Lionessza6:


Yes, we agree that every country in Africa is in trouble , but what we will not take is being ridiculed by Nigerians, nigerians of all people? Never !. You people don't have what it takes to ridicule and belittle other Africans, its actually silly that you think you'd get away with it without being dealt with .

It's okay. It's pointless arguing with you because you know many bad things about Nigeria and Nigerians with some facts.

Because you will surely respond to every points raised.

But there's a Nigerian adage that says: "Na one day problem dey start, and na one day the problem dey end." No matter how long it takes to get there, we shall surely get there by any means necessary.

Fejoku:

Ok impressive but I could only single out 5 strong points and they are points 1, 7, 8, 10 and 12. The rest do not have enough punch to be counted. Examples are like the lack of retaliation for xenophobia. What retaliation were you expecting outside the destruction of South African businesses in Nigeria? Do you expect Nigerians to attack you consulate and the South Africans there? You can't expect the Nigerian government to lash out on your country because your government has not claimed to support the xenophobia done by her misguided citizens. Other weak points like saying that Nigeria rules in the music industry but most of her best production comes from South Africa is not a point. In fact, the point should go to Nigeria. Is it the various political positions South Africans managed to get on the continent recently that you even count as points? I could so many political positions Nigeria have occupied in Africa that will dwarf those you listed. If you must list a point based on contested official position, let it be based on intellectual success or talent of the person involved. We all know Black Mambazo and their achievements. This is what a point should be.
I agree that South Africa's infrastructure could be the best in Africa but we all know it's not entirely/ not even 50% done by black South Africans but I'll still count it for you. So, only 6 points is what you have now. I'll have to bring my own points to counter them. Let me google them because I'm not usually into this sort of competition. Will be back before evening.

1. Yeah, not all the points were gonna be relevant to your question coz it was an old discussion with its own unique history. The guy wanted me to state the value of black South Africans vs Nigerians.

2. Why Nigeria cannot afford a stand-off with South Africa

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/9/9/why-nigeria-cannot-afford-a-stand-off-with-south-africa

3. That South Africa produces your music videos and commercial adverts is an indictment, that was my point, for a country that considers itself the giant of Africa.

4. Please go ahead and state all the high-profile positions held by Nigeria in Africa over time, bearing in mind SA has only been on the scene for 27 years and you guys for 60. And many SA politicians were given inferior education under apartheid and yet still outsmart you in politics and economic development.

5. It's unfair to give credit to whites for apartheid era infrastructure and not blacks for democratic era infrastructure. If you gonna argue that it's white investment driving current black infrastructure then you should also admit foreign investment from Europe and the US was used to build white infrastructure during apartheid. Fact is that whoever is governing has the brains to attract good investment towards developing the country.

Checkout attachments for some black government successes. It doesn't even mention economic infrastructure, just social improvements. Things you still lack in Nigeria after 60 years of independence

6. Lol , are you done googling? It's something past-evening now.

emmnprince:


It's okay. It's pointless arguing with you because you know many bad things about Nigeria and Nigerians with some facts.

Because you will surely respond to every points raised.

But there's a Nigerian adage that says: "Na one day problem dey start, and na one day the problem dey end." No matter how long it takes to get there, we shall surely get there by any means necessary.

That's the spirit . We all want to see other African countries progressing so that none will be a burden to another ,but partners and allies.

Lionessza6:



LMFAO, ofcourse you worship foreigners but you do everything to bring each other down . There's no greater love than the love of self ,no one will respect Nigerians citizens knowing that they are shyt even in their own country.

We don't worship foreigners, we treat them well.

As I said, factors are responsible for the mistreatment of ourselves in certain areas, and shall be resolved. The recent happenings in Nigeria is a clue that something BIG will happen in the near future if our leaders continue to tread on this path of "divide and rule"

Lionessza6:



Just like you people are still suffering from the after effects of the war ? . The deep hatred between the South Easterners and other Nigerians especially the west & the north is quiet telling . When will you heal and embrace one another as brothers ?

