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Emeraldfynest:
You are absolutely wrong, probably you are looking at it from the local perspective. Look at Agric from the tech perspective, with new innovations in hydroponics, tissue culture and organic farming, agric is still a lucrative course to study. People eat everyday, so if you can provide or build a system that solves this, you will be smiling to the bank.

Agriculture has gone beyond how and cut lasses, look up samsonprolific on IG and you will change your mind.

Lolz, what is the percentage of such person to the number of those that studied Agric? Not even up to 0.5%, stop misleading people, the guy is absolutely correct. Also samsonprolific has money for data that's why he's on instagram, and I'm sure he has money for startup. Op is talking about poor people that want to leave poverty. Fear God and stop misleading all these teens

caesymore:
Mr. Op you have no clue...

your post is misleading

Yes oooo very very misleading.

lol you are really ill inform and guess you are very young too. waitin you nor no ask people make them show how e de go. i know couple of young people that is earning 1500usd tax free working remotely from Nigeria for ICT firm overseas. alot good udemy courses on programming de and you no go spend 120usd to learn the basics and after that go find good boatcamp to enrol yourself but people like you go rather use money buy iphone. but i no go continue the conversation.

Malcolm123:
And who go teach you the programming to perfection....which club or society u go join to meet lyk minds abi you think programing na web design dat one person can design for his room and come out with sth meaningful

Oga CSC is the most useless course because how many places can you do IT in programming for dis naija (abi how many software naija don develop apart from using already done software maybe in networking/web design or marketing which an electrical/electeonics will beat csc hand down easily in such field

eminemkayc:
As a professional practicing engineer with close to two decades of practical engineering experience in the design of deep water structures, floating production systems, large and small displacement piles, Finite element design of foundations, design of numerous medium to high rise structures, culverts, bridges, etcetera, I can confidently inform whoever created this topic of partly misinforming the public in relation to the inexplicable comparison of Civil engineering, as a professional course, to physics. Firstly, Civil engineering, is the mother of all major engineering courses (Mechanical, Chemical, etc) and is subdivided into the following specialties;
1. Transportation engineering
2. Structural engineering
3. Water resources and environmental engineering
4. Civil engineering materials
5. Geotechnical engineering

Each of these sub-divisions have extensive applications in various industries and a thoroughbred Civil engineer who, for e.g, is grounded in structural engineering designs can, with time, easily work for himself, as a consultant in the comfort of his home, just by having core understanding of the theory of structures , reinforced concrete designs(Euro, BS codes), foundation designs (deep, shallow foundations), design of steel structures (such as telecommunication towers, shelters, crude/hydrocarbon storage tanks, gantry cranes, etc. A graduate civil engineer who is vast with the use of one, more, or a combination of tools such as SACS , ETAB, STAADpro, AUTOCAD, CIVIL 3D,etcetera can easily be employed in the oil industry, infrastructure industry, geotech companies, construction companies that handle EPCI projects, Govt parastatals (ministry of works, material testing parastatals, etc), or even just work for himself by attaching to a professional architect who gets building projects and handles, in the first instance, structural details of building projects, while learning the structural designs proper. The opportunities is boundless. But this depends on the competence of the civil engineer. A sound, diligent and hardworking Civil engineer can NEVER go hungry.
Secondly, a physicist can never perform the functions of a civil engineer as he is neither trained nor understands concepts such as Terzaghi's theory of foundation soil bearing capacities, Hansen's or Vesic's modification to Terzaghi's theories for inclined or eccentrically loaded foundations, etc. He has no understanding on the design of portal frame structures, design of bolted or welded connections, or design of retaining walls, slope stabilization structures, road designs, design of offshore fixed jacket platforms, lifting analysis, transportations analysis with wave and current kinematics, etc. He has or was never introduced to the BS codes (in school or elsewhere) the Eurocodes 1, 2, 3, etc. So he can't just practice. There are no rigid linkage between the two. He would also never get a COREN certification. Engineering is applied mathematics and applied science and mathematics/physics is the bedrock of engineering. Mathematics, in itself, is subdivided into Fluid mechanics, topology, abstract algebra, calculus and complex theory. When you plot bending moment diagram of a simply supported beam, for e.g, the equations defining the distribution of the moments on the beam are basically mathematics (polynomials or linear functions) in terms of the Moments or shear forces, etc. But a mathematician or a physicist who is not trained in Civil engineering would never understand these. He would understand the polynomial equations, but doesnt understand what bending moment diagram mean.
I have largely described avenues and opportunities that abound in structural engineering as an area of specialization. Similar opportunities abound in highway engineering (design/construction of roads, hydraulic structures, etc), geotechnical engineering (sub-surface investigation, geophysical investigation,etc), etc. Civil, is one of the most practical engineering professions in this country.
Nigeria is a developing nation and a competent, vast and hardworking civil engineer would be glad he studied the course at the completion of his study!

