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Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by phemmyfour: 5:39am On Aug 12, 2021
Before cassava came, we had yam
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by Kondomatic(m): 5:53am On Aug 12, 2021
TheEnygma:
-It can be harvested within 3 months and replanted again unlike Yam that grows annually.
This is false.

Unless you're talking about a different specie of cassava.


The one in the Eastern Nigeria is harvested around 10 and within 24 months!. In fact, a seasoned farmer would tell you that the ones harvested within 10 months are wasted because the tubers have just finished growing in length and not in girth.

They have lesser starchy flesh and a thick central vascular fibre. Melts easily too.

You can not harvest a cassava in 3 months. The earliest one can attempt to harvest cassava is in 6 months(very wasteful) unless you're talking about a new or maybe modified specie.
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by TheMan3: 7:33am On Aug 12, 2021
kannex:
I was just strolling round the internet and i decided to stop the strolling immediately when i get to wikipedia.com website so i was just reading a lot of history about diffrent people then i my mind just asked me to search casava, immediately i search for casava i started reading, after reading few lines of the article, i saw something that made me surprise and decided to stop reading further because i believe the history about casava in nigeria was a lie, according to wikipedia this is what i saw on Wikipedia website corcerning casava in nigeria.

Originally a crop of South America, it was introduced in to Nigeria's southern part during the period of slave trade proliferated by Portuguese explorers and colonizers in the sixteenth century. However, its importance to the country got a boost in the late nineteenth century when more formerly enslaved Nigerians returned to their homeland and introduced processing techniques. Over the years, it has become a major economic sustenance crop and it has attained the status of largest producer in the world with recorded production of 34 million tonnes and is a cash crop of great importance to the people of Nigeria.

To me i dont believe this history but if this history is true, answer this questions to prove that the history on casava in nigeria that is written on wikipedia website is true.

1. If casava was originally brough in to the southern part of nigeria by the Portuguese then what food was the southern part of nigeria eaten before the Portuguese arrived.

2. According to wikipedia, processing technique was only introduce to nigeria by formerly enslaved Nigerians who were returning to their home land which means that casava was just planted and was never being used to process garri or fufu, until the 19th century now my question is was the casava just planted in the southern part of nigeria without it been used or process to garri or fufu?.

3. wikipedia said that formerly enslaved Nigerians introduce the processing technique, how did this people came to know about this processing technique when garrri or fufu was not found or been sold in any north american countries.

4. If the processing technique was introduce in the 19th century, What was this people used in eating afang, oha, efo, egusi and other soup that that was been prepared by this people was it stone..

Please help me answer this questions to prove me wrong that the history concerning casava in nigeria is true according to wikipedia

https://www.0.freebasics.com/https/en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassava_production_in_Nigeria?iorg_service_id_internal=1547440102204384%3BAfp_7UzuI5vH3XX_
I think there is garri in Brazil. Most potoguese slaves where taken to Brazil. So that could be the origin
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by gregyboy(m): 7:53am On Aug 12, 2021
During diring the European trade in Africa, crops were sold by Europeans to make money, including clothes
Many crops were introduced to Africa but didnt survive and many African crop was introduce to Europe didnt also survive too


The melon seed crop was introduce from Asia to africa, also rice
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by emmanuel1277: 7:54am On Aug 12, 2021
BritishAirways:
Well let me get serious. I want to explain something to you about Wikipedia. Have you ever noticed Wikipedia is cunning?;

Wikipedia tries not to give credits to Africa as the origin of some things. When it's hands are tied, it attaches such histories to other continents . As in the case of yam,
We all know yam is native to Africa but Wikipedia didn't give that credit to Africa rather it attached it to Africa, Asia, and the Americas.



The above is culled from wiki . Can you notice what they did? Wikipedia is a historic tool which our children may end up referring to but it's unfortunate most of it's data are questionable.
Bros I didn't read mine from wikipedia
I first heard it from my grand ma before my parents told me too
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by gregyboy(m): 8:02am On Aug 12, 2021
tchidi066:
My mum told me the same, she said cassava never originated from igbo land, it was more of cocoyam, yam and wateryam, that was what was used to eat soup and you know cocoyam has varieties, there are some that can be boiled and eaten, while there are some used to prepare soup like oha and bitterleaf soup, there is also the reddish type, then there are other tubers, like the one called "onah" in igbo, its yellowish and has this bitter taste. Also, i don't think achebe ever mentioned cassava in things fall apart, i am not sure.
Water yam was introduced by the Portuguese to the benins...

