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Karleb:
Whether we'll win or not isn't the question.

The question should be, have we tried to win this war?

Since the days of GEJ, the northerners have been firmly behind Boko Haram. Some northerners are only against them now because they killed Muslims. Trust me, if Boko Haram and bandits targets were southerners and Christians alone, most northerns would still be firmly behind them.

The northerns have done their best to frustrate the pseudo efforts of the government, especially this present administration.

The thing seems like a joke to me, how can you send aides to pay for ransom to bandits and tell me you don't know where they are?
You take pictures with them, have a round table discussion with them but yet, you don't know their locations?

Remember what OBJ did in Niger Delta? How he cleared those militants after having a group discussion with them? Trust me, we can pull something as easy as that off, especially with the fact that majority of these Boko Haram and Bandits have very low IQ.

There is a saying in yoruba that, if you don't play, you can't win.


As for the future of the South, we have oil, we are intelligent amongst other things.
The southern states are the best in Nigeria.
It's the safest place to be in Nigeria.
If you remove the northern affiliation and for the fact that we don't get to share revenues with the north who are much than us in terms of number of geopolitical zone, state and population, we will do very fine. We'll also easily attract foreign investors.

Powersurge:
Oga your story is shortlived. First of Russia got her ass whooped in Afghanistan.

Second of all, USA, thoroughly dealt with Taliban, removed them from government, installed new govt etc. The next phase now is to teach Afghans to fight their own war. Which is what US would do eventually.

Thirdly, America though not invincible is a master tactician. Withdrawal from Afghanistan and subsequently allowing terrorists taking over the country would be strategic.

First, it will allow the oppressed China's Ughur region, to have direct access to a terror nation. And you know the problems in the Urghur region in China.

Secondly, Taliban can easily seize Tajikistan and Uzbekistan which are at the backyard of Russia. Bringing terrorism into China-Russia mix would be a great tool for global dominance. Sacrificing Afghanistan to achieve that aim wouldn't be a difficult decision.

Knowing that America has over 50 years experience dealing with terrorists, they have moved into the realm of using terrorists to achieve their aims. Rather than completely wiping them out. Don't forget that at the height of Iran-US crisis, there were insinuations that America wanted to activate ISIS who is arch enemy of Iran.

If the global GDP is $80tr and your country alone controls $22tr out of it, you can do a lot.

It will be very difficult for terrorists to overun the south if we remove govt interference. Because for one, they are easily identifiable compared to southern population. Secondly, the south is much smaller and less mountainous. Thirdly, we have more resources to fight a prolonged warfare than them, amongst others.

U are wise

Dybala11:
The U.S does not have a state religion, stop being delusional. He may an allegation upon hearsay, all the top terrorist organizations in the world are pro-islamic. Middle Eastern countries are often violent.

But they people involved are Christians.

cheruv:
The future of southern Nigeria would be bleak because there are more southern idiots than rational beings

e.g Muric

naija4life247:
Afghanistan shares border with Russia, yet Taliban no dey pass their boundary enter Russia because they know it will take Russia few hours to wipe out Taliban and join Afghanistan to Russia forever.

So, of Book Haram takes over the Northern land of sorrow, tears and blood and fully establishes its government of killing and maiming, Lower Niger will protect and secure its boundaries

Afghanistan shares border China and not Russia bro

Positivepoint:
But they people involved are Christians.

You mean ISIS are Christians?? Oh boy.

*SATURDAY ATTACK IN PLATEAU STATE, MATTERS ARISING*

1. Government footing the bill of all affected, including victims of Sunday's attacks
2. Government to send high power delegation to the sheik and Bauchi State Government to condolences
3. Plateau State will send delegate to Ondo state to commensurate with them.
4. Federal Government sent Police Special Forces to Rukuba road.
5. Within 24 hours, presidency sent in condolence message, Muslim groups react, police commissioner gave ethnic and religious update.
6. Sunday attacks and killings of Christians on the Plateau haven't received any attention yet. They called it repraisal, but none of the Sunday attackers have been apprehended despite the curfew.
7. Why is Government and the Media silent over the killings of worshippers on Sunday?

*My Query*
a. Arrest made in Rukuba road attack, while Irigwe killers, no arrest.
b. No special deployment to irigwe land since spate of killings and burning of houses took place there.
c. No National concern to irigwe People by the presidency. But over 20 have been arrested in connection to Rukuba road incident.
d. Lalong seems not to be more emotional about irigwe killings but having sleepless nights over Rukuba road attack.
e. Curfew has been reviewed twice within 24 hours, but Bassa killing received mild attention.
f. When will killers of Christians be arrested? When will Federal Government deploy special forces to Bauchi road as it is in Rukuba Road?

