"In The Lion's Den"..

This Street Evangelist after praying for a woman (a Christian) sighted me and said " Bro, may I share the word of God with you? ".. I answered," sure, why not " , I requested we go inside, he didn't object.

The first thing he said was " can we pray? "... I answered " NO".. He gave me that "OMG" look. He asked why and I gave him in a comfortable answer so he wouldn't think he's in the wrong place at the right time!. I said "the way you may want to pray may not go along with my belief or would you say Amen if someone prays for you in the name of the devil?? He answered " No"

He asked, "Do you need believe in God?".... Yes..." that the devil exists "...... Yes..." that God sent Jesus"..... Yes. "That Adam and Eve sinned".... Yes!!!....." That Jesus came to die for our sins "........ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I told him there's no justice in Jesus dying for our sins, no one will die for the sins of another moreover Jesus never claimed to die for our sins . He quoted John 1:29,where John claimed Jesus is the lamb who came to take away the sins of the world. I told him that if I claim someone is a king, you should have seen signs of kingship in such person or the person should have at any point in time called himself a king.. Did Jesus claimed to have come just to die for our sins I don't know if he forgot the verse where Jesus said so or the verse is not inside the Bible.

He asked if I believe Jesus is my Lord and personal savior, I said no referring him to Isiah 43 :10-13. I also told him that "IF I WERE TO CONSIDER A BIBLICAL FIGURE TO BE GOD, I WILL CHOSE NOAH".. . If NOAH wasn't righteous back then and God destroyed him with other people, who would Jesus come to die for. What I found surprising is the way he switches to different topics after each questions.
He asked, "DO YOU BELIEVE JESUS DIED?"..... NO.." DO YOU BELIEVE HE ASCENDED TO HEAVEN??.... YES!!!. He than asked me to explain how Jesus went to heaven without dying.. O answered, "if Enoch WAS NOT, if Elijah went to heaven without dying, of Melchizedek could be hibernating somewhere, why doesn't it make sense to believe Jesus ascended to heaven without dying??.... His reply was " OK".

He also asked if I believe in trinity, I said no. He asked why and I told him trinitarians in Jesus days used to steal (got this idea from an article I read). He was surprised and asked who. I told him if he doesn't know trinitarian Christians who steal in Jesus' days then he should tell me any trinitarian Christian that followed Jesus!!!...

He asked who God is to me and I said, HE is ONE, the ETERNAL, ABSOLUTE..... he interrupted and asked how is God absolute........ By being Supreme....... how Is he supreme?...... Because he's a doer of whatever he wills and when he intends a thing, he says BE AND IT IS!!...

I asked him who is God and he said "God IS A SPIRIT". I asked him "IF GOD IS A SPIRIT, WHO CREATED SPIRITS?.".... he said my question is congenial to asking who create God... I said " Nay, Who created spirits if God is a spirit He said it's as if am who created God and I couldn't help but give him the 'O GAWD' Look.

He went on to describe God as looking like him and vice versa. I said 'oh, you look like God!, how about me?.. He said we are created in God's image. I told him the type of God he created for himself must be so handsome and yet terrible because he must look like am African, Chinese, Indian, American.... He must have white, black, grey hair and he must be bald!... God's got a genital too??
He said he has some other places to reach and we could meet some other time....... No problem as usual...
Now, am asking, if God is a spirit according to Christians, who created spirits?

Copied from Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman (2015)

Trash!!
You must be proud of yourself for writing this lame nonsense.
FYI, not only Christians believe God is a spirit. All religions believe God is a spirit except you do not know what spirit means.

Agboriotejoye:
Trash!!
You must be proud of yourself for writing this lame nonsense.
FYI, not only Christians believe God is a spirit. All religions believe God is a spirit except you do not know what spirit means.

Stop this dangerous conclusion. Allah is not a spirit.

Islam does not believe such. Claiming "all religion"... as above is falsehood.

Allah created mankind, Jinns and Angels.

According to the Bible book of Malachi 3:16, the true God will bless some people with the knowledge of truth so they'll be speaking and discussing with their neighbours on how they can worship God acceptably, God even promised that angels will be writing down the names of people engaging in this wholesome activity. But it's unfortunate that Satan quickly initiated so many false religions all claiming worshipers of God.
So how will you know if you are practicing true worship as God promised?
You will have tangible things that will strike the heart of honest hearted and sincere people so that they'll be moved or disturbed either wanting to hear more from you (if they're sincere) or attack you (if their conscience is judging them due to the efficacy in your message)
In the case where your message doesn't fall into any of the two then know that your religion is false which means you've got nothing to impact in other people's hearts! 2Timothy 3:5-7
So my friend relax, Islam has nothing to teach anyone. The meaning of SPIRIT is an unseen supernatural Being.
All Gods whether Almighty, angels or demons fall under this category until they are able to prove themselves!

