AmazonTopaz:


The earlier you realize that this is 2021 not biblical times and the tidings have changed including marriages the better for you


Men should just learn to adjust.

Lolzzzz lady hippopotamus
There is nothing like biblical times!
The bible is the standard of living for every Christian even in 2091
That is why we have the bible to serve as a guide, so that when issues as this comes up, Christians can consult the bible.
Bible don't change my dear!
The word of God remains the same yesterday, today & forever. If it is stated in the bible killing is sin, because we are in 2021 won't change that. U are free to practice feminism, but not under Christianity as it ideas contradicts the bible. I believe her message is only directed to Christians & not everyone.

jesusjnr2020:
Some women who God has used to greater effect as Smith Wigglesworth's wife actually questioned their husband when he had strayed from the faith and began to demand things of her that were not of God.

She told him that he was her husband but that Jesus was her Lord!

That was the saving grace of the husband as he was hence restored back to the faith, and would never play with his wife afterwards. That's probably why we hardly have women of such such spiritual calibre these days, because they have made their husbands to take the place of God as the Lord and Master of their lives, hence God cannot use them for much because He cannot share His position with any man.

Moreover, the wife of Abraham questioned her husband concerning Hagar and her son Ishmael, that it was said to have grieved Abraham much, but God told him to hearken to his wife's voice.

Genesis 21:12 (KJV)

And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

So you can actually see that even though it's what men love to hear, this saying of a woman not questioning her husband and being demonic is not of God but of men.

God bless

Your Context is different from what she is saying. Read to understand first.

Most marriages are like Otumokpor marriages or rather the unity of Nigeria.

nextstep:
Abeg, let people of Christ go and rest abeg. The entire world does not revolve around the tenets of Christianity. We have billions of people in China and India who have done marvelously without any of this. Please limit your comments to your believers, and let others live in peace. Haba, anything you don't agree with is "demonic", "cursed", "of this world".

This blind, narcissistic, self-righteousness is some kind of psychiatric malaise.

ROFLMAO


Please don't paint us all with the same brush abeg!

jesusjnr2020:
Some women who God has used to greater effect as Smith Wigglesworth's wife actually questioned their husband when he had strayed from the faith and began to demand things of her that were not of God.

She told him that he was her husband but that Jesus was her Lord!

That was the saving grace of the husband as he was hence restored back to the faith, and would never play with his wife afterwards. That's probably why we hardly have women of such such spiritual calibre these days, because they have made their husbands to take the place of God as the Lord and Master of their lives, hence God cannot use them for much because He cannot share His position with any man.

Moreover, the wife of Abraham questioned her husband concerning Hagar and her son Ishmael, that it was said to have grieved Abraham much, but God told him to hearken to his wife's voice.

Genesis 21:12 (KJV)

And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

So you can actually see that even though it's what men love to hear, this saying of a woman not questioning her husband and being demonic is not of God but of men.

God bless

very so sir, I agree with u.
You see the issue with Christianity is our diversity in believe other than what the scriptures and God himself left for us.
You cant curse those God used the blood of his dear son so redeem.
After all your commission is based on bringing them back to God the father.

Rubbiish:

Lolzzzz lady hippopotamus
There is nothing like biblical times!
The bible is the standard of living for every Christian even in 2091
That is why we have the bible to serve as a guide, so that when issues as this comes up, Christians can consult the bible.
Bible don't change my dear!
The word of God remains the same yesterday, today & forever. If it is stated in the bible killing is sin, because we are in 2021 won't change that. U are free to practice feminism, but not under Christianity as it ideas contradicts the bible. I believe her message is only directed to Christians & not everyone.

Speak that which is Truth.

t is not God's commandment , but God's curse that had a woman submitting to a man. That is what that write up was meant to help you see. jesus Christ came to remove that curse from all those women who will instead submit to and obey His teachings and commandments. Meaning no longer are they subject to men but are made equal to them and this in the Kingdom of God.

