Workch:
You typed a lot and I still can’t see how this answers my question

U can see the difference between man and rat already just as dtruthspeaker pointed out ...

u are only claiming the cellular similarity between man and rats must mean it can only be evolution...
... I’m only telling you an existence of similarity at cellular level doesn’t still disprove creation...

advanceDNA:


U can see the difference between man and rat already just as dtruthspeaker pointed out ...

u are only claiming the cellular similarity between man and rats must mean it can only be evolution...
... I’m only telling you an existence of similarity at cellular level doesn’t still disprove creation...

i can’t see the difference between rat and man at the unit level.

Same way I can’t see the difference between diamond and coal at the unit level because they both come from same source but look differently.

At the unit level, man and rats seem to be almost the same. Microscopes reveals that

Workch:
i can’t see the difference between rat and man at the unit level.

Same way I can’t see the difference between diamond and coal at the unit level because they both come from same source but look differently.

At the unit level, man and rats seem to be the same. Microscopes reveals that

They only share similarities ..they are not the same...

advanceDNA:


They only share similarities ..they are not the same...

i don’t know if you understand molecular biology or biochemistry. The picture below is the sequence of amino acids in the UTF1 proteins of humans, mouse and rats.
Looking at this similarities amino acid in sequences, it’s difficult to convince a modeled scientist that they are not from the same source with variations at some point. It doesn’t make sense to say this protein was created differently


If you don’t understand the picture, kindly browse about peptides and amino acid sequence to see how it works. T

advanceDNA:


They only share similarities ..they are not the same...

so why are they similar?

Please don’t tell me that “god did it that way”. That will be a very lazy answer when someone is ignorant of how stuffs work.

Workch:
i don’t know if you understand molecular biology or biochemistry. The picture below is the sequence of amino acids in the UTF1 proteins of humans, mouse and rats.
Looking at this similarities amino acid in sequences, it’s difficult to convince a modeled scientist that they are not from the same source with variations at some point. It doesn’t make sense to say this protein was created differently


If you don’t understand the picture, kindly browse about peptides and amino acid sequence to see how it works. T

Dude....every organism in the world is composed of cells.. even plants share similar Base pairs with man....similarities doesn’t mean they are the same....

u have a degree in biochemistry or molecular biology, so you should know an ordinary 0.1% difference at genetic level actually represents millions of different locations within the genome where variation can occur, which can equate to a breathtaking large number of unique DNA sequences...... again.. rats and man aren’t the same...

advanceDNA:




Dude....every organism in the world is composed of cells.. even plants share similar Base pairs with man....similarities doesn’t mean they are the same....

u have a degree in biochemistry or molecular biology, so you should know an ordinary 0.1% difference at genetic level actually represents millions of different locations within the genome where variation can occur, which can equate to a breathtaking large number of unique DNA sequences...... again.. rats and man aren’t the same...

In biochemistry, all living things are technically the same at the molecular level.

So tell me why we share more than 80% DNA with rats. I am curious to know your explanation to this

Workch:
In biochemistry, all living things are technically the same at the molecular level.

So tell me why we share more than 80% DNA with rats. I am curious to know your explanation to this

Look dude.... diversity exist in the world...why is this a great mystery to you??

With all the 80% similarity you keep dwelling on..tell me why rats can’t make planes and mobile phones??

Oh it’s evolution right.... other creatures ddnt evolve... only man just became brilliant out of all the millions of species

advanceDNA:



Look dude.... diversity exist in the world...why is this a great mystery to you??

With all the 80% similarity you keep dwelling on..tell me why rats can’t make planes and mobile phones??

Oh it’s evolution right.... other creatures ddnt evolve... only man just became brilliant out of all the millions of species

just tell me why they have 80% similarities and forget the phone making thing.
That’s a distraction that doesn’t hold water, which is a product of lack of proper science education

Workch:
just tell me why they have 80% similarities and forget the phone making thing.
That’s a distraction that doesn’t hold water, which is a product of lack of proper science education

Distracting you?? For what?? Yo!! Don’t be condescending man...

You are the one equating man and rats becos of cellular content .....Haven’t we earlier established that all organism have cells and Base pairs...??

Organism are similar at cellular level because they all have cells..is this hard to comprehend.
their basic constituent are cells.....whether one come with 30% similarity to 80%

Even chimpanzees that’s have 98.6% DNA still looks and think significantly differently from man..

Animals and humans were created from the “dust of the earth”(Genesis 2:7, 19) but only humans are capable of using their brains to enhance and upgrade their way of living, in other words, to “subdue the earth”(Genesis 1:28) since they were made in God’s image. Genesis 1:26
Life on earth is basically carbon-based. The bodies of animals and humans contain a considerable amount of elements—like carbon, iron, oxygen amongst others. Interestingly, these elements are also present in the ground, or as the Bible puts it, the “dust of the earth” so it supports the fact that humans were actually made from dust. Genesis 2:7

God created man in his own image not in flesh
But in our ability to reason and be self conscious

Humans have the power to think... you are conscious that’s why you ask all this questions

advanceDNA:


Distracting you?? For what?? Yo!! Don’t be condescending man...

