aljharem:

Imi, Imu (Yoruba) Onu, Enu (Yoruba)

I know but i hope you get my point

Ngodigha1:
They are originally Edo people. However, large number yoruba emigration into that territory has influenced their tongue and even in their names. I think Nigeria needs to carry out boundary adjustments. If that is done, the Akokos will be merged with their kins in Edo state.

My in-laws are Akoko Ondo they were the Original inhabitants of Ile Ife before Oduduwa displaced them and the Ugbo in fact they are of Ugbo Stock, Ibadan also ruled them

eziza:


So you mean say for dis small kpangolo 9ja wey we dey so, you never hear of Obahiagbon the gammarian?

Ok ooo...

Obasohan
Obasogie
Obasuyi
Obakpolor
Obadigie
Obamwonyi
Obaretin
Igbinoba
Ikponmwonba
Ohonba
Obobaifo
Aiguobasiwin
Aikhionbare
Aiwerioba
Edoba
Enobakhare
Eghobamien

....just to name a few.

and oh btw, Oba is an Edo word!

Even to de present governor of de state: OBASEKI

macof:
I didnt say there was no Edo group before Oranmiyan, wat I said was dat he displaced the former kings of the land and made his first son to continue, Edo is in no way yoruba but their kings are Yoruba

U should know dat Oduduwa is a son of Edo

Trace it from here and correct urself

Bigsunny01:



U should know dat Oduduwa is a son of Edo

Trace it from here and correct urself

Keep your silly self quiet.

What do you know. You think this is edoworld.com where you get all those retarded nonsense to massage your little fragile Bini ego

macof:


Keep your silly self quiet.

What do you know. You think this is edoworld.com where you get all those retarded nonsense to massage your little fragile Bini ego

You can hide from de truth for all I care, but u can never change the truth

Bigsunny01:


You can hide from de truth for all I care, but u can never change the truth

You don't know the truth. Keep your silly self shut

ijawcitizen:
The Ogiso dynasty wasn't heriditary. It was more like a traditional/customary democracy setting where the kingship rotated from town to town amongst the natives of the Benin Region who are the Ijaws, Binis & Urhobo.

Here is one more identifiable Ijaw Ogiso after the first two
" Ogiso Erebo (618– 632 CE), was a fisherman and canoe
carver, chosen from Okhorho quarters. (IKORO is an Ijaw community in Olodiama clan) He had a
repertoire of stories about sea animals such as
mermaids, sharks, crocodiles etc.

SOURCE: http://www.edofolks.com/html/osahon_ogiso_dynasty.htm

But today, the Oba of Benin (who is in fact a migrant) is describing the Ijaws in Edo state as riverine settlers from Bayelsa!

It doesn't say Ogiso Erebo was an ijaw man only that he came from Okhorho qtrs.. how can u prove ijaws had settled in that area at that time? ijaws are known to be migrant settlers..

Bigsunny01:


Even to de present governor of de state: OBASEKI

Oba Yoruba word Stupid Obasuyi is Ile-ile name like most of the name you listed .. You people are off shoot of Ile-ife pride are Arrogance is diluding you edos

Obalufon:
Oba Yoruba word Stupid Obasuyi is Ile-ile name like most of the name you listed .. You people are off shoot of Ile-ife pride are Arrogance is diluding you edos

Swallow ur pride before u turn ur self into a monkey

Oduduwa is a son of Edo state

Ngodigha1:
They are originally Edo people. However, large number yoruba emigration into that territory has influenced their tongue and even in their names. I think Nigeria needs to carry out boundary adjustments. If that is done, the Akokos will be merged with their kins in Edo state.

wow,,this is true my dad is from akoko north east,,when he speaks u will think hes not a Yoruba man in fact he doesn't look like a Yoruba man..

davidnazee:


It doesn't say Ogiso Erebo was an ijaw man only that he came from Okhorho qtrs.. how can u prove ijaws had settled in that area at that time? ijaws are known to be migrant settlers..

If Ogiso Erebo was n ot an Ijaw man, there was no way he could have knowledge of sea animals like sharks
Spelling Ikoro (an Ijo community) as Okhoro (a Bini community behind the tiny Ikpoba river) where such sea animals can get never be found is a very laughable act of historical distortion by the serial historical revisionists severally caught red handed by their Yoruba conquers.

Ngodigha1:
They are originally Edo people. However, large number yoruba emigration into that territory has influenced their tongue and even in their names. I think Nigeria needs to carry out boundary adjustments. If that is done, the Akokos will be merged with their kins in Edo state.

They were from Ile Ife Originally Before Oduduwa they are Solid Yoruba

Aare Oona Kakanfo of Yorubaland Gani Adams is Akoko

ijawcitizen:

If Ogiso Erebo was n ot an Ijaw man, there was no way he could have knowledge of sea animals like sharks
Spelling Ikoro (an Ijo community) as Okhoro (a Bini community behind the tiny Ikpoba river) where such sea animals can get never be found is a very laughable act of historical distortion by the serial historical revisionists severally caught red handed by their Yoruba conquers.

Shatapp Barcanista, stop spreading false junk

macof:


Keep your silly self quiet.

What do you know. You think this is edoworld.com where you get all those retarded nonsense to massage your little fragile Bini ego

You too keep shut. What input are you making than insulting other peoples tribe and dignity. That's how you said '...we are not like Igbos who are land grabber...:

If you don't have anything to say than countering with insults, just keep your motuh shut. Nonsense...