Pineapple = eden-bo meaming whitemans fruit was also introduced by the Portuguese to the benins notice the bo in ebo meaning whiteman
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by Passionnn: 8:07am On Aug 12, 2021
illicit:
It was imported, same as cacao


We had yam and cocoyam
And plantain.
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by gregyboy(m): 8:09am On Aug 12, 2021
Most tribe didnt eat pounded yam, they mostly consumed platain with soup or ate the yam boiled


Before you can make pounded yam, you must first have pistol and mortal which wasnt really available then...

So how did all these tribe claiming pounded yam pound

The truth is only the benins who were wood carvers could make pounded yam

Pounded yam and egusi is an edo food adopted by many Nigerians after the collapse of kingdom


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.jstor.org/stable/3171994&ved=2ahUKEwjBqsrx9qryAhVwDmMBHd9TDNoQFnoECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3iE3TQG7pXFD2L-NMouiYv

I have written on this on Nairaland before now
Click the link and enlighten yourself

Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by gregyboy(m): 8:15am On Aug 12, 2021
siofra:
Pounded yam nko?
Pounded yam was recently adopted by Nigerians from edos, every other tribe ate thier tubers without pounding it...


They didnt have the skill to carve wood to pound their yams only the benins were wood carvers in history
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by CUMIN: 8:22am On Aug 12, 2021
Same thing as maize
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by angiography(m): 8:33am On Aug 12, 2021
@op
Do you know that even up to 1950's, food made from Cassava were not popular in rural Yoruba villages/towns. In fact, my father once told me that first person that are fufu in their village was called into a meeting and was labelled a lazy man. Pounded yam was the main stay. Fresh pounded yam, and fermented pounded yan
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by Depressed101: 9:01am On Aug 12, 2021
kannex:
I was just strolling round the internet and i decided to stop the strolling immediately when i get to wikipedia.com website so i was just reading a lot of history about diffrent people then i my mind just asked me to search casava, immediately i search for casava i started reading, after reading few lines of the article, i saw something that made me surprise and decided to stop reading further because i believe the history about casava in nigeria was a lie, according to wikipedia this is what i saw on Wikipedia website corcerning casava in nigeria.

Originally a crop of South America, it was introduced in to Nigeria's southern part during the period of slave trade proliferated by Portuguese explorers and colonizers in the sixteenth century. However, its importance to the country got a boost in the late nineteenth century when more formerly enslaved Nigerians returned to their homeland and introduced processing techniques. Over the years, it has become a major economic sustenance crop and it has attained the status of largest producer in the world with recorded production of 34 million tonnes and is a cash crop of great importance to the people of Nigeria.

To me i dont believe this history but if this history is true, answer this questions to prove that the history on casava in nigeria that is written on wikipedia website is true.

1. If casava was originally brough in to the southern part of nigeria by the Portuguese then what food was the southern part of nigeria eaten before the Portuguese arrived.

2. According to wikipedia, processing technique was only introduce to nigeria by formerly enslaved Nigerians who were returning to their home land which means that casava was just planted and was never being used to process garri or fufu, until the 19th century now my question is was the casava just planted in the southern part of nigeria without it been used or process to garri or fufu?.

3. wikipedia said that formerly enslaved Nigerians introduce the processing technique, how did this people came to know about this processing technique when garrri or fufu was not found or been sold in any north american countries.

4. If the processing technique was introduce in the 19th century, What was this people used in eating afang, oha, efo, egusi and other soup that that was been prepared by this people was it stone..

