Arda1000:
Though ure not Igbo but ur obsession with Igbo is very weird

Astfatvavsfg

You are looking for a reply, that's one for you.

Gambit23:


Any falsehood spewed by any Nigerian about d IGBOs must be debunked...If not the lies of today will become the truths of tomorrow.

Anyway Renos trashy slave shii has already been debunked with clear evidence

Well there are history that must be debunked by root which is the people concerned.

If those captured on geography of argument is quiet then why are you overstressing yourself.

Gambit23:


Same way every tribe sold their brothers.

Meanwhile IGBOs mainly sold murderers, thieves, rapists and people who commit grave crimes as slaves, etc as slaves.

This is not Reno's argument.

How you çan you debunk a lie with the distance you are moving whereas Reno started his history with Binis/Itshekiris and boom you skyrocketed to hinterlands.

You guys are something else.

Juliusmalema:



Astfatvavsfg

You are looking for a reply, that's one for you.

but come to think of it,you are from Benin and you always impersonate the people your people call slaves ,any way no Benin ediiot have a ball to call me slave to myself unless u wants his tooths on the floor

Ofunwa111:





What you should try to understand is this. He classified them as "Igbos" and we both know that it wasn't across the Niger bridge and neither was it the Igbo people around Enuani area. The area he has termed "Igbo", are people who deny being Igbo most of the time or if not all the time. So our argument is, he must call them by the name they choose to be known for and not Igbo. Trust me if he had mentioned the name they want to be known for, or the name he claims that they bear which is of "Itshekiri origin" then be certain that it will be between Reno vs Them and not the Igbo people.

Like I told someone, if he could accept the fact that some historical records are not pleasant, and he still went ahead to bring it up, then he should be bold enough to say the clan that was affected by it in Delta state and not be coward that he is.

@ bolded the people in question are silent and silence means acceptance.

The best history is to put it on Reno's face that this is the people which we all know he is referring to...

Let me drift a bit, if Reno has written this about them been biafra by now they will be all over internet debunking such and releasing statements.

But here is a history describing them as slave , they are quiet and someone else , another set of people are fighting to clear the air.

Well since Reno is blunt, then be blunt is telling them that his targeted audience are these sets of people which we all know he is fully aware.

It's amazing how the Igbos have tried to twist Reno Omokri narrative to mean Ika of Anioma. Reno wasn't referring to the Ikas, some of who are very proud descendants of Benin and can trace their ancestral home/history back to Benin.

Some even went as far as to mentioned the Dein of Agbor, forgetting that the current Dein of Agbor at the age of 2 and a half was crowned by Benin chiefs under the instructions of late Oba Erediawa and his throne was protected until he was old enough. Why would the Oba of Benin do all this if Agbor people were slave descendants.

Reno was talking about a small population of about 200,000 within the wider over 5 million population of Delta state and Anioma alone accounts for millions.

Now who are those Reno was referring to? The answer is very simple, these are the people within the Anioma community that identify themselves as Igbo, they will even tell you their ancestral home of migration from the east to Delta state, what they don't usually say is the circumstances that brought them to Delta state, this is what Reno has just exposed. Some of these guys that are active on nairaland and other social media platforms are usually very hostile to Benin history and the reason as now shown by Reno is not far fetch.

I don't particularly blame them because very few will be favourably deposed to those that enslave their ancestors.

Most Ika and Anioma always make it know to all and sundry that they are not Igbo even though their dialects may be similar.

Reno was only referring to a minority Igbo clan in Delta state. These Delta Igbo clans people have variously claimed Igbo on nairaland and the Ikas and others who doesn't claim Igbo should be left out of this guesswork and mischievousness by eastern Igbo. Ikas are Ikas and Igbo are Igbo, don't miss apples with oranges. Stop pretending not to know your tribesmen Reno was referring to.

Arda1000:
but come to think of it,you are from Benin and you always impersonate the people your people call slaves ,any way no Benin ediiot have a ball to call me slave to myself unless u wants his tooths on the floor

@ bolded Can someone just look this flagrant display of fffoooollllishnnness.

I told you guys that over 60% are totally ignorant of Reno message and are just arguing blindly like blind bat.

Look at someone indirectly ascribing slave status to himself, is this not ssssttttuuuuppppiddddity?

If I recall correctly you are from Ebonyi and Reno said Itshekiri/Binis sold people as slaves and someone who understands geography and movement will know there are always attacks on communities fringes or there are traders who has line of connection to such trade as of old to have such length of passage to final destination.


I repeat over 60% still don't understand the whole issue.

Done, argue fffoooollllishhllly with yourself as usual.