These are pertinent issues and questions that need global concern.

We must leave emotions aside and think critically.

Powersurge:
Oga your story is shortlived. First of Russia got her ass whooped in Afghanistan.

Second of all, USA, thoroughly dealt with Taliban, removed them from government, installed new govt etc. The next phase now is to teach Afghans to fight their own war. Which is what US would do eventually.

Thirdly, America though not invincible is a master tactician. Withdrawal from Afghanistan and subsequently allowing terrorists taking over the country would be strategic.

First, it will allow the oppressed China's Ughur region, to have direct access to a terror nation. And you know the problems in the Urghur region in China.

Secondly, Taliban can easily seize Tajikistan and Uzbekistan which are at the backyard of Russia. Bringing terrorism into China-Russia mix would be a great tool for global dominance. Sacrificing Afghanistan to achieve that aim wouldn't be a difficult decision.

Knowing that America has over 50 years experience dealing with terrorists, they have moved into the realm of using terrorists to achieve their aims. Rather than completely wiping them out. Don't forget that at the height of Iran-US crisis, there were insinuations that America wanted to activate ISIS who is arch enemy of Iran.

If the global GDP is $80tr and your country alone controls $22tr out of it, you can do a lot.

It will be very difficult for terrorists to overun the south if we remove govt interference. Because for one, they are easily identifiable compared to southern population. Secondly, the south is much smaller and less mountainous. Thirdly, we have more resources to fight a prolonged warfare than them, amongst others.

I already knew that there is a China-Russia mix to this USA withdrawal from Afghanistan and allowing Taliban to gain control puzzle. USA will not want to fight a direct war with either China or Russia, but it can use domestic terrorism to instigate civil unrest in both of the countries. I would not be surprised if USA started arming Taliban to start a proxy war with China through the muslim-majority Urghur region. All the cards are on the table for USA to play on this Afghanistan move, but I believe it is a future war strategy.

Foreigna2:
"Real battlefield commanders" who have been reduced to serving as ushers for boko haram escapees.
"Real battlefield commanders" serving as cheerleaders as drummer boys for Chadian troops on the offensive against boko haram.

Your quotes are what make them laugh. Let's enjoy our safety as it is, as we are far away front the front. Hopefully, the boys will continue to succeed and the front will never come near us.

tensazangetsu20:
I was watching a documentary today on CNN about the Talibans capture of a major city in Afghanistan. The first thing they did was to get all girls from age 12 and above for the commanders and various members to get married to and it got me thinking. The Taliban and the various terror groups in the north all share the same ideology. No amount of weapons or super intelligence can defeat this guys. I mean the USA poured in over 20 billion dollars in Afghanistan. Sent in high end weapons, trained the Afghan troops yet they still lost the war. 20 years gone, thousands of Americans dead and the war was lost.

If a whole America couldn't defeat the Taliban what is the fate of the Nigerian army in winning the boko haram war.

Please let stop misinforming people.

The U.S didn't lose the Afghan war. They invaded the country with two aims: topple the Taliban government of Afghanistan and neutralize Osama Bin Laden.

The U.S wasn't fighting to eliminate the Taliban. Taliban, their sympathizers and enablers (Pakistan) can't stand the full might of the U.S armed forces. Again, there are whispers on the street that the U.S withdrawal approach is deliberate to allow the Taliban to capture Afgan.

All these are international politics to put Iran, the bad boy of the middle east on their toes.

Taliban is Iran's fiercest enemy and they are coming for them while Tehran, Jerusalem and Washington are happy, sipping their wine as they await the outcome of their masterstroke.

Perhaps, you're not aware the U.S evacuated the Bagram Air Base leaving thousands of imprisoned Taliban hardened fighters behind for the Taliban to rescue and reintegrate them into their army.

One of the major cities Taliban captures was led by an imprisoned Taliban commander released to them by the U.S.

Dybala11:
Well you constructed your argument quite well sir, I do have opposing beliefs to some of them though. Currently, the Russian and Chinese governments are top of the list among nations willing to accept the Taliban rule in Afghanistan thus making them alies. Terrorist attacks may then be planned against the U.S, its interest and alies right from Afghanistan. You still don't know the extent that these terrorists, the Chinese and the Russian federation can go to oppose the West, do you??

