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Workch:
Why are you agitated?

Stop this psychological gimmick. I not that kind of person.

Good day

Workch:
seriously I know nothing, I agree.

But I believe that your god was created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Do you agree?

You can believe whatever you like. Question is, is there circumstantial or experiential evidence to support it

FreeIgboho:
You can believe whatever you like. Question is, is there circumstantial or experiential evidence to support it

Thanks for agreeing that your god is a creation of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

Dtruthspeaker:
Depression is one of the disease that proves you are an enemy of God.

For God is The Owner of Joy and Happiness and one of things that MUST GO AWAY when He turns away from you, is that your former joy will be replaced by emptiness and sorrow.

This post of yours is ill-informed. Depression affects everyone, irrespective of religious beliefs.

However, having beliefs in imaginary things and praying can help religious people cope with depression.

Freethinkers use other coping strategies which are also effective, especially by following the recommendations of psychologists and psychiatrists for tackling the issue.

Hismasterpiece:
I told you of my experience in the night some years back.. Which I still can't forget till this day... That experience alerted me to the fact that there are people among us whom we can't see.

As for proving the existence of God... It doesn't need to be proven... I don't need to ascend to heaven and take a selfie with God to prove He exists..

God doesn't need proof... It already is obvious.. Look at creation.. Look at the stars.. Look at the sky.. Ponder on the vastness of the universe.. Look at yourself.. Everything screams intelligent design.. There has to be a God...

The logical question isn't whether there is a God or not but rather... Since there is a God, then what is the right way to Him? Is it Islam? Buddhism? Hinduism? Christianity?

If you can come down to that plane then we can have a sweet discussion

That your experience in the night doesn't prove anything. It could have been caused by a million things. Even brain neurologist have shown your brain alone can make u feel a touch without stimuli or see someone when no one is there

FreeIgboho:
That your experience in the night doesn't prove anything. It could have been caused by a million things. Even brain neurologist have shown your brain alone can make u feel a touch without stimuli or see someone when no one is there

no, his experience was caused by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

That’s logical enough

Workch:
Thanks for agreeing that your god is a creation of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

You keep referring to my God when I'm trying to have an intellectual discussion. You are just like the ardent religionists - out to defend a viewpoint instead having an open minded discussion

FreeIgboho:
You keep referring to my God when I'm trying to have an intellectual discussion. You are just like the ardent religionists - out to defend a viewpoint instead having an open minded discussion

Is your argument not trying to prove the possibilities of a god?
I have agreed with you but if I am going to agree that any god exist then it has to be the Flying Spaghetti Monster or I can start my own religion by creating my own god.

Does that matter to you?

A001:
This post of yours is ill-informed. Depression affects everyone, irrespective of religious beliefs.

However, having beliefs in imaginary things and praying can help religious people cope with depression.

No it does not affect any who is a True and Obedient follower and lover of God.

And most people are not, including those who claim to love God and call themselves "Christians" but they are no different from you who also call yourselves "I do not think there is God" people.

Depression, Despair, Destruction, Desolation, Disappointnent, (and all the bad "'s" Anguish, Sorrows are the very effects of living away from The Goodness of God.

Workch:
no, his experience was caused by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

That’s logical enough

Do you know it is possible that we create reality with our beliefs. That's how weird things could possibly be.
Quantum physics has show that certain particles exist only when someone is watching!

FreeIgboho:
Do you know it is possible that we create reality with our beliefs. That's how weird things could possibly be.
Quantum physics has show that certain particles exist only when someone is watching!

stop talking about quantum physics, you have no idea what’s going on there. What you are taking about is the double slit experiment on subatomic particles which depends on the observers mode of observation and a lot of lay individuals don’t know how it works. They just think what you see creates your reality.


In other word, I feel like I should create my own god and beliefs so that I can create my own reality. Whenever someone ask me for evidence which is obviously not available, I can tell them that it’s impossible to prove he doesn’t exist.

Workch:
How can you prove that your experience that night wasn’t facilitated by he Flying Spaghetti Monster?

LOL.. You've been embarrassed and now you're turning to jokes..

Anyways..

Lemme ask you this.