The Edo man is giving his view and you're insulting him, for what reason? To shelter your pride. How horrible of you.

Since I've been viewing this thread there's nothing you've said that has made sense in any way, the Edo's are making much sense while you are shutting people here and there, and insulting other tribes just to feel good.

ijawcitizen:
The Ogiso dynasty wasn't heriditary. It was more like a traditional/customary democracy setting where the kingship rotated from town to town amongst the natives of the Benin Region who are the Ijaws, Binis & Urhobo.

Here is one more identifiable Ijaw Ogiso after the first two
" Ogiso Erebo (618– 632 CE), was a fisherman and canoe
carver, chosen from Okhorho quarters. (IKORO is an Ijaw community in Olodiama clan) He had a
repertoire of stories about sea animals such as
mermaids, sharks, crocodiles etc.

SOURCE: http://www.edofolks.com/html/osahon_ogiso_dynasty.htm

But today, the Oba of Benin (who is in fact a migrant) is describing the Ijaws in Edo state as riverine settlers from Bayelsa!

Benin early history is far more complex than it's just being presented. Ijaw and Urhobo are not just the only tribes that share similar words with Benin.

The question is, were these various tribes indigenous to Benin and migrated out during the various times of upheavals or they were people that migrated to Benin for greener pastures and later went back home during the times of internal conflicts.

What various tribes have done in the past was find ways to distort the history of Benin to their advantage including those that argue that Oranmiyan and Ife conquered Benin. In reality Oranmiyan and Ife was never documented in history as having any army, infact Oranmiyan and Ife didn't even enter Yoruba historical records until after 1826, anyone that disagree can provide evidence.

The Yoruba kingdom that was recorded in history to have had an army was the Oyo kingdom and Alaafin of Oyo was recorded in history as the leader of all Yorubas. In 1826 when the British first entered the hinterland of Yoruba, the same Alaafin told the British governor that the Oba of Benin was his friend to whom he relied on for military assistance.

Let's examine the Igbo angle of Benin history. The similarities between some Igbo names and historical figures, town in Benin history can't just be wished away, are these similarities in names coincidence? Did the Igbos migrated from Benin as told by the likes of Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe or did they came to Benin for greener pastures only to later return back home as others argued.

The similarities between the names in Onitsha and Benin.

Starting with the traditional title of the Obi of Onitsha, Agboghidi. Agboghidi was a well known personage in Benin history, he was the founder of Ugo town in Orhionwon local government area.

The Onitsha people must revered shrine is called Udo. Udo was a rival town to Benin in Edo south. Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe told us the Onitsha people left Benin during the reign of Oba Esigie. Now, it's recorded in Benin history that there was a war between Oba Esigie and Aruan n' Okemenzi of Udo which Esigie warned with the help of his mother queen Idia of the famous FESTAC mask. Oba Esigie and Aruan were both princes that were born on the same day, but Oba Esigie birth was reported to the Palace first, when Aruan grew up the mother told him how he was short changed by the mother of his junior brother queen Idia, when their father the Oba, died, the two princes fought themselves for the throne.

There is another well celebrated aspect of Benin history involving the wrestling match between Azagidi of Urhonigbe and Izu.

How many Benin people know that Iken from which the Benin crown prince Okoro takes his title Edaiken of Uselu was another strong historical figure and leader of Uselu town which is now a district of Benin city.

Across Anioma to Onitsha, the traditional courts are style like that of Benin and many traditional titles are similar to Benin traditional titles.

What about the Eze family of chief Ezomo of Benin.

What about the four market days Benin shares with Igbo. Also don't forget the new yam festival.

The question is, did these people took along with them these names as they left Benin, they must have taken some and what did migrants into Benin bring into Benin.

Anyone attempting to study the oral history of Benin must also take into account and study the oral history of the various tribes that claim one form of Benin connection or another.

There are various angles to Benin history, the eastern Akoko Yoruba angle, Lagos/Eko angle, the south south Ikwerre, Ogba angle, Igala Benue angle, etc. I have even heard of the Ghana angle.

Benin written history from 1400s is very well established but the period earlier than the 1400s that wasn't written should be examined with open minds. Benin kingdom wasn't just a Benin city affairs, so we must expand our research beyond Benin city.

Benin history shouldn't be reduced to Benin/Yoruba squabbles, or Benin/Ijaw/Itsekiri etc banter. Benin history is way bigger than that.

ThickSharon123:


You too keep shut. What input are you making than insulting other peoples tribe and dignity. That's how you said '...we are not like Igbos who are land grabber...:

If you don't have anything to say than countering with insults, just keep your motuh shut. Nonsense...

The Edo man is giving his view and you're insulting him, for what reason? To shelter your pride. How horrible of you.

Since I've been viewing this thread there's nothing you've said that has made sense in any way, the Edo's are making much sense while you are shutting people here and there, and insulting other tribes just to feel good.

You too keep your silly self shut. You are even less intelligent than he is

Bigsunny01:


You can hide from de truth for all I care, but u can never change the truth

Does this look like a person ready for intellectual conversation or a person trying to force a mere claim as fact.
Saying I can hide from the truth, what truth?
What does he or you know about history

You are so dull that you can't differentiate between a person stating a view while being open to change their mind and a person trying to force you to accept what is beneath your level of awareness and knowledge without room for conversation. How can you go around claiming oduduwa is a Bini Prince and add "you can hide from the truth but can't change it"
What makes that the truth? What argument did he present, what evidence? And you reply me saying this nonsense.

