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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by ruggedtimi(m): 7:05am On Aug 04, 2021
OgogoroFreak:
Don't be a foolish person. Learn to read and understand.

OTP WAS SENT TO HIM. so, this has nothing to do with 2D payment gateway.
Sim swap is the new deal now....And possible your friend registered his fulls details ( card details, ccv, phone no) on a phished site, most common phished sites are Jumia, konga and betting platforms. That briefed flash was the sim swap process in order to get the same message that comes into your phone at that moment. So is possible this scammers have access to a spamming tool that does sim swap or cloning, if Is a u.s sim swap TMobile money can be used for it, but for nigeria I have no idea.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by Oyiboman69: 7:09am On Aug 04, 2021
gsmphoneseller:
Most people arguing here are also into such dirty things.

The truth is that they can withdraw your money with or without OTP.

Sim cloning is as simple as ABC.

They just trigger the first OTP, the take over the sim by cloning just for some time, finish the job and reactivate the owners sim.

Owner won't even notice that his sim was switched of from the network.

Finally, everyone should be very careful using pos.

Better transfer money to them than use your card.

80% of pos workers are agents/informants who harvest your data and hand over to the guys.
what if I cover my card with take or something... can it leaves a details after using my card even when the card number is not visible?. Please I really want to know...
Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by tempest01(m): 7:10am On Aug 04, 2021
OgogoroFreak:
They already have his details. Thing is that, some people are naive. They expose their details without even knowing. The day he exposed his card details might not even be that Saturday you guys were together gisting.

Stop showing your foolishness online. A witness is giving their account and you are jumping in and claiming wise man. You are not even doing it objectively but with insults.

@OP it is difficult for them to get the OTP in proxy. If they did then there is a probably security breach on your friends phone. Either his SIM card or there is an app that has access to read this text messages. It can't be concluded.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by phemmyfour: 7:36am On Aug 04, 2021
OgogoroFreak:
Stop telling stupid lies. You fool!

His money can only be withdrawn if they got the OTP sent to him. No other way.

They didn't flash your friend, they called him and he foolishly handed over the OTP to the fraudster.
grin grin
Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by owagbeba: 7:56am On Aug 04, 2021
obiekunie01:


you know absolutely nothing oga!

and u have been no where!

IN FACT, YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

TECHNOLOGY HAS GONE FAR MORE THAN YOU CAN EVER, EVER CATCH UP.

IN FACT, TO BE ON THE SAFER SIDE, I NOW STORE MY COIN IN COLD STORAGE. IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW.

Hi Obie

Your words gave me a lot to think about.
I am just wondering how is that possible that money can be withdrawn from an account without OTP for someone who doesn’t have a debit card to the account?

What does this 2-D platform work?

I have experienced sim swap in the past. That had to do with some guys using a fake ID and their contact at airtel helped swap my sim. Then Access bank USD operation does not require pin.

Educate us a little about this possibility so we know how to protect our finance.

Cheers

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by dami2boi(m): 8:31am On Aug 04, 2021
Like this is everywhere. Visit this site for complains made for same issue.

https://complaintsdb.com/business/sportybet-nigeria-47923

Please for now, I will advice you don't pick any call with foreign number, as that is what will tricker the wiping of account. Kindly visit the site above to be guided.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by obiekunie01: 8:33am On Aug 04, 2021
owagbeba:


Hi Obie

Your words gave me a lot to think about.
I am just wondering how is that possible that money can be withdrawn from an account without OTP for someone who doesn’t have a debit card to the account?

What does this 2-D platform work?

I have experienced sim swap in the past. That had to do with some guys using a fake ID and their contact at airtel helped swap my sim. Then Access bank USD operation does not require pin.

Educate us a little about this possibility so we know how to protect our finance.

Cheers

hi

2D payment gateway only requires a credit card number and expiry date to accomplish the payment.

