royal231:


If you go all round even down to Cameroon they all did bronze artifacts..

So we're all artworks looted by the whites? Where are the art works from itsekiri.. Uhrobo.. Ijaws.. And other tribes around Benin..

And Benin always had their own share because you give what belongs to ceaser to ceaser..


Yes they can still do it till now because the fame it generated.. People will always come to Benin for the bronze.. Irrespective of if the looted artifacts were returned or not..

Cheers.. But its better of under the Government.. In the sense that it should be in a place accessible to everyone..

But the royal family will have to see its daily maintenance and so..

So I think it shouldn't be inside the Palace.. Because if u put it inside Palace it will be there for just the royal family and most of his psychophants..

But if its public.. Everyone will start knowing the truth about our country.. And it's history's..


Secondly those artifacts were looted due to a reason.. If that same thing repeats you know say na Nigerian soilders go enter this time..

Aboki no send.. So its better the royal family work out something with state govt and leave federal govt out

khadaffi:


Those bronze are the personal property of the Omo n' oba. They were never for the Edo people. The bronze were stolen from the palace and it should be returned there. Whatever the oba decides to do with it is his business. Obaseki actually intends to convert it to his personal property. Please get the full details before commenting next time.

Juliusmalema:
Lai mohammed should return the facts or artefacts to obaseki

Mangekyo:
Obaseki Vs Oba Of Benin: FG Reveals Who Will Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze



Source; https://dailypost.ng/2021/07/17/obaseki-vs-oba-of-benin-fg-reveals-who-will-take-possession-of-looted-benin-bronzes/

Afam4eva:
I really don't understand why people are sentimental and bias about this issue.

It makes more sense for the Edo state Government to keep it since where the bronzes were taken are now under their jurisdiction.

The reason it should not be handed over to the Oba of Benin is because the traditional system has no recognized role under the constitution and there are no checks and balances to check the excesses of the traditional body. For instance, what stops the present Oba from keeping those bronzes as his personal property if handed over to him.

smile11s:
The real and original owners are Igbo People.

The ancestors that made these bronze artifacts were the same people that made the ones in Egypt. And these ancestors were Igbo. Return it back to the original owners. The Igbo People

generalwo:
..... U no read am say them wan build traditional museums inside the palace abi? Abi the oba go carry that one go too? Obaseki is the governor of Edo state not the governor or Benin City..... The traditional leader of Benin city is the rightful person to keep hold of those items because they are proprietary to the Benin customs and traditions....... They are killing people everyday in Benin auchi road..... He should concern himself with that and leave traditional issues to the palace to handle

royal231:
Like days of old Benin was seat of Govt.. Today seat of govt is in Abuja..

Most of those Benin bronzes were not manufactured in Benin but were brought by other tribes..


I rest

generalwo:
..... Talk what you know..... Go to igun street in Benin metropolis and see what people do with their hands..... The bronze images were made by the Benins....... Una go dey always type without facts........ Which tribe bring them come Benin and them nor know the tribe know bronze images for the whole Nigeria..... The Benins are one of the first names that comes to mind when bronze images are mentioned!

UGBE634:
Are actually the first name, the Benins are synonymous with Bronze casting. Festac 77 na person for Benin run am Igun precisely. they have forgotten these history so soon and seem to downplay the influence of Benin when it comes to these things

Mangekyo:
Obaseki Vs Oba Of Benin: FG Reveals Who Will Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze

DAILY POST reports that while Obaseki showed preference for a private trust to take custody and manage the artefacts, the Oba wanted the artefacts stolen from Benin Palace in 1987 to be returned to a museum to be built within the Palace premises.