The new covenant Law, jesus Christ, declared that He alone is Head & Master over each person who belongs to Him. And He also condemned the serving of two masters. - Matthew 23 vs 7 - 10

What is written in Ephesians obviously goes against jesus Christ, God's new covenant Law, when it suggests that women are to submit/worship their husbands proclaiming that husbands are heads, this again against jesus Christ's own decree, over their wives.

So when a husband and his wife obey what is written in Ephesians, they actually do so against jesus Christ and so are not of Him.

government should jailed all those feminism enforcers

AmazonTopaz:


Which feminist is pushing their agenda in Christian marriages

Really ? You think these pastors just woke up one day and decided to go after feminists ? Christian marriages are failing partly because of feminist agenda

bunto:
Where has your 'African culture' landed you blacks?
You are all still at the bottom of the human food chain... continue!

One of them

AmazonTopaz:


She only reiterated what apostle Paul said,thank the heavens that apostle Paul wrote that to a certain church and group of women and not the women of today


No human being not even a wife should be subject to anybody.We should learn to be civilised and treat humans with basic respect and dignity.

You should not abuse your power because you claim to have authority

Going by this, no nation should even have a president, Right?
U don't know u are subject to your president already?? Do u share same privileges with your president? Does the immunity covering your president extends to u?

kwasoly:



Your Context is different from what she is saying. Read to understand first.

Wigglesworth wasnt learned like his wife and made some errors as a result but that to me isn't questioning of authority.

AmazonTopaz:
Thank Buddha I am not even a religious person all these shalaye nor kukuma concern me

So what are u doing here
Why body con dey pepper u lady hippopotamus
She was referring to Christians!

fredoooooo:


Eleribu alayebaje, irinse pastor oma sin pasto ku ni ... iku irin loma ku , o daju ju .. Ayafi ti koba se pe jeje mi ni mo duro low bami .. oloshi omo iran Kiran .

Tie o baje ni se, oshe agbako keyin aye re ni, eleriibu adofuro

Kobojunkie:
See what I mean?

I don't see what you mean.. I'm not a psychic.

List your Nigerian feminist objectives.

Or shut the fck up.

Kobojunkie:
Even though Jesus Christ made it clear that marriages are not of His Kingdom, but of this world, they continue to install themselves as marriage counselors in the name of God.

Marriage was in place before the curse showed up so equality in marriage is not against God but as God created it to be.

After the curse came in however, woman was cursed, condemned by God to be ruled over by man and perish in the end - cease to exist / return to dust when she dies!

However, through Jesus Christ all who believe in Him, including women, are saved from this condemning curse(all those who live under the curse perish much like Adam), and are made equal members of the Kingdom of God.

Sadly, your Mogs have no knowledge of this and so continue to preach lies as sermons in the name of God.

So in your sick head, submitting to your husband is a curse?

Your soul is lost

Kobojunkie:
It is not God's commandment , but God's curse that had a woman submitting to a man. That is what that write up was meant to help you see. jesus Christ came to remove that curse from all those women who will instead submit to and obey His teachings and commandments. Meaning no longer are they subject to men but are made equal to them and this in the Kingdom of God.

The new covenant Law, jesus Christ, declared that He alone is Head & Master over each person who belongs to Him. And He also condemned the serving of two masters. - Matthew 23 vs 7 - 10

What is written in Ephesians obviously goes against jesus Christ, God's new covenant Law, when it suggests that women are to submit/worship their husbands proclaiming that husbands are heads, this again against jesus Christ's own decree, over their wives.

So when a husband and his wife obey what is written in Ephesians, they actually do so against jesus Christ and so are not of Him.

Wow...I mean wow

Foremost, I respect your submission because you don't do name calling or go abusive like many on here do who have divergent opinion, instead of having a conversation they rather go personal.