Gambit23:


His can u make statements on an issue u have never read about?

I repeat, JAJA was never a slave in Bonny or any part of the space called Nigeria.

Go n read up his history n correct urself.

It’s all over Wikipedia dude. If you an historian then this would be common knowledge to you.

samuk:
It's amazing how the Igbos have tried to twist Reno Omokri narrative to mean Ika of Anioma. Reno wasn't referring to the Ikas, some of who are very proud descendants of Benin and can trace their ancestral home/history back to Benin.

Some even went as far as to mentioned the Dein of Agbor, forgetting that the current Dein of Agbor at the age of 2 and a half was crowned by Benin chiefs under the instructions of late Oba Erediawa and his throne was protected until he was old enough. Why would the Oba of Benin do all this if Agbor people were slave descendants.

Reno was talking about a small population of about 200,000 within the wider over 5 million population of Delta state and Anioma alone accounts for millions.

Now who are those Reno was referring to? The answer is very simple, these are the people within the Anioma community that identify themselves as Igbo, they will even tell you their ancestral home of migration from the east to Delta state, what they don't usually say is the circumstances that brought them to Delta state, this is what Reno has just exposed. Some of these guys that are active on nairaland and other social media platforms are usually very hostile to Benin history and the reason as now shown by Reno is not far fetch.

I don't particularly blame them because very few will be favourably deposed to those that enslave their ancestors.

Most Ika and Anioma always make it know to all and sundry that they are not Igbo even though their dialects may be similar.

Reno was only referring to a minority Igbo clan in Delta state. These Delta Igbo clans people have variously claimed Igbo on nairaland and the Ikas and others who doesn't claim Igbo should be left out of this guesswork and mischievousness by eastern Igbo. Ikas are Ikas and Igbo are Igbo, don't miss apples with oranges. Stop pretending not to know your tribesmen Reno was referring to.

This is Ika group not your nairaland hogwash. Not everyone dwells on 400 yrs of stone age Fffoooollllishnnness.

Maybe they are drunk while on their page

Juliusmalema:


@ bolded Can someone just look this flagrant display of fffoooollllishnnness.

I told you guys that over 60% are totally ignorant of Reno message and are just arguing blindly like blind bat.

Look at someone indirectly ascribing slave status to himself, is this not ssssttttuuuuppppiddddity?

If I recall correctly you are from Ebonyi and Reno said Itshekiri/Binis sold people as slaves and someone who understands geography and movement will know there are always attacks on communities fringes or there are traders who has line of connection to such trade as of old to have such length of passage to final destination.


I repeat over 60% still don't understand the whole issue.

Done, argue fffoooollllishhllly with yourself as usual.

; If I can also remember you are from Edo state and keep indulging in the shameful act of lying about being from Anambra ivere eme,one thing is peculiar with you guys from Edo side,the Igbo obsession I mean look at you and Reno even though u don’t agree with him on this but the disease he has you have it too edoful fulls

samuk:
[s]It's amazing how the Igbos have tried to twist Reno Omokri narrative to mean Ika of Anioma. Reno wasn't referring to the Ikas, some of who are very proud descendants of Benin and can trace their ancestral home/history back to Benin.

Some even went as far as to mentioned the Dein of Agbor, forgetting that the current Dein of Agbor at the age of 2 and a half was crowned by Benin chiefs under the instructions of late Oba Erediawa and his throne was protected until he was old enough. Why would the Oba of Benin do all this if Agbor people were slave descendants.

Reno was talking about a small population of about 200,000 within the wider over 5 million population of Delta state and Anioma alone accounts for millions.

Now who are those Reno was referring to? The answer is very simple, these are the people within the Anioma community that identify themselves as Igbo, they will even tell you their ancestral home of migration from the east to Delta state, what they don't usually say is the circumstances that brought them to Delta state, this is what Reno has just exposed. Some of these guys that are active on nairaland and other social media platforms are usually very hostile to Benin history and the reason as now shown by Reno is not far fetch.

I don't particularly blame them because very few will be favourably deposed to those that enslave their ancestors.

Most Ika and Anioma always make it know to all and sundry that they are not Igbo even though their dialects may be similar.

Reno was only referring to a minority Igbo clan in Delta state. These Delta Igbo clans people have variously claimed Igbo on nairaland and the Ikas and others who doesn't claim Igbo should be left out of this guesswork and mischievousness by eastern Igbo. Ikas are Ikas and Igbo are Igbo, don't miss apples with oranges. Stop pretending not to know your tribesmen Reno was referring to.[/s]

Secondly Mr you are a Yoruba man both your oba. All of you are Oduduwa descendants and have no Igbo link. Your obaship is Yoruba. Bini is more like Yoruba. Stop disfiguring history to free yourselves from Oduduwa lineage.