If the Bible never spoke against the bad things you love doing (I'm just speculating.. Im not trying to say that you are involved in any of these things) but however..

If the Bible encouraged yahoo yahoo, sleeping with your girlfriend, telling the truth only when convenient, cheating on your wife, hitting back people who hit you, selfishness, etc..

Bottomline if the Bible totally agreed with your lifestyle would you still be agiinst it? If the Bible never challenged your choices would you still be against it?

My personal belief is that you so-called atheists (which I don't think you are.. I think you're an agnostic) don't really disbelieve in the existence of God, but just dislike Him.. Because you don't want to be told what to do by Him.. You want to do your own thing.. That's what I believe..

And this train of thought accords with scripture. If you doubt me I'd show the scriptures to you.

FreeIgboho:
Do you know it is possible that we create reality with our beliefs. That's how weird things could possibly be.
Quantum physics has show that certain particles exist only when someone is watching!

You just keep talking about quantum physics like you know anything about it

Double slit experiment just shows that matter can exist as either wave or particle form depending on how it’s been observed. It doesn’t mean that you create your own reality in actual sense.

Workch:
Is your argument not trying to prove the possibilities of a god?
I have agreed with you but if I am going to agree that any god exist then it has to be the Flying Spaghetti Monster or I can start my own religion by creating my own god.

Does that matter to you?

No, Im.only trying to educate you that we have no way of knowing anything for sure. We go by preponderance of circumstantial evidence, including black holes, dark matter, you yourself. So stop acting like it only applies to "spiritual"!

Hismasterpiece:
LOL.. You've been embarrassed and now you're turning to jokes..

Anyways..

Lemme ask you this.

If the Bible never spoke against the bad things you love doing (I'm just speculating.. Im not trying to say that you are involved in any of these things) but however..

If the Bible encouraged yahoo yahoo, sleeping with your girlfriend, telling the truth only when convenient, cheating on your wife, hitting back people who hit you, selfishness, etc..

Bottomline if the Bible totally agreed with your lifestyle would you still be agiinst it? If the Bible never challenged your choices would you still be against it?

My personal belief is that you so-called atheists (which I don't think you are.. I think you're an agnostic) don't really disbelieve in the existence of God, but just dislike Him.. Because you don't want to be told what to do by Him.. You want to do your own thing.. That's what I believe..

And this train of thought accords with scripture. If you doubt me I'd show the scriptures to you.

please embarrass me more, I am learning a lot from you.

I’m not agnostic, I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster since you convinced me and I think he created Yahweh.

You are so full of wisdom

FreeIgboho:
No, Im.only trying to educate you that we have no way of knowing anything for sure. We go by preponderance of circumstantial evidence, including black holes, dark matter, you yourself. So stop acting like it only applies to "spiritual"!

Ok, since all circumstantial evidence matters then Flying Spaghetti Monster created Yahweh and that’s my circumstantial evidence.

I think all Christians don’t know where Yahweh really come from, Flying Spaghetti Monster sent me to the world to educate Christian on that because he cannot come by himself.

Workch:
You just keep talking about quantum physics like you know anything about it

Double slit experiment just shows that matter can exist as either wave or particle form depending on how it’s been observed. It doesn’t mean that you create your own reality in actual sense.

See below. I keep educating you. You must pay me o

FreeIgboho:
See below. I keep educating you. You must pay me o

its double slit experiment, what kind of half baked illiterate are you?

It’s simple to grasp na, matter can be observed either in particle or wave form depending on the observer or whether or not it’s been observed. Open it and read, every good physics student knows this

Workch:
Ok, since all circumstantial evidence matters then Flying Spaghetti Monster created Yahweh and that’s my circumstantial evidence.

I think all Christians don’t know where Yahweh really come from, Flying Spaghetti Monster sent me to the world to educate Christian on that because he cannot come by himself.

Well it's only you saying it. When there are a billion people saying it then that's circumstantial evidence that allows it could be true, just as circumstantial evidence suggests you exist

FreeIgboho:
See below. I keep educating you. You must pay me o

you think you know a lot while you know nothing.

Stop talking about quantum physics that you know nothing about.

