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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 12:18am On Aug 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
Martial/Rashford - Sancho - Greenwood behind Cavani won't work abi? You guys see all the possibilities with City but turn blind when looking at your own team...

Ole is criticized here most times because he doesn't make good use of his squad, pray tell, if the squad is devoid of quality, why the criticism? It shows majority on these board acknowledge the quality I our ranks that's why they expect Ole to use the squad more rather than stick to a preferred 11...

I like how you sneaked in Martial there grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 12:20am On Aug 22, 2021
nitrogen:


What do you mean we don’t have a keeper? Geez! De Gea and Henderson nko? Who is Emerson? Because he’s won trophies under a manager that is very good?

Nawa o!
grin grin
If it was about that, Joe Hart would have been first choice(afterall, he was first choice for pre Pep city nd they won trophies too) while Bravo would have deputised for him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 12:20am On Aug 22, 2021
chidexxy007:

Square peg, round holes.
Na you go still come here come rant. grin

Not like it's something they haven't tried before though.

Pogba that we were buying players to unlock for the AM role grin

He’s best as a CM. He plays AM too but not like Bruno or KDB or Graelish will. Dude is too slow.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:22am On Aug 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
Lol He is trying to overrated the squad quality just so he doesn't give prop to Ole...Isn't that line a pointer that you're for Ole?

Kindly rate our defense, midfield and attack compared to City...

He wont he will run away. Our defence is clearly better than every team in the league even our attack. Liverpool is bleeping used Keita, Henderson and Elliott today, last week he used Milner and OX and Keita, next week might be Curtis Jones and Fabinho. That's a quality manager, how old is Milner, how old is Henderson, yet they are making rubbish excuses with 33 year old Matic. I haven't see Liverpool players complaining of depth, Robertson got injured Klopp brought in Tsimikas without moaning endlessly.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:23am On Aug 22, 2021
TheLequte:


It’s as if you read to attack, not to understand.

So you’ll take Rashford and James at RWF over Silva and Foden? And if Rashford is already at LWF, how’s he playing at RWF.

You’re picking pieces to prove a narrative.

If you take a holistic look at the whole picture, your position will be different.

Having said that, City just about edges United in attack. It’s almost the same squad strength. And United also just about edges City in defense. It’s about the same thing. The midfield is where the gulf is. Cos City has quite a lot of players who can give a decent performance there. United don’t. That’s why there’s a gulf there.

Also, I don’t see you having a problem with United being slightly better than City in defense but look at you viciously fighting the same conclusion at the other end.

And also- United just bought Sancho and Varane to close the gap/get a little bit forward in attack and defense.

If you have a logical objection against the methods or want to rate some players differently, you can. You will still arrive at the same conclusions.
You didn't see Foden at LWF abi? Or you just like undermining your players? I'll take Rashford across the front 3 position over Silva...

What I want you to understand is that at worst, we would do with Rashford on the RWF position if Sancho and Greenwood are unavailable...For City, away from Mahrez and to a lesser extent Sterling, no other player in their ranks will out perform Rashford as a RWF...

How do they edge us in attack? I'll take Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, Sancho, Cavani, James over Grealish, Sterling, Torres, Silva, Foden and Jesus any day, any time..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:24am On Aug 22, 2021
We should just sell Old Trafford and use the proceeds to buy another 5-6 world class players at 100m each. We borrow grounds every match day to play our games.

Maybe that’s when the fans will be satisfied. We need to ship in better forwards and midfielders.

The same thing happened at Chelsea when Lampard was there. They said there was no depth and quality. The same team won the UCL (beating City in the final).

Let us continue!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 12:25am On Aug 22, 2021
chidexxy007:

grin grin
If it was about that, Joe Hart would have been first choice(afterall, he was first choice for pre Pep city nd they won trophies too) while Bravo would have deputised for him.

Ederson is the best GK in Manchester with the ball at his feet. He can is an outlet to relieve pressure from the opponent and won’t hit it route 1 when pressed.

He can pick out a teammate in midfield in this situation.

You cannot do that with De Gea. Henderson is better than De Gea in this regard but he’s not as good as Ederson.

Shot stopping skills, De Gea has really regressed but you can say he’s still better than Ederson in that regard. However the difference in quality in that regard is not very much. Same with Henderson.

Do you disagree with all these?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:25am On Aug 22, 2021
TheLequte:


Pogba that we were buying players to unlock for the AM role grin

He’s best as a CM. He plays AM too but not like Bruno or KDB or Graelish will. Dude is too slow.
What has Grealdone to be compared to Pogba in any role? Grealish is good with the ball at his feet but he is not a threat to the opposition in most cases...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:26am On Aug 22, 2021
chidexxy007:

grin grin
If it was about that, Joe Hart would have been first choice(afterall, he was first choice for pre Pep city nd they won trophies too) while Bravo would have deputised for him.

So why do you think that Ederson is better than DDG and Henderson? I don’t understand. Clean sheet?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 12:26am On Aug 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
You didn't see Foden at LWF abi? Or you just like undermining your players? I'll take Rashford across the front 3 position over Silva...