Now however, I am scared because of your stand. If obeying what is written in Ephesians when it comes to a wife submitting to her husband is against what Jesus stands for, then it means the whole thing is not the Word of God again, but some are and some others, are not. This kind of submission is such as I have heard when some say, it's Paul or Peter who said/wrote that, it wasn't God who said it. (Though Paul in a place or two did say this, but I think it is sacrilegious to say that certain aspect of the Bible are against Christ's/His injunction.

And I read in the Bible in 2 Timothy 3:16 that ALL SCRIPTURE (including Ephesians) is given by the inspiration of God....for instruction in righteousness.
Don't you think you have rubbished this by saying a part in Ephesians didn't conform to Christ's words?

I am afraid I can't continue this discussion further.

Regards...

blaise26abj:
Really ? You think these pastors just woke up one day and decided to go after feminists ? Christian marriages are failing partly because of feminist agenda

You are wrong !

First the biggest delusion is the belief in what you call "Christian" marriages. Jesus Christ made it clear to you that it is the children of this world that marry and are given in marriages. Your marriages are of this world and not of God's Kingdom - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36

Secondly, marriages have been failing long before this moment showed up.

Mrs Oyedepo said the truth, unfortunately we are in the last days where some people will hate the truth and with their itchy ears heap up teachers for themselves.

Mrs oyedepo is speaking to christian women, lol unbelievers gets worked up, Christianity is not natural to the human nature which is proud, boastful, arrogant and filled with sin.

Romans 8:7-8 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

If you are expecting the carnal mind to agree with sound teachings such as what mrs Oyedepo just said you will be wasting your time.

hopefulLandlord:
under what influence is a pastor who sells several faith healing books and memorabilia to his/her members but quickly travelled abroad for world class medical treatment when he/she was sick?

under the influence of agbalumo

A woman can definitely question her husband. Who told u her husband is perfect?

People mix culture and traditions with spirituality/Christianity and get themselves confused.

Kobojunkie:


The new covenant Law, jesus Christ, declared that He alone is Head & Master over each person who belongs to Him. And He also condemned the serving of two masters. - Matthew 23 vs 7 - 10

Chai madam where u keep your brain?
Na feminism do u this one?
How does submitting to your husband equal Worshiping two masters?
Because the bible command children should honour their father & mother now means the children are worshiping two masters?
You can't mix feminism & Christianity!
The position of the wife in marriage is clearly stated in the bible, go on practicing feminism, there is nothing wrong with it, it is your life. But trying to do so under Christianity is wherein lies the problem & she was only referring to Christians!

Kobojunkie:
It has been achieved in other parts of the world - in reality.

Then I guess you don't know the true meaning of quality

GreatrAnalyst:
Wow...I mean wow
Foremost, I respect your submission because you don't do name calling or go abusive like many on here do who have divergent opinion, instead of having a conversation they rather go personal.

Now however, I am scared because of your stand. If obeying what is written in Ephesians when it comes to a wife submitting to her husband is against what Jesus stands for, then it means the whole thing is not the Word of God again, but some are and some others, are not. This kind of submission is such as I have heard when some say, it's Paul or Peter who said/wrote that, it wasn't God who said it. (Though Paul in a place or two did say this, but I think it is sacrilegious to say that certain aspect of the Bible are against Christ's/His injunction.

And I read in the Bible in 2 Timothy 3:16 that ALL SCRIPTURE (including Ephesians) is given by the inspiration of God....for instruction in righteousness.
Don't you think you have rubbished this by saying a part in Ephesians didn't conform to Christ's words?

I am afraid I can't continue this discussion further.

Regards...

Jesus Christ, the one who is God's Law and hence God over your very life , and Law in the Kingdom of God, declared that it is He alone you should submit to and Obey and that He alone is

* Law over your life
* Teacher
* Shepherd/Guide
* Leader/Authority
* Master/Head
* Helper
* Counselor and comforter

So what do you think that means as far a the words written in the letters attributed to the apostles?

