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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 7:28am On Jul 16, 2021
benalvino2:


This girl supported Buhari not once but twice. You think of that each time you wonder why her judgment is full of shyt

Please keep quiet and stop misconstruing my post and filling it with your shameless lies.

I only supported Buhari in 2015 and never supported him again.

It is your judgement that is full of shyt which is why at your grown age you are not smart enough to realise that you are being lied to.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 7:31am On Jul 16, 2021
basilico:


The audit found illegal activities. Its up to the Maricopa board to explain the anomalies. That is if they don't find themselves behind bars.

If the courts had listened , it would never have come to this. The courts threw out every case without hearing any evidence, which has been brought to the light.
This is just a snippet . Im sure the breakdown of the final results will show how Joe was blatantly rigged in And as such should not be at the helm.

What illegal activities did they find and how did the so called activities delegitmise Biden's legitimate win.
The courts didn't see anything you don't know more than the courts or the persons empowered to work in the system stop lying to yourself why are you only after states Biden won why don't you call for a full audit of the whole 50 states let's know if you are sane and in support of election integrity.

Basilico shut your shameless mouth.Maricopa county and his board dominated by republiQans have all come out to say there was no evidence of fraud stop fighting a wrong fight that was concluded 8 months ago move on.

Biden didn't rig anything

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 7:33am On Jul 16, 2021
basilico:


The audit found illegal activities. Its up to the Maricopa board to explain the anomalies. That is if they don't find themselves behind bars.

If the courts had listened , it would never have come to this. The courts threw out every case without hearing any evidence, which has been brought to the light.
This is just a snippet . Im sure the breakdown of the final results will show how Joe was blatantly rigged in And as such should not be at the helm.

The lawyers messed up, no time, lack of evidence then and judges don't want to be in the middle of a serious matter like this.

Remember it took more than 2 months to reach this stage and with all the evidence they have we like to see what will follow.

Trump was investigated for 3 years with Russia election collusion and they found nothing. In this case they have found a lot. State legislators have to call each actor to explain all these anomalies

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 8:00am On Jul 16, 2021
The quote is from budaatum, even a brainless slug will not reason like this. GEJ corrupt but Nigeria was in shape, diversity in government and key positions not Islamabad. Our corrency was fluctuate between $150 to $119. Buhari came and not up to a year naira starts to die. See budaatum talking to madam AmazonTopaz



I rooted for buhari because Nigerians had to suffer some more in order to learn! Buhari called Nigerians "lazy fuqs", so I knew there was no way he was going to feed those who can not get off their lazy asses and feed themselves! Now they are wailing and that is their just dessert! The only good thing was getting rid of the mega incompetent and super corrupt GEJ regime. If GEJ had gotten a second term we would have had to bring back slavery and sell some people for foreign currency!

Next election will be between atiku and Tinubu, two thieves who only think about themselves, and one of them will win, and the sufferhead will continue because neither of them is a suitable president for Nigeria!

The bolded is why he supports buhari so Nigerians will suffer. That's just asinine, shameful thing to say.

The only good thing was to get rid of GEJ. You really have bad judgment. You are not very thoughtful

AmazonTopaz says this about losers
Don't mind the deluded dummies here.

Thank God the election is not being conducted in Nigeria and on Nairaland.These people supported GEJ for a second term he lost,they supported atiku he lost and they are now supporting Donald Trump who will still lose.

What a losing streak.I remember telling them here that atiku had no chance they kept arguing until I was proven right cheesy

You told budaatum this when you realise GEJ did not fail you as you were claiming prior.

My dear those ones nor concern the ordinary Nigerians,What matters to them was that A bag of rice was affordable then.Price of foodstuff was still affordable,relative security,less ethnic and religious tension.
Electricity was better even petrol prices was okay.
That is what matters to Nigerians when Buhari came it became worse.Under gej naira was never 1000 to a dollar and what makes you think looting is not going on now.

Jonathan was terrible but a 100% better than this regime.