Please help me answer this questions to prove me wrong that the history concerning casava in nigeria is true according to wikipedia

https://www.0.freebasics.com/https/en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassava_production_in_Nigeria?iorg_service_id_internal=1547440102204384%3BAfp_7UzuI5vH3XX_
grin op I have always asked my self that question, most of the food we eat in nigeria today were not introduced to us until the 19th century.. Are food are greatly influenced by our colonial masters.. I asked my grandma same question years (blessed mother may her soul continue to rest in peace) she told me there was a cassava, but not the type we have now, that one was bitter and black when cooked, it contained alot of cyanide. She told me there was no eba or garri. Just black bitter fufu. Achicha, lucost beans,Yam and other nutritious local foods
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by Depressed101: 9:05am On Aug 12, 2021
gregyboy:
Most tribe didnt eat pounded yam, they mostly consumed platain with soup or ate the yam boiled


Before you can make pounded yam, you must first have pistol and mortal which wasnt really available then...

So how did all these tribe claiming pounded yam pound

The truth is only the benins who were wood carvers could make pounded yam

Pounded yam and egusi is an edo food adopted by many Nigerians after the collapse of kingdom


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.jstor.org/stable/3171994&ved=2ahUKEwjBqsrx9qryAhVwDmMBHd9TDNoQFnoECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3iE3TQG7pXFD2L-NMouiYv

I have written on this on Nairaland before now
Click the link and enlighten yourself
the binis where not wood carvers they were bronze sculptors, ibos curved artifacts from wood,
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by Depressed101: 9:09am On Aug 12, 2021
pek:
Not true because you say so or because you don't know? Cassava is native to South America countries.
the guy is correct, there was always cassava in Southern Nigeria but not the species that we currently have, that one was introduced to us
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by gregyboy(m): 9:09am On Aug 12, 2021
angiography:
@op
Do you know that even up to 1950's, food made from Cassava were not popular in rural Yoruba villages/towns. In fact, my father once told me that first person that are fufu in their village was called into a meeting and was labelled a lazy man. Pounded yam was the main stay. Fresh pounded yam, and fermented pounded yan
Before your father's started eating pounded yam what were they eating, boiled tubers.
I dont think Yorubas were skilled in wood carving except eastern Yorubas that benin taught wood carvings...


Everybody claiming pounded yam these days makes it annoying and they remove the fact that before you make pounded yam you must have pistol and mortal to piund which comes from wood carving... Which majority tribes were unskilled at....

Even the melon plant for making egusi was introduced by the Portuguese from asia to the benins as exchange for their own crop..

But today all tribes drag pounded yam and egusi delicacy with we benins

The processing of Cassava into garri could be trace to niger delta, since they get their starch swallow from garri

As for the rest they began eating pounded yam after the fusion of nigeria

They hate their tubers of boiled yams with oil and their soup, like that
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by gregyboy(m): 9:15am On Aug 12, 2021
Depressed101:
the binis where not wood carvers they were bronze sculptors, ibos curved artifacts from wood,
Are you kidding me bro... Benin were skilled in both wood carvings and metal artworks along with clay molding


You will have to go along way to prove the igbos were wood carvers hope you wont bring one igbo ukwu artwork as a refrence point...

We even exported our wood carving techniques to the Eastern yorubas im owo

Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by Depressed101: 9:15am On Aug 12, 2021
TheEnygma:
Op... It's obvious you area JJc on the internet.

Due to the fact that Wikipedia is free on free basics , I literally do a lot of random researches there....

I researched on "cassava" a long time ago and I've always known that it wasn't originally from Nigeria (as you've said) but rather brought to us by the Portuguese from South America....
This should explain why most west communities found along modern day Nigeria all celebrate "the new Yam festival" but never celebrate the cassava festival because the crop didn't originate from here hence it was never part of our cultures.
There are other reasons why the crop became so important to us namely;
-Ability to grow and yeild no matter how poor the soil is.
-It can be harvested within 3 months and replanted again unlike Yam that grows annually.
- It provides a fast and easy and cheaper alternative to pounded yam.
stop digracing yourself, go and ask your grandparents... Just because Wikipedia wrote it. doesn't mean it's correct... Literally anybody with an account on Wikipedia can write anything..
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by Depressed101: 9:19am On Aug 12, 2021
gregyboy:
Are you kidding me bro... Benin were skilled in both wood carvings and metal artworks along with clay carvings