You expect me to keep repeating myself to you guys who keep repeating the same nonsense you pick up from your blogs to satisfy you?
If you cannot see my input on this forum then you need mental evaluation, cus nobody on the culture section is unaware of my inputs.

macof:


You too keep your silly self shut. You are even less intelligent than he is


Does this look like a person ready for intellectual conversation or a person trying to force a mere claim as fact.
Saying I can hide from the truth, what truth?
What does he or you know about history

You are so dull that you can't differentiate between a person stating a view while being open to change their mind and a person trying to force you to accept what is beneath your level of awareness and knowledge without room for conversation. How can you go around claiming oduduwa is a Bini Prince and add "you can hide from the truth but can't change it"
What makes that the truth? What argument did he present, what evidence? And you reply me saying this nonsense.

You expect me to keep repeating myself to you guys who keep repeating the same nonsense you pick up from your blogs to satisfy you?
If you cannot see my input on this forum then you need mental evaluation, cus nobody on the culture section is unaware of my inputs.

I can smell your stinking mouth even though is on the internet. Why do you lack comprehension. Most of your details are either attached with insults or trying to belittle other tribes while you make input. You're simply a �.... nonsense.

ThickSharon123:

I can smell your stinking mouth even though is on the internet. Why do you lack comprehension. Most of your details are either attached with insults or trying to belittle other tribes while you make input. You're simply a �.... nonsense.

I just checked your main page and I can see I can't even waste my time with you. No wonder you aren't making any sense. Go back to dating and hook up section

macof:

I just checked your main page and I can see I can't even waste my time with you. No wonder you aren't making any sense. Go back to dating and hook up section

Because you know reach. No girl can date a man that talks like a angry woman ...who knows you might be ten years old.

People should go by what the historian has been saying..The original land owners are the edos.. AKOKO is an EDO word just as OBA is an EDO word. No natives who migrate to other land are always taking over the land of the natives and this is not a good thing.. Those who have migrated to another land must accept the identity of the land.. Ghanaians would not come to Nigeria and claim Nigeria is GHANA.

Oba is Edo word ? You guys won't stop fooling yourselves,walahi ! Was there anything like the word "Oba" in your tongues before Oranmiyan 's dynasty was established by OranmiyanOmoluabi Odede,a Yoruba prince from Ile Ife ? You guys will just be saying nonsense ! Do you even know the meaning of Oba - Oba to ba l'ori ohun gbogbo,Alase ikeji Orisa ! Oba to ba n'ile,Oba to ba l'oko ! Do you ?

Akoko is not Yoruba word,right ? It must be a fufude word then ! "Ile Akoko ni won ti n'gbedo " - I have known this even right from the infancy just like any Yoruba child ,yet one nincompoop from 'Ile Ibinu"(Benin) here is telling me that Akoko is not my word ! Who even cares if some Akoko people see themselves as Europeans ? The fact is that Yoruba don't care about such mundane stuffs.

As a people,Yoruba know who they are,their history and nobody is going to rewrite it for them ! In any as much as we know the history of Benin from the perspective of Oranmiyan,the founder of modern Benin kingdom and who brought Yoruba's Obaship system to that part of the world, we don't see it as any worthy subject of debate with anybody because it is what it is - fact ! This is why most Yoruba here don't respond to some of the lies you Bini people fraudulently termed history. We just laugh over them as childish tantrums that they are actually.The king of an Ijaw community (Gedegede or something; can't remember the spelling) in Edo state categorically stated recently that Oba of Benin is not superior to him and that's because they (Ijaw) are the original owners of even Benin and its environs. His claim was that the binis met them on the land and that you guys came from Yoruba land ! What that Ijaw king narrated couldn't be said to be wrong entirely. How comes it is only in Benin that the tittle of a king is Oba and same is not found among your immediate neighbours - other ethnic groups ? How come you Bini could not influence these other ethnic groups in edo state,for instance,to adopt Oba as the tittle of their kings or rulers ? This is because that word "Oba" is not originally yours ! Remember,Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede,a Yoruba prince from Ile Ife,was the first king in Benin to use the tittle "Oba". What you had before Oranmiyan got to Benin was " Ogiso" as the tittle of your rulers. It is a fact.

Now tell me,all the Orisa in your palace - IFA,Ogun,Sango,Obatala,Yemoja,Osun,Osanyinetc,are they indigenous to Bini people ? They all belong to Yoruba and are indigenous Yoruba idols. Do you think it is by accident that today,Yoruba people are the most researched ethnic group in Africa ? Are you aware that the ancient Pharaohs of Egypt DNAs did not even match with the DNA of the present days Egyptians ? They found their match ONLY in the Yoruba people of Nigeria and Benin republic ! That is because the Pharaohs of old were not Arabs; they were black people ! This is an archeological fact and a recent discovery. You can google it.