But why did you dismiss atiku challenge of Buhari saying the same but embrace buhari when it's buhari vs GEJ?

You supported Buhari because GEJ failed, buhari was a dictator once, entered into power through a coup. Atiku was never a dictator, he is not dreaming of turning Nigeria into Muslim utopia but you didn't give him the same benefit of doubt you gave buhari over GEJ. You try. Nonsense naim all of una like.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 8:06am On Jul 16, 2021
Based on my last post. AmazonTopaz, between Atiku and Buhari who would you vote for?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:40am On Jul 16, 2021
benalvino2:


The lawyers messed up, no time, lack of evidence then and judges don't want to be in the middle of a serious matter like this.

Remember it took more than 2 months to reach this stage and with all the evidence they have we like to see what will follow.

Trump was investigated for 3 years with Russia election collusion and they found nothing. In this case they have found a lot. State legislators have to call each actor to explain all these anomalies

Those allegations are serious that warrant jail time. The msm will downplay,ignore it flat out lie because people like amazontopez will parrot their narrative.
There were thousands of affidavits and testimonies from observers who had seen fraud.
Some states sent a separate group of electors for Trump.The VP should have sent the competing electors back to the states to make a decision . He did not because of the Jan 6 capitol incident. Where they took off and resumed under cover of gunfire, teargas, nuclear bombs and hydrogen Bombs to proceed with the certification of the electors.
This was OK because judges had thrown out all import cases. I doubt any judge wanted BLM burning down their homes.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Lordmustikash: 9:18am On Jul 16, 2021
basilico:


Those allegations are serious that warrant jail time. The msm will downplay,ignore it flat out lie because people like amazontopez will parrot their narrative.
There were thousands of affidavits and testimonies from observers who had seen fraud.
Some states sent a separate group of electors for Trump.The VP should have sent the competing electors back to the states to make a decision . He did not because of the Jan 6 capitol incident. Where they took off and resumed under cover of gunfire, teargas, nuclear bombs and hydrogen Bombs to proceed with the certification of the electors.
This was OK because judges had thrown out all import cases. I doubt any judge wanted BLM burning down their homes.
Man, I love your devotion to the Republicans and Trump, heck, I love your crave for conspiracy theories and only promoting their deluded side of the story. But you know, deep down that they're all wrong and it's all BS because Biden won fair and square. Say, they take Arizona from him and give to Trump (hypothetically), won't Biden still be the president?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:32am On Jul 16, 2021
Lordmustikash:

Man, I love your devotion to the Republicans and Trump, heck, I love your crave for conspiracy theories and only promoting their deluded side of the story. But you know, deep down that they're all wrong and it's all BS because Biden won fair and square. Say, they take Arizona from him and give to Trump (hypothetically), won't Biden still be the president?

You have not been following. There is no mechanism to install Trump. Joe Biden is still the president .
However everybody knows that he is illegitimate and he should be ashamed if he has a soul.
There will be other states that will seek a forensic audit too, esp PA and Georgia .
If the three can prove fraud then Joe Biden loses 16 for Georgia, 11 Arizona and 20 for Pennsylvania , losing 47 giving him less than 270 needed to win. Thats uncharted territory with no way out.

Long and short Joe Biden is a fraud. Furthermore Joe Biden by estimates has less than the 81m touted , if he got an extra 107k in Arizona stolen votes , I would not be wrong to say he got less than 70m votes in total after all states uncover the most extensive fraud organization he built.

And democrats will take a generation to win again, they will lose the house too.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 9:43am On Jul 16, 2021
benalvino2:


This girl supported Buhari not once but twice. You think of that each time you wonder why her judgment is full of shyt

Of course, she supported Buhari. Partly, it was due to the peer pressure of her thought leaders on Nairaland. On the other hand, she was even at those times (don't know about now) still living off and with her parents.
If she paid bills herself, after the error of campaigning for Buhari in 2015, she wouldn't do same in 2019.