Watch your own Oba of Benin affirming such...


Your oba was clear and apt

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4176926939062491&id=100002356777130&_ft_=mf_story_key.4176926939062491%3Atop_level_post_id.4176926939062491%3Atl_objid.4176926939062491%3Acontent_owner_id_new.100002356777130%3Athrowback_story_fbid.4176926939062491%3Astory_location.4%3Astory_attachment_style.video_inline%3Athid.100002356777130%3A306061129499414%3A2%3A0%3A1627801199%3A-8909183795127950748&__tn__=%2AW-R

Arda1000:

; If I can also remember you are from Edo state and keep indulging in the shameful act of lying about being from Anambra ivere eme,one thing is peculiar with you guys from Edo side,the Igbo obsession I mean look at you and Reno even though u don’t agree with him on this but the disease he has you have it too edoful fulls

Please next.

Go and build your intelligence, no wonder people think lowly of people from your axis.

Imagine daylight ssssttttuuuuppppiddddity you are displaying.

Mtcheew.

Gambit23:


Maybe there was nothing like awusa-afonja land during slavery, but there was IGBO land, A group of people who bear the same name, same language and same culture.

""Jaja of Opobo was a former slave
He had no knowledge of where he was from""



U are very deluded.

Rivers state is IGBO land, u can die if u want

A Comparative Study of Palatal Rugae Patterns among Igbo and Ikwerre Ethnic Groups of Nigeria: A University of Port Harcourt Study

Background. Palatal rugae pattern of an individual is species specific and is said to be as unique as finger print.

Aims and Objectives. The aim of this study was to identify and compare the rugae pattern of Igbo and Ikwerre populations in Nigeria for human identification purposes.

Materials and Methods. The present study was conducted from random sampling of University of Port Harcourt students. A total number of 140 subjects (70 Igbos and 70 Ikwerres) of age bracket of 18–30 were used.

Results. The different shapes of rugae were obviously observed with varying degrees of predominance among the two tribes. The most predominant patterns are wavy and curvy followed by straight. The Igbos were predominantly wavy while the Ikwerres were predominantly of curve and straight patterns. The Igbo males and females had more wavy pattern with percentage values of 51.6% and 59.9% which is significantly higher in proportion () as compared to the Ikwerre males and females with percentage values of 35.6% and 40.6%. On the other hand, Ikwerre males and females proved to be curve dominant with percentage values of 45.2% and 34.4% and this showed significant difference in proportion () as compared to the Igbo males and females with percentage curve values of 27.9% and 26.1%.

Conclusion. The result obtained from this study is clear evidence of ethnic differences in relation to sex; hence the incidence of predominance is population dependent.

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ari/2014/123925/

Juliusmalema:


Please next.

Go and build your intelligence, no wonder people think lowly of people from your axis.

Imagine daylight ssssttttuuuuppppiddddity you are displaying.

Mtcheew.

u are from Edo and claim Anambra
That’s is more stupid than my own stupidity,at least am straight about where am from,unlike u hairless weird Igbo obsessing cunt

Arda1000:
u are from Edo and claim Anambra
That’s is more stupid than my own stupidity,at least am straight about where am from,unlike u hairless weird Igbo obsessing cunt

Please next.

Go and build your intelligence, no wonder people think lowly of people from your axis.

Imagine daylight ssssttttuuuuppppiddddity you are displaying.

Mtcheew.

kmcutez:


A Comparative Study of Palatal Rugae Patterns among Igbo and Ikwerre Ethnic Groups of Nigeria: A University of Port Harcourt Study

Background. Palatal rugae pattern of an individual is species specific and is said to be as unique as finger print.

Aims and Objectives. The aim of this study was to identify and compare the rugae pattern of Igbo and Ikwerre populations in Nigeria for human identification purposes.

Materials and Methods. The present study was conducted from random sampling of University of Port Harcourt students. A total number of 140 subjects (70 Igbos and 70 Ikwerres) of age bracket of 18–30 were used.

Results. The different shapes of rugae were obviously observed with varying degrees of predominance among the two tribes. The most predominant patterns are wavy and curvy followed by straight. The Igbos were predominantly wavy while the Ikwerres were predominantly of curve and straight patterns. The Igbo males and females had more wavy pattern with percentage values of 51.6% and 59.9% which is significantly higher in proportion () as compared to the Ikwerre males and females with percentage values of 35.6% and 40.6%. On the other hand, Ikwerre males and females proved to be curve dominant with percentage values of 45.2% and 34.4% and this showed significant difference in proportion () as compared to the Igbo males and females with percentage curve values of 27.9% and 26.1%.

