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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 7:34pm On Aug 30, 2021
iamoyindamola:

He messed up too, he was having a good time during the season we won fa cup until he started bringing up the midfield idea again
I think that was when wolves sold Doherty and was bidding him for 20m as replacement

Meanwhile Nelson had to sign a year extension or else he won't go on loan, these youths obviously don't like Arteta they will surely see his end

You are right and that is why I have not absolved him from his current situation. He got an England call up because of his performance playing RB/RWB.

His desire to play a specific position kind of reminds me of OX and Iwobi’s current situation. Both players believe they should be playing in the middle of the park and left Arsenal.. Today, one can not stay fit and when he is fit, he can’t find a spot in the starting 11 at Liverpool. The other, despite being healthy can’t get into the midfield at Everton. Infact, the only way he got into Ancelotti’s team was when he was used as a RWB. Today, he is coming off the bench..

ANM should have been allowed to join Wolves. I think he was okay with playing the RWB under Nuno at Wolves. At this point, he needs to be playing but I don’t trust Arteta with his continued development. As for Nelson, he should have been loaned out last season. He is one good loan season away from being a starter. He lacks confidence but is quite talented.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 7:35pm On Aug 30, 2021
kodded:
I for no vesk if him ego match his coaching skills

Respect is earned especially in formal work settings where unwritten rules do not exist or are not binding. You don’t force it..As a manager you can force your players to FEAR you but that is different from respect which a leader earns.

A manager doesn’t necessarily translate into Leader. Infact, within a group, you can have a leader who is not the manager. Now, can a manager who isn’t a leader evolve into a leader? Absolutely, but it is an exhaustive process that involves behavior modification and learning new skills.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 7:39pm On Aug 30, 2021
iamoyindamola:

Bros calm down abeg
You see apart from kokaneprodigy, I and that lunatic(he knows himself)
Every other persons here are very civil, e shock me as you call out Roland and I am sure others too will be surprised cos he's the least to go that route making snide remarks na miscommunication cause am
Make Una no vex

Na Arteta cause am

Baba, die that matter, I have said my peace, not worth going back and forth.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by IFuckYourMama: 7:41pm On Aug 30, 2021
I had to recheck if this is actually PL website grin


Arsenal na shit abeg

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by dcrested(m): 8:35pm On Aug 30, 2021
IFuckYourMama:
I had to recheck if this is actually PL website grin


Arsenal na shit abeg
So Man City is shit too

*D*

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by edi287: 8:35pm On Aug 30, 2021
Spy360:
Can't Arteta tempt AMN to play RB with improved contract rather than scouting for unwilling players across Europe.
AMN is adamant on not playing as a RB.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by edi287: 8:37pm On Aug 30, 2021
Spurs beats Arsenal to Emerson Royal. Arsenal offered 10m plus Bellerin. Barca wanted 20m plus Bellerin.
Edu is the worst technical director of all time.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:56pm On Aug 30, 2021
kodded:
yes, we needed a £30m back up goal keeper and a £50m defender who is not better than mavro and saliba over the likes of bissouma, maddison or sterling.



Great decision!
Focus on the player, forget the money. After all you did not contribute one kobo for anything. It's not your money. undecided
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 10:26pm On Aug 30, 2021
Roland17:


Respect is earned especially in formal work settings where unwritten rules do not exist or are not binding. You don’t force it..As a manager you can force your players to FEAR you but that is different from respect which a leader earns.

A manager doesn’t necessarily translate into Leader. Infact, within a group, you can have a leader who is not the manager. Now, can a manager who isn’t a leader evolve into a leader? Absolutely, but it is an exhaustive process that involves behavior modification and learning new skills.

