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Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by Kobojunkie: 6:29pm On Jul 15, 2021
sonmvayina:
I have already created a thread...I will revive it..

There is nothing like Hebrew God. There is only one creator of all..heaven and earth. Just the name is different. Called Hashem by the jews, Chukwu by the igbos, Eledumare by the yorubas...etc..
Less talking, more substantiating please... undecided

I was not able to get a copy of the Omenala book. If you have a pdf copy, please share so we can be in sync here on this reveal of yours. undecided
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by Bishopkingsley(m): 6:45pm On Jul 15, 2021
sonmvayina:
You are trying so hard to hold on to a lie...it is not called "Go SPEL" for nothing. It is a spell.

The new covenant is God writting his laws in our heart. Nobody will go from door to door to teach you to obey them. It will become effortless..

Common the Isaiah 7: 14 is about an assurance for king Ahaz..The woman was already pregnant when Isaiah was prophesying..stop twisting it....

God's laws are truth, the way and the life....and light.
Ahaz woman was not a virgin when she gave birth this woman here is a virgin when she gave birth note the difference

I won't talk with you since you don't believe Bible

Bye
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:01pm On Jul 15, 2021
livingchrist:
you believe in your organisation why I believe in Jesus christ the son of God that is the major difference here, you seek to preach your organisation while I preach Jesus christ the saviour what were you expecting that light and darkness should agree? Certainly not!
I know the anger and hate you have against Christians and how you organisation has turned you through their doctrines to do satan's work in turning people from Jesus christ. One of your stand towards islam is that islam is not wrong but just the way people go about it, really? You think this way because you havent found the light still in darkness like your fellow religionists.
You can call yourself a Christian just as i would claim i'm Christian too, you can say i'm working for the devil just as i will also say that you're working for the devil.
But one thing is the difference:
I and all my fellow believers have the same line of thought because we're working and doing all adjustments needed with the written word called Bible {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} while you can't figure out why you and your fellow believers in your God can't agree on thoughts because you feel your God is unpredictable so His written words aren't that reliable since you're not sure of what He can do or cannot do! undecided

why were you arguing before?
God does not contradict himself only lack of understanding makes you think he did.
NO i wasn't arguing i'm only trying to reason with you but since you feel i'm in the darkness for trusting in God's written word and not ready to tolerate every wind of teaching! smiley
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by livingchrist(op): 8:25pm On Jul 15, 2021
sonmvayina:
When did the Creator ask anybody to believe in his son in the old testament?
The last time we met you ran away, The old testament prophesied about the new testament.

It is this new covenant that teaches explicitly faith in Jesus christ.

Jeremiah 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by livingchrist(op): 8:35pm On Jul 15, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
You can call yourself a Christian just as i would claim i'm Christian too, you can say i'm working for the devil just as i will also say that you're working for the devil.
But one thing is the difference:
I and all my fellow believers have the same line of thought because we're working and doing all adjustments needed with the written word called Bible {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} while you can't figure out why you and your fellow believers in your God can't agree on thoughts because you feel your God is unpredictable so His written words aren't that reliable since you're not sure of what He can do or cannot do! undecided


NO i wasn't arguing i'm only trying to reason with you but since you feel i'm in the darkness for trusting in God's written word and not ready to tolerate every wind of teaching! smiley
Is this not what I meant?
Man you serve your organisation while I serve Christ why are you wasting your time here
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by maximunimpact(m): 8:08am On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Continue lying to your own detriment! cheesy

Your competence in converting people could be noticed all over your posts. cheesy

Just stay away from me since you know that i belong to the darkness and of course light have nothing to do with darkness! cheesy

This is not a matter of drunkards and sinners Jesus always approach humble people so go out there and find those who will humbly accept your delusional Jesus, if you believe i'm of the darkness then you should have nothing to do with me.

So once again i beleive this should be the last time you and i will chat. After all you told the other guy to RUN AWAY FROM JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, so why not take to your own advice? cheesy
Here's one question for JWs

Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:04am On Jul 16, 2021
Hmmmmmmmmm "you're serving Christ"

Well that's exactly what i will also say about myself even though you misconstrued that i'm serving the group where all of us have the same line of thought! John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Thanks for sharing what you have in mind! smiley


livingchrist:
Is this not what I meant?
Man you serve your organisation while I serve Christ why are you wasting your time here
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:08am On Jul 16, 2021
maximunimpact:
Here's one question for JWs
Here's the answer for humble and sincere researchers!

