afrodoc2:




Try these 2

1) Fred has been poor at DM because he is not a DM and can never be a DM
2) How come Fred is playing well at DM for Brazil

Choose one struggle. You can't with the right side of your mouth tell us that the reason for those problems of his that even you conceded he has is because he is not a DM and can never be a DM AND then with the left side of your mouth imply that he has been great at DM for Brazil.

You said Fred has been poor at DM, I didn't say so. You said Fred is playing well at DM, I didn't say so. All I said was I want to know too. And so far, your explanation has been top notch

afrodoc2:

With Man Utd Fred plays the deeper role as the 6 while McTominay his partner plays the more advanced box to box role as the 8.

With Brazil Casemiro plays the deeper role as the 6 while Fred plays the more advanced box to box role as the 8.

Fred's position/role in both teams is different so bringing up his Brazil performances to try and defend his United ones is just ridiculous.

Actually his performance for Brazil only bolsters the opinion that we need a proper CDM while Fred can go and compete for CM with Pogba and VDB.

Solid explanation. Crap Fred too dey cause wahala

eph12:

You said Fred has been poor at DM, I didn't say so. You said Fred is playing well at DM, I didn't say so. All I said was I want to know too. And so far, you're explanation has been top notch

LOL

Where did i say Fred was playing well at DM?

KingAlabi come see your brother? He has brought another factory-fitted excuse.

For those of you who don't know football. There is a difference between DM and CM.

eph12:

Solid explanation. Crap Fred too dey cause wahala

So you now know the difference between DM and CM.
Good.

Thank me later.

Afrodoc2 and eph12

eph12:

That's why we want Mourinho back. We must prioritize defense

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handelex:
Mohamed Bouhafsi (Hadrien Grenier): Paul Pogba is more and more willing to join PSG. There is contact between PSG and the player, but not yet concrete with #mufc. The fee will be less than €80m. But there is a dilemma if he should be signed now or for free in a year.

Tier 1.

By the time Pogba leaves, either for free or not, e go clear for our eyes.

Karleb:

By the time Pogba leaves, either for free or not, e go clear for our eyes.

E no go clear anything

afrodoc2:



LOL

Where did i say Fred was playing well at DM?

KingAlabi come see your brother? He has brought another factory-fitted excuse.

For those of you who don't know football. There is a difference between DM and CM.

Oh okay you mean he's playing well at CM?

elrony:
Afrodoc2 and eph12

See me see wahala o

Karleb:

By the time Pogba leaves, either for free or not, e go clear for our eyes.

E shock me say fans dey talk of keeping him because we're now assembling better players that will make him thrive..He's a great talent but it'd be bad watching him leave for free again.That'd be over £120m(transfer fee and wages) on an investment gone just like that..

With Raiola as an agent and PSG by the corner, I'd start believing in miracles if Pogba renews..The money he'd make if he leaves for free can turn anyone's head..

At the end of the day, he holds all the cards now..Don't know why the club left it so late..They either shatter the wage structure again for him because he'd be 29 next year so las las cashout matter, sell him for peanuts now because clubs would rather have him for free so that they know its wages they're paying or he walks.. Too bad..

eph12:

Oh okay you mean he's playing well at CM?

Nope.

I am saying whatever his performance as a CM for his country can't be used to defend him starting as DM for his club. Issa simple sturvs.

We don't know if he is playing well as a CM but you and i both agree that he is crap as a DM..............so he should sit his ass down on the bench.

eph12:



1. Fred is never a CDM. He wasn't yesterday, he's not today, he won't be tomorrow.

LostMyZeal:


You're being mischievous and not a CR7 fan.
Stop the infiltration

I saw that comment, i just hiss and look away

afrodoc and eph12 dey argue CM and CDM abi na CAC doesn't really matter Fred is crap all round doesn't matter the position he plays.
Those weakness we spoke about:
1) Difficulty receiving the ball on the half turn from CBs especially under pressure (key requirement of a CDM).

2) Inconsistent first touch

3) Rushing into challenges and gets dribbled past a bit too easily at times

4) Poor shooting ability.

Will always be there regardless the position he plays.

Panther7:
afrodoc and eph12 dey argue CM and CDM abi na CAC doesn't really matter Fred is crap all round doesn't matter the position he plays.
Those weakness we spoke about:
1) Difficulty receiving the ball on the half turn from CBs especially under pressure (key requirement of a CDM).

