ipodstinks:
So you know my town more than me?

It's my town too, born and raised there

ipodstinks:
Nope, Akure is entirely different from Ekiti.

I am from Akure

Any difference in dialect among these towns, Iju, Emure, Akure, Ijare, Igbara-oke, Igbara-odo, Ilara-moki, Ikere dialect? Same dialect but in two states. Akure North, South, Ifedore are Ekitis culturally but not in a political entity. Deji of Akure used to be part of Ekiti Pelupelu Obas.

Sammy07:

Oh, alright sounds too much like ekiti to me

Alright
Cc: Elliotwaveforec

Not alright! Ondo Ekimogun only shares boundary with Ekitis (in which Akure was part of), You need to listen to some Ondo panegyrics.
Akure dialect is closer to Ise, Emure, etc compared with Ekitis in moba and Kwara to Emure, Ise, Ikere, Ado.
Deji of Akure used to be part of Ekiti Obas' Pelupelu.

Ekitis fought for capital of old Ondo State to be in Akure rather than Ondo town. Maybe you should listen to Akure and other Ekiti traditional music and see if there is any difference.

Elliotwaveforec:


Is Akure different from Ondo Ekimogun? Are their dialects different?

There's no difference between Akure and Ekiti; shared culture, dialect, Erekesin markets, traditional stools, music and every other stuff. The only difference is that they are in different states and this makes Akure recently trying to identify differently.

HellAnus:

More than 87% of those sub groups are super skull miners due to the influence the dominant tribe there has on them.

Go back to that dotted hole you crept out from

ipodstinks:
Tell me how Akure speak Ekiti dialect. I want to know how you know the both than I do. Cos I am associated with both of them.

I will write same word in both Akure and Ekiti down for you right now.

Write them let's see. There are variations of Ekiti dialect even within Ekiti, although homogeneous people.

Alba3:


Any difference in dialect among these towns, Iju, Emure, Akure, Ijare, Igbara-oke, Igbara-odo, Ilara-moki, Ikere dialect? Same dialect but in two states. Akure North, South, Ifedore are Ekitis culturally but not in a political entity. Deji of Akure used to be part of Ekiti Pelupelu Obas.

All those you mentioned except ikere are part of Akure and they speak Akure. Ikere is entirely Ekiti and they speak Ekiti dialect

Alba3:


Write them let's see. There are variations of Ekiti dialect even within Ekiti, although homogeneous people.

For example

Greetings

Akure... Hin Ara o.

Ekiti... Hi ora o.

Though, it will be very difficult to differentiate

ipodstinks:
All those you mentioned except ikere are part of Akure and they speak Akure. Ikere is entirely Ekiti and they speak Ekiti dialect

So Emure-Ekiti, Igbara-odo are part of Akure? Do little research about Ekiti confederation history. How did Deji found himself in Ekiti Pelupelu Obas before political demarcation? The entire Akure North, South, Ifedore LGA in Ondo state have shared history with Ekitis with little ìjèsà influence just as we find in Igbara-odo, Okemesi, Efon, Ikogosi, etc.

ipodstinks:
For example

Greetings

Akure... Hin Ara o.

Ekiti... Hi ora o.

Though, it will be very difficult to differentiate

Emure, Ise also say...Hi ara o. That's Akure and some Ekiti variation of the same dialect. Some Ekiti will also say 'hin ilẹ́ o' instead of 'hi ora o'; that didn't change them from being Ekiti. Listen to Aramoko, Omuo, Otun, Ado, Igbara-odo (all within Ekiti) but different variations of same dialect.

Alba3:


Not alright! Ondo Ekimigun only shares boundary with Ekitis (in which Akure was part of), You need to listen to some Ondo panegyrics.
Akure dialect is closer to Ise, Emure, etc compared with Ekitis in moba and Kwara to Emure, Ise, Ikere, Ado.
Deji of Akure used to be part of Ekiti Obas' Pelupelu.

Ekitis fought for capital of old Ondo State to be in Akure rather than Ondo town. Maybe you should listen to Akure and other Ekiti traditional music and see if there is any difference.

I thought as much.
And by the way, I don't think it was Ekiti that fought for capital of Old Ondo state to be in Akure rathan than Ondo town. It was because there was no cooperation among the chiefs in Ondo town.
They were deliberating on which lands to release

illicit:
There are no indigenous igbominas and ileshas in Ekiti

Ekiti is full of Ekiti people, they are homogeneous

However, igbomina and ilesha are closely related to Ekitis

seunmsg:


The part in bold is not entirely true. Okemesi-Ekiti and Efon Alaye are Ijesha speaking towns in Ekiti.

Otun Ekiti is also an Igbomina town in Ekiti.

An Ekiti man just confirmed this. Kiriji war alliance must have caused this.

Are the Oworo of Lokoja considered to be Okun or Oworo ?

@op, Owus are in Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Os un, Kwara and in Benin republic

Elliotwaveforec:




An Ekiti man just confirmed this. Kiriji war alliance must have caused this.