Civil engineering is still below mechanical engineering in the pecking order... All your FEA is copied from Mech.. Mechanics...

cliper230:
lol you are really ill inform and guess you are very young too. waitin you nor no ask people make them show how e de go. i know couple of young people that is earning 1500usd tax free working remotely from Nigeria for ICT firm overseas. alot good udemy courses on programming de and you no go spend 120usd to learn the basics and after that go find good boatcamp to enrol yourself but people like you go rather use money buy iphone. but i no go continue the conversation.

No need to continue ....am a practicing engr. And i have friend in the ict world...me my self am not a stranger in IOT .....still i will tell you ...there is more opportunity as dar as nigeria is concern in engineering than computer system with qauke learning and practicing platform

1500$ how many of dat has been available to average nigerias....
Nigeria is not a major destination for business outsourcing

Just advisig someone to go and be playing football because mikel obi is earning 150k£ per week....d person career go finish b4 ut start

Id you ar so current tell me the programming language u go learn cheap c++ C java python php

Nozino:
Please let’s be factual here. Did you study Mechanical Engineering because I did. And my option was Manufacturing/Production Engineering. Mech is useless now coupled with over supply of Mechanical Engineering graduate.

Oga... I'm a mechanical engineer... There are lots of areas to delve to even with your Manufacturing/Production...

HVAC
Automobile
Electromech
Mechatronics
Plumbing
Structures
Design
Real estate.

For your info, I have worked in the industry just two years... I run an education service, real estate and little refrigeration/AC side huzzles.

I have Msc Mech Engr and I have been 11 years outta B.Engr.

So I know what I say

You're right, but I'm not misleading anyone. Just trying to say agriculture is still a relevant field.

ModestGal:
Lolz, what is the percentage of such person to the number of those that studied Agric? Not even up to 0.5%, stop misleading people, the guy is absolutely correct. Also samsonprolific has money for data that's why he's on instagram, and I'm sure he has money for startup. Op is talking about poor people that want to leave poverty. Fear God and stop misleading all these teens

Laideabdulahi:
Oga stop this kind of advice.
Recently mass comm has stated getting jobs or roles like communication specialist
Communication manager
Comm/media manager, etc.

Calm down before You throw advice

That is what they keep telling them. Say if you choose Print, you will work in apcon, newspaper houses etc when you graduate. Oya graduate na, 80% of them are in business and hotel works in Abuja .
Which newspaper house? The one that online medias and blogs are taking over? Story.

How Microbiology did not make this list I don't understand.

chibjohn:
Or maybe the grade you graduated with. I am in touch with most of my classmates. While they are not all practicing, most are.
I will not disclose my salary but I earn a decent amount according to Nigerian standard.
My kids can study whatever they want.
My younger bro is studying EEE which is his choice.

May of us get unnecessarily defensive when issues as this are discussed. I studied engineering and doing well by the Nigerian standard too but we can't deny that some of these engineering courses don't provide as much opportunities as it used to be including EEE. you'll be lying to say most of your coursemates are practicing but even if they are, it's not that way everywhere else. Many engineering grads now go into IT, sales and even marketing to make ends meet. By default, some don't even enjoy the course.

At the end, I believe one should study and good course and bank on God's grace. I'm where I am today not only because I studied a good course but because God just chose to be generous to me. Others are not so lucky.

Work hard on your grades. Also, if you aren't already, learn other skills, preferably, tech skills. Adding tech skills to what you studied will put you in a different category of graduates and you will be glad you did. It's not easy though.

Emeraldfynest:
Pls experienced people on this thread, I am currently in my 3rd year with a weak 2.2, I keep working hard to make a 2.1 before I graduate, but can a 2.2 graduate do Masters, thanks. I intend to do my M. Sc after graduation.