In contrast, the 3D payment gateway demands the ID and the password provided by the issuer, in addition to the credit card number and the expiry date and an otp to process payment.

the federal inland revenue service uses the 2D payment platform - once you key in your card details they withdraw ur money without sending you otp. same with most online shops,

it then mean that once anyone have access to your card details, all he has to do is look for shops that use 2d payment platform and use your card to shop till your account is empty.

now scammers develop 2-d online shopping platforms for the purpose of using it to wipe funds from skimmed cards. you will just stay and be receiving alert for market you no buy,

smart guys no longer use their cards at point of sales - they rather do transfer or create an account for pos only and only fund it whn they want to use it instantly.

IT IS NOW A MUST FOR EVERYONE TO BE STREET SMART OR SORRY GO BE YOUR FRIEND.

BEWARE OF POS. SOME NOW INSTALL CCTV JUST TO CAPTURE YOU TYPIN YOUR PIN. SOME PRETEND THEY ARE DIALING A NUMBER WHILE CAPTURING YOU AS YOU ENTER YOUR PIN.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by obiekunie01: 8:42am On Aug 04, 2021
Harrykn:
I see people argue blindly, it seems you want to see someone use your international passport while you are still at Katsina. You don’t mess with this generation of scammers because sim cloning is 100x legit. Leave dating and iTunes scams and look at BEC, wiring and their friends.
G4Boys and Co can teach you how to extract honey admist bees.

MY BROTHER THAT BUSINESS EMAIL COMPROMISE STILL DEY BAFFLE ME!

HOW CAN A TOTAL STRANGER DISCOVER OR CLONE A COMPANY CEO EMAIL AND NOW USE IT TO ORDER ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT TO START TRANSFERING HUGE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO UNKNWN ACCOUNTS!

walahi this scam is not normal - some other things that we don't knw is involved!

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by OgogoroFreak(m): 9:09am On Aug 04, 2021
Flairoqy:

He’s saying the truth, I’m a victim lucky I had just 1k in my account then otherwise I was shocked, I had to reinstall the app and try to understand how it happened and until today I haven’t been able to, I can show you a screenshot of the debit alert.
The point is, nobody can magically have your card details.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by OgogoroFreak(m): 9:15am On Aug 04, 2021
ruggedtimi:

Sim swap is the new deal now....And possible your friend registered his fulls details ( card details, ccv, phone no) on a phished site, most common phished sites are Jumia, konga and betting platforms. That briefed flash was the sim swap process in order to get the same message that comes into your phone at that moment. So is possible this scammers have access to a spamming tool that does sim swap or cloning, if Is a u.s sim swap TMobile money can be used for it, but for nigeria I have no idea.
Once a sim is swapped, the first sim stop functioning but in this case, the security officer's sim was still functioning.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by Flairoqy(m): 9:21am On Aug 04, 2021
OgogoroFreak:
The point is, nobody can magically have your card details.
That’s what he’s saying, there’s a loophole in SportyBet (Personal Opinion) privacy data, either it’s vulnerable to hackers or they sold them to the wrong hands.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by OgogoroFreak(m): 9:29am On Aug 04, 2021
Harrykn:
I see people argue blindly, it seems you want to see someone use your international passport while you are still at Katsina. You don’t mess with this generation of scammers because sim cloning is 100x legit. Leave dating and iTunes scams and look at BEC, wiring and their friends.
G4Boys and Co can teach you how to extract honey admist bees.
All these things are not rocket science. All these scams you see as higher scams are only possible because foolish people exist. I am not a newbie in these things. If not, my companies would have been defrauded a long time ago. I wish you know the amount of scam attempts I get on a daily basis.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by OgogoroFreak(m): 9:34am On Aug 04, 2021
Flairoqy:

That’s what he’s saying, there’s a loophole in SportyBet (Personal Opinion) privacy data, either it’s vulnerable to hackers or they sold them to the wrong hands.
The person in question said he didn't even register with sportybet. Someone must be registered with the sportybet before we start talking about security of the website.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by Kondomatic(m): 10:11am On Aug 04, 2021
OgogoroFreak:
I can't leave a "what if" because I'm 101% sure of what I'm saying. I'm highly computer literate/tech savvy.