The irony of her supporting and cheering for a proven terroristic, nepotic despot in Nigeria which she lives in while thinking herself arbiter of good governance and socio-politics in America.

Heck! The phone she was even using in 2015 was bought for her by a Nairalander - one of the biggest romance scams on Nairaland when it all came out.

You should know the (Nairaland) antecedence of these pseudo-intellectuals you are debating with.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:53am On Jul 16, 2021
Its happening. Georgia wants an answer to anomalies raised over the elections in Fulton county.
Ruby Freeman , Tucker Carlson played a video of you and your cohorts retrieving ballots from under the table. After closing the counting for the night Ruby and 3 others continued counting , running ballots multiple times.
The governor Georgia, Zuckerberg gave you lots of cash For what?

Just learnt there is a lawsuit
DAUGHERTY V.
RAFFENSPERGER. KEEP AN EYE
ON THIS ONE. ACCORDING TO
GEORGIA LAW, YOU CANNOT
VOTE IN A RUNOFF IF YOU DID
NOT VOTE IN THE GENERAL
ELECTION OR WEREN'T ELIGIBLE
TO DO SO. UH OH….HTTPS://
/34W63XSYDL
— FULMINARE (@FULMINARE6)
MAY 10, 2021

Raffensperger is the Georgia Governor.
He is being represented by Perkins Coie, the law firm that paid for Cris Steele junk dossier on Muh-Russia,and the same firm whose honcho Mark Elias went around states advising them to change laws because of COVID-19. The laws that gave democrats the leeway to steal from Trump by mass mail in, no signatures, extended voting reception days etc .

These shenanigans will be exposed, the swamp will be taken down hopefully if there are indictments and plea deals by the foot soldiers. Dont steal an election and expect to get away with it forever.

Again Dominion is dead meat, no one will ever trust their machines. Germany said yesterday that they dont trust machines, pencil and paper is good enough.

https://m.dw.com/en/germany-fights-cyberattacks-and-fraud-claims-to-ensure-fair-election/a-58267635

Thiel was also keen to underline the fact that
Germany does not use voting machines, like
in the US. "We don't have a situation with
voting machines that we may know from the
US. The actual voting procedure at the polling
station is old school," said Thiel. "When I
explained to a senior official from the Interior
Ministry recently that it works with paper and
pencil, he said, 'that reassures me'."
"We have no voting machines — at the end of
the day, it's the ballot paper that gets
counted," he said. Thiel also went on to stress
that any citizen has the right to walk in and
watch the votes being counted

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 10:10am On Jul 16, 2021
DissTroy:


Of course, she supported Buhari. Partly, it was due to the peer pressure of her thought leaders on Nairaland. On the other hand, she was even at those times (don't know about now) still living off and with her parents.
If she paid bills herself, after the error of campaigning for Buhari in 2015, she wouldn't do same in 2019.

The irony of her supporting and cheering for a proven terroristic, nepotic despot in Nigeria which she lives in while thinking herself arbiter of good governance and socio-politics in America.

Heck! The phone she was even using in 2015 was bought for her by a Nairalander - one of the biggest romance scams on Nairaland when it all came out.

You should know the (Nairaland) antecedence of these pseudo-intellectuals you are debating with.

I don't understand how this people think.
She follow people here who thinks she is suffering because she is in Nigeria, she does not have sense because she haven't been on a plane, they can feed her whole family because she is in Nigeria, she cannot get a visa. She thinks they like her, all she has to do is start saying things they don't like and they will start telling her how poor and wretched she is.

They have called Ibime deplorable and right wing nuts for daring to think differently, recently she wants to tie down edi287 for saying what he sees. Cult is the only way to explain this.

We that they call cult and other names don't go about attacking and cursing people who disagrees with us.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 10:27am On Jul 16, 2021
basilico:


Hear say stories.

In the wake of the 2020 election, Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark
Milley apparently feared President Trump
would attempt a coup and compared
President Donald Trump and his supporters
to Adolf Hitler and Nazi brownshirts,
according to a new book.