Malcolm123:
No need to continue ....am a practicing engr. And i have friend in the ict world...me my self am not a stranger in IOT .....still i will tell you ...there is more opportunity as dar as nigeria is concern in engineering than computer system with qauke learning and practicing platform

1500$ how many of dat has been available to average nigerias....
Nigeria is not a major destination for business outsourcing

Just advisig someone to go and be playing football because mikel obi is earning 150k£ per week....d person career go finish b4 ut start

Id you ar so current tell me the programming language u go learn cheap c++ C java python php

If there is any field showing the most promise in Nigeria, it has to be the Software Engineering field which you call programming.
In the next decade more and more jobs will arise in the field as people are founding startups up and down and need software engineers.
The problem now is why other fields aren’t showing as much promise, e.g physics and mechanical engineering except you japa.
Most software engineers are mech eng, EEE, physics graduates because there’s no immediate incentive to graduate with those courses except you are sponsored abroad.
Nigeria is living on the edge. Industries aren’t growing hence why no graduate gets jobs easily

Yes, I'm already learning SEO Content writing and intend to learn Whiteboard Animation too, just that I don't have a laptop. It's not easy as you said.

gheekhone:
Work hard on your grades. Also, if you aren't already, learn other skills, preferably, tech skills. Adding tech skills to what you studied will put you in a different category of graduates and you will be glad you did. It's not easy though.

What about microbiology



I sell and I buy any breed of dog swiftly at a very reasonable price. I also offer boarding and pet care services. Make una patronize my small business pls

But this is true for other courses and in other places (countries). People don't always end up practicing what they studied. Yea, it is worse here because there are no jobs. I think it's better for people to study what they like but add other skills thereby, giving themselves better chances of success. Nigeria is crying out for auto mechanics who understand engineering even if it means supervising less skilled workers and overseeing their work. There are so many areas of the economy where a little optimization would lead to very good cost savings. We need more people who know what they are doing, not quacks. Snowden no complete any degree.

Passage:
May of us get unnecessarily defensive when issues as this are discussed. I studied engineering and doing well by the Nigerian standard too but we can't deny that some of these engineering courses don't provide as much opportunities as it used to be including EEE. you'll be lying to say most of your coursemates are practicing but even if they are, it's not that way everywhere else. Many engineering grads now go into IT, sales and even marketing to make ends meet. By default, some don't even enjoy the course.

At the end, I believe one should study and good course and bank on God's grace. I'm where I am today not only because I studied a good course but because God just chose to be generous to me. Others are not so lucky.

ModestGal:
People like you are the reason Nigeria is backward, because you are a blunt lier. 99.9% of people who study that in my set have no job today.

Hey woman! I got no reason to lie so don’t call me a liar.
You mean a whooping 99.9% of people that studied mech Engr in your set has no job? If that’s true, then there is something definitely wrong somewhere. It’s either your school is so corrupt that they cheated their way out and so cannot fit into the real world or they all graduated with poor results. One thing most engineering courses teach students are analytical and maths skills that helps them in excelling in job tests. I know a lot of people that studied Engr but are doing fine in the big four auditing firms, banks and other areas.

This is great. Keep it up. Whatever it'll take you to get a laptop, as long as it's not illegal, please do. I know how e dey b sha sometimes.

Emeraldfynest:
Yes, I'm already learning SEO Content writing and intend to learn Whiteboard Animation too, just that I don't have a laptop. It's not easy as you said.

Gbam!!! Most entry level jobs, the few that are available, are skewed towards STEM grads cos of the aptitude tests.

chibjohn:
Hey woman! I got no reason to lie so don’t call me a liar.
You mean a whooping 99.9% of people that studied mech Engr in your set has no job? If that’s true, then there is something definitely wrong somewhere. It’s either your school is so corrupt that they cheated their way out and so cannot fit into the real world or they all graduated with poor results. One thing most engineering courses teach students are analytical and maths skills that helps them in excelling in job tests. I know a lot of people that studied Engr but are doing fine in the big four auditing firms, banks and other areas.

Yeah sure. I actually started with Content Writing on Upwork, but I realized to be more efficient, I need to help clients bring their content on Google's front page, so I delved into SEO. It's fucking tough, I end up using all my saved money to sponsor myself in school, and I still have to buy SEO tools monthly. The future is bright though, I believe.

gheekhone:
This is great. Keep it up. Whatever it'll take you to get a laptop, as long as it's not illegal, please do. I know how e dey b sha sometimes.

ClintonNzedimma:
If there is any field showing the most promise in Nigeria, it has to be the Software Engineering field which you call programming.
In the next decade more and more jobs will arise in the field as people are founding startups up and down and need software engineers.
The problem now is why other fields aren’t showing as much promise, e.g physics and mechanical engineering except you japa.
Most software engineers are mech eng, EEE, physics graduates because there’s no immediate incentive to graduate with those courses except you are sponsored abroad.
Nigeria is living on the edge. Industries aren’t growing hence why no graduate gets jobs easily

Job scareness cut across all profession in nigeria (buh now we ar saying which one profession is still coping with d situation )
Believ me civil engineering ahead of eveey oda professions maybe apart health line or teaching (thanks to low paying private schools)

Our level of automation in africa is still very low and we rely so much on paper work apart from the financial industry no oda major sector can really boost of IT integration ......and it is strategically unwise to be studying a course becos there is a market for it globally (our educational system is not dat valued

Indian, russians,hungarians,isreali programmers ar highly sort after not africa dat you will need to start training dem all over again

Dat is why no major tech companies have their research office in africa e.g microsoft,Intel,ibm etc

Sheriman:
You beta go find work do this online begging can't pay you

Oga I really need help now.U nor know wetin happen to me.