Jinns are supernatural beings we humans can't see. They have reason like us and immense strength and weird forms. They have freewill like us. Shaytan or Satan is a typical example.

Angels on the other have no freewill just as we can't see them in their true form. They obey Allah only and do not rebel as Christians believe. Jubril or Gabriel is an example.

God is not a Jinn nor an Angel and not Human.

AntiChristian:
Jinns are supernatural beings we humans can't see. They have reason like us and immense strength and weird forms. They have freewill like us. Shaytan or Satan is a typical example.

Angels on the other have no freewill just as we can't see them in their true form. They obey Allah only and do not rebel as Christians believe. Jubril or Gabriel is an example.

God is not a Jinn nor an Angel and not Human.

The truth is that God is a Spirit!

AntiChristian:


Stop this dangerous conclusion. Allah is not a spirit.

Islam does not believe such. Claiming "all religion"... as above is falsehood.

Allah created mankind, Jinns and Angels.

Ok. What does Islam believe then?

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible book of Malachi 3:16, the true God will bless some people with the knowledge of truth so they'll be speaking and discussing with their neighbours on how they can worship God acceptably, God even promised that angels will be writing down the names of people engaging in this wholesome activity. But it's unfortunate that Satan quickly initiated so many false religions all claiming worshipers of God.
So how will you know if you are practicing true worship as God promised?
You will have tangible things that will strike the heart of honest hearted and sincere people so that they'll be moved or disturbed either wanting to hear more from you (if they're sincere) or attack you (if their conscience is judging them due to the efficacy in your message)
In the case where your message doesn't fall into any of the two then know that your religion is false which means you've got nothing to impact in other people's hearts! 2Timothy 3:5-7
So my friend relax, Islam has nothing to teach anyone. The meaning of SPIRIT is an unseen supernatural Being.
All Gods whether Almighty, angels or demons fall under this category until they are able to prove themselves!

Simple English fa. Yet they built nomadic schools for them which they refused to attend simply because the builder is kafur

AntiChristian:
"In The Lion's Den"..

This Street Evangelist after praying for a woman (a Christian) sighted me and said " Bro, may I share the word of God with you? ".. I answered," sure, why not " , I requested we go inside, he didn't object.

The first thing he said was " can we pray? "... I answered " NO".. He gave me that "OMG" look. He asked why and I gave him in a comfortable answer so he wouldn't think he's in the wrong place at the right time!. I said "the way you may want to pray may not go along with my belief or would you say Amen if someone prays for you in the name of the devil?? He answered " No"

He asked, "Do you need believe in God?".... Yes..." that the devil exists "...... Yes..." that God sent Jesus"..... Yes. "That Adam and Eve sinned".... Yes!!!....." That Jesus came to die for our sins "........ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I told him there's no justice in Jesus dying for our sins, no one will die for the sins of another moreover Jesus never claimed to die for our sins . He quoted John 1:29,where John claimed Jesus is the lamb who came to take away the sins of the world. I told him that if I claim someone is a king, you should have seen signs of kingship in such person or the person should have at any point in time called himself a king.. Did Jesus claimed to have come just to die for our sins I don't know if he forgot the verse where Jesus said so or the verse is not inside the Bible.

He asked if I believe Jesus is my Lord and personal savior, I said no referring him to Isiah 43 :10-13. I also told him that "IF I WERE TO CONSIDER A BIBLICAL FIGURE TO BE GOD, I WILL CHOSE NOAH".. . If NOAH wasn't righteous back then and God destroyed him with other people, who would Jesus come to die for. What I found surprising is the way he switches to different topics after each questions.
He asked, "DO YOU BELIEVE JESUS DIED?"..... NO.." DO YOU BELIEVE HE ASCENDED TO HEAVEN??.... YES!!!. He than asked me to explain how Jesus went to heaven without dying.. O answered, "if Enoch WAS NOT, if Elijah went to heaven without dying, of Melchizedek could be hibernating somewhere, why doesn't it make sense to believe Jesus ascended to heaven without dying??.... His reply was " OK".

He also asked if I believe in trinity, I said no. He asked why and I told him trinitarians in Jesus days used to steal (got this idea from an article I read). He was surprised and asked who. I told him if he doesn't know trinitarian Christians who steal in Jesus' days then he should tell me any trinitarian Christian that followed Jesus!!!...

He asked who God is to me and I said, HE is ONE, the ETERNAL, ABSOLUTE..... he interrupted and asked how is God absolute........ By being Supreme....... how Is he supreme?...... Because he's a doer of whatever he wills and when he intends a thing, he says BE AND IT IS!!...