But my reply isn't meant for your consumption and reply na!

We're not suffering from the after effects of the civil war for your information, our suffering goes beyond that, and upon your knowledge about Nigeria and Nigerians, you don't know. Well, you're not supposed to anyway! Only Nigerians can relate to the root cause of her problems and we're getting there to deal with it squarely.

emmnprince:


We don't worship foreigners, we treat them well.

As I said, factors are responsible for the mistreatment of ourselves in certain areas, and shall be resolved. The recent happenings in Nigeria is a clue that something BIG will happen in the near future if our leaders continue to tread on this path of "divide and rule"

Ok then ,good for you. But I'll say this again, how you treat one another is how the world will treat you when you leave nigeria. How can you love a total stranger but hate your own brother? Very odd.

emmnprince:


But my reply isn't meant for your consumption and reply na!

We're not suffering from the after effects of the civil war for your information, our suffering goes beyond that, and upon your knowledge about Nigeria and Nigerians, you don't know. Well, you're not supposed to anyway! Only Nigerians can relate to the root cause of her problems and we're getting there to deal with it squarely.

And yet you think you can psychoanalyse South Africans? . Didn't I tell you people from the beginning of this thread that you're the last people to talk smack about others ,you have far too many problems and painful events in your past and present. Ridiculing others should be the last thing on your minds, your problems make you an easy target .

Omoh the man looks high to me. Seems like THC effects.

Lionessza6:


And yet you think you can psychoanalyse South Africans? . Didn't I tell you people from the beginning of this thread that you're the last people to talk smack about others ,you have far too many problems and painful events in your past and present. Ridiculing others should be the last thing on your minds, your problems make you an easy target .

Lioness Simba, you no go leave me alone make I rest ni. I just come back from work o. I no get strength for further arguments.

Problem no dey finish for this life. Nigeria may be better tomorrow in some areas where she is trailing behind SA now, and vice versa.

Abeg make I rest well.

TMKsouth:


[s]1. Yeah, not all the points were gonna be relevant to your question coz it was an old discussion with its own unique history. The guy wanted me to state the value of black South Africans vs Nigerians.

2. Why Nigeria cannot afford a stand-off with South Africa

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/9/9/why-nigeria-cannot-afford-a-stand-off-with-south-africa

3. That South Africa produces your music videos and commercial adverts is an indictment, that was my point, for a country that considers itself the giant of Africa.

4. Please go ahead and state all the high-profile positions held by Nigeria in Africa over time, bearing in mind SA has only been on the scene for 27 years and you guys for 60. And many SA politicians were given inferior education under apartheid and yet still outsmart you in politics and economic development.

5. It's unfair to give credit to whites for apartheid era infrastructure and not blacks for democratic era infrastructure. If you gonna argue that it's white investment driving current black infrastructure then you should also admit foreign investment from Europe and the US was used to build white infrastructure during apartheid. Fact is that whoever is governing has the brains to attract good investment towards developing the country.

Checkout attachments for some black government successes. It doesn't even mention economic infrastructure, just social improvements. Things you still lack in Nigeria after 60 years of independence

6. Lol , are you done googling? It's something past-evening now.[/s]

Bozo! you are so full of trash, infact you are an epitome of trash, don't bother replying me.

KingOfAmebo:


Without Nigeria your sorry ass won't be listing achievement or brag about how you are now better than Nigeria, Nigeria rescued your sorry ass black South African brothers and sisters from your white masters during the apartheid now you have the guts to be making comparison....South African ingrates.

Invoice us, we'll pay you back - we can afford it, even double But you wouldn't dare coz you know you're overstating your role.

Kenneth Kaunda just passed away and most South Africans were devastated, his passing and Zambia were top trends in SA, and we declared 10 whole days of mourning in SA for a foreign leader. Those are the people whose contribution is well documented and SA appreciates.

