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| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Kobojunkie: 2:20pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
malvisguy212:1. We are living a lawless time when all of God's eternal Laws are still in full force? ![]() 2. The population of those in the world who claim to belong to the Kingdom of God, where Jesus Christ is the Law , is well over 2.5 billion, yet you claim we are living in a lawless time? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Kobojunkie: 2:21pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
clericuzzio:You have a very very good head on you there. ![]() |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Kobojunkie: 2:24pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
justfrankz:1. The "antichrist" will take over the body of an already dead man, not even a living one? 2. The son of perdition is Judas iscariot? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by zinizta: 2:25pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
awitness41:To understand that you have to go back to the old Snake's 'gospel' in the garden of Eden. The snake preached 'equality with God'... 'self reliance outside God' . God on the other hand always has a do and don't guideline. Satanism is basically equality with God and freedom from His 'restrictive guidelines' and unfortunately, our fallen nature is more inclined to Satan than God. |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Kobojunkie: 2:29pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
bjayx:Here's a question for you. If Jesus Christ is God's Law in the Kingdom of God and that which is antichrist is that which is against Jesus Christ's very commandments .I.e. it obviously has to operate within the confines of the Law - it has to first believe the law is- only to works against it. So why it is called "lawless" in this case? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Kobojunkie: 2:32pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
Ajjpsalm:According to Jesus Christ, the way to abide by the Law is instead to submit to and obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's very own Law to us. ![]() Jesus Christ said that those who love Him are those who submit to and obey His Truth - His teachings and commandments -, not those who say things with their mouth to Him. ![]() |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by bjayx: 2:34pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Most times, the translation from languages might not give a full meaning to its context. The lawless one was used because there'll be so much immorality during his reign without any opposition till his end will come. No matter how much U pray or fight it. |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Kobojunkie: 2:37pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
Osanoghodua1:1. But Jesus Christ said His Kingdom is not of this world - His Law is not for those who are of this world even- so why would the laws of the world, even if regarding regarding things as gay marriage etc. matter where the Kingdom of God is concerned? ![]() 2. According to the Gospel, the son of perdition was Judas. Is Judas coming back again? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Kobojunkie: 2:40pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
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| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Kobojunkie: 2:41pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
obi4eze:But every sin you commit is antichrist and everyone who lives in iniquity is living an antichrist existence? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Kobojunkie: 2:44pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
McLizbae:Really? ![]() Sin is disobedience of God's direct comandments/rules given us through Jesus Christ, God's own Law. So every sin is antichrist in nature. ![]() Those who sin are those who reject God, the wicked. Doesn't it then follow that those who live in iniquity .i.e. the wicked are antichrist? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by APOSTLECHUMA: 2:56pm On Jun 27, 2021*. Modified: 3:25pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
THE LAWLESS ONE, WHO IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE MAN OF SIN IS THE ANTICHRIST. TO KNOW WHO THIS EVIL MAN WHO HAS NO RESPECT FOR GOD'S WORD IS, GO TO 2THESS 2:3-5. THERE THE BIBLE SAID THAT HE IS IN THE TEMPLE CLAIMING TO BE GOD, RECEIVING WORSHIP ETC. TEMPLE IS CHURCH AND TO FIND OUT WHICH CHURCH THIS EVIL ONE WENT INTO AND HID HIMSELF AND IS THERE, PRESENTING HIMSELF AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, GO TO REV 17. MYSTERY BABYLON IS A CHURCH BECAUSE WOMEN WERE USED ALL THROUGH THE BIBLE AS SYMBOLS OF CHURCHES. E.G CHRIST IS COMING FOR A CHURCH WITHOUT SPOT OR WRINKLE AND THAT CHURCH IS THE BRIDE AND BRIDE REPRESENTS WOMEN. MYSTERY BABYLON IS A LovePeddler- A WOMAN THAT LIVES UNCLEAN THAT COMMITS FORNICATION SPIRITUALLY. SPIRITUAL FORNICATION HERE MEANS THAT SHE DOES NOT ABIDE BY BIBLE TEACHINGS BUT IS ALWAYS REMOVING FROM BIBLE DOCTRINES AND ADDING HER OWN MAN MADE DOGMAS INTO THE BODY OF THE SAINTS. THIS WOMAN IS STANDING ON MANY WATERS, WHICH REPRESENTS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE EARTH, MAKING HER THE LARGEST CHURCH ON EARTH. SHE IS DECKED WITH PRECIOUS STONES AND SILVER WHICH MAKES HER THE RICHEST CHURCH ALSO. TO MAKE IT BRIEF, THIS WOMAN WAS ALSO CALLED A CITY THAT REIGNS OVER THE KINGS OF THE EARTH, WHICH MEANS THAT THIS CHURCH IS LOCATED UPON A CERTAIN CITY ON EARTH. GOD SO RICH IN LOVE AND MERCY HELPING US TO KNOW THE VERY CITY WHERE THIS CHURCH IS LOCATED SO THAT WE WILL KNOW THE MAN AND AVOID ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH HIM, SINCE THE BIBLE TOLD US THAT HE WILL BE REVEALED, MADE