Segedinho:

You came into my mentions with kingalabi.

Maybe u didn't start from the start

You mentioned me first, I hope you know?

What I saw in today's match

1. One would wonder if it was the same team that played Leeds two weeks ago that played Southampton and Wolves. There seems to be only one player that has missed the last two games and that is McTominay. This guy seems highly underrated by fans.

2. The first game, it looked like we have a playing system. Todayäs game we looked like we have no playing system until the last quarter when the players slowed the game down.

3. Forward players were not making movements today, thereby giving fewer passing options and forcing the passers to make mistakes.

4. With a new player (Sancho), there was a little lack of understanding of one another. Having James on the other side made it worse. Cohesion was lacking.

5. The DM was a problem today and the last game. But the pairing was also a problem. I think McTominay and Fred should fight for that position for now, and whoever is pairing with them should trust them enough to play ahead of them instead of on a parallel line with them. This was the case of Matic and Pogba. The problem with these two is lack of pace. McTominay would easily leave Fred behind and can return quickly if there is a problem. Vice versa ....
But I think McTominay looks like the guy who will get the role at the end.

CapitalCee:


Fred was so determined to gift Wolves an opening goal all first half. Neves and Moutinho outthought him throughout the game

Fred, Pogba and Bruno in the midfield. What did the others do to steady the midfield aside losing balls?

melodyogonna:

Lmao, setups people dey bring here dey make me question weda they watch Man Utd games

Like after all we've been through

Like I said two days ago, that double pivot is very important, especially against difficult opponents. Pogba should not be in that double pivot position. There are no benefits in putting him there

At a time when Wolves were all over our midfield, being physical and all, the team could have done better to keep the ball and pass around, making wolves team tire out and frustrated. But they were always in a hurry to get forward, losing the ball easily.

What exactly is Bruno's role in the midfield?

eph12:

Fred, Pogba and Bruno in the midfield. What did the others do to steady the midfield aside losing balls?

Pogba could not get a foothold on the midfield however, he cannot account for a launched clearance from wolves which Fred could not control under absolutely no pressure, he simply cannot find his man, he cant recieve any ball passed to him, he was out of sync with the game entirely, ok mark kwanu, no way Neves and Moutinho were running rings over him, bypassing him like he os not there. I am not exonerating others of blame but Pogba recieves balls finds his man well and better even under pressure. For example Our game Vs Villareal it was Pogba/Mctominay pivot, they did not overunn our midfield infact Mctominay was our MOTM.

eph12:
At a time when Wolves were all over our midfield, being physical and all, the team could have done better to keep the ball and pass around, making wolves team tire out and frustrated. But they were always in a hurry to get forward, losing the ball easily.

What exactly is Bruno's role in the midfield?

This one fit drag anybody because of Fred

elampiro:


I think the rest of the team and coach should have the trust that whoever is playing DM, has the ability to do the job. It's when Pogba decided to shift to final third and Fred was left alone that we began to play well in the last quarter of the game. If Pogba had remained there with Fred, not trusting him to do well by himself, we would not have won.

Another perspective...I noticed we improved too and thought to myself that maybe Ole told the players to relax and keep the ball more...

Expert17:


This one fit drag anybody because of Fred

E shock you?

patrickmuf:
Another perspective...I noticed we improved too and thought to myself that maybe Ole told the players to relax and keep the ball more...

Trincao and Traore especially got tired in the 2nd half as well and that allowed us some space to breath. Another thing was AWB giving Traore some breathing space rather than rushing towards him rashly like he was doing in the first half.

Traore prefers you to rush him or close mark him so he can roll you or outmuscle you and then leave you behind. That is why i liked the way Varane was holding him off and marking the space rather than rushing to make a tackle.

eph12:
At a time when Wolves were all over our midfield, being physical and all, the team could have done better to keep the ball and pass around, making wolves team tire out and frustrated. But they were always in a hurry to get forward, losing the ball easily.

What exactly is Bruno's role in the midfield?

Bruno is an ultra attacking midfielder, there are already 4 defenders and a double pivot already, remember James was there to track Traore, even Ole confirmed it. We are left with Greenwood, sancho and Bruno to press wolves and find a goal and the team needs goal, why will Bruno drop back to join the midfield combat? Are we playing for a 0-0? Even Sancho had an offday and Greenwood is only a boy, Bruno must chop that space between the wolves CB to score, and he nearly did. The issue is Pogba was not combative and disciplined enough to cover for Fred clumsiness. I know you will say i am trying to make excuses for Bruno, but Bruno was like the CF/SS in that match and at 0-0 he is the person Ole is banking on to fashion out a goal, i dont see why Neves/Moutinho should overun Fred and Pogba that Bruno must have to come and help them. Mctominay will bravely engage them easily to a stand still.

eph12:
At a time when Wolves were all over our midfield, being physical and all, the team could have done better to keep the ball and pass around, making wolves team tire out and frustrated. But they were always in a hurry to get forward, losing the ball easily.