MaxInDHouse:
"GENERATION"

"Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen" Matthew 24:34

From the above quotation we are concerned about the colored because it's what bothers all true servants of God right from the time of Abel until now. All the prophets except Jesus of Nazareth were anxious to see the end of this wicked system of things.
For instance Habakkuk in deep thoughts over all the atrocities committed under the sun said to JEHOVAH:

"Your eyes are too pure to look on what is evil, And you cannot tolerate wickedness. Why, then, do you tolerate the treacherous And keep silent when a wicked man swallows up someone more righteous than he is?" Habakkuk 1:13

So all true servants of God are yearning to see the end of all badness! Act 1:6

When his faithful Apostles approached him in private to ask him questions regarding this big issue {Matthew 24:1-3} Jesus explained that there will be a sign to know that the end is fast approaching. He mentioned so many things that makes them lost in thought {Matthew 24:4-42} though this faithful men also never understood everything Jesus said but they were willing to learn more from this wonderful counselor the world has ever known.

Now what exactly does he mean by the word "Generation" ?

After the false prophets various forms of religious sects emerged through the powerful signs displayed by these false prophets, again most people following them failed to ask
"why so much contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in the name of Jesus is Lord?" undecided
Because of the contradictions code of conduct for those claiming worshipers of the same God will not be specific which will give birth to LAWLESSNESS and the result is many will begin to ignore organized worship since it's of no real benefits! Matthew 24:12
What will Jesus' real followers be doing during this period?
Will they also engage in performing signs to woo worshipers to the truth?
Remember there will be lots and lots of testimonies about how many people got solution to their immediate problems through the signs performed by various religious sects.

NO! Jesus said his own true followers will not be carried away by the false prophets and their worthless signs, rather Jesus' true followers will continue to endure all what this is causing until the end {Matthew 24:13} Jesus emphasized that his own TRUE followers will stand immovable no matter what happens! Luke 21:28

So what will they be doing during all these period? Well people from the North to the South, from the East to the West will recognize Jesus' true followers as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all the corners of the earth, discussing with their neighbours about the coming Kingdom of our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus! Matthew 24:14

That is what many critics misconstrued as false prophecies as Jehovah's Witnesses kept proclaiming the coming of God's Kingdom:

First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.” 2Peter 3:3-4

So if some people have loaded your heart's with bitter strife against God's servants proclaiming the end of this system of things be rest assured that THE GENERATION SEEING ALL THESE THINGS WILL NOT PASS AWAY for all these recorded events to become mere stories for another generation to write stories about all the things we're experiencing now!

The generation that saw the beginning of this events in 1914 may surely pass away, the generation that experienced the mid event may pass away but these composite sign of the endtime which Our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus talked about will never end when God's Kingdom strikes! Luke 21:33

Therefore if you're part of the generation that is witnessing this events whether you knew it's beginning in 1914, or born in the middle of the troubles or just born now that God's people has stopped going to visit their neighbors which started in 1919 ~ 2019 due to Covid19 I am using this medium to say you're welcome to the LAST OF THE LAST DAYS in fact THE LAST HOUR!
God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by maximunimpact(m): 10:36am On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Here's the answer for humble and sincere researchers!
Lols...

I don't see you mentioning 1914 and Armaggedon in the gibberish you copied and pasted from watchtower above.

Watchtower claimed 1914 was the year Jesus became king in heaven and then cast out Satan to earth, JWs called it Christ's invisible presence.

Watchtower also said the generation that witnessed 1914 will not pass away until Armaggedon.

So the simple question is how long is a generation?

Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m):
Continue boiling up and down the whole forum, whether you like it or not JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES will continue chatting with your friends who are willing to listen!
wink
maximunimpact:
Lols...

I don't see you mentioning 1914 and Armaggedon in the gibberish you copied and pasted from watchtower above.

Watchtower claimed 1914 was the year Jesus became king in heaven and then cast out Satan to earth, JWs called it Christ's invisible presence.

Watchtower also said the generation that witnessed 1914 will not pass away until Armaggedon.

So the simple question is how long is a generation?
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by maximunimpact(m): 3:00pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Continue boiling up and down the whole forum, whether you like it or not JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES will continue chatting with your friends who are willing to listen!
wink
I am not a religious fanatic and so matters of faith can never get me emotional.