Truly, we know absolutely nothing about YOU "rescuing our black as*es from our white masters". But like I said, invoice us and we'll review your claims and mail you back an envelope full of antelope poo .

Thanks. Goodnite.

Iceyjayz:
Bozo! you are so full of trash, infact you are an epitome of trash, don't bother replying me.

LOL , u still exist Diceygayz?

Lionessza6:



I repeat ; your passport is weak because of your toxic nature, in every country you go to ,your people are treated with suspicion. Facts! You need to work on that image yourselves before lecturing others ,dont you think ?

I have cautiously taken my time to know the true face and intent of your identity. I must say you are a victim of psychological abuse perhaps, hate and discrimination that is why everything you churn out is about negativity, hatred, xenophobic, perhaps due to your South African dysfunctional system. Let me educate your ignorance and go and do your facts check, Nigerian in its height of insecurity and political saga is about 10 times safer to live than your South African country and a host of developing and developed country that name blame and name shame Nigerians everywhere you find us. Your police system is strong but also not absolved from corruption and your South African government. Everywhere you see Nigerians, a good number of us excel far much better than our host nation wherever we find ourselves in a saner clime.

Back in your home country, a lot of you South African have hatred for Nigerians out of inferiority complex not really because we are better but because of your dysfunctional media hyped of Nigerians shortcomings. Unconsciously, you have assumed every Nigerian as your greatest Nightmare because our exposure to tough times dont break us but make us. That is why we are resilient and formidable where ever we find ourselves. I am not saying Nigeria is also not devoid of her share of bad elements or bad eggs as it exist in every extraction... But I must be quick here to diagnose you of your cancer and disease eating you up from the inside. You have a big hatred of social identity deep rooted within you or that has haunted you due to your dysfunctional social upbringing, that is fast killing you to a point of psychological extinction. The earlier the better you start seeing the good in every other extraction aside Nigerians, the better for your life.

Your country is a host to a lot of obscene crime that you most likely would not find in Nigeria and drug peddling by drug Cartels or drug Mafians is at the top of the long list. you owe every Nigerian and other National extraction you have ever hated a big apology and for the likes of your circle. If you want to be educated, ask a Nigerian, if you want to be informed ask a Nigerian, If you want to excel in whatever you do, ask a Nigerian and am sure you would get a candid and convincing opinion or point. Even if we were to tell a lie, we don't hide it as no one can fake a lie, we own up to our mess and our glory. So my dear, be honest with yourself first before you seek honesty and truth in others. You dont have to kill yourself nor continue to choke yourself in your hate twist.

Most of your country assets and economic strength and GDP are funded by Nigerian business Mogul who pumped fund into your country since the 60s and 70s, during your apartheid struggle before Nigerian was instrumental to the end of the apartheid struggle in the early 90s, Am sure you were not born then. Nigeria has long been a standing nation in Africa that most African countries has saddled on her back to get to wherever most of them find themselves today in the measure of economic strength. You need a time out to indulge yourself in constructive and perusal history. Only then can your ignorance be exposed and you can be a free man from your embroiled grief, bitterness and shackles that binds your heart and blanket your short sightedness. No doubt Nigeria as a country has its local and domiciled challenges like every other countries of the world own up to theirs, but sticking out your finger to pick out the speck in others eyes while you have a log of wood in your eyes is illogical or a logical delusion. I defend my father land and my people wherever I find myself because only a person with a lost identity would enjoin the packs and gang of arsonist would enjoin others to burn down is fathers house and root. Don't go about pointing gun at others if truly you don't intend to use it because its rebuff can be rebrutal.

A life unexamined is not worth living. A child who is not informed is deformed. Coming on a Nigeeian social media to attack Nigerian with your cyber war is a clueless expedition. I would be sorry for you if your account is not deactivated in no distance time before your hate and toxic and narcissistic perception of others choke you and kill you. May you receive the light.....!!!