Shut your dirty trap. Like all the fake conspiracy news you post here isn't hear say?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:31am On Jul 16, 2021
Obrigardo:


Shut your dirty trap. Like all the fake conspiracy news you post here isn't hear say?

You brains are too fried to understand this. Benalvino will.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/16/a-reminder-about-joint-chiefs-chairman-general-mark-milley-as-a-political-operative/


[b]
Remember, General Milley did
some really odd things as Joint
Chiefs Chairman under
President Trump:
(1) Milley never removed Lt. Col
Alexander Vindman from his
White House post after the
underling compromised his
leadership position. The
pentagon left Vindman on
assignment to the NSC even
after Vindman attempted to
take-down President Trump.
(2) Milley was then slow to
react to Navy Secretary Richard
Spencer threatening President
Trump; attempting to extort
him into inaction over the
disciplinary plans against the
SEAL commando, Chief Petty
Officer Edward Gallagher. And
perhaps worst of all…
(3) Joint Chief Chairman Milley,
and SoS Mike Pompeo traveled
to Mar-a-Lago in December
2019, where they informed
President Trump of military
strikes in Syria and Iraq * after *
they took place. [Background
Here] [Background Here].
President Trump made Esper,
Milley and Pompeo hold a press
conference without Trump
supporting them; then
President Trump remained
silent on the issue for days
[/b]

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 10:45am On Jul 16, 2021
Mr Arizona is going nuts up in here. You love to see it.

Thankfully this rubbish only shows up on his dark corner of the internet

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 10:55am On Jul 16, 2021
OH


MY


GOD..


Now I understand the actual coup was for Mike Pence to reject the certified results, which was highly unconstitutional and criminal. No wonder criminal trump haven't seen Pence eye to eye ever since.

Wow, this is disturbing..

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:57am On Jul 16, 2021
Ibime:
Mr Arizona is going nuts up in here. You love to see it.

Thankfully this rubbish only shows up on his dark corner of the internet

I have aggregated latest fraud news, that the media hide.
That's my corner .
Prove any sentence I put down here wrong.
Start with Joe Biden is a fraud hoisted on to people who never voted for him.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 10:57am On Jul 16, 2021
Ibime:
Mr Arizona is going nuts up in here. You love to see it.

Thankfully this rubbish only shows up on his dark corner of the internet

The guy is an idiot, even worse than the three monkeys, who closed their eyes, shut their ears, barricaded their mouth.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:00am On Jul 16, 2021
Obrigardo:
OH


MY


GOD..


Now I understand the actual coup was for Mike Pence to reject the certified results, which was highly unconstitutional and criminal. No wonder criminal trump haven't seen Pence eye to eye ever since.

Wow, this is disturbing..

As usual you are lying And lets take this one. question at a time.
Did some states legislatures send their own set of electors to the capitol on Jan 6 different from the Governor and Sos certified electors?

A simple yes or No.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 11:02am On Jul 16, 2021
I have a strong feeling this same maga world is going to eat criminal trump up when the dam breaks wide open and a lot more Americans now realise trump actually planned a coup. I predict one of his inner cult will put him down.
Just 7 months into Biden's 8 year presidency, how much hammering can they collect? To be honest, Bush and Obama never collected this kind of hammer months after they left. A bomb is about to blow up within criminal trumps circle and everyone can feel it.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 11:04am On Jul 16, 2021
basilico:


As usual you are lying And lets take this one. question at a time.
Did some states legislatures send their own set of electors to the capitol on Jan 6 different from the Governor and Sos certified electors?

A simple yes or No.

