Covid crisis or travel back to Naija to look after your very sick father/mother/beloved sibling/grandparent on the point of death for a couple of months.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by justwise(m): 6:36am On Jun 20, 2021
BabaAgba22:


It may affect some landlords giving you accommodation but NOT all landlords do a credit check before letting out their houses as most of them are just interested in the regular rent payments.

And yes, you can contact the collection agency (a lot of them allow you to even set up a payment plan online without any human contact) but ensure i) you don't tell them you relocated to Naija without paying the loan and ii) only agree a payment plan you can easily afford say for instance £40 a month and stick to it and iii) guard your credit after it becomes good again after 5 or 6 years as you most likely will want to buy a family house instead of wasting money on rent. Good luck.

You are not helping her situation, they most likely know that already so why lying about it?
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Regex: 7:12am On Jun 20, 2021
Ilekokonit:


No worries. I myself have been put through the washing machine in the UK by employers for decades that now nothing fazes me and I now tackle them fire for fire as long as I know that I am in the right and that I've been with them for at least 2 years. Racism or expecting me to be subservient just because I am black and have an African accent is something my spirit (which is similar to Fela Kuti's own) will just never take from anyone especially seeing that in my younger days as a Medical student at UI, I dissected the human brain indepth and have seen that it is exactly the same as that of the white mans.


I can't quote your previous post as it is too long and putting into consideration other readers. That said.


I experienced racism in my previous job that I had to quit and tbh it is really difficult to get another job although I'm still a student. I had to tackle one stupid white who wanted me to over work myself and the guy went to call the big boss on me grin like I stole his candy or something... Someone as old as my father.

Na their I come know say oyibo deh lie well well.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by jtech17: 8:41am On Jun 20, 2021
Ilekokonit:

When I see people who have only spent a few months in the UK bragging about how they are going to hammer because their own destiny is different from that of people who have spent donkey years in Jand without "hammering" I just look and laugh. If only they knew !!!!

This part gat me laughing..like madt... reminded of a lady we once worked together here in naija.. I've been with the company for 3years.. she just spent 2 weeks and believed her case will be different my our case,.. she was dreaming of being transferred to the head office and given a better treatment... we wey dey d company av gone for several trainings, applied for many internal positions, and even have good raport with supervisors and HR.. dem no promote us.. we were still on the same job for years.. na she know d charlatan wey make her believe say in 1 month she go get promo... madam couldn't even stay d job for 2 months... she run pass terry g

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