Conclusion. The result obtained from this study is clear evidence of ethnic differences in relation to sex; hence the incidence of predominance is population dependent.

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ari/2014/123925/

What is the meaning of this?

Gambit23:


What is the meaning of this?

You are not educated to read a research paper?

DuwaRepublic:


It’s all over Wikipedia dude. If you an historian then this would be common knowledge to you.

Jaja was sold to Europeans as an apprenticeship slave and after some years, he bought his freedom and returned to the Nigerian space as a rich man and existed amongst the riverine people and later rose in rank as a leader there( IN ANNA PEPPLE HOUSE). A SLAVE CANNOT RISE TO SUCH POSITION OF POWER.


He later had clashes and left with his family, bloodline and other riverine followers and established Opobo.


WIKIPEDIA is an editable website where anyone can write articles n submit there or edit already existing articles

kmcutez:


You are not educated to read a research paper?

Its absolute trash.

Gambit23:


Its absolute trash.

Scientific evidence which cannot be denied.

kmcutez:


Scientific evidence which cannot be denied.

What do u mean by scientific evidence?

Where was it conducted

In uniport?

Juliusmalema:


@ bolded the people in question are silent and silence means acceptance.

The best history is to put it on Reno's face that this is the people which we all know he is referring to...

Let me drift a bit, if Reno has written this about them been biafra by now they will be all over internet debunking such and releasing statements.

But here is a history describing them as slave , they are quiet and someone else , another set of people are fighting to clear the air.

Well since Reno is blunt, then be blunt is telling them that his targeted audience are these sets of people which we all know he is fully aware.

I agree that if he had called them Biafra , yes they would have come out in their numbers to attack and counter it. Eg. Sufferingboy, Ishilove , Agboeaten, just to mention a few here on nairaland. Their silence ? It's because you already know how they behave, but the world at large doesn't know , and you already known the Bini, Yoruba, Hausa , etc, will not see it this way, and would as usual believe anything that has to put the Igbo ethnicity down. Since it is so, he must call their names and identity they choose, if he won't, we must let the world know it's not the Igbo's but the Ika and Ndokwa.

Gambit23:



What do u mean by scientific evidence?

Where was it conducted

In uniport?

No, in your father’s house. You did not see the link to the research I provided?

Juliusmalema:


Secondly Mr you are a Yoruba man both your oba. All of you are Oduduwa descendants and have no Igbo link. Your obaship is Yoruba. Bini is more like Yoruba. Stop disfiguring history to free yourselves from Oduduwa lineage.

Watch your own Oba of Benin affirming such...


Your oba was clear and apt

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4176926939062491&id=100002356777130&_ft_=mf_story_key.4176926939062491%3Atop_level_post_id.4176926939062491%3Atl_objid.4176926939062491%3Acontent_owner_id_new.100002356777130%3Athrowback_story_fbid.4176926939062491%3Astory_location.4%3Astory_attachment_style.video_inline%3Athid.100002356777130%3A306061129499414%3A2%3A0%3A1627801199%3A-8909183795127950748&__tn__=%2AW-R

Ignore this Samuk guy, this particular one expects even the Fulani to claim Bini origin. The Bini guys I know , don't even want to be attached to any other tribe .

Juliusmalema:



Yes because the bulk of people engaging Reno are not the right people to engage him.

When someone talks about you it is left for you to clear your name and not someone doing that for you.

If you can't refute such histories then it is obvious they were slaves

Simple as ABC

The bulk of people attacking Reno are the right people to do that.
Reno is a hypocrite and a mischievous individual.
Reno is an educated person and if he wasn’t being mischievous, who shield and hid the particular group of people he meant…he clearly didn’t want to disclose those people. Did you watch his video. He said that it would be offensive to mention the group of people and town…He thought it was disrespectful to mention and tag the group but it wasn’t rude to say that Igbos were enslaved or that the itsekiris sold Igbos as slaves!!…what do you call that?
I wasn’t bothered about Igbos being old as slaves but Reno was misrepresenting facts. He clearly hasn’t done his research very well or he has but chose to be bias.

I’m sure he would’ve gotten himself in a deeper mess if he had mentioned those people and tagged them Igbos.

He mentioned the origin of some Portuguese words which he claimed were the places where Igbo slaves were sold.

The Portuguese has strong cultural and historical ties with Brazil and the rest of Latin America… what’s the major African ethnic group that populate these places? How did they get there? What’s the influence of Benin empire and Portugal in this?

