Myer:

Now I'm surprised that you claim I'm twisting your words when you yourself said what you said.

According to you, those who seek after Miracles before they can believe are simply fair weather friends right?

Nope! I did not say that! That word "before they can believe" is the error.

For "fair weather friends" are not persons who have regard for their friend, so they never believe in their Friend, unless and until the time they want something.

Which is why Thomas got the comment "it is because you have seen that you believe" whilst we got the Blessings of "Blessed are those who have not seen, yet believe"

All na wash. The bible is full of nonsense stories. A virgin getting pregnant. Fish swallowing somebody for a few days and vomiting the person still alive. A snake and donkey speaking.

Don't mind them.

advanceDNA:


U sleep .and u wake up for this yeye country
But u still dey find miracle...


Guy u no know miracle ooo

He said miracles as of old. There's a difference. Ur submission is funny. Not.

Most of the miracles, if not all, are now found in science and technology

Franking:


He said miracles as of old. There's a difference. Ur submission is funny. Not.

Ok oooo...he should wait for miracles of old..
And not accept miracle of our time and location

Dtruthspeaker:


Nope! I did not say that! That word "before they can believe" is the error.

For "fair weather friends" are not persons who have regard for their friend, so they never believe in their Friend, unless and until the time they want something.

Which is why Thomas got the comment "it is because you have seen that you believe" whilst we got the Blessings of "Blessed are those who have not seen, yet believe"

Did Jesus still oblige Thomas or not?
If Jesus could still oblige him regardless of his unbelief, then nothing stops performing miracles for unbelievers to believe.

Truly it is probably more blessed to believe without the miracles but God definitely made provision of miracles for those who do not believe.

jaxxy:

U ridiculed sm1’s education and Sm1 else Ridiculed urs and u Are complaining and calling it envy?

The advice u gave to workch u should have given to urself 1st.

I did not ridicule his education, I merely expressed my shock.

Workch and I have battled several times with him not being able to validly oppose me so I know why he said what he came to say.

Myer:

Did Jesus still oblige Thomas or not?
If Jesus could still oblige him regardless of his unbelief, then nothing stops performing miracles for unbelievers to believe.

First Lectures in John starts with "Believe". All the gospels commence with teachings and ended with Teachings.

Miracles were in the middle.

Myer:

Truly it is probably more blessed to believe without the miracles but God definitely made provision of miracles for those who do not believe.

Every True Christ Follower knows that Belief In God is greater than Miracles for Belief brings Every Good Thing including miracles however like the man in John 5:14, you can experience a miracle yet, it shall not be well with you, thereafter.

Dtruthspeaker:


First Lectures in John starts with "Believe". All the gospels commence with teachings and ended with Teachings.

Miracles were in the middle.



Every True Christ Follower knows that Belief In God is greater than Miracles for Belief brings Every Good Thing including miracles however like the man in John 5:14, you can experience a miracle yet, it shall not be well with you, thereafter.

You didn't answer the question.

Omooba77:
Why are we not seeing Miracles as of Old?

Because they have ceased... All we have today is faith, hope and love.. 1cor 13

Blakjewelry:

I am more of science guy, I don't crack my head up with idioms, infact I hated them back in school and still do.

It's alright, i respect that. In my time, we did Phy,Chem, Bi with Lit-in-Eng, Govt and Econs up to SS 2.

So I got the best of both worlds

Blakjewelry:

And atheism doesn't mean hatred for God why would I hate what I don't believe in. For your information, I didn't just wake up and said o there is no God, my own case study what people believes, match it history of man and see how far that godhood stands if it same with the old shit been twisted in new light, then I am not buying. My search knowledge had lead me far and I am not backing down. Most of you guys who calls yourselves modern Christian's can't even argue with fact because you don't know the full history of your religion rather you go into attack mode instead an intimidation tactics or rather sometimes to show how spirit filled you think you are, same Thing most pastors feel when they are on the pulpit but not just empty self elevation.

First many claim Christians including those who are called pastors but are not; they are very far from Christ and God does not know them which is why they attack rather than supply a reasonably counter or opposition.

