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Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by BoosBae(f): 6:13pm On Jul 20, 2021
Dreambeat:
Edwin Clark should concentrate on his Kiagbodo community. He should desist from lumping Rivers, Cross River and Akwa Ibom into his mirage of South South. As long as it has to do with anti Igbo sentiments, they suddenly start falling in love with those who don't care about them and those who they love to hate. Old corrupt man, speak for your community. No body gave you the power or right to become other people's spokesman
Young boy, you too speak for your state, or are you from Rivers, Cross river and Akwa Ibom? Are you from the three states you mentioned? Lol
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by YouandiAllofus:
OmoEpe:
How can I give this post a million likes?
You have aptly described the igbos emotional intelligence bankruptcy.
God bless you
It's obviously assuring that the Yorubas will not cease amazing the people of the southern protectorate with their constant sell out and self destructive tribalistic intelligence and this is a shame! It's like a tiger, no matter what, who, when and why, it can never change its spot. Always repeating circles.
So do not come here pointing fingers at others when your list is endless. We all know you.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by BoosBae(f): 6:22pm On Jul 20, 2021
nowpresence:
Shut up mouth. Only you and maybe your family will be part of Biafra

Urhobos don’t even like igbos
Which kind yeye talk be this na? Who told you the Urhobos don't like igbos? This is a big lie, both tribes don't have issues. None that I know of.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Owologbo(m): 6:41pm On Jul 20, 2021
9jah:
Ibe osha - now Port harcourt - Obigbo -now Oyigbo and so on -Fulani created divisions -We Igbos share common customs and norms with our coastal brothers and sisters -Most of them speak ibo -we dress alike -There is more that unites us than seperates us - weve fought together and weve died together fighting Nigeria- All we need is a referendum shekina
It's not by force, if you want SS to join Biafra, you meet and negotiate.
Nobody wish to leave Nigerian just to be lump with another majority tribe without any agreement.
The same way people lump together without any agreement to form this failed country call Nigeria,
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by gidgiddy: 7:04pm On Jul 20, 2021
Abaman001:
Is Enugu a tribe? Is Anambra a tribe? What of Imo? Or is Ebonyi a tribe, come to think of it, is Biafra a tribe? You see why no region support or want to associate you guys...There is no tribe in the world that is known as Africa, the same circle continue to as small as LGA,s.....are you okay now?
Knowing all of this, how then does an Ijaw man like Clark speak for Ogoja, Efik, Annabg and Ibibio?
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Nobody:
Princedapace:
my brother, no one is even talking about eastern region. All sane minds have said is this: Igbos in south south should have the right to choose where to belong, period.
Yes, they will leave and join biafra in biafra states...no one can force a human being to belong here or there, but Biafra can not use mouth to claim port Harcourt, cross river, Akwa ibom, these people have existed from history, they are South south...just like the last time, this will lead to war.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Sholaco: 7:19pm On Jul 20, 2021
Hahahahahaha indeed.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by paltielx: 7:22pm On Jul 20, 2021
Fweshest3:
Edwin Clark, you are just one man....during referendum, it's gonna be one man, one vote. Speak for yourself saboteur. I'm from akwa ibom and I'm a full blooded biafran. Just imagine your stupidity, asking if Biafra is older than delta state. Biafra that has been there before even the British came. Keep deceiving yourself. #Biafraexit
Akwa Ibom people has always rejected Biafra, Even Ex Governor victor Attach rejected Biafra publicly. They are now clamouring for Ibom Republic just as Igbos and Yorubas are clamouring for Biafra and oduduwa Republic
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Utycar: 7:24pm On Jul 20, 2021
Fweshest3:
Edwin Clark, you are just one man....during referendum, it's gonna be one man, one vote. Speak for yourself saboteur. I'm from akwa ibom and I'm a full blooded biafran. Just imagine your stupidity, asking if Biafra is older than delta state. Biafra that has been there before even the British came. Keep deceiving yourself. #Biafraexit
Guy you must be an Annang man to say such a stupid thing or ur are living in their land . Akwa Ibom State is not and will never be part of Biafla . So speak for yourself. Listen to the jingles in all the radio station in Akwa Ibom State before you open your dirty ukod mouth
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by ViolentMooslim: 7:26pm On Jul 20, 2021
Fweshest3:
Edwin Clark, you are just one man....during referendum, it's gonna be one man, one vote. Speak for yourself saboteur. I'm from akwa ibom and I'm a full blooded biafran. Just imagine your stupidity, asking if Biafra is older than delta state. Biafra that has been there before even the British came. Keep deceiving yourself. #Biafraexit
Idem usongho fien.

you no well for adding my Akwa Ibom to that senile map.