Unfortunately our manager is not ready to change his attitude, I hope the pending sack will humble him.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 10:27pm On Aug 30, 2021
Spy360:

Focus on the player, forget the money. After all you did not contribute one kobo for anything. It's not your money. undecided

I no go forget about the money

Because we cannot sign another TOP quality player again because we dont have money undecided

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 10:30pm On Aug 30, 2021
Every serious organisation has what we call hierarchical structure. I am certain Arsenal has one. The authority down the ladder is meant to be respected from bottom up without question, yes the respect is binding, and no, it is not only when it is earned. The coach is damm high on the ladder than the players. Any attempt to encourage those at the bottom of the ladder to disrespect those on top of the ladder is a call for Anarchy.... A total break down of law and order. Business/Football Organisational management is not a military arrangement, but it is not a democracy either or a lawless Banana Republic. If you cannot abide by an organisation rules and order, you simply resign and leave. Even a voluntary organisation has rules of engagement and disengagement that must be followed by members.

Does that mean everyone on top hierarchy is good and qualified to be there? NO. Most organisation have ways of getting feedback and performance rating of their managers. It is even so easy to get in an organisation like Arsenal. The results are out every week. Also every organisation has channels of addressing grievances.... call for Anarchy is not one of them.

We must learn to separate Arteta's character and competence from the position he occupies. Yes he appears incompetent and has character problem... but as long as he occupies that office, no player should disrespect him or publicly criticize him, it is unprofessional. Even Arteta's employer will not do that.

So how can Arteta be checked and questioned? The board that employs him who are higher in authority can receive complaints about him, query him and sack him when necessary.

This is the way management works...and this is elementary management theory.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 10:30pm On Aug 30, 2021
edi287:
Spurs beats Arsenal to Emerson Royal. Arsenal offered 10m plus Bellerin. Barca wanted 20m plus Bellerin.
Edu is the worst technical director of all time.
money no dey again na sad



Na trade by barter arteta and co don reduce my club into.


See people wey board give £130m in the beginning of the transfer window. sad



Abeg make Norwich do the lord's work next week so that arteta and edu can leave this team for good
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:10pm On Aug 30, 2021
It's so bad original legends(overmars, Campbell, parlour) are coming out to work for the club to sort out the mess these fake legends aka faworaja (edu and Arteta) cause us.

Ian Wright was closed to tears on Saturday, he couldn't believe his eyes.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by edi287: 11:32pm On Aug 30, 2021
kodded:
money no dey again na sad



Na trade by barter arteta and co don reduce my club into.


See people wey board give £130m in the beginning of the transfer window. sad



Abeg make Norwich do the lord's work next week so that arteta and edu can leave this team for good
Clubs no rate us bro. How Barca wan tell us say Bellerin is worth 10m? The thing is embarrassing.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 11:35pm On Aug 30, 2021
edi287:

Clubs no rate us bro. How Barca wan tell us say Bellerin is worth 10m? The thing is embarrassing.
bellerin is nothing special, the only skill he had was his speed and sadly he has lost his speed so I don't think other clubs are wrong with their valuation of some of our players.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 11:37pm On Aug 30, 2021
iamoyindamola:
It's so bad original legends(overmars, Campbell, parlour) are coming out to work for the club to sort out the mess these fake legends aka faworaja (edu and Arteta) cause us.

Ian Wright was closed to tears on Saturday, he couldn't believe his eyes.
na wenger I pity pass

All his effort in building the arsenal as a big brand in europe is being shatterd into piece thanks to novice edu and Farteta
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 1:44am On Aug 31, 2021
Looks like Bellerin will be joining R. Betis.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:09am On Aug 31, 2021
Roland17:
Looks like Bellerin will be joining R. Betis.
Betis shocked
Not Barcelona omoooo x10000000
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 6:06am On Aug 31, 2021
iamoyindamola:

Betis shocked
Not Barcelona omoooo x10000000

So e be like say AMN go become LANS for that RB position.:
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:32am On Aug 31, 2021
Spy360:

Focus on the player, forget the money. After all you did not contribute one kobo for anything. It's not your money. undecided
Lol... Na exactly this kinda talk put barca for the big financial mess dem dey now.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:35am On Aug 31, 2021
ObaIgwe1:
Every serious organisation has what we call hierarchical structure. I am certain Arsenal has one. The authority down the ladder is meant to be respected from bottom up without question, yes the respect is binding, and no, it is not only when it is earned. The coach is damm high on the ladder than the players. Any attempt to encourage those at the bottom of the ladder to disrespect those on top of the ladder is a call for Anarchy.... A total break down of law and order. Business/Football Organisational management is not a military arrangement, but it is not a democracy either or a lawless Banana Republic. If you cannot abide by an organisation rules and order, you simply resign and leave. Even a voluntary organisation has rules of engagement and disengagement that must be followed by members.