You are the one equating man and rats becos of cellular content .....Haven’t we earlier established that all organism have cells and Base pairs...??

Organism are similar at cellular level because they all have cells..is this hard to comprehend.
their basic constituent are cells.....whether one come with 30% similarity to 80%

Even chimpanzees that’s have 98.6% DNA still looks and think significantly differently from man..

why did you god give you the same kind of cells he gave animals if you were created in his image?

Why did your god create you so genetically similar to chimpanzees?

Workch:
why did you god give you the same kind of cells he gave animals if you were created in his image?

Why did your god create you so genetically similar to chimpanzees?

The “why” is the biggest question in the universe...

Even science...it can only explain the “how”.... Mr workch...no one knows the the real “why” for everything in the universe...

Why we are born
Why we die
Why we better

I do not have the answers you seek ..and if it’s mockery you are driving towards ...Godspeed..

You see your problem? And the same people who claim to be pro-science. You ignored the things you could see with your naked eyes to search for invisible things.


You ignored the physical differences between humans and animals, decided that your microscope is a proper analysis tool.


When you tell me how rats can do MouthAction, or can stand up right wear a tuxedo and build a skyscraper. Or better yet tell me which school your rat went and how many languages it can sing. Or maybe it has produced a record label and even built an helicopter.


Did your analysis of your rat also compare to the human brain. It seems you want to compare your IQ with that of a rat.

Workch:
The only way I can accept that humans and other animals didn’t evolve from a common ancestors is when I cut the flesh of other animals and that of human, analyze their cells in the flesh and blood under a microscope and they cells don’t look exactly the same.

So far, I have done this severally by viewing the blood cells of a rat and that of humans under the microscope and they always appear the same.
So why are they looking the same if humans were created specially in the image of a god?

If you can show me that they are not the same under a microscope, I will accept creation

advanceDNA:


The “why” is the biggest question in the universe...

Even science...it can only explain the “how”.... Mr workch...no one knows the the real “why” for everything in the universe...

Why we are born
Why we die
Why we better

I do not have the answers you seek ..and if it’s mockery you are driving towards ...Godspeed..

These are not the topic on this thread.

Why do we share 80% of our DNA with rats?

Workch:
These are not the topic on this thread.

Why do we share 80% of our DNA with rats?

How are u a scientist ...
U are rigid...
In a dialogue..you don’t want any other line of thought unless it’s yours...u seem to want a specific way of conversing...enjoy yourself and rat DNA...

advanceDNA:


How are u a scientist ...
U are rigid...
In a dialogue..you don’t want any other line of thought unless it’s yours...u seem to want a specific way of conversing...enjoy yourself and rat DNA...

I am not rigid, I just want us to focus on the topic. You are deliberately wanting to drag me from pillar to post. The problem with religious people is that they never want to say “I don’t know”. There’s no harm in not knowing stuffs because it’s imposs to know everything. Accept it when you don’t know so you can learn

Just tell me why we share 80% of our DNA with rats.

Workch:
I am not rigid, I just want us to focus on the topic. You are deliberately wanting to drag me from pillar to post.

Just tell me why we share 80% of our DNA with rats.

I never dragged you anywhere ...I have answered your question....if you are looking for a specific kind of answer.. I cannot help you..

You went further to ask why God made it so.
I said the “why” question is a mystery and gave further examples of many “whys” ...Only for u to come and say it’s not part of this thread... when you were asking why the maker made it that way...u ddnt remember it’s not part of this thread..

advanceDNA:


I never dragged you anywhere ...I have answered your question....if you are looking for a specific kind of answer.. I cannot help you..

You went further to ask why God made it so.
I said the “why” question is a mystery and gave further examples of many “whys” ...Only for u to come and say it’s not part of this thread... when you were asking why the maker made it that way...u ddnt remember it’s not part of this thread..

do you know why we share 80% of DNA with rats or not?
Please don’t bring God into the discussion, you can’t know things if you always fill the gaps with god

Workch:
The only way I can accept that humans and other animals didn’t evolve from a common ancestors is when I cut the flesh of other animals and that of human, analyze their cells in the flesh and blood under a microscope and they cells don’t look exactly the same.

So far, I have done this severally by viewing the blood cells of a rat and that of humans under the microscope and they always appear the same.
So why are they looking the same if humans were created specially in the image of a god?

If you can show me that they are not the same under a microscope, I will accept creation

God is a Spirit.

If man was created in the image of God it is NOT a physical but spiritual likeness!

Let me ask you a question:
Is it possible given trillions of decades that a computer and it's softwares evolve?
(To make this challenge easier for you, let's assume all individual electronic components are available in their finished states i.e. transistors, diodes, capacitors, inductors, op amps etc are available)


BTW:
Your question sounds like since Toyota was made by men. How come motorcycles, lorries, articulated vehicles, armoured tanks share the same basic systems)

shadeyinka:

God is a Spirit.

