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Which Generals? There's no more President, those Generals are already in charge and they can't do sh!t, US secretary of defense already said they couldn't force the Afghans to have the will to fight, which was what i said before, most don't wanna fight, and the US doesn't trust them much either, which will explain why they aren't that ready for this

youghs:
Can the generals organise a military coup to take over control of Afghanistan military.

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Taliban commander to press yesterday

"It's our belief that one day mujahideen will have victory, and Islamic law will come not to just Afghanistan, but all over the world. We are not in a hurry. We believe it will come one day. Jihad will not end until the last day."

Hmmm.

We cannot blame those who always warn that in waging CTCOIN war, any country - including Nigeria - buying plenty of combat aircraft without very modern infantry fighting vehicles and tanks to give its army strong legs on the ground, such country will lose all its fancy air force aircraft to illiterate long bearded insurgents when Jihadis overrun its air force base and airports.

Army has to be strong on ground with many motorized - mechanized - direct fires 20mm, 23mm, 30mm cannon vehicles plus some VT-5 light tanks, Sabrah Light tanks, so on.

Failing to build solid army, the Humvee Afghanistan National Army was crippled like a palm wine tapper fallen from palm tree landed on his backbone.

Dirty unshaven fanatics now own Black Hawk copters, Mi-35 Hind, and Super Tucano that NAF celebrated with jollof mix ofada rice party on top cold beer.

Biko nu Nigerian Army, strengthen your infantry legs on ground with capable IFVs and dont do us Afghan style, abeg in the name of God.

Sizzorkay:
Which Generals? There's no more President, those Generals are already in charge and they can't do sh!t, US secretary of defense already said they couldn't force the Afghans to have the will to fight, which was what i said before, most don't wanna fight, and the US doesn't trust them much either, which will explain why they aren't that ready for this

But then US decided decided to leave such amount of equipments to a military they don't trust

ecomog1990:
Hmmm.

We cannot blame those who always warn that in waging CTCOIN war, any country - including Nigeria - buying plenty of combat aircraft without very modern infantry fighting vehicles and tanks to give its army strong legs on the ground, such country will lose all its fancy air force aircraft to illiterate long bearded insurgents when Jihadis overrun its air force base and airports.

Army has to be strong on ground with many motorized - mechanized - direct fires 20mm, 23mm, 30mm cannon vehicles plus some VT-5 light tanks, Sabrah Light tanks, so on.

Failing to build solid army, the Humvee Afghanistan National Army was crippled like a palm wine tapper fallen from palm tree landed on his backbone.

Dirty unshaven fanatics now own Black Hawk copters, Mi-35 Hind, and Super Tucano that NAF celebrated with jollof mix ofada rice party on top cold beer.

Biko nu Nigerian Army, strengthen your infantry legs on ground with capable IFVs and dont do us Afghan style, abeg in the name of God.

The Afghan Army didn't crumble like a pack of cards because of poor infantry equipments with what we saw and the latest development the truth is that they didn't even put up resistance because prolly their loyalty truly lies with the Talibans, they were only bidding US time to leave before officially turning themselves and equipments to the Talibans, in other words US trained unofficial Talibans for 20yrs who finally handed over to the official Talibans when the US left, the Americans knew this from the onset that's why they didn't even trust the Afghan army; else how can one explain how a bunch of Turban/Sandals and Kaftan wearing Mujahideens numbering about 60,000 overrun an army with over 300,000 men fully kitted and equipped with American hardwares. Even if America handover their entire infantry hardwares the Afghan army will hand it over, the Afghan issue is a bit complex the Russians and Chinese aren't evacuating their respective embassies because they're ready to accept the Talibans as a political force/movement. Only Afghans can rescue Afghanistan for now most of them are okay with the status quo and if it's what they truly want that's fine. It's a complete waste of time and money fighting for a cause (Democracy) most of them don't believe in; what the world powers should do now is to recognise Taliban as a force in that country then find a way to make them respect human rights especially for women etc Not all countries will buy into Western style democracy, we have to come to terms with that even some European countries aren't fully democratic as some still run a modified form of monarchy, if Afghans truly want a theocratic state the world should let them run their affairs.