What exactly is Bruno's role in the midfield?

We will have to talk about Bruno away from his goals and assist at some point...

elampiro:
What I saw in today's match

1. One would wonder if it was the same team that played Leeds two weeks ago that played Southampton and Wolves. There seems to be only one player that has missed the last two games and that is McTominay. This guy seems highly underrated by fans.

2. The first game, it looked like we have a playing system. Todayäs game we looked like we have no playing system until the last quarter when the players slowed the game down.

3. Forward players were not making movements today, thereby giving fewer passing options and forcing the passers to make mistakes.

4. With a new player (Sancho), there was a little lack of understanding of one another. Having James on the other side made it worse. Cohesion was lacking.

5. The DM was a problem today and the last game. But the pairing was also a problem. I think McTominay and Fred should fight for that position for now, and whoever is pairing with them should trust them enough to play ahead of them instead of on a parallel line with them. This was the case of Matic and Pogba. The problem with these two is lack of pace. McTominay would easily leave Fred behind and can return quickly if there is a problem. Vice versa ....
But I think McTominay looks like the guy who will get the role at the end.

Well said...

afrodoc2:


Trincao and Traore especially got tired in the 2nd half as well and that allowed us some space to breath. Another thing was AWB giving Traore some breathing space rather than rushing towards him rashly like he was doing in the first half.

Traore prefers you to rush him or close mark him so he can roll you or outmuscle you and then leave you behind. That is why i liked the way Varane was holding him off and marking the space rather than rushing to make a tackle.

Varane showed his experience and intelligence in dealing with Traore...

patrickmuf:
We will have to talk about Bruno away from his goals and assist at some point...

Baba, the truth is that this is a conversation most peeps here arent ready for.

If we remove his goals/assist from setplay and carefully assess his contribution to our overall play ehn....

Make i just stop here sha

TheLequte:


KingTom. How far Greenwood na

Is this what you are talking about?

KingTom:

Greenwood? Ok I hope so too bro I hope so too.

Greenwood wetin man no go see

Or this

KingTom:

Glides over the pitch? Shoots with both feet? I hope so bro I hope so.

Shoots from any angle Glides over the pitch e don reach to call person illiterate? Wetin man no go see

adisaaowala:


Baba, the truth is that this is a conversation most peeps here arent ready for.

I talked about his game during the Euros but some folks here jumped at his defense. The thing with folks here is that when a match is ongoing, you see folks talking about the very issues affecting the team but once we some how manage to bag the 3 pts, they forget about all the issues they had earlier pointed out...

When a match is ongoing, you hardly see Bruno between the midfield and attack and when he is around that position and gets the ball, he loses it because he is so much in a hurry to release the pass...With Ronaldo, he will need to be more a creator, a patient one at that because CR7 will not hesitate to do to him what he does to others...

afrodoc2:


Trincao and Traore especially got tired in the 2nd half as well and that allowed us some space to breath. Another thing was AWB giving Traore some breathing space rather than rushing towards him rashly like he was doing in the first half.

Traore prefers you to rush him or close mark him so he can roll you or outmuscle you and then leave you behind. That is why i liked the way Varane was holding him off and marking the space rather than rushing to make a tackle.

Varane is a world class defender

patrickmuf:
I talked about his game during the Euros but some folks here jumped at his defense. The thing with folks here is that when a match is ongoing, you see folks talking about the very issues affecting the team but once we some how manage to bag the 3 pts, they forget about all the issues they had earlier pointed out...

When a match is ongoing, you hardly see Bruno between the midfield and attack and when he is around that position and gets the ball, he loses it because he is so much in a hurry to release the pass...With Ronaldo, he will need to be more a creator, a patient one at that because CR7 will not hesitate to do to him what he does to others...

I am starting to think it is a tactical instruction from Amaka and his coaching crew because why else would he keep doing the same thing and it has not been corrected.
Especially this is not a matter of skill or talent but just tactical deployment. The guy stays so close to the CF that we are almost playing a 4-2-4 formation.

afrodoc2:


Is this what you are talking about?



Or this

Exactly

He ridiculed me cos I said Greenwood would be phenomenal for us if managed well. I listed his abilities and even posted a video.