Do you even have a brain? How do illegal electors have any sway on what's been constitutional since your ancestors ever existed? Are you this dumb? Oh Lord, don't mention me again in any stupid question ever... angry
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:06am On Jul 16, 2021
Obrigardo:
I have a strong feeling this same maga world is going to eat criminal trump up when the dam breaks wide open and a lot more Americans now realise trump actually planned a coup. I predict one of his inner cult will put him down.
Just 7 months into Biden's 8 year presidency, how much hammering can they collect? To be honest, Bush and Obama never collected this kind of hammer months after they left. A bomb is about to blow up within criminal trumps circle and everyone can feel it.

Planned a coup? Several states sent a different set of electors.
In 2016 electors for Trump were 306 college votes. 2 refused to vote for him , he ended up with 304. Precedence set that electors can go rogue and vote against the wishes of the state that sent them. Right?

Oh my.. why am I telling you this?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 11:07am On Jul 16, 2021
basilico:

Prove any sentence I put down here wrong.

I would rather watch paint dry than entertain your election psychosis.

While Karen Fann and her fellow cultists were lying per minute in their hearing, Maricopa was fact checking them on Twitter

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1415834655752740865.html

https://mobile.twitter.com/maricopacounty?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Thankfully, their lies won't be carried into sane society, just in your dark corner of the internet

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:21am On Jul 16, 2021
Ibime:


I would rather watch paint dry than entertain your election psychosis.

While Karen Fann and her fellow cultists were lying per minute in their hearing, Maricopa was fact checking them on Twitter

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1415834655752740865.html

https://mobile.twitter.com/maricopacounty?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Thankfully, their lies won't be carried into sane society, just in your dark corner of the internet

Chain of custody missing. That tweet is just a yuuge lie. They should show the same in other counties. They dont.
They stole. Simple. PA, GA, WI, NH, next

These guys are going to jail , if they don't own up
They stole.
All those anomalies and yet no official results of the audit. Sweating idiots, the Arizona AG will nail them.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 11:22am On Jul 16, 2021
benalvino2:


I don't understand how this people think.
She follow people here who thinks she is suffering because she is in Nigeria, she does not have sense because she haven't been on a plane, they can feed her whole family because she is in Nigeria, she cannot get a visa. She thinks they like her, all she has to do is start saying things they don't like and they will start telling her how poor and wretched she is.

They have called Ibime deplorable and right wing nuts for daring to think differently, recently she wants to tie down edi287 for saying what he sees. Cult is the only way to explain this.

We that they call cult and other names don't go about attacking and cursing people who disagrees with us.


It's validation she seeks, and it is normal for her kind. There have to be followers for leaders to exist. You only truly realize what a beta is when you've seen alphas on the prowl.

The few times I've read her posts when any of you quote her, she's just regurgitating the talking points of particularly Baba60+ and the Eskimo. A mere soundboard. She'd denounce her parents in a heartbeat if she has to choose between being in their good books and standing up for her family.

She never has any original talking points. She presumably kicks against gun ownership and would tear at you or the other guys on the Right for defending it, but she's conspicuously absent when Baba60+ supports gun ownership. She dares not cross him or the Eskimo. Mostly Baba60+ who has proven to be an emotional nut job and the easiest to manipulate on this thread.

Everything she types or posts is strategically aligned to be in tandem with Pa Lookman's perspective, including his jaundiced view of all Nigerians as poor and wretched (even though his parents live here) while his hood is El Dorado (even though statistics and other evidence prove this is a lie).

These are the same set of persons who enable oppressors in power. They'd feed them lies, become soundboards of inanities, and allow themselves be walked over just to be in the good books of the oppressors.

The irony of them claiming for days on this thread that the opinions of Nigerians in Nigeria has no influence in the socio-polity of the U.S. (until I and a few persons countered it yesterday), yet they keep spending hours daily on Nairaland and social media debating these same issues.
Isn't that self-defeating? If you feel the opinions of over 130 million internet users in Nigeria (as at January 2021) do not matter why do you keep debating U.S. socio-politics daily on the biggest forum in Africa with the highest SEO ranking?

The megalomaniacs they support on this thread have repeatedly called ALL Nigerians resident in the country impoverished and in hellholes yet these sláves keep standing with them; they can't speak for themselves or even defend their own dignity.