You will have to go along way to prove the igbos were wood carvers hope you wont bring one igbo ukwu artwork as a refrence point...
look if you want to talk history, don't talk to me with what you read and found on the internet .. I will have to take you to my home place, where I personally have a collection of historically artifacts including wood, and iron carvings of, masquerade masks, flute and music instruments some dating as far back as 200+ years ago..
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by kannex(op): 9:22am On Aug 12, 2021
What i can say is that the history concerning casava is questionable because if you say they pound yam, cocoyam, during the Sixteen century this african never new how to carve wood or even up to the extend of carving mortal and pistol so how come the nigerian that was taken away by during the slave trade era came back to introduce this processing even when the brazilian and other that they claim this crop originated from never process garri or fufu. This is one question that i need asnwer to
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by gregyboy(m):
Depressed101:
look if you want to talk history, don't talk to me with what you read and found on the internet .. I will have to take you to my home place, where I personally have a collection of historically artifacts including wood, and iron carvings of, masquerade masks, flute and music instruments some dating as far back as 200+ years ago..
Those masquerade mask in igob land were recent invention the best they had was masquerade covered with beads and neated grasses to cover their face...

Brass casting could have been purchased and were limited to the few populace


The igbos were naked bush people who had no sense of belonging

That wood work i posted there is from 16c which 1500Ad....equivalent


You igbos that were eating raw leaves without oil or maggi, and having the whitemen for breakfast ooh please
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by Jamesbiodun(m): 9:39am On Aug 12, 2021
Why all the arguments, have you forgotten our forefathers are taking as slave to all these country, don't you think they can take the cassava stem with them and the Portuguese sees what the Nigerians have planted, Americans adopt it and now they took credits of it just like Wikipedia just said, Wikipedia is not always right , have you forgotten it is someone handwork.
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by Jamesbiodun(m): 9:43am On Aug 12, 2021
kannex:
What i can say is that the history concerning casava is questionable because if you say they pound yam, cocoyam, during the Sixteen century this african never new how to carve wood or even up to the extend of carving mortal and pistol so how come the nigerian that was taken away by during the slave trade era came back to introduce this processing even when the brazilian and other that they claim this crop originated from never process garri or fufu. This is one question that i need asnwer to
no one can answer your question cheesy people just believe in in what they see online and does not question it.
Did Wikipedia knows cure for diabetes? Hell no but we have it here grin
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by gregyboy(m): 9:45am On Aug 12, 2021
Depressed101:
grin op I have always asked my self that question, most of the food we eat in nigeria today were not introduced to us until the 19th century.. Are food are greatly influenced by our colonial masters.. I asked my grandma same question years (blessed mother may her soul continue to rest in peace) she told me there was a cassava, but not the type we have now, that one was bitter and black when cooked, it contained alot of cyanide. She told me there was no eba or garri. Just black bitter fufu. Achicha, lucost beans,Yam and other nutritious local foods
Most soups were vegetables untill the Portuguese brought melon seeds to the edos

Pineapple in edo is called whitemans fruit

They took many crops from different continent to united state and Europe most of the crops didnt grow there thats why they still stuck with their vegetables delicacy, Asians were the continent God blessed with so many food crops most of the crops today were gotten from asia and taken to other continent
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by gregyboy(m): 9:51am On Aug 12, 2021
Jamesbiodun:
no one can answer your question cheesy people just believe in in what they see online and does not question it.
Did Wikipedia knows cure for diabetes? Hell no but we have it here grin
No cure for diabetes bro my uncle used herbal
Medication last 4years and he still returned to the sand... After so many herbs
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by Depressed101: 10:12am On Aug 12, 2021
gregyboy:
Most soups were vegetables untill the Portuguese brought melon seeds to the edos

Pineapple in edo is called whitemans fruit

They took many crops from different continent to united state and Europe most of the crops didnt grow there thats why they still stuck with their vegetables delicacy, [s]Asians were the continent God blessed with so many food crops most of the crops today were gotten from asia and taken to other continent[/s]
I already know this, but I don't agree with your last statement, I believe all continents were equally blessed with variety of crops.. We have cocoa, we have palm oil, we have cocoa yam, ground nut, and host of other important crops. We are blessed..
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by newdawn2017(f): 10:32am On Aug 12, 2021
BritishAirways:
Well God bless cassava all the same

Well let me get serious. I want to explain something to you about Wikipedia. Have you ever noticed Wikipedia is cunning?;

Wikipedia tries not to give credits to Africa as the origin of some things. When it's hands are tied, it attaches such histories to other continents in conjunction with Africa. As in the case of YAM,
We all know yam is native to Africa but Wikipedia didn't give that credit to Africa rather it attached it to Africa, Asia, and the Americas.