More so, I see that you are a fool for saying that Biafra has been there even before the british came.

Do you know that Chief Edwin Clark is older and more knowledgeable than 20 of you and Nnamdi Kanu put together?
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by OmoEpe(m): 7:35pm On Jul 20, 2021
YouandiAllofus:
It's obviously assuring that the Yorubas will not cease amazing the people of the southern protectorate with their constant sell out and self destructive tribalistic intelligence and this is a shame! It's like a tiger, no matter what, who, when and why, it can never change its spot. Always repeating circles.
So do not come here pointing fingers at others when your list is endless. We all know you.
You just displayed the same lack of introspection that has caused you guys so much disdain world over. Everyone is guilty except your dumb selves

Continue your delusional living
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by anambraamaka: 7:46pm On Jul 20, 2021
See comments,
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Almaigaa: 7:47pm On Jul 20, 2021
Fweshest3:
Edwin Clark, you are just one man....during referendum, it's gonna be one man, one vote. Speak for yourself saboteur. I'm from akwa ibom and I'm a full blooded biafran. Just imagine your stupidity, asking if Biafra is older than delta state. Biafra that has been there before even the British came. Keep deceiving yourself. #Biafraexit
You are an IGBO MAN from Abia grin

Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by elmessiahs(m): 8:02pm On Jul 20, 2021
Brotherman:
What are you talking about, the Niger Delta starter the agitation for self determination led by Isaac Adaka Boro, it was scuttled by an Igbo man who arrested him.
We are Niger Delta we can never be part of the so called Biafra . QED
Capacity
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Ekealterego: 8:02pm On Jul 20, 2021
Zeeknow3245:
Niger Delta will not even join Biafra. Should we pretend like it wasn't the east that staged the first coup? Or we should just say that they were marginalised and that's the end. The truth remains that South-South states are thinking of Internal development now and I am very sure 80-90% will not join Biafra. Is it Okowa that is helping is People in Asaba that we agree to such fallacy? Or Obaseki that cares less about the east ? Should we pretend that the East Governors care less about their people? Ikpeazu living lavishly whereas enterance to his state can give severe back pains. Rivers is out of the matter, Delta out,Edo out, Bayelsa out. I don't know about Akwa-Ibom and Cross Rivers but I believe they won't allow people to draw them with delusional ideologies.
All these low IQ illiterates... If you had half a brain, you would know that Niger Delta is a geographic reference for people living in the "Deltas" of the "Niger river" or Nigga river, a word formed from a racial slur? Like the Nile Delta or Mississippi Delta, it's a geographic expression. However, I don't expect much from a black man.

After addressing this point, do you know that Ondo state, Abia State and Imo state are both geographically, legally and constitutionally Niger Delta states? However, they do not push the Niger Delta identity too much because they are very much proud of their tribes (Yoruba and Igbo) and are internationally known with great individuals... Unlike most minorities who are not proud of their tribe but hide under, "we Niger Delta" because their monkey brains can't openly declare their tribes.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Abaman001(m): 8:06pm On Jul 20, 2021
gidgiddy:
Knowing all of this, how then does an Ijaw man like Clark speak for Ogoja, Efik, Annabg and Ibibio?
The same mistakes nnamdi kanu and ipobs are making...so supporting one against the other is called hypocrite, both nnamdi/ipob as well as Edwin Clark should leave the Niger Delta/South Southerners alone.....
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Ekealterego: 8:08pm On Jul 20, 2021
Brotherman:
What are you talking about, the Niger Delta starter the agitation for self determination led by Isaac Adaka Boro, it was scuttled by an Igbo man who arrested him.
We are Niger Delta we can never be part of the so called Biafra . QED
Use a brain, or at least read. Adaka Boro's republic was an Ijaw republic... The Saboteur was rightful killed like a chicken by the Fulani masters he was working for.

However, Niger Delta was a named that existed before Adaka, described by early European explorers to describe the region and included all people including Igbos and Yorubas in Ondo state.

Niger Delta includes Abia, Imo and Ondo state... So stick to your minority group and speak for them and stop throwing the word, "Niger Delta" around.