You are nothing without self-respect! You are worth less than a grain of sand if you continually allow yourself to be spat at without fighting back, and worse still, rubbing the spit in your face and all over your body like lotion.

Reasons like this and persons like her are why I have stated I am not as invested in this thread as I probably should be. It's fun to knock sense into these ignorant folks at intervals nonetheless.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 11:33am On Jul 16, 2021
DissTroy:


It's validation she seeks, and it is normal for her kind. There have to be followers for leaders to exist. You only truly realize what a beta is when you've seen alphas on the prowl.

The few times I've read her posts when any of you quote her, she's just regurgitating the talking points of particularly Baba60+ and the Eskimo. A mere soundboard. She'd denounce her parents in a heartbeat if she has to choose between being in their good books and standing up for her family.

She never has any original talking points. She presumably kicks against gun ownership and would tear at you or the other guys on the Right for defending it, but she's conspicuously absent when Baba60+ supports gun ownership. She dares not cross him or the Eskimo. Mostly Baba60+ who has proven to be an emotional nut job and the easiest to manipulate on this thread.

Everything she types or posts is strategically aligned to be in tandem with Pa Lookman's perspective, including his jaundiced view of all Nigerians as poor and wretched (even though his parents live here) while his hood is El Dorado (even though statistics and other evidence prove this is a lie).

These are the same set of persons who enable oppressors in power. They'd feed them lies, become soundboards of inanities, and allow themselves be walked over just to be in the good books of the oppressors.

The irony of them claiming for days on this thread that the opinions of Nigerians in Nigeria has no influence in the socio-polity of the U.S. (until I and a few persons countered it yesterday), yet they keep spending hours daily on Nairaland and social media debating these same issues.
Isn't that self-defeating? If you feel the opinions of over 130 million internet users in Nigeria (as at January 2021) do not matter why do you keep debating U.S. socio-politics daily on the biggest forum in Africa with the highest SEO ranking?

The megalomaniacs they support on this thread have repeatedly called ALL Nigerians resident in the country impoverished and in hellholes yet these sláves keep standing with them; they can't speak for themselves or even defend their own dignity.

You are nothing without self-respect! You are worth less than a grain of sand if you continually allow yourself to be spat at without fighting back, and worse still, rubbing the spit in your face and all over your body like lotion.

Reasons like this and persons like her are why I have stated I am not as invested in this thread as I probably should be. It's fun to knock sense into these ignorant folks at intervals nonetheless.

I can't add anything to what you said as everything you said was 100% spot on. You will be shocked to see her post supporting buhari but I think her views about him has changed but anyone with brain should never vote a maniac who got into power through a coup, especially if he is a Muslim

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Lordmustikash: 11:58am On Jul 16, 2021
basilico:


Planned a coup? Several states sent a different set of electors.
In 2016 electors for Trump were 306 college votes. 2 refused to vote for him , he ended up with 304. Precedence set that electors can go rogue and vote against the wishes of the state that sent them. Right?

Oh my.. why am I telling you this?
Those electors were not the ones selected by each city councils, rather, GOP in some states and cities selected these electors. Come on man, let's not act like we were not here last year when these events were unfolding. Let's not act like Trump himself didn't praise those rioters at the Capitol, we all saw what happened on January the 6, if those electors weren't the ones sent by their states, they'd be major uproars across... besides, the MAGAs protesting would have definitely had something worthwhile to protest for.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 12:12pm On Jul 16, 2021
Lordmustikash:

Those electors were not the ones selected by each city councils, rather, GOP in some states and cities selected these electors. Come on man, let's not act like we were not here last year when these events were unfolding. Let's not act like Trump himself didn't praise those rioters at the Capitol, we all saw what happened on January the 6, if those electors weren't the ones sent by their states, they'd be major uproars across... besides, the MAGAs protesting would have definitely had something worthwhile to protest for.