US TO KNOW IN THESAME REV 17, THAT THE WOMAN HAS 7 HEADS, WHICH ARE 7 MOUNTAINS. THIS KEY IS THE UNIQUE KEY THAT UNLOCKED THE SECRET OF THE CHURCH WERE THIS MAN OF SIN IS HIDDING. ONLY ONE CITY ON EARTH UP TO THIS PRESENT TIME STILL HAS 7 MOUNTAINS AND THATS VATICAN, THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE CHURCH OF ROME. IT IS IN THIS CHURCH THAT WE HAVE A MAN SEATED IN THE TEMPLE AS 2THESS 2:3-5 SAID, ANSWERING HOLY FATHER, PRINCE OF PEACE AND TAKING ALL THE GLORY THAT OUGHT TO BE GOING TO GOD, CLAIMING THE POWER OF INFALLIBILITY THERE BY MAKING HIMSELF GOD. REV 13:16-18 TOLD US TO COUNT THE NUM OF THE BEAST THAT IT IS A MAN'S NUM AND THE NUM OF HIS NAME. VICARIVS FILEII DEI--WHICH IS INSCRIBED IN THE GLASS SEAT OF THE PAPACY WHEN BROKEN DOWN IN ROMAN FIGURES, GIVES 666. WHO SO EVER MADE THIS POST IS SUPPOSED TO DO THIS EXPOSITION TO HELP THE GENERAL PUBLIC, NOT TO ASK THE QUESTIONS HE DID, WHICH DIDNT BRING OUT THE REAL CONTENT OF 2THESS 2:3--DOWN. cfountainoftruth@gmail.com |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by DeRichard(m): 3:14pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
awitness41:The man of sin is the antichrist. |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by benji93: 4:18pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
Why do you opine the bolded is the case? The little child analogy was clearly made by Jesus in reference to righteousness. awitness41: |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by malvisguy212: 4:37pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:i think you're confused |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Kobojunkie: 4:39pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
malvisguy212:I am afraid I am not the confused one here. ![]() |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Nobody: 5:23pm On Jun 27, 2021*. Modified: 6:29pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Away, Satan. And to all - beware of this person called Kobojunkie who puts forth "some truth" in order to mix in his many lies. He is a son of Satan, and will burn along with his father if he doesn't repent. If you need more proof of Kobojunkie's evil, try this: https://www.nairaland.com/6611025/what-it-10-commandments-infuriates/1#103126946 Jesus Christ is NOT the Law in God's Kingdom, as KJ attempts to embed this into the minds of people to deceive, repeating it over and over, in this and other posts, dropping it as devil-bait to the unsuspecting. There is not one Verse in Scripture to even imply that Christ IS the Law. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, but NOT the Law itself. Jesus Christ kept the Law, and and tells us all to do the same (as He also told the rich young ruler). But Jesus is NOT the Law HImself. Again, beware of the evil deceiver Kobojunkie, a son of perdition. The Lord rebuke him! That had to be said. But truly, up till the time I read stuff from Kobojunkie the devil, I was enjoying reading most of the posts in here, as many people seem to be involved and aware that sin is transgression of the Law, and that the lawless man of sin is obviously no good. In fact, anything to do with lawlessness, which is sin, is no good. But which Law ? (And yes, some people in here specified it.) When Paul refers to the lawless one as the man of sin, he cannot possibly be referring to the former Law of Moses for the Jewish people regarding priests, feasts, sacrifices, and rituals like circumcision, since Paul rightly tells us that these things do not need to be kept in accordance with the New Covenant, after Christ was crucified on the Cross. But Paul definitely is equating lawlessness to sin, because he himself knows that sin is the transgression of the Law. The Bible specifically defines sin in three ways: 1 John 3:4 (NKJV): "Sin is the transgression of the Law." 1 John 5:17 (NKJV): "All unrighteousness is sin." James 4:17 (NKJV): "Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin." If we put these together to keep "All Truth" of the matter, we see that sin is the transgression of the Law, a Law which defines "all righteousness" (to which James also agrees... not doing that which we know is righteous, that is, what is right). Paul Himself also points to this Law in Romans 7:7 (NKJV): "I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, 'You shall not covet.'" It can therefore be no other Law except God's Moral Law, the 10 Commandments founded upon the 2 Most Important Commandments. If anyone tries to deceive you on this matter, just read the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, or even any one of those Books, to learn and keep what Jesus Christ teaches on this matter. If the unrighteousness of having other gods, or worshipping idols, or using God's Name in vain, or not keeping a Proper Sabbath, or dishonoring parents, or murder, or adultery, or stealing, or lying, or coveting is sin (and it is), then you know which Law it is. And the Law also includes the Two Most Important Commandments, which the Law is founded on (Jesus tells us this too). If we learn the Truth from Jesus before taking anyone else's word for it, we will never be deceived ! Peace to all of good heart toward God. ------- A final note for the interested... Jesus' definition of "wicked": Jesus teaches us that the “wicked” are those who “practice lawlessness”. Simply compare Matthew 13:40-42 with Matthew 13:49-50: Matthew 13:40-42 (NKJV): 40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV): 49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. Jesus also tells us that those who practice lawlessness will not be going to Heaven in Matthew 7:23. Stay away from sin, brothers and sisters... and don't listen to anyone who thinks Paul's Letters are an excuse for attempting to modify or throw out God's Commandments, for such people are wicked, and without repentance will be just another face in the crowd on the wide road to destruction subject to “all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 (NKJV) |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Vmotors: 6:00pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
