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Workch:
So why haven’t they proven it’s consistency by allow people to test it. Those are claims that hasn’t been tested and hence can’t be called evidence
just go and win one of the multimillion dollar bounties?

How can you actually "test" anything when you don't know the true nature of things. Prove to me that you exist. You can't even do that. Bottom line, everything is an approximation, preponderance of evidence. Don’t scapegoat religion because everything you think you know for sure is also susceptible to doubt!

Hismasterpiece:
Ogbeni answer my question jare

Why?

Have you answered any question of mine?

Just provide evidence for god and stop trying to argue endlessly.

Workch:
I didn’t present atheism as a panacea for all life problems, you misconstrued my stance.
There’s never a time when atheism is going the only solution to the global problems. I only mentioned advantages of being an atheist over theism.

I think you shouldn’t have replied my post in a haste.

You didn't present it has a solution to all of live problems. But when your audience are people who are looking in that direction, what do you expect?

In any case, I rather you addressed the things I said against your seeming advantage you claim you have over the theist. I said they don't exist.

Atheist experience even far more worries which I mentioned.

They are not mentally free as you think.

They are not free from biases and can also suffer from cognitive dissonance.

You have not disproven any of those and so where is the advantage?

Workch:
How do you think I don’t know the true nature of reality when even every illiterate in villages have the default setting of accepting god?

People in the hinterland who don’t even know basic biology think like you that gods exist. I think you should check you definition if reality

Kids who can’t even think for themselves think gods exist. How is that reality?

What is he saying? My friend I mean, you have NO WAY of knowing if reality exists exclusively and entirely inside your head!

FreeIgboho:
What is he saying? My friend I mean, you have NO WAY of knowing if reality exists exclusively and entirely inside your head!

i think you are arguing because you have no evidence.

I won’t accept it if I can’t test it. It’s as simple as that

Workch:
How do you think I don’t know the true nature of reality when even every illiterate in villages have the default setting of accepting god?

People in the hinterland who don’t even know basic biology think like you that gods exist. I think you should check you definition if reality

Kids who can’t even think for themselves think gods exist. How is that reality?

You've still not answered my question about evolution o..

triplechoice:
You didn't present it has a solution to all of live problems. But when your audience are people who are looking in that direction, what do you expect?

In any case, I rather you addressed the things I said against your seeming advantage you claim you have over the theist. I said they don't exist.

Atheist experience even far more worries which I mentioned.

They are not mentally free as you think.

They are not free from biases and can also suffer from cognitive dissonance.

You have not disproven any of those and so where is the advantage?

The thread wasn’t mean to disprove anything.

Are you following at all?

Calm down and don’t be in a haste to reply

FreeIgboho:
How can you actually "test" anything when you don't know the true nature of things. Prove to me that you exist. You can't even do that. Bottom line, everything is an approximation, preponderance of evidence. Don’t scapegoat religion because everything you think you know for sure is also susceptible to doubt!

It doesn’t exist, you are just trying to cover it because you dogmatic and don’t like evidence

Hismasterpiece:
You've still not answered my question about evolution o..

You are scientifically illiterate, that’s why I won’t discusss Science with you.

If you have any thing you want to know about evidence I can teach you. Don’t come and ask bogus questions like someone that didn’t pass elementary science.

Workch:
i think you are arguing because you have no evidence.

I won’t accept it if I can’t test it. It’s as simple as that

So prove to me that you exist outside my head. Prove it to me!

FreeIgboho:
So prove to me that you exist outside my head. Prove it to me!

Even if I don’t, it’s not evidence that your god exist.

Don’t you get it, because A doesn’t exist is not evidence that B does.

Workch:
You are scientifically illiterate, that’s why I won’t discusss Science with you.

If you have any thing you want to know about evidence I can teach you. Don’t come and ask bogus questions like someone that didn’t pass elementary science.

LOL..... You're running away from the question.. Classic atheist move.. Well done.

Hismasterpiece:
LOL..... You're running away from the question.. Classic atheist move.. Well done.

So what if evolution hasn’t been proven, how does that mean your god exist?

Can’t you see why that reasoning doesn’t make any sense?

Workch:
So what if evolution hasn’t been proven, how does that mean you god exist?

Can’t you see why that reasoning doesn’t make any sense?

LOL.. So you agree that evolution is improbable? Hallelujah!

So the next question if not evolution then what is the logical explanation for human existence?

Please educate me

Hismasterpiece:
LOL.. So you agree that evolution is improbable? Hallelujah!

So the next question if not evolution then what is the logical explanation for human existence?

Please educate me

ok, evolution hasn’t been proven and I don’t believe in it.

So how is that a plus for the existence of you imaginary friend?

Why is that not a plus for the existence of unicorns?

Workch:
Even if I don’t, it’s not evidence that your god exist.

Don’t you get it, because A doesn’t exist is not evidence that B does.

You are the one shouting "prove to me that God exists", when in actuality nothing can be proven to exist including you yourself.
Lol, before this talk I bet you thought you knew certain things for sure. Now you have been shown you know nothing for certain.
Everything is approximation and preponderance if evidence. Even the brain u r using to think, you don't know what limitations and defects were intentionally built into it. Bottom line: you know nothing!

FreeIgboho:
You are the one shouting "prove to me that God exists", when in actuality nothing can be proven to exist including you yourself.
Lol, before this talk I bet you thought you knew certain things for sure. Now you have been shown you know nothing for certain.
Everything is approximation and preponderance if evidence. Even the brain u r using to think, you don't know what limitations and defects were intentionally built into it. Bottom line: you know nothing!