Low IQ monkeys.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Ekealterego: 8:11pm On Jul 20, 2021
Utycar:
Guy you must be an Annang man to say such a stupid thing or ur are living in their land . Akwa Ibom State is not and will never be part of Biafla . So speak for yourself. Listen to the jingles in all the radio station in Akwa Ibom State before you open your dirty ukod mouth
Low IQ monkey, during the civil war, there was no name like Akwa-Ibom state... Why are you people so dummbbb? By the way, I would have thought Gen. Effiong was the second in command? Oh I forgot, your IQ points might not be more than 20..
Either ways, most Igbos want an Igbo only country.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Princedapace(m): 8:24pm On Jul 20, 2021
distributeinc:
Yes, they will leave and join biafra in biafra states...no one can force a human being to belong here or there, but Biafra can not use mouth to claim port Harcourt, cross river, Akwa ibom, these people have existed from history, they are South south...just like the last time, this will lead to war.
They never claimed that. They only said so because the biafra stuff was actually made up of non igbos too.
But time has changed. People should be allowed to choose where to come.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Nobody: 8:30pm On Jul 20, 2021
Princedapace:
They never claimed that. They only said so because the biafra stuff was actually made up of non igbos too.
But time has changed. People should be allowed to choose where to come.
Biafra is only for Ibos... Ojukwu said it clearly from the inception of the last Biafran war, and everyone knows where they come from. Biafra is for Ibos, those that want to join them, will join them in ibo states. Claiming anywhere else will bring you more enemies and violent conflicts...trust me you don't want a war from all sides. We take peace for granted till we no longer have it. Life is choice, action and reaction.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Elenadzej: 9:16pm On Jul 20, 2021
Coronabirus:
IPOB is the most confusing organisation I've ever seen. When u make statement that suit them they praise u, if u do otherwise irrespective of the authenticity of the opinion they chastise u undecided
is high time we send you fula to were you come from
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Princedapace(m): 9:28pm On Jul 20, 2021
distributeinc:
Biafra is only for Ibos... Ojukwu said it clearly from the inception of the last Biafran war, and everyone knows where they come from. Biafra is for Ibos, those that want to join them, will join them in ibo states. Claiming anywhere else will bring you more enemies and violent conflicts...trust me you don't want a war from all sides. We take peace for granted till we no longer have it. Life is choice, action and reaction.
Many non igbos fought on the side of biafra. No one is claiming any state bro.

Igbos in close boundaries with eastern states are part of igbos except they say they aren't interested. Those are their accenstral lands.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by makavelli80(m): 9:39pm On Jul 20, 2021
No Akwaibomite that has the knowlege of the aftermath of civil war would join biafra and in a broad perspective Niger delta is never bifra!
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by ityP(m): 9:51pm On Jul 20, 2021
Princedapace:
Those igbos are in extreme part of those states, like borders. These are their communities. These are their accenstral homes. There is a difference between politically created states and ethnic race. Haiti is in north america, doesnt stop them from being blacks. Blacks are in America, doesnt stop them from being blacks.
You don't get it. They are a minority in those states. They don't have a say. Even if they want Biafra, it's not their voice that matters. Except they will also do mini revolution to opt out of the state
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Psalmistproject: 9:54pm On Jul 20, 2021
NOETHNICITY:
The whole up north, excluding middle belt, agree they are one north because they speak same language.
The SS struggle (when it agitated to breakaway from the old eastern region to have its own republic during struggle of great major Adaka Boro) predates the civil.
Go find out who suppressed the agitation of adaka boro, it's the same people who are fighting to have biafra today
The SE quest to have the SS as biafra is more than just hypocrisy, most SS people see thru u guys
Boros declaration of Niger delta republic was not a genuine intent. He only wants to heat up the already boiling country trying to get a balance after the nzeogwu lead coup so to please his northern masters and honor the memory of tafawa balewa.
If really he wants Niger delta republic, why did he join Nigerian soldiers years later to fight Biafra? Oh, was it an agreement to give him Niger delta republic? Now listen as at the time of his decision, most of the elites from Niger delta was not in support of his movement, that's why it lasted 12days. He didn't consult or spoke for the majority of ijaw nation.

Now assuming his call is genuine and has support, why did his movement die with him? Oh is it that it's when igbos are in power everyone wakes up? It's a pity.

Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Princedapace(m): 9:55pm On Jul 20, 2021
ityP:
You don't get it. They are a minority in those states. They don't have a say. Even if they want Biafra, it's not their voice that matters. Except they will also do mini revolution to opt out of the state
Baba, they were calved into those states by FG. Not their own willing.
It is all politics. Those borders were all politics. There is one between Imo and rivers states. Pure politics. Even rivers no dey remember that community sef.
Make we leave talk jaree.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by ityP(m): 10:11pm On Jul 20, 2021
Princedapace:
Baba, they were calved into those states by FG. Not their own willing.
It is all politics. Those borders were all politics. There is one between Imo and rivers states. Pure politics. Even rivers no dey remember that community sef.
Make we leave talk jaree.
The deed has been done. No one will allow them to cave out a region from the state into Biafra. If Biafrans in those states love Biafra so much, the ideal thing will be to pack and leave their ancestral home. No two ways about it
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Deadlytruth(m): 10:46pm On Jul 20, 2021
Broveens42:
Stale.
Even the so called biafra of old had most Southerners in key offices.

No wonder Dem scrap history to pitch brothers against brothers.
History was scrapped by Obasanjo who in defense of that policy argued that retention of it in the curriculum would always refresh old wounds and create more 'disunity'. However we know that his real intent for scrapping it was to help Igbos in covering up the roles which one-Nigerianists like himself e.g Azikiwe, Ojukwu and Ironsi played in bringing Nigeria to this sorry state. He obviously did that as compensation to the Igbo race for the bloc votes they gave him in 1999 and 2003 elections and that explains why Igbos continue to love, defend and idolize him no matter how wrong his position on issues might be.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Deadlytruth(m): 11:00pm On Jul 20, 2021
Broveens42:
That's what Nigerian politics does to someone's brain. It makes you not reason straight even if you have to live on 3% of your possession.


Then I ask niralanders. If the so called biafra was about Igbo domination, why were people from so called south south given key official roles in then biafra set up
Your rationalization above is similar to arguing that the holding of ministerial portfolios by the likes of Ngige and other Igbos in this government proves wrong the allegations that Igbos are being marginalized.


Secondly, Edwin Clarke was at logger heads with Obasanjo and always took him to the cleaners even though he was one of the elites during Obasanjo administration, so your theory that his present take on issues is influenced by being part of some cabal somewhere doesn't hold water at all.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Deadlytruth(m): 11:11pm On Jul 20, 2021
Chidex50:
Keep deceiving yourselves,even if that area refuses to join,what of the Igbos that dominates Obigbo/Oyigbo in Rivers state,Igbos in the whole of Asaba,Agbor and other parts of Delta State, etc?Will you Mr Old POSTS Presenter cage them there? Is there anything like South South in your Geographical mathematics?
the present South East was once officially known as "East Central State" and that was during Gowon's administration, and you the natives so identified yourselves. Was there any cardinal direction or point known as East Central back then or even now?
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Deadlytruth(m): 11:16pm On Jul 20, 2021
Psalmistproject:
South south is highly divided to become one country. I only pity those of them of igbo descent though they claim they're not igbo, when the time comes, they will remind them they are not core South south.
The South-South is not a single ethnic group, so the question of who is a core South-Southerner doesn't even arise. It is like saying that there are core Nigerians as if Nigeria is the name of an ethnic group or tribe.
Re: They Are Dreaming - Clark On IPOB’s Inclusion Of South-South In Biafra by Deadlytruth(m): 11:33pm On Jul 20, 2021
Psalmistproject:
Who created south south?
Was it not after the civil war northerners split the region to reduce the powers of igbos and preach to the south south members that they are different from them.
What is the difference between north east and north west? Even parts of the north agrees fully they belong to northern nigeria.
A time will come when the south south will wish they had South Eastern region together with them. But it may be too late. Bakaasi was seeded to Cameroon with considering the indigin sous people inhabiting the place. Funny enough, this land belongs to South south.
The north needs the oil wells in the south to fund their states and sister countries and will rather sell parts or the entire South south to another country of their allegiance to keep the south south to themselves.

South East doesn't need the oil money to grow. Check history, south east used to be among the top regions generating IGR without oil. If I were to be in south south, I will team up with south east to secede from the grips of the north, then later I can demand for my liberation. Igbo enweghi eze, igbos are democrats, if you are a king, that's for your pocket everyone has equal rights.
Unfortunately, Isaac Adaka Boro's experience in the hands of Ojukwu and Ironsi in respect of secession casts a huge question mark on the feasibility of the South South being able to actually seceed from the SE after partnering with them to jointly pull out of Nigeria. Likewise, Nnamdi Kanu's inclusion of them in Biafra maps without any consultantion let alone their consent also proves that such hope of peacefully separating from Biafra post-joint Nigeria exit is at best delusional.
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