The security personnel is telling lies.
Nobody is 101% sure of anything as far as internet and technology is concerned.


He doesn't always need to enter OTP or send it to them.

I have received the message several times.

Some ask for OTP.

Some just need you to click yes.

Some leave you with only OK button.


And remember these are flash messages.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by luckygeee: 10:58am On Aug 04, 2021
Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by somehow: 11:01am On Aug 04, 2021
Another way these criminals steal money from people is through all these mushroom loan apps.

If you're the type downloading and taking ridiculous loans from these apps, they will harvest your details and use it to empty your account.

If you must take all these silly loans, use a dedicated account that is alway empty and only attach a bank card that is not your main card.

Criminals don't mind spending money building apps and giving out small small loans just to attack you when you have good amount of money in the bank.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by OgogoroFreak(m): 11:06am On Aug 04, 2021
obiekunie01:


MY BROTHER THAT BUSINESS EMAIL COMPROMISE STILL DEY BAFFLE ME!

HOW CAN A TOTAL STRANGER DISCOVER OR CLONE A COMPANY CEO EMAIL AND NOW USE IT TO ORDER ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT TO START TRANSFERING HUGE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO UNKNWN ACCOUNTS!

walahi this scam is not normal - some other things that we don't knw is involved!
No other thing is involved. These scams exist because foolish people exist. You might try upto 500 or even more people before one go foolishly accept to do the transfer.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by OgogoroFreak(m): 11:46am On Aug 04, 2021
somehow:
Another way these criminals steal money from people is through all these much room loan apps.

If you're the type downloading and taking ridiculous loans from these apps, they will harvest your details and use it to empty your account.

If you must take all these silly loans, use a dedicated account that is alway empty and only attach a bank card that is not your money card.

Criminals don't mind spending money building apps and giving out small small loans just to attack you when you have good amount of money in the bank.

Before using any app that involves you using your financial details, make sure they have alot of users. And focus on users complains before using them.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by OgogoroFreak(m): 12:14pm On Aug 04, 2021
luckygeee:
you can Bypass OTP on a number. here is how
https://www.viralhax.com/bypass-otp-verification-on-any-website-app/
People should learn to read and understand.

The link is saying something entirely different from what is being discussed here. Did you read it at all?

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by templemount: 12:17pm On Aug 04, 2021
Kindler01:
� S. O. S

My friend's account got emptied on Saturday by a fraudster using SPORTYPAY platform. An OTP was sent to him and immediately an unknown number flashed him. Shortly afterwards he started seeing debit alerts even without given out the OTP.

Getting to his bank today, he's been told the possibility of getting the money back is slim if not impossible.

Now, checking out the SPORTYPAY site, we discover that they don't have a standard or working platform, while Sportypay.ng automatically redirects to a porn site...

Also, there have been similar complaint online about same thing happening and same platform used to defraud other people of their hard earned money.

CONCERNS:
� Are customer's money still safe in the banks?
� Is it that the security network in the banks are now porous and vulnerable to cyber attacks?

Please those in appropriate authority should do something about this before it goes beyond control and possibly cause unwarranted depression and death at worst.
same thing happened to me but in my case,my atm card got missed so it was from there every transactions were made possible

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by templemount: 12:19pm On Aug 04, 2021
OgogoroFreak:
Stop telling stupid lies. You fool!

His money can only be withdrawn if they got the OTP sent to him. No other way.

They didn't flash your friend, they called him and he foolishly handed over the OTP to the fraudster.
u are the real fool here.I lost my atm card 4months ago and my account was emptied without sending the otp number to them.stop displaying stupidity in a public forum like here
Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by somehow: 12:22pm On Aug 04, 2021
OgogoroFreak:
Before using any app that involves you using your financial details, make sure they have alot of users. And focus on users complains before using them.