2) Inconsistent first touch

3) Rushing into challenges and gets dribbled past a bit too easily at times

4) Poor shooting ability.

Will always be there regardless the position he plays.

**Why will you be using poor shooting ability to judge Fred a cdm?

** What is inconsistent first touch?

Bombblacks:

**Why will you be using poor shooting ability to judge Fred a cdm?

** What is inconsistent first touch?

See as you just jumping into the discussion without understanding the origin of the discussion.

Lol

Karleb:

By the time Pogba leaves, either for free or not, e go clear for our eyes.

He has been here for 4 years, yet him no light up the EPL. Maybe Pogba style isn't suited for fast pace English football, make him go PSG abeg....

Panther7:
See as you just jumping into the discussion without understanding the origin of the discussion.

The discussion is obvious to anyone. Fred weakness we spoke about . You listed two things I find strange

** Poor shooting ability and inconsistent first touch ( whatever that means).

Karleb:

By the time Pogba leaves, either for free or not, e go clear for our eyes.

abeg let him gettat!

TrebleChamp:
I saw that comment, i just hiss and look away

Lol...he dey use sarcasm pull him own legs

LostMyZeal:


Lol...he dey use sarcasm pull him own legs

Just to be sure we understand ourselves, here are the meanings of most acronyms used here:

DM: Defensive Midfielder
CDM: Central Defensive Midfielder
DMF: Defensive Midfielder
CDMF: Central Defensive Midfielder

Thanks.

Karleb:

By the time Pogba leaves, either for free or not, e go clear for our eyes.

This United cannot do without Pogba narrative must be a disorder of some sort.
Maybe, it's time to be more sympathetic than rash because its got to be an underlying health issue

Now this is even more serious than I thought

Meanwhile, lovers of good news, Pogboom is coming home

CrystalTiger:


E shock me say fans dey talk of keeping him because we're now assembling better players that will make him thrive..He's a great talent but it'd be bad watching him leave for free again.That'd be over £120m(transfer fee and wages) on an investment gone just like that..

With Raiola as an agent and PSG by the corner, I'd start believing in miracles if Pogba renews..The money he'd make if he leaves for free can turn anyone's head..

At the end of the day, he holds all the cards now..Don't know why the club left it so late..They either shatter the wage structure again for him because he'd be 29 next year so las las cashout matter, sell him for peanuts now because clubs would rather have him for free so that they know its wages they're paying or he walks.. Too bad..

if the board can't get him to extend his contract on commensurate wages as offered, then he should be sold.
a team that has won nothing for years running cannot be offering an existing member ridiculous markup in compensation.
while it may look investment-smart to offer the 400k, he's not going to stay for much longer anyways and I doubt there'd be a better window to make some decent recoup after his recent showings at the Euros.
the board started this nonsense when they offered Rashford and his cousin 450k weekly.

LostMyZeal:



This United cannot do without Pogba narrative must be a disorder of some sort.
Maybe, it's time to be more sympathetic than rash because its got to be an underlying health issue

Now this is even more serious than I thought

Meanwhile, lovers of good news, Pogboom is coming home

I didn't imply that united can't do without Pogba.

Herrera left and he is the reason why many here are still arguing whether Fred is a DM or CDM.

I wonder why no one has been able to unlock Pogba fully but on his good day, he adds quality to the team.

Lol...

TrebleChamp:
He has been here for 4 years, yet him no light up the EPL. Maybe Pogba style isn't suited for fast pace English football, make him go PSG abeg....

Abeg help me wonder oh..

It pains these Pogba people sooo much that in 1 year, Bruno came and did what their favorite peacock couldn't do for over 3 years

The pain is understandable. We're all humans afterall.

LostMyZeal:




Abeg help me wonder oh..

It pains these Pogba people sooo much that in 1 year, Bruno came and did what their favorite peacock couldn't do for over 3 years


The pain is understandable. We're all humans afterall.

What did Bruno do

Somebody go soon suffocate for here

LostMyZeal:




Abeg help me wonder oh..

It pains these Pogba people sooo much that in 1 year, Bruno came and did what their favorite peacock couldn't do for over 3 years

The pain is understandable. We're all humans afterall.

What is this now?

What does Pogba staying or leaving has to do with Bruno? Ehn?

TrebleChamp:
He has been here for 4 years, yet him no light up the EPL. Maybe Pogba style isn't suited for fast pace English football, make him go PSG abeg....

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