But an obvious lie carried as truth is complete bulshit.

So I ask again: how long is a generation?

Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:04pm On Jul 16, 2021
Keep asking! Matthew 7:7 grin
maximunimpact:
I am not a religious fanatic and so matters of faith can never get me emotional.

But an obvious lie carried as truth is complete bulshit.

So I ask again: how long is a generation?
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by maximunimpact(m): 3:05pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Keep asking! Matthew 7:7 grin
Sure I will just to constantly put it in your face that your organisation lied

Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:08pm On Jul 16, 2021
Your PERSONAL opinion! wink
maximunimpact:
Sure I will just to constantly put it in your face that your organisation lied
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by maximunimpact(m): 3:15pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Your PERSONAL opinion! wink
I wasn't the one who created a religion around 1914, its your governing body who did so it's your business and not my opinion.

If the question is about trinity and hellfire you guys with charge with uncountable bible verses like a he goat on drugs.

How long is a generationhuh??

Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:20pm On Jul 16, 2021
Keep asking! Matthew 7:7 grin
maximunimpact:
I wasn't the one who created a religion around 1914, its your governing body who did so it's your business and not my opinion.

If the question is about trinity and hellfire you guys with charge with uncountable bible verses like a he goat on drugs.

How long is a generationhuh??
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by Janosky: 5:33pm On Jul 16, 2021
maximunimpact:
I wasn't the one who created a religion around 1914, its your governing body who did so it's your business and not my opinion.

If the question is about trinity and hellfire you guys with charge with uncountable bible verses like a he goat on drugs.

How long is a generationhuh??
This GENERATION of Jesus days within 80 years period, saw the destruction of Jerusalem in fulfilment of Matthew 24:3-14.
Did This GENERATION of Jesus days see the fulfilment of everything in Matthew 24:3-14,30-34?
No, is the answer.
Maximumimpact has been dodging this question ever since grin grin
[/b]
"This GENERATION who overlap 1914 are still alive, & every generation born since 1914,are seeing the fulfilment of Matthew 24:3-14,30-34, plus in the entire holy Bible

Maximumimpact, you are using a FALSE, misleading argument to claim that Matthew 24:3-14,30-39 will not fulfill again in this present time.
Maximumimpact WAYO argument grin cheesy
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by Tolams16(m):
Vjoouh
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by maximunimpact(m): 8:05pm On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:
This GENERATION of Jesus days within 80 years period, saw the destruction of Jerusalem in fulfilment of Matthew 24:3-14.
Did This GENERATION of Jesus days see the fulfilment of everything in Matthew 24:3-14,30-34?
No, is the answer.
Maximumimpact has been dodging this question ever since grin grin
[/b]
"This GENERATION who overlap 1914 are still alive, & every generation born since 1914,are seeing the fulfilment of Matthew 24:3-14,30-34, plus in the entire holy Bible

Maximumimpact, you are using a FALSE, misleading argument to claim that Matthew 24:3-14,30-39 will not fulfill again in this present time.
Maximumimpact WAYO argument grin cheesy
I never agreed or disagreed that 1914 generation is still alive or not, let's just say they are still alive just for the benefit of the doubt.

The question is how long is a generation?

Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by Barristter07: 8:36pm On Jul 16, 2021
livingchrist:
According to Jehovah witnesses, when Jesus died he did not resurrect as a human being again but he resurrected as a Angel Michael.

Is this claim true, well according to the bible it Jesus died and resurrected, no he was not a spirit he resurrected but he resurrected as a man.


Again there are some who believes Jesus was only a man on earth but after he died and resurrected and became God again.

First of all, Jesus was God when he became man he didnt cease from being God, rather he add humanity to his divine nature, his God nature was not reduced or modified, it remained the same as it was from eternity.

As a result of this Jesus could exhibit 100 percent character of God and 100 percent character of man.
As a man Jesus could be hungry, feel sleepy, grow in knowledge, limited in knowledge, do everything a human can do except Sinning because Jesus was a perfect man without sin nature and he remained so by his will.
When Jesus died it was his humanity that died when Jesus rose, he also rose as the God-man although death did not affect his divine nature only his earth body.