The above is culled from wiki . Can you notice what they did? Wikipedia is a historic tool which our children may end up referring to but it's unfortunate most of it's data are questionable.
then encyclopedia britainica is the best to use for history research
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by Nobody: 10:44am On Aug 12, 2021
kannex:
I was just strolling round the internet and i decided to stop the strolling immediately when i get to wikipedia.com website so i was just reading a lot of history about diffrent people then i my mind just asked me to search casava, immediately i search for casava i started reading, after reading few lines of the article, i saw something that made me surprise and decided to stop reading further because i believe the history about casava in nigeria was a lie, according to wikipedia this is what i saw on Wikipedia website corcerning casava in nigeria.

Originally a crop of South America, it was introduced in to Nigeria's southern part during the period of slave trade proliferated by Portuguese explorers and colonizers in the sixteenth century. However, its importance to the country got a boost in the late nineteenth century when more formerly enslaved Nigerians returned to their homeland and introduced processing techniques. Over the years, it has become a major economic sustenance crop and it has attained the status of largest producer in the world with recorded production of 34 million tonnes and is a cash crop of great importance to the people of Nigeria.

To me i dont believe this history but if this history is true, answer this questions to prove that the history on casava in nigeria that is written on wikipedia website is true.

1. If casava was originally brough in to the southern part of nigeria by the Portuguese then what food was the southern part of nigeria eaten before the Portuguese arrived.

2. According to wikipedia, processing technique was only introduce to nigeria by formerly enslaved Nigerians who were returning to their home land which means that casava was just planted and was never being used to process garri or fufu, until the 19th century now my question is was the casava just planted in the southern part of nigeria without it been used or process to garri or fufu?.

3. wikipedia said that formerly enslaved Nigerians introduce the processing technique, how did this people came to know about this processing technique when garrri or fufu was not found or been sold in any north american countries.

4. If the processing technique was introduce in the 19th century, What was this people used in eating afang, oha, efo, egusi and other soup that that was been prepared by this people was it stone..

Please help me answer this questions to prove me wrong that the history concerning casava in nigeria is true according to wikipedia

https://www.0.freebasics.com/https/en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassava_production_in_Nigeria?iorg_service_id_internal=1547440102204384%3BAfp_7UzuI5vH3XX_
same question have been asking. well for me , i believe cassava has been here before dey came
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by kannex(op): 2:51pm On Aug 12, 2021
[quote author=Jamesbiodun post=104704129]no one can answer your question cheesy people just believe in in what they see online and does not question it.
Did Wikipedia knows cure for diabetes? Hell no but we have it.

Thank you my broda na im i dey tell some people say no b all histry ware dey r wiki b true
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by kannex(op): 2:53pm On Aug 12, 2021
gregyboy:
Most soups were vegetables untill the Portuguese brought melon seeds to the edos

Pineapple in edo is called whitemans fruit

They took many crops from different continent to united state and Europe most of the crops didnt grow there thats why they still stuck with their vegetables delicacy, Asians were the continent God blessed with so many food crops most of the crops today were gotten from asia and taken to other continent
So na Portuguese bring afang too abi??
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by kannex(op): 2:55pm On Aug 12, 2021
cassidy1996:
same question have been asking. well for me , i believe cassava has been here before dey came
Thank u jare even me too i believe say casava don dey before dis oyibo people come.
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by kannex(op): 2:57pm On Aug 12, 2021
TheMan3:
I think there is garri in Brazil. Most potoguese slaves where taken to Brazil. So that could be the origin
As at what year did the brazilian started drinking garri.
Re: Is This History About Casava True Because I Dont Believe by gregyboy(m): 3:10pm On Aug 12, 2021
kannex:
So na Portuguese bring afang too abi??
I never said anything like that read and understand
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