The thing is that Ekiti dialect spoken in various towns varies according to the state the particular town borders

That's what u have in Otun, it's near to igbomina towns in Kwara but otun is Stock Ekiti

Fabunmi of Oke imesi was an Ekiti man who had lived in ilesha

Oke imesi and Efon are Ekiti stocks they are just neare to Osun state hence the similarities

Again, migrants are everywhere all over Ekiti but they rather assimilate

illicit:




The thing is that Ekiti dialect spoken in various towns varies according to the state the particular town borders

That's what u have in Otun, it's near to igbomina towns in Kwara but otun is Stock Ekiti

Fabunmi of Oke imesi was an Ekiti man who had lived in ilesha

Oke imesi and Efon are Ekiti stocks they are just neare to Osun state hence the similarities

Again, migrants are everywhere all over Ekiti but they rather assimilate

There's clear difference between the three dialects, there's no way one can take one for the other.

Go to those parts of Ekiti and listen to them, you'd know how different they are. Ijesa and Igbomina dialects are unmistakable; anywhere they speak, you'd know.

Like I said, Kiriji war brought the contiguity

The okun ppl migrated from where, especially Kabba?

ib0221:
@op, Owus are in Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Os un, Kwara and in Benin republic

Which part of Lagos? I know there are Egba and Ijebu located Owu

Obasanjo is Egba Owu

Alba3:


Not alright! Ondo Ekimigun only shares boundary with Ekitis (in which Akure was part of), You need to listen to some Ondo panegyrics.
Akure dialect is closer to Ise, Emure, etc compared with Ekitis in moba and Kwara to Emure, Ise, Ikere, Ado.
Deji of Akure used to be part of Ekiti Obas' Pelupelu.

Ekitis fought for capital of old Ondo State to be in Akure rather than Ondo town. Maybe you should listen to Akure and other Ekiti traditional music and see if there is any difference.

Akure was Part of the 19 th Century Ekiti Parapo Army so was Ijesha

Christistruth00:


Akure was Part of the 19 th Century Ekiti Parapo Army so was Ijesha

Before the Ekiti Parapo, there had been Ekiti confederal states and Pelupelu which Akure was part of, so also towns in Oke Ẹrọ and Ekiti LGAs in Kwara state (also some towns in Akoko like Irun, Ogbagi, though debatable). Ijesa was never part of this, although they are the closest group to Ekitis and they both faced the same existencial conflicts with Ibadan which gave rise to the uprising against the later referred to as Kiriji war.

We only have 5 stocks in Central Yoruba: Ife, Ekiti, Ìjèsà, Igbomina and Yagba. Can we now say Akure is with South Eastern Yoruba of Owo, Ijebu, Ilaje, Ikale, Akoko, Ondo, etc or with North Western Yoruba of Oyo, Ibolo, Owe, Egba, etc?
Among the Yorubas, the thin line that separates Ibolo from Oyo speaking group is same that separates Ìjèsà from Ekiti; they're very very close in everything. Akure have never had different identify until recently because it's the capital city of Ondo state. Go and study the culture, tradition, songs and history of a place like Igbara-Oke, Ilaramoki, Ijede, Iju, etc in Ondo state and compare with places like Igbara-odo, Ogotun, Ikere, Ise, etc in Ekiti.

It's also pathetic to see people saying Otun-Ekiti people are Igbomina (when you still have several Ekiti towns in Kwara after Otun) or Okemesi-Ekiti people are Ìjèsà. Ekiti is the only homogeneous state in the South if not in the entire Nigeria; the same stock of Yoruba people. They are only influenced in the boundary areas by Ijesa, Igbomina, Okun, Akoko, Owo and Ondo dialects of same Yoruba they belong to. The most important thing is Ekiti people understand themselves regardless the version one used unlike some parts of Akoko.

BKayy:

Would you mind posting the map of Itsekiri that has access to sea?

Port city of Koko is Itshekiri. It is Nigeria's most natural port. Koko people consider themselves Edo.

BKayy:

Would you mind posting the map of Itsekiri that has access to sea?

Escravos and Ugbodu are Itsekiri

Alba3:


Before the Ekiti Parapo, there had been Ekiti confederal states and Pelupelu which Akure was part of, so also towns in Oke Ẹrọ and Ekiti LGAs in Kwara state. Ijesa was never part of this, although they are the closest group to Ekitis and they both faced the same existencial conflicts with Ibadan which gave rise to the uprising against the later referred to as Kiriji war.

We only have 5 stocks in Central Yoruba: Ife, Ekiti, Ìjèsà, Igbomina and Yagba. Are you now saying Akure is with South Eastern Yoruba of Owo, Ijebu, Ilaje, Ikale, Akoko, Ondo, etc or with North Western Yoruba of Oyo, Ibolo, Owe, Egba, etc?
Among the Yorubas, the thin line that separates Ibolo from Oyo speaking group is same that separates Ìjèsà from Ekiti; they're very very close in everything. Akure have never had different identify until recently because it's the capital city of Ondo state. Go and study the culture, tradition, songs and history of a place like Igbara-Oke, Ilaramoki, Ijede, Iju, etc in Ondo state and compare with places like Igbara-odo, Ogotun, Ikere, Ise, etc in Ekiti.

