If Christians were Christians, there would be no denominations in the Christian world. If Christians were really Christians, they would not quarrel with one another, nor separate from one another, but rather would be members together in the "one body of Christ". Can you picture Jesus coming back to earth today and seeking out the fellowship of his own, walking the streets and looking at its Churches?

"This Church", his guide would say, "is a
Baptist Church." "Baptist?" Jesus would
ask, "What is a Baptist Church?"

"This Church", his guide would say, "is a
Presbyterian Church." Jesus would ask,
"What do you mean by a Presbyterian
Church?"

"This Church", his guide would say, "is a
Catholic Church." Jesus would say, "I
have never heard of a Catholic Church
before".

Etc, etc, etc. After a time, Jesus, weary and
confused, would ask feebly of his guide, "Where
is the church of God?"

Beware of a child that has no father or mother. Beware! I repeat!

olaniyiYAH:
Ayodele is not looking for any popularity the has popular already can't you Google video where Adeboye says TB Joshua want to kill him

He is talking of a spiritual warfare

We don't see that realm so we can't take side on that apparently what this means is that T.B Joshua is of the devil in his opinion

Is that possible since T.B Joshua preaches love etc I would tell you even the devil takes up the garment of sheep too

So it's all for God to decide

Mikecold:
Everybody must sha bring in Adeboye name to shine but the man has been on his lane

Primate Ayodele that keeps looking for attention and been controversial has not talked about himself that is irrelevant yet keeps finding different politician good side

Last time i checked these men have no public grievance with T.B Joshua except Okotie and they do not occupy CAN or PFN board

Let me teach you. Go and read Adeboye's interview on TB Joshua. He was interviewed over ten years ago and he still stand his ground.

BlueSprint:



A generation that worships winning arguenents over rationale. I wish you well. Talkative

I'm sure you are one of the people who workshop your pastors all in the name of man of God...

Continue to let your pastors build hatred in you..

Nonsense

This guy is on point
They took christianity to the dogs by their hatred

When a man is pointing a finger at others, the other four are pointed to he himself. TB Joshua has done his part , focus on your own race.

Jesus said, forgive them for they know not what they are doing, but for this self acclaimed primate, he should fear the judgment of God.

OBUKSBAYELSA:
True Talk! But the most surprising thing is that Archbishop Idahosa who started formally the Pentecostal Movement is not given to this manner, he will not castigate the way this mini later day jesuses, who believe that without them no person will make heaven; only them and their families are good see God.
Finally the prophetic ministry should form thier own body or movement instead of joining forces with who will ask who is your father in the Lord.

Most painful thing is that , they 3 men are the the archtech of church in form of business today, most especially Adeboye

Claiming holy holy when he had turn redeem to pure family business.

It is happening.

Mark the post below because they are already happening. Blames and counter blame in Nigerian church.

What was written here: https://www.nairaland.com/6643606/tb-joshuas-death-cause-rising

A prophet is bathing a man's wife by the stream side here in ibadan as I type. Please, Ayodele, you can have your association. One thing about oyedepo, adeboye and kumuyi is, their doctrine is different. We don't go to mountains for instance but you guys do which is OK for your faith. But as my leaders, I don't want them to associate with people with such beliefs. A redeem member around akobo here in ibadan followed her neighbors to one prophet's mountain and in that vigil ran mad. I know many ministries that started and later have connections with these pastors. Let tb Joshua rest in peace and stop using him to gain popularity. Were you there? Na wao even if you were there no one acknowledged you because I watched the program throughout God help us all

Heyzeezee:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2021/07/11/tb-joshua-pastor-adeboye-oyedepo-kumuyi-caused-hatred-envy-among-church-leaders-primate-ayodele/%3futm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&amp=1

All these argument is because people are following "men of God", instead of " word of God"...
It was his death that even made me notice that there is no love lost amongst these guys..

OBUKSBAYELSA:
True Talk! But the most surprising thing is that Archbishop Idahosa who started formally the Pentecostal Movement is not given to this manner, he will not castigate the way this mini later day jesuses, who believe that without them no person will make heaven; only them and their families are good see God.
Finally the prophetic ministry should form thier own body or movement instead of joining forces with who will ask who is your father in the Lord.

Most painful is that these 3 semi god are the archtech of church in business form today, most especially Adeboye, claiming holy holy when he has turned redeem to family business.

He turned tb joshua to his permanent enermy.

Even if it's truth that Joshua is not sent by God , he is never a yard stick to turn human being to his enermy

Bible say we are not fighting flesh or blood, but principality of high places.

He was envy and jealous of a man of God , becoz he was gifted than him in prophetic ministry.

Yoruba adage. "A n juwon lo ko se n wi lejo , ija ilara ko tan boro."

Heyzeezee:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2021/07/11/tb-joshua-pastor-adeboye-oyedepo-kumuyi-caused-hatred-envy-among-church-leaders-primate-ayodele/%3futm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&amp=1

I read this to actually see what the pastors mentioned did that warranted the allegation but nothing was mentioned. This is pure defamation and in a sane clime, this primate would be sued.

SporaD8:

Sincerely, am beginning to feel discomforted with the silent demeanor of these sets of MOGs especially pertaining to discuss of National and Public issue.
Perhaps, they have no idea the extent of cult-like followership they command, the millions of faithful that look upon their every move as the acceptable standard, for guidance and counselling and the responsibility attached to such Trust!
What manner of example are these people setting for Christ sake?!
Our Lord prayed for his murderer even in that hour of death, "Lord forgive them for they know not what they do."
Even though they are not obliged to attend the funeral, even though freedom of association or abstainance thereof is guaranteed in our law, Even if they believe TBJ is a demon from the pit of hell, atleast a common condolence to the wife and family the Deceased left behind would have gone a long way to lead them through to the right path and to show-case that example of LOVE which is the very essence of the Christian faith.

