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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Goodvibes007: 6:26pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
EnlightenedUFO:Why even bother? The anger about CRT is simply what you called it, Faux outrage. The far right would always look for a boogie man to latch unto. Combine that with a largely uneducated support base then you have all sort of nonsense and jargons to get them riled up. It was 5G yesterday, Bill Gates and Soros the week before. It's CRT today. Lol. A long read below but very worth it:
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/07/02/why-are-states-banning-critical-race-theory/ 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:32pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
DissTroy: No it is not based on the premises nor postulate what you claim! And its rather absurd to be claimimg CRT proponents will agree that one is an addict or a thief because of discrimination one experienced due to race. Unless race is the reason one is an addict or a thief of course. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Livelystone01: 6:34pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
benalvino3:The truth is, no group will ever want to help another in this life if they won't gain anything at the end of the day. Me I haven't said anything about the CRT because I have not fully grasped it. In short, I have never focused on it. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 6:36pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
benalvino3: Was the problem him liking agbada or that the same agbada used to be a thing of mockery and harassment to minorities who wore it previously. Everything isn't white or black, many minorities suffer, look at this Hispanics in USA are actually afraid to speak their own language they get threats and shut down now when they start culture appropriation you will say they are bitter people https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44201444 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:03pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Livelystone01: Don't see it as group, see it as individuals. And there are people who risk their lives or make huge donation for others yet remain anonymous so it does not remove attention from the ones in need. In CRT, it focus more on the systemic structure of the society and also race is a social construct which means racism is a matter of oppressors and the oppressed. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 7:09pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
budaatum:No, it's not about the CRT proponents but the theory itself. Insisting that everything the black person faces, or deals with or has to do has to be viewed through a racial in decking the black person in an apparel of victimhood. Damn it! There were those who paint a racial colouration with Ghana losing the 2010 WC Quarter-Final to Uruguay. CRT is very divisive. Yes, racism would always exist just like all forms of prejudice would never truly end, but everything doesn't have to be racially motivated. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:10pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
sanpipita: I don't know of any white man who wore agbada to oppress blacks. I really don't know where you are getting at. Hispanics being stopped for speaking Spanish does not have anything to do with cultural appropriation. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:13pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
DissTroy: Its funny how they complained that Italian team that won the euro 2020 was too white. Nobody is complaining that Nigerian team is too black They just look for a problem all the time and most time it is about race. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:22pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
@benalvino2, disstroy, basilico, lets continue.. 5) Jim Crow was accepted . Voting rights, citizenship and property ownership for African Americans came during post-war Reconstruction, which later saw Black Southerners ascend to political power -- but it didn't last. Twelve years after the Civil War, Jim Crow -- an evolution of slave codes and Black codes -- took hold, ushering in a series of laws and societal norms that would prove ruinous to the newly freed Americans. As clergy, journalists, politicians and scientists reinforced the abhorrent notions of White supremacy, Jim Crow laws provided the backbone of America's racial caste system, which the Supreme Court upheld in 1896. It would remain the law of the land for about seven more decades. States enacted segregation laws, separating public services and spaces along racial lines or barring African Americans outright, while the Jim Crow era's etiquette rules governed everything from how Black people showed affection to each other to how they addressed White people. The price for defiance? Usually beatings or lynchings. Recommended reading: "Plessy v. Ferguson: Who Was Plessy?", "Jim Crow Guide: The Way It Was" and "Daily Life in the Jim Crow South, 1900-1945" Black passengers wait on a bus in 1940 in Durham, North Carolina 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:25pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