Jesus was resurrected with a far better human body, his human nature was glorified, his glorified human nature is the archetype of what will happen to we Christians on the resurrection morning, as Christians our hope lies in the resurrection not in death, although when we die we rest from our labours but we will have a full experience of the wonderful plentiful glory of God on the resurrection, infact when we die we be with christ but we are kept until the day of resurrection.

The resurrection is wonderful, our redeemed soul, renewed spirit and glorified body come together in perfect harmony and agreement,
so that we could experience God's glory in its fullnesd as the man God created in his image.

presently we are in a pitiful state, our soul is yearning for the redemption of our body, our body and spirit often are in disagreement, our body is weak and dying, hence we only experience just a minute spec of life, even life on earth is dented and full of evil, hence be with the Lord is far better.

Jesus was the first fruit of our resurrection, in order words Jesus is our future, hence care must be taken to preserve the integrity of his resurrection. He didnt resurrect as a spirit, his resurrection did not alter Jesus human personality, after his resurrection mary was still able to recognise him when he spoke to her, Jesus is not a stranger he is our brother because he possesses same nature with us.
Galatians 1:1 NIV
" Paul, an apostle— sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead'

Is the ressurected Jesus , who appointed Paul, a man?
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by livingchrist(op): 9:07pm On Jul 16, 2021
Barristter07:
Galatians 1:1 NIV
" Paul, an apostle— sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead'

Is the ressurected Jesus , who appointed Paul, a man?
The resurrected Jesus is a man.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by Barristter07: 9:13pm On Jul 16, 2021
livingchrist:
The resurrected Jesus is a man.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Verse 6 " who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time "

This verse describes the Man Christ Jesus who sacrifice himself for man's sins. Yes Jesus is an human as at when the RANSOM was paid.


Back to Galatians , Is it a Man that appoint Paul ?
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by livingchrist(op): 9:51pm On Jul 16, 2021
Barristter07:
Verse 6 " who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time "

This verse describes the Man Christ Jesus who sacrifice himself for man's sins. Yes Jesus is an human as at when the RANSOM was paid.


Back to Galatians , Is it a Man that appoint Paul ?
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Here lies your answer, present tense was used.
There "is one God and one mediator between God and man".

He only describe who Jesus is, which is a man, the one who offered himself.
Secondly, Jesus wouldnt have called humans his brothers if he was not a human.

Matthew 28:10
Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.

In galatians of course Jesus was not just a mere man he is also God so what paul meant was that his calling was initiated by human. Paul was emphasizing on Jesus Godhood not his humanity.
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by Barristter07: 9:59pm On Jul 16, 2021
livingchrist:
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Here lies your answer, present tense was used.
There "is one God and one mediator between God and man".

He only describe who Jesus is, which is a man, the one who offered himself.
Secondly, Jesus wouldnt have called humans his brothers if he was not a human.

Matthew 28:10
Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
I expected your response to that Galatians.

Firstly have explained that Paul was reffering to Jesus days on Earth. To burst you : The same Greek word that Paul used for Men of Flesh and blood was used for Jesus . Do you admit Jesus is still Flesh and blood too ? Or Paul was reffering to his days on Earth ?
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by livingchrist(op): 10:06pm On Jul 16, 2021
Barristter07:
I expected your response to that Galatians.

Firstly have explained that Paul was reffering to Jesus days on Earth. To burst you : The same Greek word that Paul used for Men of Flesh and blood was used for Jesus . Do you admit Jesus is still Flesh and blood too ? Or Paul was reffering to his days on Earth ?
"There is one God and one mediator" is a present tense.

"The man Christ Jesus" not "Jesus christ who was a man"

Angels were described with the same word used to describe flesh and blood does it mean they have flesh and blood?
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by Janosky: 10:16pm On Jul 16, 2021
maximunimpact:
I never agreed or disagreed that 1914 generation is still alive or not, let's just say they are still alive just for the benefit of the doubt.

The question is how long is a generation?
The biblical concept of Generation is not exactly of the same contemporary meaning Maximumimpact attached to it.
A Generation usually refers to the time span of 25-35 years, but in biblical terms, GENERATION is more than that (see Gotquestions , your Trinity mentors Screenshots).

THIS GENERATION will not pass away until all these things have happened, Jesus said.

Matthew 24:44
" You ([b]THIS GENERATION
) also must be ready all the time, for the Son of Man will come when least expected."
[/b]

Bros, how long is THIS GENERATION that must be ready all the for the coming of the Son of man when least expected"?