It's also pathetic to see people saying Otun-Ekiti people are Igbomina or Okemesi-Ekiti people are Ìjèsà. Ekiti is the only homogeneous state in the South if not in the entire Nigeria; the same stock of Yoruba people. They are only influenced in the boundary areas by Ijesa, Igbomina, Okun, Akoko, Owo and Ondo dialects of same Yoruba they belong to.

Otun Ekiti was the leading Ekiti Town

It was such an important Historical Yoruba Town that when it was Carved into the Northern Region pressure was put on the British Colonial Government until it was remerged with the Western Region again

The People of Otun Ekiti Migrated from Lagos in the 15 th Century and share a Similar Ancestry with the Awori of Lagos
they are all descendants of Olofin Ogunfuminire

Otun Ekiti was where the Ooni had divided Yorubaland into 2 spheres of Influence between Benin and Oyo to make sure his Sons would not be fighting each other instead of Expanding Yorubaland and that rule held till about the 16 th Century

Benin tried to Capture Otun Ekiti 4 times but always failed

In the 1870s Ogendengbe and the Ekiti Parapo Army almost took over Benin but decided that their Independence from Ibadan was the bigger prize they needed after much begging and gifts from the Oba of Benin to Ogendengbe Benin was let off the hook

Christistruth00:



Otun Ekiti was the leading Ekiti Town

It was such an important Historical Yoruba Town that when it was Carved into the Northern Region pressure was put on the British Colonial Government until it was remerged with the Western Region again

The People of Otun Ekiti Migrated from Lagos in the 15 th Century and share a Similar Ancestry with the Awori of Lagos
they are all descendants of Olofin Ogunfuminire

Otun Ekiti was where the Ooni had divided Yorubaland into 2 spheres of Influence between Benin and Oyo to make sure his Sons would not be fighting each other instead of Expanding Yorubaland and that rule held till about the 16 th Century

Benin tried to Capture Otun Ekiti 4 times but always failed

In the 1870s Ogendengbe and the Ekiti Parapo Army almost took over Benin but decided that their Independence from Ibadan was the bigger prize they needed after much begging and gifts from the Oba of Benin to Ogendengbe Benin was let off the hook

I agree with this. Moreover, we have three sets of Ekitis: those that shared common ancestors with Igala, Akokos, igodo, etc called Uraurẹ, the Obatala people called Ulesun and the recent, Omo Olofin, Omo Owa from Ifẹ; they form the ruling class in every town.

Sammy07:
Why u no mention Ife?

Ife has a language of her own.

And Ife language is different from Ijesha

He did. Just the confusing synonymous mentioning of Ife with Ifewàrà.

ipodstinks:
Tell me how Akure speak Ekiti dialect. I want to know how you know the both than I do. Cos I am associated with both of them.

I will write same word in both Akure and Ekiti down for you right now.

Akure speaks a variant of Ekiti dialect my brother. It is just like Ife and Ifetedo

BKayy:

Please ignore me for some time now because I can't stop laughing.
I just found out that Edo/Urhobo/Isoko, Itsekiri/Esan and other Minorities in Ẹdo and Delta are entirely cut off from the sea by only Ijaw.
They are padlocked and landlocked by Ijaw lol .
Now I know why Bini is after Lagos.
Lol

Check out the thread

https://www.nairaland.com/6612823/original-map-nigeria-guess-landlocked#102925427

Same IJAW with the Ibibios and Efiks cut your access to the sea..

Christistruth00:



Which part of Lagos? I know there are Egba and Ijebu located Owu

Obasanjo is Egba Owu

First there is nothing called Egba Ow u. Simply Ow u in Abeokuta. Furthermore, I can give some in Lagos such as: Owu Ikosi, Owu Gbawojo, Ow u Igbooye, Owu Mosafejo (Badagry) and Ow u Maiyegun ( Et I- Os a), OwU Mushin.

theTranslator:

Bini guys never said they weren't landlocked


And Itsekiri isn't landlocked

The map is not correct

We never said we were not landlocked, atleast someone could vouch for us

BKayy:

Please ignore me for some time now because I can't stop laughing.
I just found out that Edo/Urhobo/Isoko, Itsekiri/Esan and other Minorities in Ẹdo and Delta are entirely cut off from the sea by only Ijaw.
They are padlocked and landlocked by Ijaw lol .
Now I know why Bini is after Lagos.
Lol

Check out the thread

https://www.nairaland.com/6612823/original-map-nigeria-guess-landlocked#102925427

We never denied being landlocked, but you dotians keep denying the obvious

Okay they can pack and return to Yoruba land now

ib0221:

First there is nothing called Egba Ow u. Simply Ow u in Abeokuta. Furthermore, I can give some in Lagos such as: Owu Ikosi, Owu Gbawojo, Ow u Igbooye, Owu Mosafejo (Badagry) and Ow u Maiyegun ( Et I- Os a), OwU Mushin.

Ok Owu in Egbaland, Thank you

Please what of Modakeke some say they are Oyo others Claim they are Owu but most of the Elders have Owu Tribal Marks and yet still Claim an Oyo ancestry