Don't bother yourself, audits are their red herring they plan using to keep their supporters motivated for future election but then it's a double edged sword, it also motivates the opposition.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:15pm On Jul 16, 2021
Lordmustikash:

Those electors were not the ones selected by each city councils, rather, GOP in some states and cities selected these electors. Come on man, let's not act like we were not here last year when these events were unfolding. Let's not act like Trump himself didn't praise those rioters at the Capitol, we all saw what happened on January the 6, if those electors weren't the ones sent by their states, they'd be major uproars across... besides, the MAGAs protesting would have definitely had something worthwhile to protest for.
?

Electors.In 2016 2 went rogue. Trump got 304 instead of 306. Precedent set which some states said they should not go rogue.
There were 86 cases filed with clearly sure evidence of fuckery in the tallies. Governor's and SoS approved electors, but the state legislatures disagreed and sent their competing electors.
Uncharted territory, Im made to understand that Mike Pence should have allowed for debate by Congress/senate members who rose to oppose several state electors based on the competing ones. There should have been a two hour debate for each objection. 10 states that amounts to twenty hours and a decision on the state college votes per each delegation. The certification by law should have gone on till all issues were resolved by voting in the full house congress and senate.
If there was a stalemate, remember GoP still held the Senate then Pence should have sent the delegates back to the states for them to decide on whom to vote for
Failure to agree , then the house should have voted with each state entitled to one vote.

Correct me if I'm wrong and give your take. Factually without emotions
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:26pm On Jul 16, 2021
sanpipita:


Don't bother yourself, audits are their red herring they plan using to keep their supporters motivated for future election but then it's a double edged sword, it also motivates the opposition.

If there was fraud and the people demand an audit why not let it proceed.
Why go to court to block an audit
Why does media discredit the audit
How many cannot count, by saying they are Trump supporters does not diminish their counting skills. If say 2m was official tally but actual ballots are 1.9m who needs a Stanford degree to figure out the fuckery.
Why does DOJ want to insert themselves about violations and intimidations. Karen said one household had 26 mail in votes sent to them, should they not canvass, ask the residents like did you request 26 ballots. That to DOJ is intimidating voters . LMAO.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:35pm On Jul 16, 2021
These are the criminal grounds.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Lordmustikash: 12:50pm On Jul 16, 2021
basilico:
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Electors.In 2016 2 went rogue. Trump got 304 instead of 306. Precedent set which some states said they should not go rogue.
There were 86 cases filed with clearly sure evidence of fuckery in the tallies. Governor's and SoS approved electors, but the state legislatures disagreed and sent their competing electors.
Uncharted territory, Im made to understand that Mike Pence should have allowed for debate by Congress/senate members who rose to oppose several state electors based on the competing ones. There should have been a two hour debate for each objection. 10 states that amounts to twenty hours and a decision on the state college votes per each delegation. The certification by law should have gone on till all issues were resolved by voting in the full house congress and senate.
If there was a stalemate, remember GoP still held the Senate then Pence should have sent the delegates back to the states for them to decide on whom to vote for
Failure to agree , then the house should have voted with each state entitled to one vote.

Correct me if I'm wrong and give your take. Factually without emotions
True that this was still a Republican controlled senate, and Arizona and Georgia, the two key states that had issues are equally GOP controlled. If these GOP guys came out to say, "Look, we did a recount in some counties and did not find any evidence of rigging in the elections," Now why would there be a debate?
Then remember the disruption of the proceeding in the capitol, the violence and all shit show, I'm pretty darn sure Mitch McConnell didn't want the session to last longer than it did, besides those opposing senators were rightly shutdown.
Then there's the Pence letter to the Senate which had this excerpt,
"It is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the Constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not,"

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:53pm On Jul 16, 2021
Joke Biden introduces Germany's Chancellor, Merkel as the ''largest chancellor.....''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_ua8N1pf6o&list=WL&index=24
grin grin grin grin grin

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