6) Lynching was tolerated Laws prohibited the arbitrary or extrajudicial killing of Black people, but more important than what was codified during Jim Crow is what was not codified. When an anti-lynching bill was introduced in Congress in 1918, it took years to pass the House before hitting a Senate roadblock. Southern lawmakers baselessly claimed Black men were lynched for raping White women -- a phantasm that still haunts Black men -- and asserted laws governing lynchings were best left to the states. Researchers have found evidence of thousands of lynchings -- and they're sure they're undercounting. While many associate lynchings with hangings, historians say numerous mass killings fit the definition -- from the political violence in New Orleans in 1866, Colfax, Louisiana, in 1873, and Wilmington, North Carolina, in 1898, to massacres in Atlanta (1906), Springfield, Illinois, (1908) East St. Louis, Illinois, (1917) Tulsa, Oklahoma, (1921) and Rosewood, Florida (1923), to name a few. Congress has never passed an anti-lynching law. A bill named for Emmett Till passed the House last year by a 410-4 vote, but was held up in the Senate by a lone lawmaker who called it overly broad. Recommended reading: United States v. Cruikshank, "The Charleston Massacre and the Rape Myth of Reconstruction" and CNN's report on America's long legacy of lynching 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:29pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
7) Immigration was biased White supremacy was clearly at the heart of early immigration laws. The 1790 Naturalization Act said only "a free white person" need apply. In the mid- to late 1800s, as German, Irish and Chinese immigrants began to arrive on American shores, Asian immigrants were singled out in the Page Act of 1875 and later the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882. Immigration officials were particularly hard on Asian women, who were maligned as disease-ridden and promiscuous and subjected to humiliating interrogations and physical exams. Beginning in 1929, California and other states deported about 2 million people of Mexican ancestry, more than half of whom had been born in the United States (about 400,000 in California alone were citizens or legal residents). In the 1950s, Operation Wetback (yes, the actual name) resulted in hundreds of thousands of deportations to Mexico, though the exact number is disputed. While immigration policies are fairer today, at least one successful presidential candidate resurrected specters of America's dark past, praising Operation Wetback, attacking Dreamers, using bigoted terms for Covid-19 and allegedly bashing immigrants from "s**thole countries, including Haiti and some African nations. Recommended reading: "History of Angel Island Immigration Station," a report on the lost history of Mexican "repatriation" and "The Chinese Must Go!" Immigration officials examine Japanese immigrants in 1931 aboard a ship on Angel Island, California. 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln2: 7:31pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
EnlightenedUFO:Nothing you can say to get those self hating Coons to see the right thing. Anything good for african Americans is bad for them because they love their white masters in Appalachia. They hate CRT but the same Nazi loving Coons will not tell the Jews to forget the horrors unleashed on them by Hitler and his henchmen. Ask these Nazi lovers one thing they despise about the Nazis and Klans in America. They will not criticize the Nazis and Klans but they will call Black Americans all kind of ugly names in the book and 99% of Blacks that i know in America are doing much better than these hungry loudmouths. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 7:34pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
benalvino3:Or the French team is too black. They said the french team was an African team and France couldn't have done it without Africans. Italy listened and played with an all-white team yet they yelled. Miss USA and Miss England can be black but the times when Miss South Africa was white, all hell was let lose. It's alright for black comedians to make fun of white skin colour or them being hippies and trailer-dwelling trash but if a white person dares, he's canceled. Do they want me to show them video and stand-up comedy clips of black comedians calling Obama a 'mixed race fool' when he declared he wanted to be POTUS but when he won he was black? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:34pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
8- Education was curtailed Slavery brought with it anti-literacy laws, which states continued to pass and enforce until the mid-1800s. The aversion to educating African Americans wasn't limited to the South. See the stories of a rejected proposal for a college in New Haven, Connecticut, a mob's destruction of the Noyes Academy in Canaan, New Hampshire, or the attack on a school for "young ladies of color" in Canterbury, Connecticut. Post-slavery, segregation ensured Black children were sent to their own schools, and while the Supreme Court's Plessy v. Ferguson decision demanded "separate but equal" facilities, there was nothing equal about the education Black kids received. The high court recognized as much in its landmark Brown v. Board of Education ruling. Still, segregated school systems remain a reality. Rights groups have pointed out inequality throughout the US education system, including in school funding, "tracking" practices, redistricting, school discipline (and the "school-to-prison pipeline", high-stakes testing and how African American boys are perceived, among other phenomena. The uneven treatment can continue in college and after. Recommended reading: "The Essence of Innocence: Consequences of Dehumanizing Black Children," the US Department of Education's 2014 report on "troubling racial disparities" in public schools and the personal narrative of a woman jailed in 1854 in Virginia for teaching Black children to read 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 7:36pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Jeff Bezos gifted $100m to Van Jones Trumpanzees about to burst a blood vessel 1 Like 2 Shares
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:37pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
EnlightenedUFO: None what you have been posting has to do with CRT. CRT is not history lessons. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:38pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