ugo4u:
The Afghan Army didn't crumble like a pack of cards because of poor infantry equipments with what we saw and the latest development the truth is that they didn't even put up resistance because prolly their loyalty truly lies with the Talibans, they were only bidding US time to leave before officially turning themselves and equipments to the Talibans, in other words US trained unofficial Talibans for 20yrs who finally handed over to the official Talibans when the US left, the Americans knew this from the onset that's why they didn't even trust the Afghan army; else how can one explain how a bunch of Turban/Sandals and Kaftan wearing Mujahideens numbering about 60,000 overrun an army with over 300,000 men fully kitted and equipped with American hardwares. Even if America handover their entire infantry hardwares the Afghan army will hand it over, the Afghan issue is a bit complex the Russians and Chinese aren't evacuating their respective embassies because they're ready to accept the Talibans as a political force/movement. Only Afghans can rescue Afghanistan for now most of them are okay with the status quo and if it's what they truly want that's fine. It's a complete waste of time and money fighting for a cause (Democracy) most of them don't believe in; what the world powers should do now is to recognise Taliban as a force in that country then find a way to make them respect human rights especially for women etc Not all countries will buy into Western style democracy, we have to come to terms with that even some European countries aren't fully democratic as some still run a modified form of monarchy, if Afghans truly want a theocratic state the world should let them run their affairs.

You’ve said it all. Americans knew the Afghans are okay with Talibans. There was no need spilling the blood of Americans and wasting Financial resources any longer.

The Afghans should enjoy their brotherhood Taliban. Shikena

It seems You guys saying the Afghans are loyal to the Taliban are watching this war from the back of your screen.

Are you guys not seeing the massive crowd of Afghans in kabul airport trying to flee aghanistan.
Have you seen the traffic in kabul just to get to the airport.
Many of them are cursing the US for abandoning them and some are here saying they are loyal to the Taliban.
If they all support the Taliban, why are they fleeing.

The US failed and lost the War, That's the simple truth don't try to twist Reality.

There's no doubt that alot of Afghan people and soldiers are loyal to the Taliban but at the same time There are thousands of Afghan soldiers and commanders who are ready to fight the Taliban any day any time, the only thing that make sense here is a case of sabotage and not a freaking loyalty to the Taliban.

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What happened to Afghanistan ..........

1972: 3 women on the streets of Kabul, Afghanistan

Beijing officials pose with leaders of militants and Kremlin has 'no plans' to evacuate its embassy due to 'good relations'

China, Russia, Pakistan and Turkey all appear set to formally recognise Taliban rule in neighbouring Afghanistan after the Islamist terror group seized the Presidential Palace in Kabul on Sunday and the country's embattled president fled for Tajikistan.

Most global powers are reluctant to recognise the rule of the militant group overthrown by US-led coalition forces in 2001, with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson warning that Afghanistan cannot be allowed to become a 'breeding ground for terror' again.

But Beijing and Islamabad could break rank in order to form closer ties with the likely new government, with Chinese state media preparing its people to accept the likely scenario that the ruling Communist Party might have to recognise the Islamist group.

In China, a series of photos were published last month by state media showing Foreign Minister Wang Yi standing shoulder to shoulder with visiting Taliban officials decked out in traditional tunic and turban in Tianjin.

Meanwhile, the Kremlin said that there are no plans to evacuate the Russian Embassy in Kabul, with Russian state media reporting that the Sunni Islamist group formed after the Soviet withdrawal of Afghanistan has promised to guarantee the safety of its diplomatic staff.

'The organisation has 'good relations with Russia' and a 'policy in general to ensure safe conditions for the functioning of the Russian and other embassies,' news agency AP quoted Suhail Shaheen, a spokesman for the Taliban's political office, as saying to Tass.

And Iran, which has long been wary of the Sunni Muslim Taliban, has moved to ensure the safety of its diplomats and staff after previously offering to help end the crisis during talks in July.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9895753/amp/China-Russia-prepare-accept-Taliban-rule-Afghanistan.html

This is good for the Americans, nah so dem dey romance the Mujahedeen too

bidexiii:
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What happened to Afghanistan ..........

1972: 3 women on the streets of Kabul, Afghanistan

Anything that happens in Afghanistan is their problem. They had the chance to fight the Talibans, imagine if the Syrian Arab Army fell apart to IS like the way the Afghan military collapse.

The liberals had the chance to fight against the Talibans, but they all act like cowards, I'm glad the Talibans no want make any Afghan leave the country again.

Make everyone of them feel the heat. This is the result of thier cowardice.

They were once in bondage before the Americans came, they tasted freedom after the Americans came, they could have fight and keep on enjoying this freedom, but thier cowardice will make live under the control of the Talibans once again.

Congrat to the Talibans.

Even the Iraqi military is not this terrible.

youghs:
It seems You guys saying the Afghans are loyal to the Taliban are watching this war from the back of your screen.

Are you guys not seeing the massive crowd of Afghans in kabul airport trying to flee aghanistan.
Have you seen the traffic in kabul just to get to the airport.
Many of them are cursing the US for abandoning them and some are here saying they are loyal to the Taliban.
If they all support the Taliban, why are they fleeing.

The US failed and lost the War, That's the simple truth don't try to twist Reality.