The inscriptions and wordings on the Opa Oranmiyan (Oramiyan's staff) and those found on some ancient objects inside Osun Osogbo Groove and on its bare floors are the only semitic alphabets and words found in the whole of west Africa ! What does that mean ? It means we are originally from the middle East; descendants of Lamurudu (Nimroid) and this is why IFA says that we are from the East- middle East precisely ! Renown Linguists are quite shocked to discover recently that there exists lots of similarities between Yoruba language and the semitic language - the language of the ancients Jews.These are not fabrications but results of painstaking research works by known and reputable researchers and Archeologists. You can do your own findings too. We know that all these facts do not make us the ancient Hebrews because we know that we are a distinct people and we are very proud of that. We are the Yoruba - the ancient black people of great civilization !

If as a people (Yoruba) we know all these facts and we are not even bragging about it,do you think we care about what any Bini people think or may chose to believe ? We are not competing with you; in fact,you ain't a competition for us,I'm sorry ! We know who we are. We are Yoruba; African finest. It is not an accident that in all the countries where Yoruba people are found and indigenous to,they are always highly civilised, well educated ,influential and peace loving. Just check it out : Yoruba of Nigeria,Yoruba of Ghana (Ga and Ewe people),Yoruba of Sierra Leone (Krios or Creoles),Yoruba of Gambia ( Aku and Creole), Yoruba of Benin republic ,The Lukumis of Cuba,the Bahians of Brazil, the Egbas of Jamaica,the Yoruba Islanders of Senegal etc. Go and check our communities in all of these countries; they are top notched ! Have you ever asked yourself why South western part of Nigeria is the most urbanised and developed ? Civilization has always been parts of our lives right from our ancient Egyptian era.

Trust me,Yoruba people don't even care about whatever story you may be telling the world just to suit your narratives. We know who we are and nothing is going to change it.

Iree o !

PhysicsQED:
^

Iyoba is "Iye-Oba." Iye is the Edo word for mother - there isn't some other word for mother in the Edo ('Bini') language. 'Omo' is used by most - if not all - of the groups that speak 'Edoid' languages - Etsako, Urhobo, Isoko, Engenni, Degema, etc. Not sure why you thought it was exclusively Yoruba.

What does 'osa' mean in Yoruba? Just wondering.

Osa means deity or god in Yoruba. The standard form Orisa.

VEHINTOLAR:


Oba is Edo word ? You guys won't stop fooling yourselves,walahi ! Was there anything like the word "Oba" in your tongues before Oranmiyan 's dynasty was established by OranmiyanOmoluabi Odede,a Yoruba prince from Ile Ife ? You guys will just be saying nonsense ! Do you even know the meaning of Oba - Oba to ba l'ori ohun gbogbo,Alase ikeji Orisa ! Oba to ba n'ile,Oba to ba l'oko ! Do you ?

Akoko is not Yoruba word,right ? It must be a fufude word then ! "Ile Akoko ni won ti n'gbedo " - I have known this even right from the infancy just like any Yoruba child ,yet one nincompoop from 'Ile Ibinu"(Benin) here is telling me that Akoko is not my word ! Who even cares if some Akoko people see themselves as Europeans ? The fact is that Yoruba don't care about such mundane stuffs.

As a people,Yoruba know who they are,their history and nobody is going to rewrite it for them ! In any as much as we know the history of Benin from the perspective of Oranmiyan,the founder of modern Benin kingdom and who brought Yoruba's Obaship system to that part of the world, we don't see it as any worthy subject of debate with anybody because it is what it is - fact ! This is why most Yoruba here don't respond to some of the lies you Bini people fraudulently termed history. We just laugh over them as childish tantrums that they are actually.The king of an Ijaw community (Gedegede or something; can't remember the spelling) in Edo state categorically stated recently that Oba of Benin is not superior to him and that's because they (Ijaw) are the original owners of even Benin and its environs. His claim was that the binis met them on the land and that you guys came from Yoruba land ! What that Ijaw king narrated couldn't be said to be wrong entirely. How comes it is only in Benin that the tittle of a king is Oba and same is not found among your immediate neighbours - other ethnic groups ? How come you Bini could not influence these other ethnic groups in edo state,for instance,to adopt Oba as the tittle of their kings or rulers ? This is because that word "Oba" is not originally yours ! Remember,Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede,a Yoruba prince from Ile Ife,was the first king in Benin to use the tittle "Oba". What you had before Oranmiyan got to Benin was " Ogiso" as the tittle of your rulers. It is a fact.

Now tell me,all the Orisa in your palace - IFA,Ogun,Sango,Obatala,Yemoja,Osun,Osanyinetc,are they indigenous to Bini people ? They all belong to Yoruba and are indigenous Yoruba idols. Do you think it is by accident that today,Yoruba people are the most researched ethnic group in Africa ? Are you aware that the ancient Pharaohs of Egypt DNAs did not even match with the DNA of the present days Egyptians ? They found their match ONLY in the Yoruba people of Nigeria and Benin republic ! That is because the Pharaohs of old were not Arabs; they were black people ! This is an archeological fact and a recent discovery. You can google it.

The inscriptions and wordings on the Opa Oranmiyan (Oramiyan's staff) and those found on some ancient objects inside Osun Osogbo Groove and on its bare floors are the only semitic alphabets and words found in the whole of west Africa ! What does that mean ? It means we are originally from the middle East; descendants of Lamurudu (Nimroid) and this is why IFA says that we are from the East- middle East precisely ! Renown Linguists are quite shocked to discover recently that there exists lots of similarities between Yoruba language and the semitic language - the language of the ancients Jews.These are not fabrications but results of painstaking research works by known and reputable researchers and Archeologists. You can do your own findings too. We know that all these facts do not make us the ancient Hebrews because we know that we are a distinct people and we are very proud of that. We are the Yoruba - the ancient black people of great civilization !