Matter having in double states when observed doesn’t mean that you created any reality in any sense. That’s jargons that your likes who don’t get quantum physics say

Workch:
its double slit experiment, what kind of half baked illiterate are you?

It’s simple to grasp na, matter can be observed either in particle or wave form depending on the observer or whether or not it’s been observed. Open it and read, every good physics student knows this

My friend stop yearning what you don't know. You are talking to a physicist. Read b4 talking

FreeIgboho:
Well it's only you saying it. When there are a billion people saying it then that's circumstantial evidence that allows it could be true, just as circumstantial evidence suggests you exist

Because more people believe in it doesn’t make it true.

Did you even pass philosophy and logic in GST? If you did, were you thought about Argumentum ad populum? (Fallacy Of appealing to crowd or bandwagon effect)?


It’s funny how you think you know a lot and you still make amateur mistakes

FreeIgboho:
My friend stop yearning what you don't know. You are talking to a physicist. Read b4 talking

how come a physicist interprets double slit experiment like a kindergarten?

Workch:
Because more people believe in it doesn’t make it true.

Did you even pass philosophy and logic in GST? If you did, were you thought about Argumentum ad populum? (Fallacy Of appealing to crowd or bandwagon effect)?


It’s funny how you think you know a lot and you still make amateur mistakes

I don't want to call u mumu.
I said everything depends on preponderance of circumstantial evidence. A lot of people believing that thing is part of that evidence - just as that's part of what establishes your existence. Not that it "makes it true". Nothing can be made true. I thought I already drummed that into you

Workch:
You just keep talking about quantum physics like you know anything about it

Double slit experiment just shows that matter can exist as either wave or particle form depending on how it’s been observed. It doesn’t mean that you create your own reality in actual sense.

Wave is not matter. Wave may carry matter particles.

And particles are what is called matter.

Dtruthspeaker:
Wave is not matter. Wave may carry matter particles.

And particles are what is called matter.

lol

FreeIgboho:
I don't want to call u mumu.
I said everything depends on preponderance of circumstantial evidence. A lot of people believing that thing is part of that evidence - just as that's part of what establishes your existence. Not that it "makes it true". Nothing can be made true. I thought I already drummed that into you

Can't the ground under your feet be verified as True?

Workch:
lol

I still have P. N Okeke in my library.

FreeIgboho:
I don't want to call u mumu.
I said everything depends on preponderance of circumstantial evidence. A lot of people believing that thing is part of that evidence - just as that's part of what establishes your existence. Not that it "makes it true". Nothing can be made true. I thought I already drummed that into you

A lot of people believing in things is part of fallacy, it’s not evidence.

150years Ago, majority believed the earth is the center of the universe. It doesn’t mean they were right.

Majority believed that epilepsy is a supernatural attack, it deosnt mean that they were right.

Did you fail philosophy and logic?

Workch:
how come a physicist interprets double slit experiment like a kindergarten?

I am tempted but let me not call u mumu. I said it is possible reality is so weird we could be creating it with our beliefs. I never said quantum physics proves it or any such thing.

Alternative facts are spreading like a virus across society. Now it seems they have even infected science—at least the quantum realm. This may seem counter intuitive. The scientific method is after all founded on the reliable notions of observation, measurement and repeatability. A fact, as established by a measurement, should be objective, such that all observers can agree with it.

But in a paper recently published in Science Advances, we show that in the micro-world of atoms and particles that is governed by the strange rules of quantum mechanics, two different observers are entitled to their own facts. In other words, according to our best theory of the building blocks of nature itself, facts can actually be subjective.

Dtruthspeaker:
I still have P. N Okeke in my library.

So wave is not matter

Nothing wey person no go see for this nairaland

Workch:
A lot of people believing in things is part of fallacy, it’s not evidence.

150years Ago, majority believed the earth is the center of the universe. It doesn’t mean they were right.

Majority believed that epilepsy is a supernatural attack, it deosnt mean that they were right.

Did you fail philosophy and logic?

My friend you keep using the word fallacy. Everything is fallacy, I thought I already drummed that into you. WE DON'T KNOW THE TRUE NATURE OF THINGS!!!
Get that into your head!