Ok, I don’t exist.

How does that prove that Unicorns exist?

That’s how your reasoning sounds like

Workch:
ok, evolution hasn’t been proven and I don’t believe in it.

So how is that a plus for the existence of you imaginary friend?

Why is that not a plus for the existence of unicorns?

There is nothing to prove when it is already proven that things do not create their own selves.

Workch:
ok, evolution hasn’t been proven and I don’t believe in it.

So how is that a plus for the existence of you imaginary friend?

Why is that not a plus for the existence of unicorns?

Why don't you believe in evolution that is perfectly logical and has evidence to support it. Are you saying that when the universe was born human beings existed?

FreeIgboho:
Why don't you believe in evolution that is perfectly logical and has evidence to support it. Are you saying that when the universe was born human beings existed?

Whether or not I believe in evolution is still not evidence that unicorn and your god exist. You still have to provide evidence for your god if not it doesn’t exist

That’s the point

Workch:
Ok, I don’t exist.

How does that prove that Unicorns exist?

That’s how your reasoning sounds like

Point is, you can't be selectively asking for proof. Everything is based on approximation and preponderance of circumstantial evidence. There is no circumstantial evidence that unicorns exist or flying spaghetti monster

Workch:
Whether or not I believe in evolution is still not evidence that unicorn and your god exist. You still have to provide evidence for your god if not it doesn’t exist

That’s the point

See above

Workch:
ok, evolution hasn’t been proven and I don’t believe in it.

So how is that a plus for the existence of you imaginary friend?

Why is that not a plus for the existence of unicorns?

Ah! Why are you contradicting yourself?

I thought you said that evolution had evidence?

I think you may be confused.

Just admit you're an agnostic and say you don't know for sure rather than say you don't believe and yet can't back up your belief.

A001:
Your position looks agnostic.

I try not to hold on to any position. My position is no position.

I try to view live from all angles so as to have a complete understanding of it.. Not easy to understand life completely.

My guiding philosophy is based on China Achebe's saying in Things Fall Apart where he said, ( not sure of the exact quote now)

That the world is like a dancing masquerade dancing . If you want to enjoy ( understand) the show , you don't stand in one position.

FreeIgboho:
Point is, you can't be selectively asking for proof. Everything is based on approximation and preponderance of circumstantial evidence. There is no circumstantial evidence that unicorns exist or flying spaghetti monster

Do you agree that your god was created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

Hismasterpiece:
Ah! Why are you contradicting yourself?

I thought you said that evolution had evidence?

I think you may be confused.

Just admit you're an agnostic and say you don't know for sure rather than say you don't believe and yet can't back up your belief.

ok, you convinced me and I agree with you that evolution hasn’t been proven, so how does that become an evidence for your god?

Workch:
The thread wasn’t mean to disprove anything.

Are you following at all?

Calm down and don’t be in a haste to reply

I responded to your post my friend. Cut the crap of hasty reply and take responsibility of what you ignited

Modified. Let the conversation follow in line of the advantages you listed. That's my only interest. Nothing else

triplechoice:
I responded to your post my friend. Cut the crap of hasty reply and take responsibility of what you ignited

Why are you agitated?

Workch:
Do you agree that your god was created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

So now you've been educated. I know u thought u were this logical and intellectual atheist. Now you've been taught u know NOTHING.
The same preponderance of circumstantial evidence that establishes your existence also establishes the existence of God. Neither of you can be proven for certain.
Now u know.
Ciao!

Workch:
ok, evolution hasn’t been proven and I don’t believe in it.

So how is that a plus for the existence of you imaginary friend?

Why is that not a plus for the existence of unicorns?

I told you of my experience in the night some years back.. Which I still can't forget till this day... That experience alerted me to the fact that there are people among us whom we can't see.

As for proving the existence of God... It doesn't need to be proven... I don't need to ascend to heaven and take a selfie with God to prove He exists..

God doesn't need proof... It already is obvious.. Look at creation.. Look at the stars.. Look at the sky.. Ponder on the vastness of the universe.. Look at yourself.. Everything screams intelligent design.. There has to be a God...

The logical question isn't whether there is a God or not but rather... Since there is a God, then what is the right way to Him? Is it Islam? Buddhism? Hinduism? Christianity?

If you can come down to that plane then we can have a sweet discussion

FreeIgboho:
So now you've been educated. I know u thought u were this logical and intellectual atheist. Now you've been taught u know NOTHING.
The same preponderance of circumstantial evidence that establishes your existence also establishes the existence of God. Neither of you can be proven for certain.
Now u know.
Ciao!

seriously I know nothing, I agree.

But I believe that your god was created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Do you agree?

Hismasterpiece:
I told you of my experience in the night some years back.. Which I still can't forget till this day... That experience alerted me to the fact that there are people among us whom we can't see.

As for proving the existence of God... It doesn't need to be proven... I don't need to ascend to heaven and take a selfie with God to prove He exists..

God doesn't need proof... It already is obvious.. Look at creation.. Look at the stars.. Look at the sky.. Ponder on the vastness of the universe.. Look at yourself.. Everything screams intelligent design.. There has to be a God...

The logical question isn't whether there is a God or not but rather... Since there is a God, then what is the right way to Him? Is it Islam? Buddhism? Hinduism? Christianity?

If you can come down to that plane then we can have a sweet discussion

How can you prove that your experience that night wasn’t facilitated by he Flying Spaghetti Monster?