That does not happen with me, it is rather that those so called atheist who have had the unfortunate pain of running against me hate me and attack me because they find that they could not validly and Truly and Reasonably get past me, in any opposition.

So right now you do sound even and reasonable, but when the heat is on, and you guys find that you do not have any valid opposition, then the Hatred for God comes out and you guys start the insults.

So, no, all atheists hate God, that's why they are atheists meaning "Anti-God"!

Myer:


You didn't answer the question.

Your question was not "the question" for it was based on the fact that you were seeking clarity on what I meant by my statement on "fair weather friends"

Maybe in your Church miracles don't happen.
What's the name of your church sir?

Workch:
Are you back from service?

"Service" is Ambiguous as in which service, church or Youth Service.

On church
I don't go to church, not been there in more than 3 years.

On Youth Service
My last kid is 8 years now, so you can guess how long that was.

If you were wondering about my absence, it was because I was watching a movie.

Dtruthspeaker:


Your question was not "the question" for it was based on the fact that you were seeking clarity on what I meant by my statement on "fair weather friends"

Let me ask again since you seem confused.
Did Jesis oblige Thomas or not even after his unbelief?

Dtruthspeaker:


It's alright, i respect that. In my time, we did Phy,Chem, Bi with Lit-in-Eng, Govt and Econs up to SS 2.

So I got the best of both worlds




First many claim Christians including those who are called pastors but are not; they are very far from Christ and God does not know them which is why they attack rather than supply a reasonably counter or opposition.

That does not happen with me, it is rather that those so called atheist who have had the unfortunate pain of running against me hate me and attack me because they find that they could not validly and Truly and Reasonably get past me, in any opposition.

So right now you do sound even and reasonable, but when the heat is on, and you guys find that you do not have any valid opposition, then the Hatred for God comes out and you guys start the insults.

So, no, all atheists hate God, that's why they are atheists meaning "Anti-God"!

First off atheism doesn't mean hatred for God because if that be the case you yourself can be classified as an atheist been that you hate other religions God too, forget whether it is a capital letter or small letter.
Atheism is use to refer to a large set of sub group who do not believe in the existence of God. Somehow I understand were the misunderstanding is coming from. There are those of us who were once Christians or Muslim who through the desire for knowledge and truth lead us to were we are today. Then there is this random group who feels by denying the existence of God gives them the liberty to do whatever they like, I believe it is this group you usually encounter on nairaland on a daily basis.

And talking of insult, check my post on nairaland I don't get involved in that except few cases were some fools just take pleasure in attacking and insulting without provocation, I don't see why a healthy discuss should lead to insult.

aytuns:
Because they have ceased... All we have today is faith, hope and love.. 1cor 13

They have ceased? But wasn't it the same faith that Jesus Christ declared we would move mountains with?

jesusjnr2020:
It's because we're not willing to do what those of old did to be used by God to that degree.

We want anointing but not their suffering.

That said, greater works are surely coming as it was of old, but with greater works come greater condemnation if you don't repent.

So ensure that you don't waste it when you see it.

God bless.

Wrong answer. If u think its ur works that attract miracle u are not even a Christian yet. Or maybe u claim to be a Christian because u were born in a Christian family. There's no man on earth who's works deserves God's miracle. Not even one.

Blakjewelry:

First off atheism doesn't mean hatred for God because if that be the case you yourself can be classified as an atheist been that you hate other religions God too, forget whether it is a capital letter or small letter.

When a person is Pro-Something, then he must be Anti-Something, I understand that real-eyeity.

However, the difference lies in Personal hurts and afflictions.

Thus, as a Christian, my attitude to other religions is one of amusement is so far as their beliefs and practice is not reasonably harmful.

But so called atheist are very unreasonably hate full and spite full of God, especially as most of them were former Christianity Applicants (that's what I call them for they were never Christians though they called themselves so), therefore, I know the different reasons why they became atheists all of which are fueled by the Anger which they had for God, when they thought that they were Christians as they were deceived, whereas, God did not know them.

So, these groups of persons I know very well and they all hate God and they often do confirm it.

Blakjewelry:

And talking of insult, check my post on nairaland I don't get involved in that except few cases were some fools just take pleasure in attacking and insulting without provocation, I don't see why a healthy discuss should lead to insult.