If as a people (Yoruba) we know all these facts and we are not even bragging about it,do you think we care about what any Bini people think or may chose to believe ? We are not competing with you; in fact,you ain't a competition for us,I'm sorry ! We know who we are. We are Yoruba; African finest. It is not an accident that in all the countries where Yoruba people are found and indigenous to,they are always highly civilised, well educated ,influential and peace loving. Just check it out : Yoruba of Nigeria,Yoruba of Ghana (Ga and Ewe people),Yoruba of Sierra Leone (Krios or Creoles),Yoruba of Gambia ( Aku and Creole), Yoruba of Benin republic ,The Lukumis of Cuba,the Bahians of Brazil, the Egbas of Jamaica,the Yoruba Islanders of Senegal etc. Go and check our communities in all of these countries; they are top notched ! Have you ever asked yourself why South western part of Nigeria is the most urbanised and developed ? Civilization has always been parts of our lives right from our ancient Egyptian era.

Trust me,Yoruba people don't even care about whatever story you may be telling the world just to suit your narratives. We know who we are and nothing is going to change it.

Iree o !

There are few stuffs you wrote that are not actually correct.

The Ijaw doesn't have a king in gelegele. Gelegele is part of Edo south and Edo south has only one king, the Oba of Benin. All other traditional rulers are Dukes of different dukedoms.

The current Oba of Benin and his late father acknowledge Oranmiyan as a descendant of a Benin prince Oduduwa.

Even you admitted in your writeup that Oduduwa was a foreigner from the middle east to Ife. The Benin also agree that Oduduwa was also a foreigner that migrated to Ife from a city which is geographically east of Ife and the name of the city is Benin city. The difference between Yoruba and Benin accounts is that Yoruba believe Oduduwa migrated from Egypt/Saudi Arabia whilst Benin believe Oduduwa was a Benin prince.

Even if you are right that Oduduwa originally migrated into Nigeria from the middle east, that will make his descendants of middle east or Egyptian origin of which Yoruba will just be one of the tribes that have Oduduwa descendants. Besides Oduduwa met people already living in Ife.

Yet, some argue that Oduduwa and Oranmiyan are mythical figures that never existed.

Are you also aware of Igbo historical accounts that claims the Oba of Benin has Igbo.

The uniqueness of Benin is that most tribes in southern and middle belt Nigeria have different claims to the kingdom and Yoruba's claim is not unique, other tribes also have theirs. What Benin history and the traditional authority acknowledge is that Oduduwa was a Benin prince that founded Ife.

samuk:


There are few stuffs you wrote that are not actually correct.

The Ijaw doesn't have a king in gelegele. Gelegele is part of Edo south and Edo south has only one king, the Oba of Benin. All other traditional rulers are Dukes of different dukedoms.

The current Oba of Benin and his late father acknowledge Oranmiyan as a descendant of a Benin prince Oduduwa.

Even you admitted in your writeup that Oduduwa was a foreigner from the middle east to Ife. The Benin also agree that Oduduwa was also a foreigner that migrated to Ife from a city which is geographically east of Ife and the name of the city is Benin city. The difference between Yoruba and Benin accounts is that Yoruba believe Oduduwa migrated from Egypt/Saudi Arabia whilst Benin believe Oduduwa was a Benin prince.

Even if you are right that Oduduwa originally migrated into Nigeria from the middle east, that will make his descendants of middle east or Egyptian origin of which Yoruba will just be one of.

Are you also aware of Igbo historical accounts that claims the Oba of Benin has Igbo.

The uniqueness of Benin is that most tribes in southern and middle belt Nigeria have different claims to the kingdom and Yoruba's claim is not unique, other tribes also have theirs. What Benin history and the traditional authority acknowledge is that Oduduwa was a Benin prince that founded Ife.

Try harder, fact remains what it is and that' it is a fact ! Shocking but undeniable facts await you at Ile Ife. I can only encourage you to visit,learn and be set free from all these obvious lies and self deceits that won't profit you guys in any way. After all, your present Oba visited just like his predecessors. Have heard of a place,a shrine actually,that's called "Ori Oba Ado" before ? It's in Ile Ife. Please,look for somebody that understands Yoruba to tell you what it means.

I do not have any issue with you if as a Bini man,you refuse to recognise the ruler of Gelegelegbene Ijaw community as a king. That is left for the Ijaws here to deal with. However, this is what the Ijaws of that community said as culled from the Vanguard Newspaper of 30th October, 2018 captioned - EDO : IJAW WON'T CEDE LAND,IDENTITY TO BINI. You may google it.

“They (Bini people) met Ijaw people at Gelegelegbene and begged for help to be ferried to the other side and out of magnanimity, we ferried them to where they are now. This is recorded in all the history books and it was affirmed by renowned Benin writers.

“However, there is a tendency that Benin migrants who escaped from Ile-Ife may have married Ijaw women from Gelegelegbene community and other Ijaw communities to have raised Benin kingdom as there is no historical record showing that the Yoruba fleeing migrants arrived in Gelegelegbene with a wife.