What about Cuba, Haiti etc? There are lots of evidence out there.
Reno chose a carving done for oba spoken about by Attenborough who is more of an observational natural anthropologist to make his claim.

I’ll be back.

aribisala0:


You are in denial

The people sold are now in the Americas they are not Ika or any such nonsense

There is no doubt Igbos were sold by those who controlled the coast

Reference DOT IN A CIRCLE
Did Igbos deal directly with Europeans ? NO

They were in the centre of the circle and only those on the edge did

So those who did the selling must have been those who controlled the coast

The Itsekiri, Ijaw, Efik

It is as simple as that no need to long it

The Benin were more evolved and civilized it is as simple as that

The way you people lie n post nonsense with confidence is the most annoying thing on social media.

My paternal grandfather worked in the court system in Onitsha. Only reason being he understood the white man's language. And could write. He was a Court liaison so to speak

But here you are proudly n confidently proclaiming that the igbos didn't work directly with the Europeans.

Na my family history you wish to wipe away abi?
All for temporary sm clout...smh

Once you tell a lie, what else could you be lying about?

You're indeed a dishonorable liar/man

kmcutez:


No, in your father’s house. You did not see the link to the research I provided?

Link from where? , I think u are quite madt...Common goan being Infosys from verifiable websites or newspapers n share here, Dont be silly mr awusa-afonja.

Ikwerre are 100% IGBO till they kingdom come, dont cry about it.

Ofunwa111:



Ignore this Samuk guy, this particular one expects even the Fulani to claim Bini origin. The Bini guys I know , don't even want to be attached to any other tribe .

No matter how you guys want to twist it, Reno wasn't referring to the Ikas. If you have prove that he was referring to the Ikas, please provide it.

KosiGee:


The bulk of people attacking Reno are the right people to do that.
Reno is a hypocrite and a mischievous individual.
Reno is an educated person and if he wasn’t being mischievous, who shield and hid the particular group of people he meant…he clearly didn’t want to disclose those people. Did you watch his video. He said that it would be offensive to mention the group of people and town…He thought it was disrespectful to mention and tag the group but it wasn’t rude to say that Igbos were enslaved or that the itsekiris sold Igbos as slaves!!…what do you call that?
I wasn’t bothered about Igbos being old as slaves but Reno was misrepresenting facts. He clearly hasn’t done his research very well or he has but chose to be bias.

I’m sure he would’ve gotten himself in a deeper mess if he had mentioned those people and tagged them Igbos.

He mentioned the origin of some Portuguese words which he claimed were the places where Igbo slaves were sold.

The Portuguese has strong cultural and historical ties with Brazil and the rest of Latin America… what’s the major African ethnic group that populate these places? How did they get there? What’s the influence of Benin empire and Portugal in this?

What about Cuba, Haiti etc? There are lots of evidence out there.
Reno chose a carving done for oba spoken about by Attenborough who is more of an observational natural anthropologist to make his claim.

I’ll be back.

Well I think that's a more reason everyone needs to be blunt since Reno decided to be blunt so it shouldn't be seen as offensive.

History is like geography, when someone makes a claim and a claim as wild as his then he must reconnect such history from his base and this is what Reno is avoiding and using the word Igbo it might seem as if his Audience us far from him.

If Reno is mischievous then he must be put in his place but the quietness of even the main culprit is even more mischievous than that of Reno.

Ofunwa111:




I agree that if he had called them Biafra , yes they would have come out in their numbers to attack and counter it. Eg. Sufferingboy, Ishilove , Agboeaten, just to mention a few here on nairaland. Their silence ? It's because you already know how they behave, but the world at large doesn't know , and you already known the Bini, Yoruba, Hausa , etc, will not see it this way, and would as usual believe anything that has to put the Igbo ethnicity down. Since it is so, he must call their names and identity they choose, if he won't, we must let the world know it's not the Igbo's but the Ika and Ndokwa.

Well their silence might means they accepted the slave status as Reno is tagging them though it seems the new generation in them are ignorant of who Reno are referring to.

Let everyone know is right and Reno extends more than this in his claim then he must come up with valid explanation.

Ofunwa111:



Ignore this Samuk guy, this particular one expects even the Fulani to claim Bini origin. The Bini guys I know , don't even want to be attached to any other tribe .

Well I have given him his Origin as read by his Oba.

He should go and debunk what his oba, a Yoruba man ruling Benin said.

EdoFirstBorn:
[s][/s]

Look you guys should take all these nonsense questions to your neighborhood beer palour

There are other tribes here , stop polluting the forum with all these trash arguments abeg

Fuel price is about to be increased

It is very tiring