I asked him who is God and he said "God IS A SPIRIT". I asked him "IF GOD IS A SPIRIT, WHO CREATED SPIRITS?.".... he said my question is congenial to asking who create God... I said " Nay, Who created spirits if God is a spirit He said it's as if am who created God and I couldn't help but give him the 'O GAWD' Look.

He went on to describe God as looking like him and vice versa. I said 'oh, you look like God!, how about me?.. He said we are created in God's image. I told him the type of God he created for himself must be so handsome and yet terrible because he must look like am African, Chinese, Indian, American.... He must have white, black, grey hair and he must be bald!... God's got a genital too??
He said he has some other places to reach and we could meet some other time....... No problem as usual...
Now, am asking, if God is a spirit according to Christians, who created spirits?

Copied from Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman (2015)

Chi is personal that is your personal spirit or (God)

Chiukwu meaning large spirit and is represented by the sun because the same way no one can explain the ways of the sun it’s the same way no one can explain the way chiukwu works..
Chineke means God the creator which is seen as another form of God that all things both spiritual and physical comes from him
I don’t know if he is a spirit or a force or whatever he is my people explained him as a mystery that can’t be explained and him to be the creator
So it doesn’t matter what you see him like
There is a bigger chi greater than the one..
It’s crazy that people chose to believe in a mortal man over themselves in the name of religion
If you believe in your chi you will be unstoppable

Just trying to explain my part using what my fore fathers believed in

You brother, Answer me, Who Created your Son or daughter? You're a human, How come your sin or daughter cone through you?

If the same God that says be fruitful and multiply make it possible then how come about you doubting that he Couldn't create Spirit? What if human, do they have Spirit? How does it came to be??


Learn sense, Fear God.

Just because you want to bash Christians you ended up disgracing yourself...Never knew you are this empty....

Allah no be spirit nor Human...,wetin him/she/it come be?....If Allah is not spirit nor Human then he/she/it doesn't exist.

Nwchkwgz:

Chi is personal that is your personal spirit or (God)

Chiukwu meaning large spirit and is represented by the sun because the same way no one can explain the ways of the sun it’s the same way no one can explain the way chiukwu works..
Chineke means God the creator which is seen as another form of God that all things both spiritual and physical comes from him
I don’t know if he is a spirit or a force or whatever he is my people explained him as a mystery that can’t be explained and him to be the creator
So it doesn’t matter what you see him like
There is a bigger chi greater than the one..
It’s crazy that people chose to believe in a mortal man over themselves in the name of religion
If you believe in your chi you will be unstoppable

So how many Chi do you have in total now?

MaxInDHouse:


The truth is that God is a Spirit!

What are Angels? What are demons?
Are Angels made up of the same matter as God?

zoer:
Just because you want to bash Christians you ended up disgracing yourself...Never knew you are this empty....

Allah no be spirit nor Human...,wetin him/she/it come be?....If Allah is not spirit nor Human then he/she/it doesn't exist.

We simply do not know as He never mentioned it.

He only told us He created Jinns (like Satan), Angels, Humans, etc.

So in this your submission, na only Spirit (Jinn) and humans dey exist?

Actually I seen no disgrace here.

If God is a Spirit, An Angel is a Spirit and A demon is a Spirit, so they all have the same make-up?
Does that mean God created them in his own form?

MaxInDHouse:

So my friend relax, Islam has nothing to teach anyone.

That's why people are embracing JW and Shunning Islam abi?

AntiChristian:


So how many Chi do you have in total now?

All of us
Chi is known as spirit in English
Or what science calls energy
In every living thing it exists

Nwchkwgz:

All of us
Chi is known as spirit in English
Or what science calls energy
In every living thing it exists

Antichristian is a confused person. He wants to prove to be knowledgeable in Christian faith. He is a confused person like Mohammad.

MightySparrow:


Antichristian is a confused person. He wants to prove to be knowledgeable in Christian faith. He is a confused person like Mohammad.

Everybody with him own

Nwchkwgz:

All of us
Chi is known as spirit in English
Or what science calls energy
In every living thing it exists

So spirit is energy?

So Spirit (like energy) can neither be created nor destroyed but can be converted from one form to another according to the first law of thermodynamics (law of conservation of energy)?

And are the limitations that follows the laws of energy applicable to your Chi too?

Atheism101

MightySparrow:


Antichristian is a confused person. He wants to prove to be knowledgeable in Christian faith. He is a confused person like Mohammad.

MightySparrow is a muddled up person! He lacks the requisite knowledge in the Christaian faith he professes. He is a confused person like the Holy Spirit that is controlling him.

AntiChristian:


So spirit is energy?

So Spirit (like energy) can neither be created nor destroyed but can be converted from one form to another according to the first law of thermodynamics (law of conservation of energy)?

And are the limitations that follows the laws of energy applicable to your Chi too?