How many desperate people go through user complaint or even get to research how reputable these apps are?

Even at that, some wouldn't know they got fleeted by these apps.
Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by templemount: 12:22pm On Aug 04, 2021
OgogoroFreak:
It's not hard to believe. It's an outright lie.

Aslong as OTP was sent, you need that OTP to complete the transaction. It's a must.
its 100% possible that he didnt send the otp yet his account got emptied.it happened to me when I lost my atm card.dont argue what u knoweth not
Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by OgogoroFreak(m): 12:22pm On Aug 04, 2021
templemount:
u are the real fool here.I lost my atm card 4months ago and my account was emptied without sending the otp number to them.stop displaying stupidity in a public forum like here
Was OTP sent to your number?
Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by OgogoroFreak(m): 12:23pm On Aug 04, 2021
templemount:
its 100% possible that he didnt send the otp yet his account got emptied.it happened to me when I lost my atm card.dont argue what u knoweth not
If the website generated OTP, the otp must be inputed before the payment can be processed.

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by templemount: 12:24pm On Aug 04, 2021
OgogoroFreak:
I can't leave a "what if" because I'm 101% sure of what I'm saying. I'm highly computer literate/tech savvy.

The security personnel is telling lies.
u are a computer illiterate since u dont know that otp can be bypassed in place of that three digits at the bank of ur atm card
Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by templemount: 12:26pm On Aug 04, 2021
obiekunie01:


Oga!

DON'T ALWAYS FEEL YOU KNOW EVERYTHING!

FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THEY CAN WITHDRAW YOUR MONEY WITHOUT OTP.

BESIDES, THAT CALL THAT CAME THRU TO HIS PHONE IS CALLED "PHISHING CALL" IT WAS USED TO BYPASS THE OTP.

You know absolutely nothing Mr. Ogogoro drinker! cheesy


OH LEST I FORGET MT. OGOGORO DRINKER.

GO READ ABOUT 2-D PAYMENT GATEWAY - THOSE ONES ARE DESIGNED TO PROCESS YOUR CARD PAYMENTS WITHOUT SENDING YOU ANY OTP, YAHOO GUYS ARE NOW BUSY DEVELOPING PURCHASE PORTALS WITH 2-D ALGORITHM. THAT WAY THEY WIPE YOUR MONEY WITHOUT SENDING YOU ANY OTP - EXCEPT MAYBE ALERTS! cheesy grin
teach him cos he knows nothing
Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by OgogoroFreak(m): 12:26pm On Aug 04, 2021
templemount:
u are a computer illiterate since u dont know that otp can be bypassed in place of that three digits at the bank of ur atm card
This one don fuckup.

You are a complete novice/mugu in this field for saying this. I shame for you. lipsrsealed

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by Tyriq: 1:35pm On Aug 04, 2021
templemount:
its 100% possible that he didnt send the otp yet his account got emptied.it happened to me when I lost my atm card.dont argue what u knoweth not
You lost your card abi, the person that stole your card knew ur password, so no need for otp to clean u

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by Tyriq: 1:39pm On Aug 04, 2021
What the ogogoro guy is saying is that the otp cannot be bypassed if the website generated one!

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Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by rowland545(m): 1:44pm On Aug 04, 2021
OgogoroFreak:
It's not hard to believe. It's an outright lie.

Aslong as OTP was sent, you need that OTP to complete the transaction. It's a must.
u don't ..some site...doesn't even need the otp although they will send it.

Last 3months my spotybet acct was hacked and I forgot my ATM was attached so they remove my 12k...I kept receiving otp and debit
Re: Uncovered: New System Used By Fraudsters To Withdraw Customer's Money From Bank by Nobody: 1:48pm On Aug 04, 2021
thank God for this thread oh.

I received a message from a strange WhatsApp number (don't know the guy) about making money on sportybet platform.


The guy asked me to open an account (sporty bet) and get back to him .I don't bet and I got suspicious so I didn't continue the conversation only to stumble onto this thread today !!!

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