Does that mean everyone on top hierarchy is good and qualified to be there? NO. Most organisation have ways of getting feedback and performance rating of their managers. It is even so easy to get in an organisation like Arsenal. The results are out every week. Also every organisation has channels of addressing grievances.... call for Anarchy is not one of them.

We must learn to separate Arteta's character and competence from the position he occupies. Yes he appears incompetent and has character problem... but as long as he occupies that office, no player should disrespect him or publicly criticize him, it is unprofessional. Even Arteta's employer will not do that.

So how can Arteta be checked and questioned? The board that employs him who are higher in authority can receive complaints about him, query him and sack him when necessary.

This is the way management works...and this is elementary management theory.

True 200%
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:41am On Aug 31, 2021
Roland17:


So e be like say AMN go become LANS for that RB position.:
Am glad they will give amn another opportunity, but chambers needs to leave before I believe anything.
Arteta is becoming something else
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:43am On Aug 31, 2021
edi287:
Spurs beats Arsenal to Emerson Royal. Arsenal offered 10m plus Bellerin. Barca wanted 20m plus Bellerin.
Edu is the worst technical director of all time.
shocked shocked

So the 20m wey Willian dash dem,,dem no fit package am and bellerin go dash barca shocked

Omo, diz wan choke.


But this club is funny die

We need Am... The money gotten from Willock sale was what we used to add and buy odegaard. But 30m for back up keeper fell out easily.

50m for Ben white fell out easily, but 20million for Emerson, the money scarce.

How huge money fall out for non-priority/cheap positions yet the ones of high priority the money dey scarce na one big mystery grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:44am On Aug 31, 2021
Roland17:


So e be like say AMN go become LANS for that RB position.:
With this recent thing Amn do, I dey suspect 200yrs for bench for am
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 7:10am On Aug 31, 2021
Jodera:
Lol... Na exactly this kinda talk put barca for the big financial mess dem dey now.
Spy360 na very emotional and passionate fan and it's affecting his sense of judgement of the current situation we are in presently.

We sold Emi Martinez for 20m and a year after we are buying a replacement for 30m..... that’s bad business if u ask me. I’m one of the people who believe Martinez sale was out of our hands since we have two good keepers who would not sit on the bench for each other , but then the replacement cost just doesn’t make any sense .

The 50million spent on Ben white is a huge chunk of the 128m we have spent this transfer season. Whoever sanctioned that deal needs to be investigated for money laundering .


While everybody was talking about AM , CM and other obvious aspects of our game that has visible deficiency , i was here preaching the gospel of getting a decent RB in place of “jack-of-all-trade-master-of-none” chambers and “washed” bellerin..... Now the chicken has come home to roost. Even if a RB is signed today we all know we will be getting a scrap that would most likely be a backup and not a big game player.

If Edu or whoever is handling our business side of the game want to prove themselves then they need to get rid of players like Kolasinac, Elneny, Xhaka , Bellerin, etc and get decent fee for them ..... it is only then we can think of rebuilding for real
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 7:30am On Aug 31, 2021
BlueRayDick:

Spy360 na very emotional and passionate fan and it's affecting his sense of judgement of the current situation we are in presently.

We sold Emi Martinez for 20m and a year after we are buying a replacement for 30m..... that’s bad business if u ask me. I’m one of the people who believe Martinez sale was out of our hands since we have two good keepers who would not sit on the bench for each other , but then the replacement cost just doesn’t make any sense .

The 50million spent on Ben white is a huge chunk of the 128m we have spent this transfer season. Whoever sanctioned that deal needs to be investigated for money laundering .