61-0806 - # 95 - The Seventieth Week Of Daniel Now, go on over here in Revelation 13 and show you that this man sits in a city, and the city sits on seven hills. And the numbers of the beast is 666. Wrote out in the Latin—Roman alphabet—is 666 is “Vicarius Filii Dei,” which is “instead of the Son of God,” on the pope's throne. And he's got a triple crown. And I've looked right at the crown, stood as close as my hand is to my face, like that, and seen the decked crown of the pope right there in the Vatican. Myself, stood and looked at it, to be sure I'd know what I was talking about. He opposes himself above all that's called God, all the godly men. He's the holiest of all of them. Sits in the temple of God, just showing himself he is God, forgiving sins on earth, and so forth, you know. Sure. |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Vmotors: 6:00pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
54-0513 - # 50 - The Mark Of The Beast Like everywhere in the Scripture, from the beginning of the Gentile plumb back from Genesis, I can prove that Babylon begin in Genesis and ends up in Revelation. Started out back there with Nimrod, the son of Ham, through idolatry, to bring idols in, to worship idols. And it's come right down through, and is so cunning in the last days till it takes on the name of Christianity, and still, idolatry! Didn't the great Saint Paul, in II Thessalonians say...? Let's just read it before we go any farther. II Thessalonians, 2nd chapter, you see what Paul said here. He even saw it in the Spirit before it even ... coming into the day that we're living in. Well, my, how the day that we're living in, the darkness that we're living in, and men and women groping about here in pagan darkness and don't even know it. What a ... what a pity! How the day.... Paul said, “That day should not come, unless there come a falling away first, and the man of sin be revealed.” Now, watch, he declares him to be a man. Is that right? Paul said, “He was a man of sin, who opposes himself above all that's called God, so that is worshipped as God....” A man worshipped as God; a man that would be put here as a form of worship. And he said, “That day could not come except first there come a falling away.” What is it? A lukewarm condition of the church. All right. Listen. Let me read it for you if you will, II Thessalonians. All right. I can get the right place now, to begin, so we won't have to read so much. Let no man deceive you.... (3rd verse, II Thessalonians, 2nd chapter.) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, (the Laodicean church age now) ... and that man (m-a-n, singular) ... man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (instead of the Son of God), son of perdition. Who opposes himself and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped as God; ... that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. (Accepting confessions!) |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Ogbuefi2020: 6:01pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
the man of lawlessness is Anthiochus IV the king of Greek Selucid empire, Paul was ignorant |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Kobojunkie: 6:02pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
Vmotors:Really? ![]() Which one of the popes? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by IAMPEDRO: 6:12pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
awitness41:Question 3: Sin is an offence against the Divine law. Even without laws are we not suppose to know what's right? We ought to know. |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Kobojunkie: 6:15pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
Ogbuefi2020:King of Greece was the man of lawlessness? How so? ![]() |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by oranget(m): 7:59pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
Ogbuefi2020:Hehe, some people and their theories. Paul was ignorant but you are well informed |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Mimiz22: 9:22pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
The antichrist |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by GlobalWay: 9:11am On Jun 28, 2021 |
awitness41:He that approves and pushes Worldwide homosexuality, beastiality, godlessless, secret wickeness, secret human inhumanity to humans, eugenics, genetically changing the DNA/RNA of Humanity to make Humans unfit to Host the HOLY SPIRIT of the CREATOR, etc. You and others can add yours. Many can see the Man of Sin already ruling the World by his forerunner, just like John came before JESUS. CORONAtion and Enthronement of the AntiChrist has began in full, yet many self-deceitive fellow are burying their heads in Sand instead of standing their Ground has JESUS warned in Revelation that hold fast that which you have so that you shall not lose it. You allow the Temple of the Living God to be tampered with?! Let all that read make Peace permanently with YAHWEH the CREATOR through JESUS His Son now. The End Time is no more near,the End Time is here! |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Papichulostunne(m): 11:17am On Jun 28, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker:Go to index |
| Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:34am On Jun 28, 2021 |
Papichulostunne:Oh, nice. To think I use index to find books and I did not remember that the Bible had one too. Anyway, I just checked and no "Sin is..." in mine, but thanks all the same. |
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