Malcolm123:
Job scareness cut across all profession in nigeria (buh now we ar saying which one profession is still coping with d situation )
Believ me civil engineering ahead of eveey oda professions maybe apart health line or teaching (thanks to low paying private schools)

Our level of automation in africa is still very low and we rely so much on paper work apart from the financial industry no oda major sector can really boost of IT integration ......and it is strategically unwise to be studying a course becos there is a market for it globally (our educational system is not dat valued

Indian, russians,hungarians,isreali programmers ar highly sort after not africa dat you will need to start training dem all over again

Dat is why no major tech companies have their research office in africa e.g microsoft,Intel,ibm etc

Microsoft has office in Lagos. Google has office in Lagos. Facebook has office in Lagos.

Jokerman:
Civil engineering is still below mechanical engineering in the pecking order... All your FEA is copied from Mech.. Mechanics...

Not at all young man. Finite element methods is largely a mathematical technique used in obtaining approximate solutions in boundary-based value problems in engineering. It's a mathematical method that discretizes the entity, be it fluid flow, heat flux, flexible footings on spring foundations, thin plates and shells on pressure vessels etc for the sole purpose of obtaining and assembling the governing equations into stiffeness matrices with identifiable boundary conditions. It wasn't copied from Mechanical engineering as you claimed. As mechanical engineering is a sub-set of civil engineering. Mechanical engineering deals with determinate structures/bodies, kinematics and kinetics of rigid bodies, structural dynamics, fluid mechanics (single and multiphase, compressible and incompressible flows), etc All of these are covered in civil engineering as courses in structural engineering, strength of materials, fluid mechanics, theories of deflection, slope, explicit stresses in shells, plates, etc are all taught to civil engineers and are the basis of software such as PLAXIS, ANSYS, STAADpro, ABAQUS, etc Please be aware that I practice both civil, mechanical (statics/ non-rotating), piping and pipeline engineering all at once.

gheekhone:
But this is true for other courses and in other places (countries). People don't always end up practicing what they studied. Yea, it is worse here because there are no jobs. I think it's better for people to study what they like but add other skills thereby, giving themselves better chances of success. Nigeria is crying out for auto mechanics who understand engineering even if it means supervising less skilled workers and overseeing their work. There are so many areas of the economy where a little optimization would lead to very good cost savings. We need more people who know what they are doing, not quacks. Snowden no complete any degree.

I agree with you. That was why I stated clearly that he's lying about most of his coursemates practicing the course they studied.

tensazangetsu20:
Microsoft has office in Lagos. Google has office in Lagos. Facebook has office in Lagos.

Research office not just normal business outlet ....and mostly dey encourage Nigerians by conducting all sort of competitions

How many startup in nigeria have dey acquire ....or develop in nigeria

Twitter mayhave branch in nigeria it is easy buh wat exactly ar dey doing there is wat matas
Costumer service?? Developing next generation app features, algorithm??
Or a data storage centre??

I see u mentioned psychology, how come

Gerrard59:
OP is very correct especially if you look at it from the aspect of fleeing the country after your graduation (which I advise young and ambitious Nigerian youths to do). Except you are very intelligent, young (max 19 years prior to enrolment) and can take advantage of scholarships, you do not have to study certain courses. Nigeria is getting poorer by the day and will become more poor in the next decade and two. As an instance, economic growth of 2010 is what the country is "enjoying" meanwhile, the population has ballooned, resources are more scarce, the major foreign earner now has more sellers and less buyers. Nigeria is not what it was when OP and I were teens, so it is pointless to study certain courses esp if you are from a poor family.

One thing is: do not study five year programs because there would be more strike actions (internal crises too: See Unical and her Engineering and Pharmacy students) than ever before as the country becomes poorer and nears insolvency. So, why spend so much time studying Civil/Mech Engineering when there is Physics? Why do Marine Engineering when you can opt for Mathematics? Some of these courses have restrictions for foreigners when you have japa'd and you will spend a lot trying to regularise. Meanwhile, your school mate who did Math has gotten a job with a tech firm but you are trying to get into the maritime industry in the US. Regarding Law, Nigeria is the last place to study same as the country is lawless. Again, unless you are very intelligent and opt for a federal university, you are better off doing Psychology or English or Chinese Mandarin.