“What is expected, therefore, is that the Obaseki-led Edo State government should have direct dealings with Gelegelegbene, other Ijaw host communities and the various Ijaw monarchs where this seaport project is located.”

The Ijaw said that you Bini were fleeing migrants from Ile Ife ! This specifically substantiate the fact that some groups of Yoruba,at a time in history, arrived at a location known today as Benin city. These people came with Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede,a prince from Ile Ife in present day Osun state. The Ijaws have this record well documented in their archives. There were turbulence,chaos and famine at the time Oranmiyan arrived benin,hence the name Ile Ibinu which is now corrupted as Ibini or Benin. It may interest you know that we have - Ile Ife,Ile Ijesha,Ile Oyo,etc in Yoruba land.

Oduduwa could not have been a Bini man if the the recent archeological discovery and DNA result show that the DNA of Yoruba people of Nigeria and that of Benin republic matches with that of ancient Pharaohs of Egypt ! The only people with such DNA in west Africa. In fact,majority of present days Egyptians do not have the ancient Pharaohs DNA !

I knew you you would be quick to talk about the nonsensical stuff that Oduduwa was a prince or whatever from Benin and that was why I informed you about semitic alphabets and written words on Oranmiyan staff ( it is in Ile Ife,you can visit to see it) and such similar alphabets and writings found in Osun Osogbo groove. They are semitic alphabets of ancients people of the middle East - the present geographical areas that cover Egypt, Palestine, Israel,etc.

Tell me,in your history, who is the father of Oduduwa ? Before you come up with another fabrications,remember that Oduduwa knew his father's name as he rightly informed the people of Ile Ife about his father name. The name of his father is Lamurudu (Nimroid),a middle eastern magician who hailed from around present day Iraq. This is is why Yoruba will say Lamurudu baba Oduduwa.

Also remember that Oduduwa told the people of Ife that he came from a very far place. What is the distance of Benin from Ile Ife ? It is not far. Are you aware of the fact that the first mosque in Yoruba land was built 1655 in a town called Iwo ,Osun state ? This is to tell you that people from the far lands - north Africa and middle east had been visiting Yoruba land from time immemorial. This is why it is also an anomaly for anybody to think that the descendants of Usman Dan fodio introduced Islam to Yoruba people. It is wrong just as it is wrong to think that Oduduwa was a Bini man !

It is not a coincidence that Researchers are discovering in recent times lots of similarities between Yoruba language and the ancient semitic language of the old middle east. You guys can continue to swim in self deceit,the fact remains that Oduduwa was NEVER a Bini prince or whatever and if he told the people that he met at Ile Ife that he came from a far east and today,archaeological evidences,found only in Yoruba land,are proving that there exists some connections between ancient Pharaohs kings and the Yoruba people via DNA test and similar alphabets,I think you Bini should look elsewhere for your lost king or whatever you call him.

The only reason why Benin kingdom was not attacked by the Indefatigable Yoruba army of that era was because of Oranmiyan's connection as the founder of that kingdom. Otherwise,you guys would have been paying isakoke to the Alaafin ! It is a fact and you may wish to check the spread of the old Oyo empire for you to clear any doubt about the capabilies of the Oyo (Yoruba) army to do that !

VEHINTOLAR:


Try harder, fact remains what it is and that' it is a fact ! Shocking but undeniable facts await you at Ile Ife. I can only encourage you to visit,learn and be set free from all these obvious lies and self deceits that won't profit you guys in any way. After all, your present Oba visited just like his predecessors. Have heard of a place,a shrine actually,that's called "Ori Oba Ado" before ? It's in Ile Ife. Please,look for somebody that understands Yoruba to tell you what it means.

I do not have any issue with you if as a Bini man,you refuse to recognise the ruler of Gelegelegbene Ijaw community as a king. That is left for the Ijaws here to deal with. However, this is what the Ijaws of that community said as culled from the Vanguard Newspaper of 30th October, 2018 captioned - EDO : IJAW WON'T CEDE LAND,IDENTITY TO BINI. You may google it.

“They (Bini people) met Ijaw people at Gelegelegbene and begged for help to be ferried to the other side and out of magnanimity, we ferried them to where they are now. This is recorded in all the history books and it was affirmed by renowned Benin writers.

“However, there is a tendency that Benin migrants who escaped from Ile-Ife may have married Ijaw women from Gelegelegbene community and other Ijaw communities to have raised Benin kingdom as there is no historical record showing that the Yoruba fleeing migrants arrived in Gelegelegbene with a wife.

“What is expected, therefore, is that the Obaseki-led Edo State government should have direct dealings with Gelegelegbene, other Ijaw host communities and the various Ijaw monarchs where this seaport project is located.”

The Ijaw said that you Bini were fleeing migrants from Ile Ife ! This specifically substantiate the fact that some groups of Yoruba,at a time in history, arrived at a location known today as Benin city. These people came with Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede,a prince from Ile Ife in present day Osun state. The Ijaws have this record well documented in their archives. There were turbulence,chaos and famine at the time Oranmiyan arrived benin,hence the name Ile Ibinu which is now corrupted as Ibini or Benin. It may interest you know that we have - Ile Ife,Ile Ijesha,Ile Oyo,etc in Yoruba land.