What I want you to understand is that at worst, we would do with Rashford on the RWF position if Sancho and Greenwood are unavailable...For City, away from Mahrez and to a lesser extent Sterling, no other player in their ranks will out perform Rashford as a RWF...

How do they edge us in attack? I'll take Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, Sancho, Cavani, James over Grealish, Sterling, Torres, Silva, Foden and Jesus any day, any time..

LooL. Okay sir.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 12:27am On Aug 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
What has Grealdone to be compared to Pogba in any role? Grealish is good with the ball at his feet but he is not a threat to the opposition in most cases...

Patrick you should stop now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:28am On Aug 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
Gbam!
I don't know why this is too hard to understand. Pep doesn't exactly do like for like substitutions in some areas, why are we expecting same for our team?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:28am On Aug 22, 2021
adebayo201:


Not your coach?? grin cheesy grin
I don't know him angry

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:31am On Aug 22, 2021
chidexxy007:

Lol

AWB to Dalot compared to Walker to Cancelo?

Shaw to Telles is worse that Zichenko to Mendy

We don't have Goalkeeper right now.

Mahrez to Silva is not much drop in quality compared to Rashford/Martial to James.
Maguire to Bailly = Dias to Ake

Whilst Greenwood is better, he is still young and quite inexperienced. Why is Pep hesitating to play Liam Delap more often?
Telles is better than Mendy...

De Gea = Ederson...Watch City often before arguing or check the stats (Errors leading to goal)...

They're better at LB, I have acknowledged that but we are better at RCB, LCB and LB...

Greenwood is miles ahead of anything City Hass in their CF position...

Why are not you talking Rashford to Martial but rather Rashford/Martial to James? That's 3 players there...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:32am On Aug 22, 2021
eph12:

I don't know why this is too hard to understand. Pep doesn't exactly do like for like substitutions in some areas, why are we expecting same for our team?
Most of them arguing only watch Manchester United games that's why someone will come here to say it's Bruno or we're done for...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:33am On Aug 22, 2021
TheLequte:


Patrick you should stop now.
Should we compare Grealish to Pogba?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:33am On Aug 22, 2021
TheLequte:


Over the course of a season when players get injured, lose form or become fatigued, it will be obvious.

Remember when McTom (and Pogba) got injured and we had to make do with Pereira in midfield? Thank God those days are gone. We now have Fred grin

Over the course of the season Ole should use VDB and Matic to supplement. Last week Klopp used Ox and Milner, this week he changed it to Elliot and Henderson, next week expect to see Thiago and Curtis Jones or Fabinho. Why wont Ole use Fred and Mctoms this week, next week Mctoms and pogba, next VDB and Fred, another week Matic and Pogba thats how to keep the team ticking over the season thats where the managers acumen comes in. You are saying the quality will drop because the manager is sticking to a rule book and not tweeking anything week in week out. This is now a tired excuse are you saying for Ole to win anything he must have 22 world class players?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:37am On Aug 22, 2021
Oasis007:
Do we really need to arguing this matter at all? Man City Squad Depth is far superior to ours. This is a fact, very clear for everyone to see.

If the Argument is on Liverpool or Chelsea Squad Depth, it's debatable, but Man City? Make una dey calm down abegi.
If we've not bottled some semi finals and finals in recent years, you won't be saying this. And we all know why these matches were bottled
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:38am On Aug 22, 2021
CapitalCee:


Over the course of the season Ole should use VDB and Matic to supplement. Last week Klopp used Ox and Milner, this week he changed it to Elliot and Henderson, next week expect to see Thiago and Curtis Jones or Fabinho. Why wont Ole use Fred and Mctoms this week, next week Mctoms and pogba, next VDB and Fred, another week Matic and Pogba thats how to keep the team ticking over the season thats where the managers acumen comes in. You are saying the quality will drop because the manager is sticking to a rule book and not tweeking anything week in week out. This is now a tired excuse are you saying for Ole to win anything he must have 22 world class players?
I have asked them if Liverpool had a better team than City when they won the league but up until this moment, no response from them...

Was Wijnaldum better than KDB?

Was Firmino better than Aguero?

Was Henderson better than Gundogan?

Was Fabinho better than Fernandinho?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:38am On Aug 22, 2021
nitrogen:


Absolutely ridiculous. Just watch them come out later to say that they don’t care if Ole is the manager or not, acting like saints and neutrals, when infact (deep within themselves) they have no faith in the manager to the needful.

Just doesn’t make sense.

They are all sentimental olesexuals and nothing else, they should be bold and admit it kowai. No team need 22 world class players to win Caraboa Cup or Europa league. How can any sane person come out boldly to opine that this utd team lacks depth. A team with Cavani, Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood and Martial in Attack with 3 (Shaw, Varane and Maguire) of the back four world class. May be Glazers have to give Ole the team of the Century with Delima, Zidane, Cafu, Carlos, Buffon, Messi, CR7, Vidic etc to win Caraboa cup
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:39am On Aug 22, 2021
Oasis007:
Do we really need to arguing this matter at all? Man City Squad Depth is far superior to ours. This is a fact, very clear for everyone to see.