Snitch24:
Then I guess you don't know the true meaning of quality

I don't follow at all.

nextstep:
Abeg, let people of Christ go and rest abeg. The entire world does not revolve around the tenets of Christianity. Only 30% of the world is Christian (and much less if you consider those who are actually religious). We have China who India who have done marvelously without any of this. Please limit your comments to your believers, and let others live in peace, whether they be atheists, humanists, feminists, capitalists.

Haba, anything you don't agree with is "demonic" or "cursed".

This blind, narcissistic, self-righteousness is some kind of psychiatric malaise.

Let’s be honest , what you just said can never happen . Atheists, Feminists , humanists etc will always take swipes at Christians. Same with Christians to all others . Same with Muslims . It is the way the world is right now .

Rubbiish:

Chai madam where u keep your brain?
Na feminism do u this one?
How does submitting to your husband equal Worshiping two masters?
Because the bible command children should honour their father & mother now means the children are worshiping two masters?
You can't mix feminism & Christianity!
The position of the wife in marriage is clearly stated in the bible, go on practicing feminism, there is nothing wrong with it, it is your life. But trying to do so under Christianity is wherein lies the problem & she was only referring to Christians!

Jesus Christ commands that you should submit to Him and only Him. Now, when you submit, this supposedly in addition to Jesus Christ, do you do this in obedience to Jesus Christ who said it is only Him that you should do so to?

jefe03:


Tie o baje ni se, oshe agbako keyin aye re ni, eleriibu adofuro

Agbako iku gbona loma se ..lo ko sile leni

Don't mind them.
Only a person who has no job takes those so called feminists seriously.

Kobojunkie:
I don't follow at all.

Equality between man and woman it's something that can never be possible
No matter how u stress it
E no fit work

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ commands that you should submit to Him and only Him. Now, when you submit, this supposedly in addition to Jesus Christ, do you do this in obedience to Jesus Christ who said it is only Him that you should do so to?

Madam shut up & reason like a human being!
In your work place don't u have a head u all submit to?? In your school is there no HOD, dean, VC, principal etc staff submit to? The bible never stated the man is the head of woman, but in the institution of marriage, a man is the head, in Nigeria buhari is head, do u share same privileges with buhari?? All immunity covering buhari as the head of states does it apply to u? Does that mean u are worshiping two masters?? Even as low as primary school, there is a head in every class & a head boy or girl, these are simple designs put in place to make the society work & u are making noise! Are u answering your mother's surname?
No be your papa surname u dey bear?
Don't try to fight what is beyond u!

I really don't understand why feminism has become a daily topic on Nairaland. It amazes me of how our African men (Nigerian men precisely) want women to bow to them like they're god's all in the name of submission, then they use Bible verses to justify their points. I agree that a wife should submit to her husband because there has to be a head or a leader in the family. Being the head of a family comes with responsibility, it's not an award. No lady will like to submit to an irresponsible man or a low thinking person.. she won't delay or abandon her dreams to please you (because she's goal oriented you tag her a feminist).
So all you men calling ladies abusive names, get a life, step up your hustle if you want her to submit. Develop your character and change that myopic mindset you have about submission (submission is not stupidity).

Kobojunkie:
You are wrong !

First the biggest delusion is the belief in what you call "Christian" marriages. Jesus Christ made it clear to you that it is the children of world that marry and are given in marriages. Your marriages are of this world and not of God's Kingdom - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36

Secondly, marriages have been failing long before this moment showed up.

What makes a marriage “Christian “, “Islamic”,”Hindi”, “Yoruba” or “western”?
They are marriages performed based on standards and rites as laid down in the Holy books , culture and beliefs .
So your argument based on Luke 20:34-36 is null ,void and mischievous . Jesus was simply telling the Sadduccees that upon resurrection , there won’t be husband and wife anymore because there is no marriage in heaven . There is a reason in Christian marriage rites the statement “ till death do you apart” is made .