9) Good jobs were elusive Slavery and Jim Crow funneled workers of color into low-wage vocations, such as farm work, housecleaning and driving wagons -- and the percent of people of color working in similar occupations today remains skewed. Black codes and their subsequent Jim Crow manifestations criminalized elements of African American behavior -- whether promoting "social equality" in Mississippi or waiting in the wrong room for a train in Kentucky -- reopening them to slavery via incarceration, a la the 13th Amendment. Anti-enticement measures tilted the jobs landscape by forbidding employers from offering Black workers higher wages than they were already receiving. Debt peonage -- in which an employer compels someone to work to cover a debt -- was outlawed in 1867, but through transportation and living expenses, merchant credits and sharecropping loans, scurrilous White employers could force minorities to work until the system was eradicated in the 1940s. The Fair Labor Standards Act and Wagner Act improved working conditions and collective bargaining, respectively, but they also excluded many jobs filled by people of color. Data on 2019 household income showed that while wages have risen since 2000, Asian and White households fare the best, with the median White household bringing in $20,000 a year more than a median Hispanic household and $30,000 more than a Black one. Meanwhile, since 1980, funding and staffing for the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has been on the decline. Recommended reading: "The Impact of Structural Racism in Employment and Wages on Minority Women's Health," economist William Spriggs' 2019 testimony to a House committee and a report on how Black workers face two lethal pre-existing conditions for Covid-19: racism and economic inequality Members of the Congress of Racial Equality protest employment discrimination in 1965 in New York City. 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:39pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Ibime: Van Jones is not too far left. Sometimes he makes sense. I don't have much issues with the guy. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:42pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
10) Housing was exclusionary Following the broken promise of "40 Acres and a Mule," Jim Crow stoked the Great Migration of millions of Southern Black people to the North and West -- which, in turn, spurred exclusionary zoning. In 1910, Baltimore became the first city to ban African Americans from living in White neighborhoods. The practice spread west to Oklahoma City and north to Colwyn, Pennsylvania, by 1916. After the Supreme Court ruled such discrimination unconstitutional in 1917's Buchanan v. Warley decision, cities devoted significant real estate solely to detached single-family housing -- which, without mentioning race, shut out most minorities. Racial covenants in property deeds also precluded non-White buyers. The Federal Housing Administration, created in 1934 to boost home ownership, exacerbated matters. Worried that African American homeowners would bring down White property values, the FHA refused to insure Black homes in White neighborhoods, resulting in redlining -- whereby African Americans were steered to "hazardous" inner cities and Whites to "desirable" suburbia. Government underwriters and 1944's GI Bill continued the pattern of prejudice, while the American Housing Act of 1949 and Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 displaced tens of thousands of minorities. Discriminatory lending and racial covenants weren't outlawed until 1968. After the subprime lending crisis hit in 2007, about 2.5 million Americans lost their homes by 2009, with Black and Latino homeowners' foreclosure rates among recent borrowers more than doubling that of their White counterparts. The return of Whites to cities in the last decade further displaced minorities. In 2019, Black home ownership hit its lowest rate since 1970, and a recent study shows Hispanics and African Americans must earn more than Whites to live in affluent neighborhoods. Recommended reading: Report on cities questioning single-family zoning, the Village of Euclid, Ohio v. Ambler Realty Co. and "The controversial history of Levittown, America's first suburb" B.G. Miller points to an anti-Japanese sign on her house in Hollywood, California, in 1923. 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 7:42pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
EnlightenedUFO: Though this is you muddying the waters by recounting history, the concerns are noted still. Be done pasting the news articles then the points stated would be debated on. I'm particularly interested in this topic of CRT. Notify me when you are done and I'm game. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Goodvibes007: 7:43pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
The Question is why are racists suddenly becoming snowflakes and angry about the issue of CRT? Another interesting article from the Michigan State University.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 7:45pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
benalvino3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eMoCW1Pq54 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:46pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