Their hatred for the West is a common ground for all of them, the China and Russia may even decide to directly fund the Taliban and indirectly fund every other terrorist groups in order to stage a war against the U.S, like a war via proxy. Taliban's opposition to Iran is another ball game entirely though.

Lovely premise. Firstly, Russia does not have financial muscle to match US in terms of defense funding. At the height of USSR, they could only do this much. Let alone Russia. While Russia is a global power and pulls certain belligerent challenge, she cannot hurt US interest on a long term.

While the Chinese have relatively better technologies than Russia (I am not sure of this), America has more money to spend in finance long term war (either conventional or unconventional). The beauty of having a very high per capital GDP and strong economy is that you can finance non-economic affairs for a long time without having direct effect on the population. This is something The Chinese would struggle against on long run.

Talking about partnership. While I cannot downplay the partnership among the trio, Taliban knows that Russia is not her friend. Russia is as culpable as America. Because the former was the first to open war on them. Russia and China are forming alliance with Taliban to prevent the Talibans from influencing their countries' belligerent population. Both China and Russia have terrorist or potential terrorist groups. The worse thing is self implosion. which could happen to these countries should Taliban have unfetted access.

FreedomArmy:
if things get worse than it is right now,is it not as good as fallen?
Oga seun try and see the bigger picture and see the fact that the country is irredeemable.ten years ago if anybody tell you that southerners will be killed in their own land,you will never believe it but alas it's happening.
My take is this that every reasonable southerner should support the balkanization of the country. There is no two ways about it

You want his Mods to ban you till 4044?

Powersurge:
lol. I wrote it myself. I usually follow up war analysis and commentary. Middle East/Asia is of particular interest to me. There is one last war that would be fought. That war will either tumble USA as the sole superpower or set her as the undisputed champion.

which war please?

Dybala11:
Well you constructed your argument quite well sir, I do have opposing beliefs to some of them though. Currently, the Russian and Chinese governments are top of the list among nations willing to accept the Taliban rule in Afghanistan thus making them alies. Terrorist attacks may then be planned against the U.S, its interest and alies right from Afghanistan. You still don't know the extent that these terrorists, the Chinese and the Russian federation can go to oppose the West, do you??

Their hatred for the West is a common ground for all of them, the China and Russia may even decide to directly fund the Taliban and indirectly fund every other terrorist groups in order to stage a war against the U.S, like a war via proxy. Taliban's opposition to Iran is another ball game entirely though.

I don't think this is right.

From U.S body language you could see they are aligning with Taliban to fight Iran. Everything playing out is "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" scenario.

Op you have nothing to worry about, worry about your north instead. I swear with your mother, if terrorists from the north tries to invade the south, they'll be met with heavy resistance. Hehe, don't think southerners are weak oo else e go clear for your eye that time.
If south can form alliances with the western nations and borrow technological equipments from them, then it should be a clean and easy victory. Like I really can't see myself sleeping at home when I know that there are weapons available and I could go out there and make a difference in our favor. The boarders of Southern Nigeria will all be well protected and defended. I assure you

LLiKYekoba:
We'll build a WALL longer and taller than the Great wall of China. Keep the northern terrorist ragheads in their region.

The great wall of China was a useless pile of stone that was as ineffective as anything you can think of

Na to marry Amaka , Titilayo and Kemute and get dual citizenship

tensazangetsu20:
I was watching a documentary today on CNN about the Talibans capture of a major city in Afghanistan. The first thing they did was to get all girls from age 12 and above for the commanders and various members to get married to and it got me thinking. The Taliban and the various terror groups in the north all share the same ideology. No amount of weapons or super intelligence can defeat this guys. I mean the USA poured in over 20 billion dollars in Afghanistan. Sent in high end weapons, trained the Afghan troops yet they still lost the war. 20 years gone, thousands of Americans dead and the war was lost.

If a whole America couldn't defeat the Taliban what is the fate of the Nigerian army in winning the boko haram war. They are even recruited into the same army and people in the south are just sitting down. Whether people like it or not. Those guys will take over the north and when they do what happens to the south. I mean people make a lot of noise on social media but we all know southern tribes aren't used to wars or warrior like in nature compared to the north that has known and fought all kinds of wars. Even if the country divides as people want it to. Will independent southern nations have the resources to fight the terror groups in the north. With Afghanistan under taliban control it will become a training and funding ground for all forms of terror group.