There's no doubt that alot of Afghan people and soldiers are loyal to the Taliban but at the same time There are thousands of Afghan soldiers and commanders who are ready to fight the Taliban any day any time, the only thing that make sense here is a case of sabotage and not a freaking loyalty to the Taliban.

Why can't you beg the Nigerian government to send our military to Afghanistan to fight for thousands of Afghanistan that are not in support of the Talibans?

Afghanistan soldiers were surrendering to the Talibans instead of fighting to dead, but nah Americans you want make dem com dey fight and die on behalf of just thousands of Afghans

Even if USA keep on fighting till 2030, if they leave by 2031, the Talibans go still take over Afghanistan. If the Afghan people refuse to fight and take their country from the Talibans, nobody will help them do so.

All this able body men had the chance to join the military and fight, they all sat down in their house, waiting for American citizens to come and die for them

Ashraf Ghani, the Afghan President who has apparently just fled to Tajikistan (which was invaded by the Taliban and AQ fraternity during its 1990s civil war) writing for the Los Angeles Times in an article appearing in The York Dispatch of 16 February 1989.

youghs:
It seems You guys saying the Afghans are loyal to the Taliban are watching this war from the back of your screen.

Are you guys not seeing the massive crowd of Afghans in kabul airport trying to flee aghanistan.
Have you seen the traffic in kabul just to get to the airport.
Many of them are cursing the US for abandoning them and some are here saying they are loyal to the Taliban.
If they all support the Taliban, why are they fleeing.

The US failed and lost the War, That's the simple truth don't try to twist Reality.

There's no doubt that alot of Afghan people and soldiers are loyal to the Taliban but at the same time There are thousands of Afghan soldiers and commanders who are ready to fight the Taliban any day any time, the only thing that make sense here is a case of sabotage and not a freaking loyalty to the Taliban.

If you want to understand what happened to Afghanistan very well, you need to look beyond the news and do more intent research.
Taliban is heavily supported outside the cities, where the brunt of the war went on for 20 years. Kabul never saw Taliban since after the 2001 takeover. Kabul is westernized and many do not support the Taliban.

Also, many were willing to fight the Taliban. You're right about that. There is a service called the Afghan commando corps, a very highly disciplined and effective service branch. They've hardly ever lost ground to Taliban. In fact the Taliban are scared of them. It is different from the Afghan army which is highly useless, filled with sabotage and corruption. Along with the US, they've been the one's bearing the brunt of the war. These guys still fought back the Taliban until they were ordered to retreat.

Why then did they lose? It happens that the special forces are highly mobile and do not hold territory. They fight and handover to the normal military. The military commits human rights abuses on citizens, resulting in hate for them. Due to US pull out and systemic issues both with the military and the country. The Afghan army lost so much ground to the Taliban who were highly motivated considering the twist of fate. Now the Afghan Special forces wanted to go on an offensive, but the high command was skeptical about them being able to push them back for long without US support and since they're also outnumbered. So they pulled them back to seek a deal. The deal itself failed and we are here now.

Any time I remember the Afghan Commando Corps I feel so sad. They were so good. The US must relocate this guys out because the Taliban hates them so much and usually beheads any captured. They've beheaded some in the past.

Do you have any idea how much excess arm the US has? They simply have no use for whatever was left over, that's how the rich do it lol, the headache of having to transport those out, probably not worth it to them. And the Afghans can't also say they weren't left with nothing, except they failed to make use of what was left to them. It can be argued many ways, once again, i feel bad for the women and girls in that country.

slimthugchimee2:
But then US decided decided to leave such amount of equipments to a military they don't trust

See the massive crowd

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— Sowaibah Hanifie (@SowaibahH) August 16, 2021

when people say afghans support the taliban, they simply meant they still have support among the masses, doesn't mean the entire population.
We just don't often make that distinction, but it should be obvious.

youghs:
It seems You guys saying the Afghans are loyal to the Taliban are watching this war from the back of your screen.

Are you guys not seeing the massive crowd of Afghans in kabul airport trying to flee aghanistan.
Have you seen the traffic in kabul just to get to the airport.
Many of them are cursing the US for abandoning them and some are here saying they are loyal to the Taliban.
If they all support the Taliban, why are they fleeing.

The US failed and lost the War, That's the simple truth don't try to twist Reality.

There's no doubt that alot of Afghan people and soldiers are loyal to the Taliban but at the same time There are thousands of Afghan soldiers and commanders who are ready to fight the Taliban any day any time, the only thing that make sense here is a case of sabotage and not a freaking loyalty to the Taliban.

Looks like some Afghans are still in the fight

Lurker4Long:
Ashraf Ghani, the Afghan President who has apparently just fled to Tajikistan (which was invaded by the Taliban and AQ fraternity during its 1990s civil war) writing for the Los Angeles Times in an article appearing in The York Dispatch of 16 February 1989.