While everybody was talking about AM , CM and other obvious aspects of our game that has visible deficiency , i was here preaching the gospel of getting a decent RB in place of “jack-of-all-trade-master-of-none” chambers and “washed” bellerin..... Now the chicken has come home to roost. Even if a RB is signed today we all know we will be getting a scrap that would most likely be a backup and not a big game player.

If Edu or whoever is handling our business side of the game want to prove themselves then they need to get rid of players like Kolasinac, Elneny, Xhaka , Bellerin, etc and get decent fee for them ..... it is only then we can think of rebuilding for real

Mr Leadership is not going anywhere
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 8:41am On Aug 31, 2021
Jodera:
shocked shocked

So the 20m wey Willian dash dem,,dem no fit package am and bellerin go dash barca shocked

Omo, diz wan choke.


But this club is funny die

We need Am... The money gotten from Willock sale was what we used to add and buy odegaard. But 30m for back up keeper fell out easily.

50m for Ben white fell out easily, but 20million for Emerson, the money scarce.

How huge money fall out for non-priority/cheap positions yet the ones of high priority the money dey scarce na one big mystery grin
Do you know William still tender apologies on his failed performance in arsenal
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 8:41am On Aug 31, 2021
BlueRayDick:

Spy360 na very emotional and passionate fan and it's affecting his sense of judgement of the current situation we are in presently.

We sold Emi Martinez for 20m and a year after we are buying a replacement for 30m..... that’s bad business if u ask me. I’m one of the people who believe Martinez sale was out of our hands since we have two good keepers who would not sit on the bench for each other , but then the replacement cost just doesn’t make any sense .

The 50million spent on Ben white is a huge chunk of the 128m we have spent this transfer season. Whoever sanctioned that deal needs to be investigated for money laundering .


While everybody was talking about AM , CM and other obvious aspects of our game that has visible deficiency , i was here preaching the gospel of getting a decent RB in place of “jack-of-all-trade-master-of-none” chambers and “washed” bellerin..... Now the chicken has come home to roost. Even if a RB is signed today we all know we will be getting a scrap that would most likely be a backup and not a big game player.

If Edu or whoever is handling our business side of the game want to prove themselves then they need to get rid of players like Kolasinac, Elneny, Xhaka , Bellerin, etc and get decent fee for them ..... it is only then we can think of rebuilding for real
Which xhaka abeg grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:23am On Aug 31, 2021
If bissouma is to expensive, let's go for tomato sanchez
willian money must not waste angry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by edi287: 9:28am On Aug 31, 2021
Jodera:
shocked shocked

So the 20m wey Willian dash dem,,dem no fit package am and bellerin go dash barca shocked

Omo, diz wan choke.


But this club is funny die

We need Am... The money gotten from Willock sale was what we used to add and buy odegaard. But 30m for back up keeper fell out easily.

50m for Ben white fell out easily, but 20million for Emerson, the money scarce.

How huge money fall out for non-priority/cheap positions yet the ones of high priority the money dey scarce na one big mystery grin
The sad thing is the club could've sold this guy last season for 25m.
Edu is a disgrace I tell you.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 9:30am On Aug 31, 2021
kodded:
money no dey again na sad



Na trade by barter arteta and co don reduce my club into.


See people wey board give £130m in the beginning of the transfer window. sad



Abeg make Norwich do the lord's work next week so that arteta and edu can leave this team for good
And Spy just said we should forget about the money and focus on the player. Is money not an integral part of a transfer window? It’s folks that take that dude and his thought process serious I feel for.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 9:32am On Aug 31, 2021
Jodera:
shocked shocked

So the 20m wey Willian dash dem,,dem no fit package am and bellerin go dash barca shocked

Omo, diz wan choke.


But this club is funny die

We need Am... The money gotten from Willock sale was what we used to add and buy odegaard. But 30m for back up keeper fell out easily.

50m for Ben white fell out easily, but 20million for Emerson, the money scarce.

How huge money fall out for non-priority/cheap positions yet the ones of high priority the money dey scarce na one big mystery grin
This was how I arrived at the conclusion that Arteta was prioritizing defense. I hope everyone is seeing it clearly now.

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