The day Greenwood score hattrick ehn…dem go hear am

patrickmuf:
I talked about his game during the Euros but some folks here jumped at his defense. The thing with folks here is that when a match is ongoing, you see folks talking about the very issues affecting the team but once we some how manage to bag the 3 pts, they forget about all the issues they had earlier pointed out...

When a match is ongoing, you hardly see Bruno between the midfield and attack and when he is around that position and gets the ball, he loses it because he is so much in a hurry to release the pass...With Ronaldo, he will need to be more a creator, a patient one at that because CR7 will not hesitate to do to him what he does to others...

I’m curious. What does CR7 do to others?

CapitalCee:


Pogba could not get a foothold on the midfield however, he cannot account for a launched clearance from wolves which Fred could not control under absolutely no pressure, he simply cannot find his man, he cant recieve any ball passed to him, he was out of sync with the game entirely, ok mark kwanu, no way Neves and Moutinho were running rings over him, bypassing him like he os not there. I am not exonerating others of blame but Pogba recieves balls finds his man well and better even under pressure. For example Our game Vs Villareal it was Pogba/Mctominay pivot, they did not overunn our midfield infact Mctominay was our MOTM.

Okay I see Fred was the cause.

Expert17:


This one fit drag anybody because of Fred

I'm not responsible for what your comprehension o. Anytime I post these things, you think I'm exonerating Fred, but e no concern me

TheLequte:


I’m curious. What does CR7 do to others?

What Bruno does to others...

Bruno was relegated to the bench in the Euros because he was not in sync with CR7. He was supposed to be their creative outlet but he left the job for Carvalho and the other guy.

patrickmuf:
Another perspective...I noticed we improved too and thought to myself that maybe Ole told the players to relax and keep the ball more...

This is my point here but people think I'm trying to defend Fred. Keeping the ball masks helps the team a lot in many ways. Less chasing for the team

afrodoc2:
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I am starting to think it is a tactical instruction from Amaka and his coaching crew because why else would he keep doing the same thing and it has not been corrected.
Especially this is not a matter of skill or talent but just tactical deployment. The guy stays so close to the CF that we are almost playing a 4-2-4 formation.

They're issues we have identified on these board with a lot of our players yet they remain issues. VDB for instance.

I don't think Ole is even aware it's an issue talk less of it being a tactical instruction...

eph12:

This is my point here but people think I'm trying to defend Fred. Keeping the ball masks helps the team a lot in many ways. Less chasing for the team

Isn’t VdB supposed to be good at that? I mean keeping the ball?

eph12:

This is my point here but people think I'm trying to defend Fred. Keeping the ball masks helps the team a lot in many ways. Less chasing for the team

That's why I argued the other day that Rodri will look average in our system whist Fred will look world class in that Man City set up...We rush passes as if we are a relegation threatened team.

CapitalCee:


Bruno is an ultra attacking midfielder, there are already 4 defenders and a double pivot already, remember James was there to track Traore, even Ole confirmed it. We are left with Greenwood, sancho and Bruno to press wolves and find a goal and the team needs goal, why will Bruno drop back to join the midfield combat? Are we playing for a 0-0? Even Sancho had an offday and Greenwood is only a boy, Bruno must chop that space between the wolves CB to score, and he nearly did. The issue is Pogba was not combative and disciplined enough to cover for Fred clumsiness. I know you will say i am trying to make excuses for Bruno, but Bruno was like the CF/SS in that match and at 0-0 he is the person Ole is banking on to fashion out a goal, i dont see why Neves/Moutinho should overun Fred and Pogba that Bruno must have to come and help them. Mctominay will bravely engage them easily to a stand still.

You answered me here. I'm not sure every other thing is necessary.

However we will be fine when we realize that players are not forbidden to drop into the midfield to steady the ship as it benefits everyone including this star player. Let him be running after imaginary balls in the opposition box when Pogba that should supply him is not finding space

patrickmuf:
We will have to talk about Bruno away from his goals and assist at some point...

This is why we will always fall short when it matters most. But the next match after the damage has been done, superstar scores hattrick and it's hail Mary

patrickmuf:
What Bruno does to others...

What does Bruno do to others?

Bruno was relegated to the bench in the Euros because he was not in sync with CR7. He was supposed to be their creative outlet but he left the job for Carvalho and the other guy.

You really believe this? He was benched cause they were getting destroyed with a double pivot consisting of those slow mfs, they had to switch to a three to tighten up and Renato Sanches is better at a 3 than Bruno.