Source; https://dailypost.ng/2021/07/17/obaseki-vs-oba-of-benin-fg-reveals-who-will-take-possession-of-looted-benin-bronzes/

rastaLivity:
In this moment, the only oba i know is in anambra state

Mikecold:
Obaseki you see yourself

You knew this government doesn't fancy you to start with, you now gave them a perfect excuse

Below is how it has been done even before you became governor

Bundaweber:



Please stop to dey show your ignorance for public forum. It is this present oba that has been fighting for the return of this artifacts for years. Even his grandfather fought for the return before he joined his ancestors.
The pyramid of Egypt is serving the whole of Egypt because the current Egypt is the successor of the Egyptian monarchy. As we speak there is no pharaoh existing

Bundaweber:



Yes. If the state needs to generate revenue the moat, the walls, the various shrines are there

Judolisco:
and as we speak the people are in charge of Edo State and can even take the oba to court... What ignorance have I shown please? Is the oba the one in charge of Benin or the state government ? Or you don't know the oba is jst a ceremonial king under the local government and can only appeal and not make commands... The same artefacts have been generating revenue for the whites over the years... He reach una side you people dey shout make dem Carry am go Palace... As d artefacts no dey Palace for the past 100yrs anything happen?

Lescalier:
This simply means both the palace and the State govt will make individual proposals to the FG and the FG will decide what to do to the artifacts.

The State government has a better plan for the artifacts with the Edo Museum for West African Arts.

I bet even some other States, especially the Lagos museum, will benefit and have a share from the almost 2,000 pieces.

royal231:
Like days of old Benin was seat of Govt.. Today seat of govt is in Abuja..

Most of those Benin bronzes were not manufactured in Benin but were brought by other tribes..


I rest

Afam4eva:
I really don't understand why people are sentimental and bias about this issue.

It makes more sense for the Edo state Government to keep it since where the bronzes were taken are now under their jurisdiction.

The reason it should not be handed over to the Oba of Benin is because the traditional system has no recognized role under the constitution and there are no checks and balances to check the excesses of the traditional body. For instance, what stops the present Oba from keeping those bronzes as his personal property if handed over to him.

CSTRR:
To be fair, I think the obaseki idea would have been the best.

He wanted to create a museum to display these beautiful arts to generate revenue for the state.

The oba wanted it in his palace where it would be probably be under restrictions, and all revenues will go to him alone.

Lai Muhammed will probably put it in his office, because I don't know if there is any federal museum in place.

nextstep:
The artifacts belong to the sovereign in the land, which is currently the Federal Government.

Yes, they were taken from Benin Kingdom, but that kingdom has long ceased to be sovereign, and so it falls to FG to own these artifacts.

If Benin wants to collect, it should become its own kingdom again, independent from Nigeria.

As for the state of Edo, it has no say in the matter.

Emilokoiyawon:
The Oba of Bini village must not allow Obaseki touch those Yoruba artefacts.

Judolisco:
bros the pharaohs that built pyramids for themselves and kept a lot of treasures in it... all d pharaohs are now dead... Do you know how much those pyramid have generated for the people of Egypt Make una dey think of future if una Wan do something... A museum will fetch money for d state... Can u visit d Palace anytime u like?

Afam4eva:
I [s]really don't understand why people are sentimental and bias about this issue.

It makes more sense for the Edo state Government to keep it since where the bronzes were taken are now under their jurisdiction.

The reason it should not be handed over to the Oba of Benin is because the traditional system has no recognized role under the constitution and there are no checks and balances to check the excesses of the traditional body. For instance, what stops the present Oba from keeping those bronzes as his personal property if handed over to him.[/s]

Frankiss44:


Obaseki never intended to convert anything for his personal property.. He has always maintained that the state will build a standard museum and these things coupled with other state art will be put there to generate IGR for the state..

Afam4eva:
I really don't understand why people are sentimental and bias about this issue.

It makes more sense for the Edo state Government to keep it since where the bronzes were taken are now under their jurisdiction.

The reason it should not be handed over to the Oba of Benin is because the traditional system has no recognized role under the constitution and there are no checks and balances to check the excesses of the traditional body. For instance, what stops the present Oba from keeping those bronzes as his personal property if handed over to him.

chris51:



But they were stolen from the king's palace.

CSTRR:

Does the Federal govt have the right to take your money in the bank at any time?