Oduduwa could not have been a Bini man if the the recent archeological discovery and DNA result show that the DNA of Yoruba people of Nigeria and that of Benin republic matches with that of ancient Pharaohs of Egypt ! The only people with such DNA in west Africa. In fact,majority of present days Egyptians do not have the ancient Pharaohs DNA !

I knew you you would be quick to talk about the nonsensical stuff that Oduduwa was a prince or whatever from Benin and that was why I informed you about semitic alphabets and written words on Oranmiyan staff ( it is in Ile Ife,you can visit to see it) and those found in Osun Osogbo groove. They are semitic alphabets of ancients people of the middle East - the present geographical areas that cover Egypt, Palestine, Israel,etc.

Tell me,in your history, who is the father of Oduduwa ? Before you come up with another fabrication,remember that Oduduwa knew his father's name as he informed the people of Ile Ife. The name of his father Lamurudu (Nimroid),a middle eastern magician who hailed from around present day Iraq.

Also remember that Oduduwa told the people of Ife that he came from a very far place. What is the distance of Benin from Ile Ife ? Are you aware of the fact that the mosque in Yoruba land was built 1655 in a town called Iwo ,Osun state ? This is to tell you that people from the far lands - north Africa and middle east had been visiting Yoruba land since time immemorial. This is why it is also an anomaly for anybody to think that the descendants of Usman Dan fodio introduced Islam to Yoruba people. It is wrong just as it is wrong to think that Oduduwa was a Bini man !

It is not a coincidence that Researchers are discovering in recent times lots of similarities between Yoruba language and semitic language of the ancient middle east. You guys can continue to swim in self deceit,the fact remains that Oduduwa was NEVER a Bini prince or whatever and he told the people he met at Ile Ife that he came from a the far east and today,archaeological evidences,found only in Yoruba land,are supporting thus claim,I think you Bini should look elsewhere for your lost king or whatever you call him.

The only reason why Benin kingdom was not attacked by the Indefatigable Yoruba army of that era was because of Oranmiyan connection as the founder of that kingdom. Otherwise,you guys would have paid isakoke to the Alaafin ! It is fact and you may check the spread of the old Oyo empire for you to clear any doubt about this.

Go back and think through all that you have written? You said Oranmiyan told the people he met at Ife that he came from far east. Which means he wasn't a Yoruba man but according to you from middle east. So if we follow your logic and assuming you are right, how did the Oba of Benin become a Yoruba descendant if Oranmiyan his supposed father is from Egypt/Saudi Arabia.

You guys just write without thinking through your write ups.

Explain to us how the son of Oranmiyan who you told us is an Egyptian/Saudi Arabian became a Yoruba descendant.

samuk:


Go back and think through all that you have written? You said Oranmiyan told the people he met at Ife that he came from far east. Which means he wasn't a Yoruba man but according to you from middle east. So if we follow your logic and assuming you are right, how did the Oba of Benin become a Yoruba descendant if Oranmiyan his supposed father is from Egypt/Saudi Arabia.

You guys just write without thinking through your write ups.

Explain to us how the son of Oranmiyan who you told us is an Egyptian/Saudi Arabian became a Yoruba descendant.

Perhaps, if you read slowly without rushing to respond,you'll discover that there is nowhere in my writeup where I stated that Oranmiyan came from the middle east. Oranmiyan was a Prince of Ile Ife; he was born there ! So,I couldn't have told you that he came from far east ! Stop confusing yourself,Oduduwa is not the same as Oranmiyan. The former is the father of the latter,okay ?

What I told you was that Oduduwa actually told the people he met at Ile Ife that he came from a very far place -the middle east. And would he have been a "Yoruba" when even the people he met at Ile Ife did not call themselves "Yoruba". Yoruba is not the original name of the people of present day Yoruba land ! Task your brain a little and research that. You need to understand that Oduduwa arrived at Ile Ife with large entourage of people who later started intermarrying with the aborigines. The result of the Yoruba of today.

Oranmiyan,just like Oduduwa his father met people at Ile Ife when he arrived there,also met the Bini when he arrived at the place he later named "Ile Ibinu" that you call Benin today. What you had as ruler before his arrival was "Ogiso" dynasty. It was Oranmiyan that introduced Obaship system to your people as being practised in Ile Ife where he came from. Or why was Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede,a Yoruba prince from Ife the first Oba of Benin ? Of course,Oba of Benin is a Yoruba descendant because Oranmiyan,who founded the Oba stool, was a prince from Ile Ife and the first Oba of Benin kingdom ! Remember,that the Ijaws called you "Yoruba migrants from Ile Ife"!

Oduduwa,many centuries ago,claimed that he came from the far east and today the DNA of his descendants ( Yoruba people) is found to be very similar to those of the ancient Pharaohs of Egypt whose corpses were exhumed from the mummies for scientific evaluation to determine the original inhabitants of the ancient Egypt. What does that tell you about the progenitor of the Yoruba race ? Yoruba are the beautiful Nubians of the great black civilisation; the ancient Egyptians of old ! It is an established fact that the ancient inhabitants of that area were black people and that's why those Pharaohs were black people but not white or Arab. The present inhabitants of the middle east are Arabs,Persians and Europeans. They migrated there and dispersed the original owners through wars.

If you want,I will forward some brain bursting amazing facts about the history of Yoruba people to you. It is bigger and mightier than what you Bini can attempt to rubbish with your senseless fabrications and lies !