I believe so too, but it is Seen that Truth could is Pain Full to Liars, hence they are unable to bear it even when it is evenly and properly delivered.

Hence the popular statement "Truth is Bitter"!

Myer:


Let me ask again since you seem confused.
Did Jesis oblige Thomas or not even after his unbelief?

Now, you are making it look like you are asking an independent question, whereas, you raised up this question because of my statement on "fair weather friends"

Now in answer, to the question, do you not remember that the Christ Chose the disciples even before they believed on Him?

So Christ chose Thomas first before Thomas believed on Him, so Christ obliging Thomas was already under the earlier cover that He, Christ had chosen Thomas exactly as He obliged the disciples when they told Him that they truly did not understand the meanings of His Parables.

Dtruthspeaker:


Men, you guys do not get good education. The standard has terribly dropped. That explains why you guys become atheist.

My response is based on the idioms "fair weather friends"; "A friend for food" and other friend idioms!.

Have u ever met an atheist that is dull academically. If yes how many?

Blakjewelry:

Lol atheism is found more among the most educated folks than in religious sector, do you know why? Because your brains are dormat from lack of serious excitation. You post some cryptic shit and think you are smart

I bet he doesnt know shit!

Op be careful ooo.... So to survive 4 Naija is it not a enuf miracles and wonders my people mak una judge abeg

KnownUnknown:

Dtruthspeaker is a dumb, ignorant, prideful, incredibly stupid Christian. SOB calls himself a lawyer! The law must be in a sorry state in Nigeria if this is what qualifies as a lawyer.
The above is him displaying his imbecility and dishonesty.

I wrote a bunch of nonsense and he was too stupid to realize that it’s nonsense and too prideful to admit he didn’t understand. Instead, he claimed to understand. He claimed to understand nonsense!

So anyone talking to him, keep in mind the type of demented ignorant character you’re dealing with.

See great pain, so much so that you can not recover

The Word of God cuts down all evil souls!

God never promised that the miracles will exceed the generation of Jews who walked with Jesus of Nazareth! Matthew 15:24
After the death of the last Jewish confidant of Jesus named "Apostle John" who penned down the last Bible book (Revelations) all spiritual GIFTS will cease to occur until God's Kingdom come! 1Corinthians 13:8-10
So all those expecting miracles in any land outside Israel afterwards are just deceiving themselves because it's demons that will start operating afterwards! Revelations 16:14

Omooba77:

Why are we not seeing Miracles as of Old?

AntiChristian:
Miracles can be done by almost everyone nowadays.

False prophets, Babalawo alfa/pastors, babalawo/dibia,...

you stylishly avoided malams, the Terrorists that perform miracle with bombs.

Imagine the miracle they performed at Kabul airport and millions of people disappear.

Miracles still do happen just that we live in a world run by devil worshippers some of whom own the major media houses whose duty is to deny anything about the reality of the most high but thrive very well in spreading negativities on a daily basis. The activities of fake pastors has also helped in doubting the existence of genuine miracles. But know it that God is still in the business of doing his wonders but only in the lives of his people and on those he decides to shower his mercies upon despite not knowing him.

makavelli80:
Have u ever met an atheist that is dull academically. If yes how many?

So called atheist paid attention to academics because they observed that their enemies, the Christians did not pay good attention to knowledge, for they were not expecting to be attacked, so Christians did not appreciate the value of knowledge.

So that's why atheists began to read and do well academically.

Because they were not miracles but stand up comedy.
They were fake miracles, people can't be fooled again.

Dtruthspeaker:


So called atheist paid attention to academics because they observed that their enemies, the Christians did not pay good attention to knowledge, for they were not expecting to be attacked, so Christians did not appreciate the value of knowledge.

So that's why atheists began to read and do well academically.

wrong!

makavelli80:
Have u ever met an atheist that is dull academically. If yes how many?

I have a bunch of them as friends actually.

Being an atheist has little or nothing to do with academic prowess.

Keyword being when.

Lollittaa:
Because the church is snoring. When we wake, there will be a revival and miracles will follow, like the old days.