Lionessza6:



Yes,and we will keep on blaming them for the heneious crimes they commit here ;

Keep your blame game to yourself and the likes of inhumane debauched circle because nobody would buy it. You are a culprit here as your product and attack on Nigerians wont fly. If truly you have a beef or grievance on Nigerians and you want to prove it, be constructive and innovate or you die!!!!

emmnprince:


It's okay. It's pointless arguing with you because you know many bad things about Nigeria and Nigerians with some facts.

Because you will surely respond to every points raised.

But there's a Nigerian adage that says: "Na one day problem dey start, and na one day the problem dey end." No matter how long it takes to get there, we shall surely get there by any means necessary.

I disagree with you on this. Never condescend with an alien to humiliate your national existence. You are a Nigerian and you have to defend it because if you meet the beast of a lady in her home country, she may not wait for you to explain to her that you are one of the good Nigerians before she would rally a local mob to take your life.. I stand to defend my country no matter what... I don't speak ill of other Nationals and won't take any humiliation metted on me or anyone I know because of my National extraction. Everyone is your equal in humanity. Abuse of any sort is not an excuse.

TMKsouth:


Invoice us, we'll pay you back - we can afford it, even double But you wouldn't dare coz you know you're overstating your role.

Kenneth Kaunda just passed away and most South Africans were devastated, his passing and Zambia were top trends in SA, and we declared 10 whole days of mourning in SA for a foreign leader. Those are the people whose contribution is well documented and SA appreciates.

Truly, we know absolutely nothing about YOU "rescuing our black as*es from our white masters". But like I said, invoice us and we'll review your claims and mail you back an envelope full of antelope poo .

Thanks. Goodnite.

A life unexamined is not worth living. You really need to unlearn to relearn. There is no inferior race in humanity as everyone is your equal in humanity though privileges may differ. You truly need to purge your self of the negative energy collapsing your world from the inside. Only then can you stop blaming others or Nigerians for your woes and shortcomings. I am not here to engage in a cyber warfare nor blind argument but on expedition for constructive discourse. May you receive the light.....!

TMKsouth:


1. Yeah, not all the points were gonna be relevant to your question coz it was an old discussion with its own unique history. The guy wanted me to state the value of black South Africans vs Nigerians.

2. Why Nigeria cannot afford a stand-off with South Africa

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/9/9/why-nigeria-cannot-afford-a-stand-off-with-south-africa

3. That South Africa produces your music videos and commercial adverts is an indictment, that was my point, for a country that considers itself the giant of Africa.

4. Please go ahead and state all the high-profile positions held by Nigeria in Africa over time, bearing in mind SA has only been on the scene for 27 years and you guys for 60. And many SA politicians were given inferior education under apartheid and yet still outsmart you in politics and economic development.

5. It's unfair to give credit to whites for apartheid era infrastructure and not blacks for democratic era infrastructure. If you gonna argue that it's white investment driving current black infrastructure then you should also admit foreign investment from Europe and the US was used to build white infrastructure during apartheid. Fact is that whoever is governing has the brains to attract good investment towards developing the country.

Checkout attachments for some black government successes. It doesn't even mention economic infrastructure, just social improvements. Things you still lack in Nigeria after 60 years of independence

6. Lol , are you done googling? It's something past-evening now.

This is no forum to promote narcissistic intentions nor superiority of an extraction over another. You must be a coward to come on a Nigerian forum to intimidate Nigerian and display your social and psychological misdemeanor. You have lost the fight already before you ever started..... Nigeria is not your refuse dump nor your garbage bin. Go and tell your government to fix your country and if you don't love the Nigerian faces then push for a Nigerian repatriation bill we still have a beautiful and a safer home to call a country.