I have always predicted southern Nigeria to be like congo or Liberia in the future but with what's going on in the north it might be much worst than Afghanistan and Yemen put together.

NetValueFX:
You want his Mods to ban you till 4044?

that one na small thing

Powersurge:
Lovely premise. Firstly, Russia does not have financial muscle to match US in terms of defense funding. At the height of USSR, they could only do this much. Let alone Russia. While Russia is a global power and pulls certain belligerent challenge, she cannot hurt US interest on a long term.

While the Chinese have relatively better technologies than Russia (I am not sure of this), America has more money to spend in finance long term war (either conventional or unconventional). The beauty of having a very high per capital GDP and strong economy is that you can finance non-economic affairs for a long time without having direct effect on the population. This is something The Chinese would struggle against on long run.

Talking about partnership. While I cannot downplay the partnership among the trio, Taliban knows that Russia is not her friend. Russia is as culpable as America. Because the former was the first to open war on them. Russia and China are forming alliance with Taliban to prevent the Talibans from influencing their countries' belligerent population. Both China and Russia have terrorist or potential terrorist groups. The worse thing is self implosion. which could happen to these countries should Taliban have unfetted access.

I don't dispute the fact that Russia, China and the Talibans have their differences. I only made a submission that it is highly likely that they can come together solely to oppose the U.S and the West in general, which is an objective that they all have in common. The common point between China and Russia is their opposition to the U.S, the two of them can still pull their resources together to pose a significant threat to the U.S. Also, they can come to a sort of understanding or arrangement with the Taliban, such that they can "aid the effort of the Talibans and other terrorist groups against the U.S". This is the assertion that I've been making in my comments, even the U.S is wary that terrorist attacks against mainland U.S and it's interest can now be easily staged from Afghanistan. The ideology is that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Powersurge:
Oga your story is shortlived. First of Russia got her ass whooped in Afghanistan.

Second of all, USA, thoroughly dealt with Taliban, removed them from government, installed new govt etc. The next phase now is to teach Afghans to fight their own war. Which is what US would do eventually.

Thirdly, America though not invincible is a master tactician. Withdrawal from Afghanistan and subsequently allowing terrorists taking over the country would be strategic.

First, it will allow the oppressed China's Ughur region, to have direct access to a terror nation. And you know the problems in the Urghur region in China.

Secondly, Taliban can easily seize Tajikistan and Uzbekistan which are at the backyard of Russia. Bringing terrorism into China-Russia mix would be a great tool for global dominance. Sacrificing Afghanistan to achieve that aim wouldn't be a difficult decision.

Knowing that America has over 50 years experience dealing with terrorists, they have moved into the realm of using terrorists to achieve their aims. Rather than completely wiping them out. Don't forget that at the height of Iran-US crisis, there were insinuations that America wanted to activate ISIS who is arch enemy of Iran.

If the global GDP is $80tr and your country alone controls $22tr out of it, you can do a lot.

It will be very difficult for terrorists to overun the south if we remove govt interference. Because for one, they are easily identifiable compared to southern population. Secondly, the south is much smaller and less mountainous. Thirdly, we have more resources to fight a prolonged warfare than them, amongst others.

You are wise.

This is exactly what I have been telling people and you've added a new dimension to it—bringing terrorism into Russia and China and activating domestic terrorist groups within those countries.

I have always seen US withdrawal as a strategic move to put Iran on their toes.

But I often wonder if sacrificing one of the few democracies in the Middle East just to fight iran is worth it but with this new dimension and revelation, I think its worth it, at least for the Americans who doesn't understand friendship and what it entails but their self interest.

Dybala11:
I don't dispute the fact that Russia, China and the Talibans have their differences. I only made a submission that it is highly likely that they can come together solely to oppose the U.S and the West in general, which is an objective that they all have in common. The common point between China and Russia is their opposition to the U.S, the two of them can still pull their resources together to pose a significant threat to the U.S. Also, they can come to a sort of understanding or arrangement with the Taliban, such that they can "aid the effort of the Talibans and other terrorist groups against the U.S". This is the assertion that I've been making in my comments, even the U.S is wary that terrorist attacks against mainland U.S and it's interest can now be easily staged from Afghanistan. The ideology is that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

lol you want to know the truth? They don't hate themselves that much to start sending terrorists to each other. Russia won't even dare do that to America. Lol study international politics well.

DashingRush:
I don't think this is right.