Remember, you are trying to escape poverty not perpetuate it.



As bad as Nigeria is, it will be better than the Nigeria of 2031. Things will get far worse than today. Ten years ago, people could travel across the country with relative ease, today? They dare not. In ten years time, it will be difficult to move around your city easily.

Jokerman:
Oga... I'm a mechanical engineer... There are lots of areas to delve to even with your Manufacturing/Production...

HVAC
Automobile
Electromech
Mechatronics
Plumbing
Structures
Design
Real estate

For your info, I have worked in the industry just two years... I run an education service, real estate and little refrigeration/AC side huzzles.

I have Msc Mech Engr and I have been 11 years outta B.Engr.

So I know what I say

How?? Is it with the Theory HVAC courses we took? Or the AC$Ref courses? Or Automotive technology courses? Or steam engines? Or ICOs?


How would having a degree in Mechanical Engineering in Nigeria help someone break into the electromechanical,plumbing,structural,design or real estate fields in Nigeria?

This is the sowing in tears phase. You'll surely reap in joy.

Emeraldfynest:
Yeah sure. I actually started with Content Writing on Upwork, but I realized to be more efficient, I need to help clients bring their content on Google's front page, so I delved into SEO. It's fucking tough, I end up using all my saved money to sponsor myself in school, and I still have to buy SEO tools monthly. The future is bright though, I believe.

chibjohn:
You are high on cheap drugs for making this statement. How dare you compare physics with mechanical and civil engineering? How many job adverts do you see with requirements of a physics degree?

with physics, u can travel abroad and be relevant over there, then from there further in any course which interest you, somebody gave an example of after studying physics, then advance degree in economics, engineering will be waiting for you too.

ModestGal:
People like you are the reason Nigeria is backward, because you are a blunt lier. 99.9% of people who study that in my set have no job today.

God bless you. Let him keep deceiving ignorant teens.

Yea, just chipping in my 2cents jare.

Passage:
I agree with you. That was why I stated clearly that he's lying about most of his coursemates practicing the course they studied.

tensazangetsu20:
A lot of Nigerian students especially those from high school still hold some archaic mentality that some courses are a sure way out of poverty. The situation of Nigeria and the future should make people dead that mentality o. If you arent from a rich family or well connected you should avoid studying some courses in Nigeria.

The following should be avoided except you are rich or well connected.

Medicine: This used to be a very sure way out of poverty. Just like 14 years back, even NYSC doctors were getting six figures. It was so good that even after NYSC and Housemanship, some doctors had bought nice cars or even built houses. The situation is totally different today. To get housemanship as a doctor na die and even when you get it you will be paid peanuts. To migrate out of the country as a doctor requires serious money which if you arent from a privileged home might be very difficult to meet. To also further as a doctor in Nigeria is very difficult as a lot of residency programs are based on who you know. Its no more about merit just as it used to be before yet every year thousands of teenagers kill themselves trying to get into medicine when they can get into other programs which are much more lucrative.

All Engineering Courses except Electrical/Computer engineering: Contrary to what a lot of people think, engineering a lot of branches of engineering are not as lucrative as people think they are. I was checking unilag's cut off the other day for my cousins and was shocked to find out that petroleum engineering has the highest cut-off point in the engineering department. That is a program that should be scrapped. Its glory days are over and never going to come back and its so restrictive yet a whole lot of brilliant people think killing themselves to study this is actually a good idea. Electrical and computer engineering are the only courses I can really advise anyone to go for as they are very much relevant in the ICT sector. Embedded systems, computer hardware, robotics alongside a host of others are mostly offshoots of these fields.
Lucrative alternatives to engineering that arent as competitive are computer science, mathematics and physics. Someone intending to study civil engineering or mechanical engineering in Nigeria should go for physics. There's practically no place a mechanical or civil engineer can work in this world that someone with a degree in physics cant work.

Law: I wont say much here but if you love poverty, this is an amazing course to study. If you are from arts class, instead of law go for a degree in English. At least with a TEFL certificate and an English degree you can get good jobs teaching English in asia and latin america.

Another thing that might help is that before you study a course, go on linkedin. Create a profile, go to linkedin jobs and check specifically how many jobs exist for your course in Nigeria, Africa and globally.

Nigeria isnt funny anymore to waste time on nonsense and funny as it is, Nigeria of today is a paradise compared to the Nigeria coming so folks should help themselves.

You are so wrong on Law.