I don't have to be in your country to tell the difference because the world is a global village and almost every one knows that. And whoever speak evil about you is either they envy your dexterity, your privilege and what you have or something is not right because only failures blame others or give excuses for their short comings. You and I know the figure and tally of Nigerians doing great things in the USA and the rest Nation of the world today just like every other well meaning person of other national extract. Stop your hate against Nigerians and other Nationals wherever you find them because Karma is real and you are sure to get served and probably the last man that may come to your rescue could be a Nigerian. So save your hate and blame game. You are not in a position to talk about Nigerian when you don't live in Nigeria nor endure what we endure. You cannot write a man story when you are not part of his struggle and glory. May you receive the light...

Ade3000yrs:
A life unexamined is not worth living. You really need to unlearn to relearn. There is no inferior race in humanity as everyone is your equal in humanity though privileges may differ. You truly need to purge your self of the negative energy collapsing your world from the inside. Only then can you stop blaming others or Nigerians for your woes and shortcomings. I am not here to engage in a cyber warfare nor blind argument but on expedition for constructive discourse. May you receive the light.....!

@bold when did I do this? I'm perplexed

Ade3000yrs:


This is no forum to promote narcissistic intentions nor superiority of an extraction over another. You must be a coward to come on a Nigerian forum to intimidate Nigerian and display your social and psychological misdemeanor.
You have lost the fight already before you ever started..... Nigeria is not your refuse dump nor your garbage bin. Go and tell your government to fix your country and if you don't love the Nigerian faces then push for a Nigerian repatriation bill we still have a beautiful and a safer home to call a country.

I don't have to be in your country to tell the difference because the world is a global village and almost every one knows that. And whoever speak evil about you is either they envy your dexterity, your privilege and what you have or something is not right because only failures blame others or give excuses for their short comings. You and I know the figure and tally of Nigerians doing great things in the USA and the rest Nation of the world today just like every other well meaning person of other national extract. Stop your hate against Nigerians and other Nationals wherever you find them because Karma is real and you are sure to get served and probably the last man that may come to your rescue could be a Nigerian. So save your hate and blame game. You are not in a position to talk about Nigerian when you don't live in Nigeria nor endure what we endure. You cannot write a man story when you are not part of his struggle and glory. May you receive the light...

@bolded 'm having a decent debate with your countryman so I don't know what you're on about.

And he didn't even see his iPad before the show ends.

The first time I used a mac was in the library in school in Appleton prior to this you never even saw one. If in Africa many citizens get the chance to be educated with and even make enough money to buy who will steal an iPad ?

Africa does not provide the tools for citizens to learn and achieve greatness on their own it must be tied to something so the fight is always new technology and passion

most people just do what they deem necessary to survive since they can no longer afford to be educated and companies are overfilled.

Elon Musk left SA and became an inventor. We don’t have to push our citizens away to become great it starts from how we see our selves. Think of Dubai if you want to do something incredible do something nobody else is doing.. have the vision lay the foundation and build.

Your people are hungry and jobless put them to work and you’ll see the crime rate will reduce all around the world

TMKsouth:


Invoice us, we'll pay you back - we can afford it, even double But you wouldn't dare coz you know you're overstating your role.

Kenneth Kaunda just passed away and most South Africans were devastated, his passing and Zambia were top trends in SA, and we declared 10 whole days of mourning in SA for a foreign leader. Those are the people whose contribution is well documented and SA appreciates.

Truly, we know absolutely nothing about YOU "rescuing our black as*es from our white masters". But like I said, invoice us and we'll review your claims and mail you back an envelope full of antelope poo .

Thanks. Goodnite.

On a final note:

Someone actually said this about South Africans and I believe this is very true...


" don't stress yourself over their matter!

Apartheid made them to be toxic. They cultivated that trait for many years and it became “genetically formed.” This was passed on to their children.

Since foreigners oppressed them in their land during Apartheid era, they see foreigners as threat after they had their freedom up to today, hence the toxic behaviour."

What a perfect description to your illness.