Ah! karma.

Sizzorkay:
when people say afghans support the taliban, they simply meant they still have support among the masses, doesn't mean the entire population.
We just don't often make that distinction, but it should be obvious.

There's no doubt the Taliban has alot support but that level of support does not warrant this kind Victory.
The only thing that make sense here is the sabotage mentioned by whyem15 and also probably the effect of propaganda.

Lurker4Long:
Ashraf Ghani, the Afghan President who has apparently just fled to Tajikistan (which was invaded by the Taliban and AQ fraternity during its 1990s civil war) writing for the Los Angeles Times in an article appearing in The York Dispatch of 16 February 1989.

Lord

Man seeing the Taliban easily seize cache load of weapons and aircraft the Nigerian government had to cough out dollars with blood to purchase just has me all

This is just the beginning of what I call the "ripple effect". These doesn't mean there would be an end to Western influence in the middle east, but there will be much balance between parties involved more than the past decades.

Incidentally, aren’t Asians positively charmed? Africans, for the most part, stoically suffer Africa nations difficulties, even when not responsible, yet are universally reviled, finger pointed at, to take responsibility for our local difficulties and not blaming the West. Asia and Middle East, on the other hand, not only blame the west for all past and contemporaneous difficulties but they physically attack the West, see terrorist acts (and the unleashing of tsunami migrants ).

The world would never almost entirely blame America for the shortcomings of any African nation in place of the cowardly Afghans. Only cowardly mind, if majority are not secretly in support of the Talibanic status quo. Ultimately, Women seem to be the key to revolutionising Islam for islam increasingly seems as if all about Women as social, physical and philosophic resource.

Bakura Agricultural College: 15 students abducted and four killed at school in Zamfara

Gunmen have abducted some students and teachers at the College of Agriculture and Animal Health in Bakura, Zamfara state.

Aliyu Bakura, deputy registrar of the college, confirmed the development to BBC Hausa.

“Last Sunday night around 10pm they entered and opened fire and took away 15 students and a teacher and his wife and two children,” he said.

Mallam Aliyu said the attackers were very numerous and climbed the wall and spent more than two hours in the school firing.

This is not the first time bandits will abduct students from schools in Zamfara. On February 26, bandits invaded Government Girls Science Secondary School, Jangebe, Zamfara state and abducted many female students but were later released after spending weeks in custody.

In recent times, the northern part of the country has witnessed a series of abductions of schoolchildren, a development that has led to the closure of many schools in the region.

At the moment, many abducted students from northern schools are still in the custody of bandits.

BBC Hausa

Serious respect to the Nigerian military for restricting Boko haram to their current enclaves seeing what has unfolded in Afghanistan should tell us how everything could have seriously unraveled if not for the determination of our brave men and women of the Nigerian armed forces.

A lot of people are worried about the ripple effects the victory of the taliban will have on the fight against terrorists/jihadists especially in Nigeria. Apart from the moral boost it will give to ISWAP I think the Nigerian state's situation still defers from that of the Afghans. Unlike the locals in Afghanistan I don't think boko haram enjoys the support like that from the populace in Borno, Yobe or Adamawa. The atrocities they have and continuing to commit in the NE will never get them that level of support they first enjoyed when they emerged. Definitely not taliban levels of support.

I think the current strategies being deployed of intense military bombardment and the caring reconciliatory approach of Gov Zulum has really helped and will optimistically bring this war to an end soon.

That however doesn't mean we shouldn't be on our guard remember how just like that around 2013/2014 boko haram controlled almost the entire NE bombing parts of Nigeria with impunity. We must do everything so that doesn't repeat itself again.

DubaiLandLord1:
Fulani heardsmen and Bandits are also getting bolder in Nigeria. They attacked a place in pleateu state few days ago, killing more than 70 people, destroying and burning properties worth millions of Naira. Where this happened is close to rukuba.

The report simply said bandits... Moreover the 22 latest killed where Muslim preachers returning from bauchi..
Secondly, in Northern Nigeria, bandits don't usually kill but rather abduct for money.... Hope u see where am going with this

GeneralFarouq:
The report simply said bandits... Moreover the 22 latest killed where Muslim preachers returning from bauchi..
Secondly, in Northern Nigeria, bandits don't usually kill but rather abduct for money.... Hope u see where am going with this

Bandits in northern Nigeria don't usually kill
Ate you fvking kidding me?
These mofos have made millions homeless, destroying farmlands and properties.

Everyone condemned the killing of those people.

DubaiLandLord1:
Even the Iraqi military is not this terrible.

And Nigeria Army is very terrible, can't even fight rag tags bht.