If man was created in the image of God it is NOT a physical but spiritual likeness!
)

F—g is a T’Tupin.

If man was created in the Image of F—g it is NOT a physical but T’Tupin likeness!!’

The DNA is evidence that F—g created the world and primeval organism with his T’Tupin as the model. The variation and diversity we see on earth are Manifestations of F—g.

Workch:
The only way I can accept that humans and other animals didn’t evolve from a common ancestors is when I cut the flesh of other animals and that of human, analyze their cells in the flesh and blood under a microscope and they cells don’t look exactly the same.

So far, I have done this severally by viewing the blood cells of a rat and that of humans under the microscope and they always appear the same.
So why are they looking the same if humans were created specially in the image of a god?

If you can show me that they are not the same under a microscope, I will accept creation

One of what makes humans special creation is the fact that they have souls and spirits that continues to live after the death of the body.
Humans are also made in the image and likeness of God with abilities far beyond that of animals.
If man animals evolves, we could have seen animals changing form gradually with physical evidences.

terrezo2002:

One of what makes humans special creation is the fact that they have souls and spirits that continues to live after the death of the body.
Humans are also made in the image and likeness of God with abilities far beyond that of animals.
If man animals evolves, we could have seen animals changing form gradually with physical evidences.

what evidence do you have to substantiate the existence of souls and spirits?

shadeyinka:

God is a Spirit.

If man was created in the image of God it is NOT a physical but spiritual likeness!

Let me ask you a question:
Is it possible given trillions of decades that a computer and it's softwares evolve?
(To make this challenge easier for you, let's assume all individual electronic components are available in their finished states i.e. transistors, diodes, capacitors, inductors, op amps etc are available)


BTW:
Your question sounds like since Toyota was made by men. How come motorcycles, lorries, articulated vehicles, armoured tanks share the same basic systems)

there is no evidence for spirits and god. Only speak of what you have evidence for

Workch:
what evidence do you have to substantiate the existence of souls and spirits?

1. When you dream, your soul is what is active.
2. Also go to hospitals and hear stories of afterlife. Especially those who recovered from comma, near death experiences.
3. Ask those who have had out of the body experiences.

Workch:
It means that you are not a special being and not created in any bodies image. You just like a mast of animal cells bro.

Damn, it’s hilarious that you can’t differentiate your cells from that of a rat, you both share common ancestry. What kind of God creates his people with similar compositions of dogs and rats.

Lolss....that assumption is irrelevant to the existence of nature ..and accepting it as truth won't hurt you...it's actually not difficult to do.

The pedestal or interest of Science is not to unravel or question the supernatural backing of nature but rather to explore, redevelop and simulate the fact in solving nature's problems.

Hahjascho:
Lolss....that assumption is irrelevant to the existence of nature ..and accepting it as truth won't hurt you...it's actually not difficult to do.

The pedestal or interest of Science is not to unravel or question the supernatural backing of nature but rather to explore, redevelop and simulate the fact in solving nature's problems.

No one will ask questions of supernatural is science because it doesn’t exist and no evidence for it.

Science follow evidence to where it leads and if supernatural had any, we would have followed it.

terrezo2002:

1. When you dream, your soul is what is active.
2. Also go to hospitals and hear stories of afterlife. Especially those who recovered from comma, near death experiences.
3. Ask those who have had out of the body experiences.

Do you know the definition of evidence?

Workch:
i can’t see the difference between rat and man at the unit level.

Same way I can’t see the difference between diamond and coal at the unit level because they both come from same source but look differently.

At the unit level, man and rats seem to be almost the same. Microscopes reveals that

And here, your Creator has already told you that the raw materials He utilised in manufacturing you were taken from the earth the same place where rat comes from, hence the similarity.

And let me increase your burden, a Car too has "blood", fluids, respiratory system, digestive system, a heart and a brain as you, so it is the same as you as per unit level.!

Workch:
But the cells are the same, you are actually a distant cousin to a rat.
If not, why are the cells looking same?

You were created the in the image of a rat?
It’s so sad that humans and rats have same kind of cells.

As I said up there, some parts of our raw materials come from the earth.

Workch:

Did your God deliberately make it that way?

That is What it means to be a Creator. He has Absolute Unquestionable Right to create using any material at His disposal exactly as Mr Toyoda chose to make his Toyotas a mixture of wood and iron and plastic.

Dtruthspeaker:


And here, your Creator has already told you that the raw materials He utilised in manufacturing you were taken from the earth the same place where rat comes from, hence the similarity.

And let me increase your burden, a Car too has "blood", fluids, respiratory system, digestive system, a heart and a brain as you, so it is the same as you as per unit level.!

theres no evidence for a creator.
There’s evidence that humans and rats are 80% the same.