From U.S body language you could see they are aligning with Taliban to fight Iran. Everything playing out is "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" scenario.

You mean that the U.S made a secret deal with the Taliban to withdraw from Afghanistan??
Anything is possible sha, international politics is one funny and complex wahala. Iran has surely gotten another enemy now, the battles of the Shittes and the Sunnis.

Dybala11:
You mean that the U.S made a secret deal with the Taliban to withdraw from Afghanistan??
Anything is possible sha, international politics is one funny and complex wahala. Iran has surely gotten another enemy now, the battles of the Shittes and the Sunnis.

U.S made a deal with Taliban and we don't know all the details. The way U.S withdrew from the Bagram Air Base leave nothing tp be admired. They left at night without prepping the Afghan forces.

Iran is Taliban biggest enemy and U.S surely activated for the purpose. Only time will tell

sketcherJ:
lol you want to know the truth? They don't hate themselves that much to start sending terrorists to each other. Russia won't even dare do that to America. Lol study international politics well.

Really??

Do you know that the U.S.S.R was an ally of Germany before Nazi Germany invaded Stalingrad, the Germans even came within some kilometers from Moscow. Even after the World war 2, the immediate fear of the West is that Russia may gain influence, over Asia and some parts of Europe. Imagine that being their immediate concern after winning the war against Nazi Germany. The tension between the U.S and the most powerful remnant of U.S.S.R (Russia) as not reduce since then. They've remained oppositions and are not allies. On whether either of them will be bold enough to aid terrorist campaigns against each other is a different ball game entirely sha.

vRendoh:
Islam is over 70% in the west. Majority of yoruba are Moslem. They will prefer to join a Islamic North Nigeria.

They won't dare make such mistake!!!
Yorbuba muslims aren't extremist

bigpriik:
And you think the south can do all these without being independent?
I wonder how una take dey think,one Nigerianist dey shock..

There will be nothing called Nigeria once terrorist seize control of Abuja. It will be a matter of each governors taking control of the various army installations in their states and we can strategies from there.

But on a serious note the president is well secured. I will start taking Boko Haram serious if they execute a sitting governor.

DashingRush:
U.S made a deal with Taliban and we don't know all the details. The way U.S withdrew from the Bagram Air Base leave nothing tp be admired. They left at night without prepping the Afghan forces.

Iran is Taliban biggest enemy and U.S surely activated for the purpose. Only time will tell

Yes that could be part.
Because the Iranians have closed their diplomatic houses in Kandahar and other cities there and have reduced their staffs in Kabul. The Turks are still in Afghanistan and are not running away. I think its a war of the Sunnis and Shiite.

WaffenSS:
If the north falls to terrorists, what makes you think they won't invade the south?

That's what we are saying.

Naptu2

How do you know the person behind any moniker? How do you know when same person is using more than one moniker on Nairaland?

tensazangetsu20:
I was watching a documentary today on CNN about the Talibans capture of a major city in Afghanistan. The first thing they did was to get all girls from age 12 and above for the commanders and various members to get married to and it got me thinking. The Taliban and the various terror groups in the north all share the same ideology. No amount of weapons or super intelligence can defeat this guys. I mean the USA poured in over 20 billion dollars in Afghanistan. Sent in high end weapons, trained the Afghan troops yet they still lost the war. 20 years gone, thousands of Americans dead and the war was lost.

If a whole America couldn't defeat the Taliban what is the fate of the Nigerian army in winning the boko haram war. They are even recruited into the same army and people in the south are just sitting down. Whether people like it or not. Those guys will take over the north and when they do what happens to the south. I mean people make a lot of noise on social media but we all know southern tribes aren't used to wars or warrior like in nature compared to the north that has known and fought all kinds of wars. Even if the country divides as people want it to. Will independent southern nations have the resources to fight the terror groups in the north. With Afghanistan under taliban control it will become a training and funding ground for all forms of terror group.

I have always predicted southern Nigeria to be like congo or Liberia in the future but with what's going on in the north it might be much worst than Afghanistan and Yemen put together.

GOD is greater than all and will defeat them in Nigeria and anywhere. I reject your doom's day view for my Country Nigeria in JESUS name, amen. My GOD Will help Nigeria

Dybala11:
You mean ISIS are Christians?? Oh boy.

ISIS are sponsored by the US and NATO and us and NATO are Christain countries.

bro forget oooo..... one on one the fulanis cannot withstand the igbos ....the igbos are too intelligent and wise.