If the Argument is on Liverpool or Chelsea Squad Depth, it's debatable, but Man City? Make una dey calm down abegi.
Point it out let's see...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:40am On Aug 22, 2021
chidexxy007:

Lol

AWB to Dalot compared to Walker to Cancelo?

Shaw to Telles is worse that Zichenko to Mendy

We don't have Goalkeeper right now.

Mahrez to Silva is not much drop in quality compared to Rashford/Martial to James.
Maguire to Bailly = Dias to Ake

Whilst Greenwood is better, he is still young and quite inexperienced. Why is Pep hesitating to play Liam Delap more often?
It should be Mahrez/Silva to Delap since Martial and Rashford have become one player na

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:41am On Aug 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
He has picked that position to argue all day like that's the only area of concern...Ask him about the RCB, LB, CF and he goes mute...

Like I said, Olesexuals are shameless, last season they complained all season how we are bad in CB position and how we failed to buy Sancho, now Sancho and Varane are here, they jumped to CDM, get a CDM now they will switch to Goal keeper or they will switch to Assistant Manager. All in the bid manufacture an excuse

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:43am On Aug 22, 2021
TheLequte:


Ederson is the best GK in Manchester with the ball at his feet. He can is an outlet to relieve pressure from the opponent and won’t hit it route 1 when pressed.

He can pick out a teammate in midfield in this situation.

You cannot do that with De Gea. Henderson is better than De Gea in this regard but he’s not as good as Ederson.

Shot stopping skills, De Gea has really regressed but you can say he’s still better than Ederson in that regard. However the difference in quality in that regard is not very much. Same with Henderson.

Do you disagree with all these?
I haven't checked, but did you consider the amount and quality of saves both sides have to make per game?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:43am On Aug 22, 2021
If Pep stuck to playing a midfield of Rodri, Gundogan and KDB, will any of you ever imagine that Silva and Foden can slot in as CMs?

Yesterday, Jesus played as RWF while Torres occupied a more central position...Can Ole try such?

Pep is a mad man, he tries out his players at different positions, something Ole can never do...Even resting players for others who play the same position na wahala...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:44am On Aug 22, 2021
chidexxy007:

Lol

AWB to Dalot compared to Walker to Cancelo?

Shaw to Telles is worse that Zichenko to Mendy

We don't have Goalkeeper right now.

Mahrez to Silva is not much drop in quality compared to Rashford/Martial to James.
Maguire to Bailly = Dias to Ake

Whilst Greenwood is better, he is still young and quite inexperienced. Why is Pep hesitating to play Liam Delap more often?

So we are moving from Mahrez to Silva, but its Rashford/Martial to James, why are you combining them. Why not Mahrez/Silva to Edozie.all in the bid to trash the squad
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:45am On Aug 22, 2021
eph12:

It should be Mahrez/Silva to Delap since Martial and Rashford have become one player na
You sef see am...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:46am On Aug 22, 2021
CapitalCee:


That doesn't render the fact that UTD squad is star studded untrue. Why do you keep hammering on a single position as if games are solely won on who has the better DM, you guys make it sound as if Fred and Mctoms are Sunday league standards. It is very ridiculous that you will quickly rush to downplay the quality of the team so as to shield the manager from upping his game. No team in the EPL has the quality of players utd have in defence. Utd attack is better than everyone else, Bruno is literally the best AM in the league with no question and a generational talent Sancho has just been added. What's with all these back and forth?

Lmaoooo Another one.

Nitrogen has said his own. You too.

Keep the bias coming.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:46am On Aug 22, 2021
CapitalCee:


So we are moving from Mahrez to Silva, but its Rashford/Martial to James, why are you combining them. Why not Mahrez/Silva to Edozie.all in the bid to trash the squad
Anything to undermine the quality in our ranks...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:47am On Aug 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
Most of them arguing only watch Manchester United games that's why someone will come here to say it's Bruno or we're done for...
We have Sancho that should be able to play that role very well now sef. I don't know what the problem is.

With Bruno out, we can switch formation and tactics and still get very good results against most teams in the EPL. This shouldn't be up for debate. What's this madness about DM sef?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:47am On Aug 22, 2021
chidexxy007:

I feel he knows it but just doesn't want to admit because it will seem like giving Ole an already made excuse should he fail.

Everything is about Ole you know.

Mentioned this thing earlier. That’s the root of all these biased yarns.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:48am On Aug 22, 2021
odizeey:


They are just dwelling on DM.

Omo e weak me

Olesexuals can be shameless. Buy a DM now the problem will switch to Goal keeper. One have started complaining of Goal keeper now, may be thats the area of another complia. Fred that starts for Brazil ahead of Fabinho is rubbish and trash and cant match up to Rodri/Fernadinho(36 years), and for this reason there is a gulf in class between City and United

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