Apostle Johnson Suleiman spoke about the massacres in South Kaduna and was nearly kidnapped.
What did Nigerians asking for "men of God to speak" do? They laughed and supported El Rufai against him.
When APC called and sponsored publications against Oyedepo because of him calling out the regime, what did Nigerians do? They laughed at him.

Nigerians are hypocrites, unstable people. If the men of God speak, great. If they dont, great still. They have their reasons.

I agree 100%. Part of the reasons i resent nigerian churches is because I believe that the Church leaders (from Adeboye, Oyedepo, Oyakhilome, Bakare, Ashimolowo, Adeyemi, Enenche, etc) are deceitful; preaching messages they themselves do not conform to, in their individual lives. (like politicians).
Imagine that they couldn't even practice the greatest commandment of all which is Love towards their fellow colleague - not when he was alive nor in his death.
Omo i no do church again. As long as the Spirit resides in me, my church is in my heart and it goes with me everywhere. If 2 or 3 need to be gathered, my household is more than enough.

That's there problem

Fiscus105:


Most painful thing is that , they 3 men are the the archtech of church in form of business today, most especially Adeboye

Claiming holy holy when he had turn redeem to pure family business.

When people say this I laugh

I am a redeemer, pastors are mostly part time meaning they are encouraged to work not rely on members

The pastors are the ones majorly working with their own money in their parishes

RCCG is not a church where they raise seed and those sham, you only pay your tithe which is not forced and your offering except when their is building offering specifically to meet that demand

These are the same stuffs they use in running the church

No daddy kitchen, daddy this or that every Sunday

The things you see Adeboye with are basically private blessings given to him by members who take him as spiritual father and have gotten breakthrough in their lives

There all going to hell fire . Fake men of God

So you have to twist their arms to embrace someone they know nothing of his spiritual roots? Someone whose born-again experience is in doubt? A refurbished syncretist, false prophet who only became popular because of so called philantropy..
I don't blame OP, you don't read your Bible or you don't know his beginnings... I also blame the mainstream men of God for not living up to their name.
Imagine blackmailing Peter and Phillip to recognize Simon the sorcerer

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Mikecold:
Nobody would ask why T.B Joshua isolated himself from the fold of those men of God

If everyone is wrong only you is right what does that tell you

Even the preachers that are not in CAN and PFN how many did Joshua share bond with

I'm not speaking for the late Prophet, but just for the records; he did apply to join PFN when Oritsejafor was her President, but was turned down...
He did have associates among many Nigerian pastors like Iginla, Oyakhilome, etc

See who dey talk, all these babaláwo in suit called pastors.

These Pastors sowed divisions even among family members.

Mikecold:
When people say this I laugh

I am a redeemer, pastors are mostly part time meaning they are encouraged to work not rely on members

The pastors are the ones majorly working with their own money in their parishes

RCCG is not a church where they raise seed and those sham, you only pay your tithe which is not forced and your offering except when their is building offering specifically to meet that demand

These are the same stuffs they use in running the church

No daddy kitchen, daddy this or that every Sunday

The things you see Adeboye with are basically private blessings given to him by members who take him as spiritual father and have gotten breakthrough in their lives

Yes sir, I know more than this but decided to relunctant , anyway you might not know, but those members you are forcing to part with their money "unwillingly" are complaining "painfully"

Na by force to go burial

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As seen somewhere on cyberspace......

Agbaya!!!

Mikecold:
Yes pastor Chris oyakhilome own should send a signal

Everyone is quick to castigate but fail to remember Chris was his friend at one time and suddenly locked up later on

They didn't fight, they didn't have public issue yet Chris is not one of those in the camp of any G'O

He is on his own, could it be there is something they all see that we don't?

Apart from Okotie is there anyone openly castigating T.B Joshua, so why do some people think it's by force to be mixed with him or send him condolence just to make them happy, they are not in enemity with Joshua Na.

Can't people just stay on their own again

Amokachi was once his personal assistant why did amokachi not show up for his funeral?

[/b]Why did those old time people that started his ministry together with him not come to his funeral?[b]

Could it be they know how it all began behind scenes

Don't be carried away with the outward even the devil can translate into an angel of light

He had many early workers who said many things against him, could all of them be wrong, was he the only pastor that kept getting those controversies?

They say the big men of God were jealous of him, was just one church in ikotun enough to threaten ministers who already had congregation across the nation.

You are correct.I didn't see any of the previous wise men at the burial.

IgweOfNnewi:
When apostle sulaiman spoke against massacre of Christians at southern Kaduna that he was nearly kidnapped by DSS if not for Ayo Fayose that rescued him then and also pastor adeboye that spoke restructuring, what happened.

Are you saying that they are afraid of speaking because of DSS arrests?

Chiffy:
I agree 100%. Part of the reasons i resent nigerian churches is because I believe that the Church leaders (from Adeboye, Oyedepo, Oyakhilome, Bakare, Ashimolowo, Adeyemi, Enenche, etc) are deceitful; preaching messages they themselves do not conform to, in their individual lives. (like politicians).
Imagine that they couldn't even practice the greatest commandment of all which is Love towards their fellow colleague - not when he was alive nor in his death.
Omo i no do church again. As long as the Spirit resides in me, my church is in my heart and it goes with me everywhere. If 2 or 3 need to be gathered, my household is more than enough.

I don’t get... there are thousands of pastors in Nigeria.....many don’t relate with each other..it’s not becos of hatred...the church ministry is a large one....very body dey him lane..
So how is attending burial equal to showing love..??