We,Yoruba are the Omo Alade ! You may go figure out what that means ! Are you aware that the tomb of one of the wives of king Solomon - Queen Sheba is in Yoruba land ? Trust me,we are not who you think we are !

VEHINTOLAR:


Perhaps, if you read slowly without rushing to respond,you'll discover that there is nowhere in my writeup where I stated that Oranmiyan came from the middle east. Oranmiyan was a Prince of Ile Ife; he was born there ! So,I couldn't have told you that he came from far east ! Stop confusing yourself,Oduduwa is not the same as Oranmiyan. The former is the father of the later,okay ?

What I told you was that Oduduwa actually told the people he met at Ile Ife that he came from a very far place -the middle east. And would he have been a "Yoruba" when even the people met at Ile Ife did not call themselves "Yoruba". Yoruba is not the original name of the people of present day Yoruba land ! Task your brain a little and research that. You need to understand that Oduduwa arrived at Ile Ife with large entourage of people who latter started intermarrying with the aborigines.

Oranmiyan,just like Oduduwa his father met people at Ile Ife when he arrived there,also met the Bini when he arrived at the place he later named "Ile Ibinu" that you call Benin today. What you had as ruler before his arrival was "Ogiso" dynasty. It was Oranmiyan that introduced Obaship system to your people as being practised in Ile Ife where he came from. Or why was Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede,a Yoruba prince from Ife the first Oba of Benin ? Of course,Oba of Benin is a Yoruba descendant because Oranmiyan,who founded the Oba stool, was a prince from Ile Ife and the first Oba of Benin kingdom !

Oduduwa,many centuries ago,claimed that he came from the far east and today the DNA of his descendants ( Yoruba people) is found to be very similar to those of the ancient Pharaohs of Egypt whose corpses were exhumed from the mummies for scientific evaluation to determine the original inhabitants of the ancient Egypt. What dies that tell you about the progenitor of the Yoruba race ? Yoruba are the beautiful Nubians of the great black civilisation; the ancient Egyptians of old ! It is an established fact that the ancient inhabitants of that area were black people and that's why those Pharaohs were black people but not white or Arab. The present inhabitants of the middle east are Arabs,Persians and Europeans. They migrated there and dispersed the original owners through wars.

If you want,I will forward some brain bursting amazing facts about the history of Yoruba people to you. It is bigger and mightier than what you Bini can attempt to rubbish with your senseless fabrications and lies !

We,Yoruba are the Omo Alade ! You may go figure out what that means ! Are you aware that the tomb of one of the wives of king Solomon - Queen Sheba is in Yoruba land ? Trust me,we are not who you think we are !

Okay, I get it now, Oduduwa who is the grandfather of the Oba of Benin was from the middle east and the Oba of Benin is related to the Egyptian pharaohs, king Solomon and Queen of Sheba. Cheers.

samuk:


Okay, I get it now, Oduduwa who is the grandfather of the Oba of Benin was from the middle east and the Oba of Benin is related to the Egyptian pharaohs, king Solomon and Queen of Sheba. Cheers.

Oba of Benin is a direct descendant of Oduduwa through Oranmiyan and yes,Oduduwa came from the middle east to Ile Ife as that claim is supported by IFA corpus and in recent times, by scientific research.

Perhaps,your dead ogisos might be related to king Solomon and Queen Sheba but the point I made with their references was to prove to you that people from the far east actually visited Yoruba land and had interactions with the natives at that particular period. I did not tell you that Oduduwa and King Solomon were brothers or something ! You're at the liberty to believe whatever you chose to believe and I must say that the joke is on you !

And like I told you earlier,Yoruba people don't care much about whatever you call yourselves as Bini,but we won't allow you to hang your fabricated lies on our neck as the history Oduduwa and Yoruba people. Go and look for your lost king or whatever elsewhere else. If he had come our way,he would have ended up as a slave here !

We are the Omo karo,a o ji rebi ? If you guys are looking for the people to engage in any supremacy tussle with,Yoruba are not your mate in all ramifications. The records are there for all to see even in contemporary Nigeria .We gave you civilisation through Oranmiyan , the Prince from Ile Ife and that's a fact.

My warm regards to Omo N' Oba ! I saw him at Ile Ife the last time he visited to pay homage to his father - Oonirisa,the Arole Oduduwa.

Cheers !

Christistruth00:



My in-laws are Akoko Ondo they were the Original inhabitants of Ile Ife before Oduduwa displaced them and the Ugbo in fact they are of Ugbo Stock, Ibadan also ruled them

Tell your peeps the truth everyone did not come from Ife

UGBE634:
Tell your peeps the truth everyone did not come from Ife

My in-laws from Akoko Ondo all agree that Akoko migrated from Ile Ife they speak both Yoruba and their Local dialect

Christistruth00:


My in-laws from Akoko Ondo all agree that Akoko migrated from Ile Ife they speak both Yoruba and their Local dialect

Your in-laws are from Ife not all of Akoko, You can't be from Ife and speak an edoid dialect as first dialect and the name of your king is Ovie. They agree they are from and logically all of them are from are two different things

UGBE634:
Your in-laws are from Ife not all of Akoko, You can't be from Ife and speak an edoid dialect as first dialect and the name of your king is Ovie. They agree they are from and logically all of them are from are two different things

No Akoko Ondo are Originally from Ife

Even Edo bears Yoruba Titles like Omon’Oba