11) Health care was inferior In the country's early years, the medical profession believed it was OK to experiment on minorities -- often without consent -- and deliver subpar, if any, medical treatment, but the behavior continued long after that. The father of gynecology experimented on enslaved women without anesthesia in the mid-1800s; loose laws in the early 1900s allowed forced sterilization of countless minorities and others, into the 1970s; the US government-led Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, which let 399 Black men go untreated for the disease, ran from 1932 to 1972; Ebb Cade, a Black man, was unknowingly the first subject in the Manhattan Project's human radiation experiments; and Henrietta Lacks' cells have led to groundbreaking medical breakthroughs, but the 31-year-old Black woman died of cancer in 1951 with no knowledge her tissue had been taken without her consent. Black Americans' trust in the medical profession remains battered. Recent studies show bias, while better, remains problematic -- with pain management and health care algorithms offering just two examples. African Americans are also disproportionately enrolled in studies that don't require informed consent and are hit much harder when it comes to a range of medical issues, from maternal mortality to Covid-19. A dearth of Black doctors, of course, does nothing to rectify the issues. Recommended reading: "Health Inequality Actually Is a 'Black and White Issue,' Research Says," the debate over former Surgeon General Thomas Parran's legacy and "A medical hell recounted by its victims" 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:53pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
There were so many embedded links i left out in the article points. Posting it here would be easier to read bit by bit but if you want to check all the links in the articles here is the link to the page. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/27/us/critical-race-theory-lens-history-crt/index.html It is fake outrage to say Americans shouldn't learn about its racist past and present, come to terms with it and reckon how to move ahead as Americans. Some misguided trump cultists here think its all about black and white, which is very farther from the truth. It is also not about attacking white people, because there are millions of white men who support teaching young kids about America's racist past so they can come to terms with the future. If history was reversed and the black men were the one who enslaved white men, put them through lynchings, voter suppression and prohibition etc, it would be some sections of black people making up grievances about letting people learn about the racist past they were involved in. I'm sad for those black people here holding water for a small section of white supremacists and their sympathizers because of what? just because they hate the liberal lifestyle and policies, nothing else. Not about good governance but about clash of ideologies. Not that they benefit anything from these minority white supremacists. If you don't reconcile your past, the future will always remain bleak no matter how wide you open your eyes. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln2: 7:54pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Ibime:Who cares about what Trumpanzees think. We all know Trump inherited his wealth from his father Fred and didn't make much of it unlike people like Bezos, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Buffett, Gates and co that came from humble backgrounds. Meanwhile, all those mega Billionaires i mentioned tilt to the left and i will be worried about guys that will have N100.000 in their Bank Accounts in Nigeria towing the lines of Nazis and Klans. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:55pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
DissTroy: Seriously, get lost, i mean go deep down into the sahara desert and get lost. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:58pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
PrideofLincoln2: They are stroking themselves thinking i pasted this history of racism for them. I care less about what trump cultists think, they are far gone and dead weight. Just for the guests who come through here reading all the rubbish they post, and the statements they make that we don't challenge them concerning crt. But they have actually lost it, they can't stop this changing world, only shout and misinform while they gain nothing out of it. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 7:58pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
benalvino3: Bad faith arguments, I didn't even expect you to understand. Meanwhile culture appropriation isn't just about clothes, could be food, music, language, hairstyle etc but still you won't understand 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln2: 8:01pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
EnlightenedUFO:Most people that comes here knows these Coons are the bottom feeders in the society. I used to say that Trump could have sent a drone to wipe out their villages when he was in power and these Coons will absolve him and blame their village elders for upsetting Trump. They probably love Trump more than their own fathers. So sad people are so dumb that they hate themselves without realizing it. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 8:03pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
sanpipita: So is it bad to eat Chinese? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 8:05pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Goodvibes007: Thank you for that article. It says it all. Some choose to be color blind to reality and to the truth. There is still embedded racism in US institutions today and why is that? The refusal of "some" white men to accept their racist past and own up to it. They want everyone to forget it or in some cases honor it when it pertains to their traitorous confederacy in the civil war. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 8:08pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
EnlightenedUFO: Of course, he resorts to insults after spending 4 hours researching a topic and posting other people's articles. Garbage in, garbage out. I wanted to humour you. And he chickens out, people. Mental mdiget. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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