Bros, do you now understand that Jesus Christ is referenced THIS GENERATION as futuristic one?
You can check again, the questions 1 to 6, I asked you about Matthew 24:3-14,30-34...

grin

Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:56pm On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:
The biblical concept of Generation is not exactly of the same contemporary meaning Maximumimpact attached to it.
A Generation usually refers to the time span of 25-35 years, but in biblical terms, GENERATION is more than that (see Gotquestions , your Trinity mentors Screenshots).

THIS GENERATION will not pass away until all these things have happened, Jesus said.

Matthew 24:44
" You ([b]THIS GENERATION
) also must be ready all the time, for the Son of Man will come when least expected."
[/b]

Bros, how long is THIS GENERATION that must be ready all the for the coming of the Son of man when least expected"?

Bros, do you now understand that Jesus Christ is referenced THIS GENERATION as futuristic one?
You can check again, the questions 1 to 6, I asked you about Matthew 24:3-14,30-34...

grin
You want to use Trinity people definition of generation to define your own blunder of 1914
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by maximunimpact(m): 11:20pm On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:
The biblical concept of Generation is not exactly of the same contemporary meaning Maximumimpact attached to it.
A Generation usually refers to the time span of 25-35 years, but in biblical terms, GENERATION is more than that (see Gotquestions , your Trinity mentors Screenshots).

THIS GENERATION will not pass away until all these things have happened, Jesus said.

Matthew 24:44
" You ([b]THIS GENERATION
) also must be ready all the time, for the Son of Man will come when least expected."
[/b]

Bros, how long is THIS GENERATION that must be ready all the for the coming of the Son of man when least expected"?

Bros, do you now understand that Jesus Christ is referenced THIS GENERATION as futuristic one?
You can check again, the questions 1 to 6, I asked you about Matthew 24:3-14,30-34...

grin
Gibberish as always

JWs always like using dictionary to define terms when teaching "bible students", but when they get caught in a lie words automatically manufacture two meanings, 1) Bible meaning and 2) Dictionary meaning, Lols

There's no way to doge this one okay....

How long is a generation?
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by Janosky: 11:25pm On Jul 16, 2021
maximunimpact:
Gibberish as always

JWs always like using dictionary to define terms when teaching "bible students", but when they get caught in a lie words automatically manufacture two meanings, 1) Bible meaning and 2) Dictionary meaning, Lols

There's no way to doge this one okay....

How long is a generation?
JWs have responded to your questions with biblical proofs.
Particularly, the context of Matthew 24:30-34, proven that THIS GENERATION spoken of by Jesus Christ is futuristic one.

The same thing your Trinity mentors, [b]Gotquestions
have proven to be scriptural fact .
Bros, deal with the bitter truth. [/b]
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by maximunimpact(m): 11:27pm On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:
The same thing your Trinity mentors, Gotquestions have proven to be scriptural fact .
Bros, deal with the bitter truth.
Kindly note that i am not a trinity believer neither do i care if God is 1, 2 or3. He remains God regardless of what anyone chose to believe.

Watchtower claimed 1914 was the year Jesus became king in heaven and then cast out Satan to earth, JWs called it Christ's invisible presence.

Watchtower also said the generation that witnessed 1914 will not pass away until Armaggedon.

So the simple question is how long is a generation?

Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by Janosky: 11:33pm On Jul 16, 2021
maximunimpact:
Kindly note that i am not a trinity believer neither do i care if God is 1, 2 or3. He remains God regardless of what anyone chose to believe.

Watchtower claimed 1914 was the year Jesus became king in heaven and then cast out Satan to earth, JWs called it Christ's invisible presence.

Watchtower also said the generation that witnessed 1914 will not pass away until Armaggedon.

So the simple question is how long is a generation?
THIS GENERATION will not pass away until the fulfilment of Matthew 24:44.
When all these things prophecied have happened.
grin grin
Re: Did Jesus Resurrect As A Spirit? by maximunimpact(m): 11:37pm On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:
THIS GENERATION will not pass away and until the fulfilment of Matthew 24:44.
When all these things prophecied have happened.
grin grin
Watchtower specifically said the generation that saw 1914 will not pass away until Armageddon happens.

Stop dodging the question, it's a reminder of how you have been mislead
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