Atheism101

You will not understand because u have thrown away your ancestral religion for the teaching of a foreigner called mohammed. Chi in igbo is God. When he created us, he put in us his spirit/himself (chi) which gave us life and consciousness. Chi is the essence of existence that flows thru each of us uniting the body, mind and spirit. Its what makes us alive. Many people in their lives will not attain the union of body, mind and spirit, this is because its an exercise that involves lots of meditation and seclusion. Jesus mastered this. So did budha.... If you know/master the form of controlling your chi, you would be close to supernatural form, you would heal ur sick body and know the future and ultimately know the real God.
N/B- the igbos, Chinese, native americans, Indians and Japanese all have the same belief. In fact just like igbos, the Chinese call their own God chi. No wonder igbo means ancient people.

AntiChristian:


So spirit is energy?

So Spirit (like energy) can neither be created nor destroyed but can be converted from one form to another according to the first law of thermodynamics (law of conservation of energy)?

And are the limitations that follows the laws of energy applicable to your Chi too?

Atheism101

That is what Christians don’t understand.. when you die your chi doesn’t die it’s your body (ahu) that dies.. your spirit goes from the physical to the spiritual when it lives only for it to be reborn... our ancestors knew all of this
Your chi never dies it only changes form
The Igbo man believes in duality of our worlds
Your spirit or energy is immortal it can’t be destroyed it only changes form
This is the oldest religion in the world go and do your research
Igbo spirituality 101

oluwaahmed:


You will not understand because u have thrown away your ancestral religion for the teaching of a foreigner called mohammed. Chi in igbo is God. When he created us, he put in us his spirit/himself (chi) which gave us life and consciousness. Chi is the essence of existence that flows thru each of us uniting the body, mind and spirit. Its what makes us alive. Many people in their lives will not attain the union of body, mind and spirit, this is because its an exercise that involves lots of meditation and seclusion. Jesus mastered this. So did budha.... If you know/master the form of controlling your chi, you would be close to supernatural form, you would heal ur sick body and know the future and ultimately know the real God.
N/B- the igbos, Chinese, native americans, Indians and Japanese all have the same belief. In fact just like igbos, the Chinese call their own God chi. No wonder igbo means ancient people.

Igbos are ancient people from the lineage of obatala( chineke) they have the oldest religion known to man..
I studied Igbo spirituality for 8 months and I understand a whole lot about our world now
As for the op
I’m ready for him

Nwchkwgz:

Igbos are ancient people from the lineage of obatala( chineke) they have the oldest religion known to man..
I studied Igbo spirituality for 8 months and I understand a whole lot about our world now
As for the op
I’m ready for him

Wait how does it make sense for Obatala to be Chineke? Obatala is the right hand man of Olodumare or the highest Orisa and Chineke is the supreme being who can only be equated to Olodumare or is there something i'm missing please elaborate.

Nwchkwgz:

That is what Christians don’t understand.. when you die your chi doesn’t die it’s your body (ahu) that dies.. your spirit goes from the physical to the spiritual when it lives only for it to be reborn... our ancestors knew all of this
Your chi never dies it only changes form
The Igbo man believes in duality of our worlds
Your spirit or energy is immortal it can’t be destroyed it only changes form
This is the oldest religion in the world go and do your research
Igbo spirituality 101

This sounds exactly like the Yoruba religion

Abohboy:


Wait how does it make sense for Obatala to be Chineke? Obatala is the right hand man of Olodumare or the highest Orisa and Chineke is the supreme being who can only be equated to Olodumare or is there something i'm missing please elaborate.

right hand side of olodumare are stories for kids to understand creation so as we grow older we understand them better
Obatala and chineke are both the creative energies of the supreme God in which man was created..
Mistaken by interpretation
Just like devil ekwensu and esu is mistaken too
They are not evil
But they are the energies or spirit of temptation and magic
Remember job and Jesus were tempted with the permission of God in the Christian bible
That’s how it is
Obatala is the creative spirit in which man is formed
The Igbos call it chineke the creative spirit
I know that oba was a title given to someone who has mastered him self in time immemorial I don’t know what tala means maybe you can do your reasearch on that

Nwchkwgz:

right hand side of olodumare are stories for kids to understand creation so as we grow older we understand them better
Obatala and chineke are both the creative energies of the supreme God in which man was created..
Mistaken by interpretation
Just like devil ekwensu and esu is mistaken too
They are not evil
But they are the energies or spirit of temptation and magic
Remember job and Jesus were tempted with the permission of God in the Christian bible
That’s how it is
Obatala is the creative spirit in which man is formed
The Igbos call it chineke the creative spirit
I know that oba was a title given to someone who has mastered him self in time immemorial I don’t know what tala means maybe you can do your reasearch on that

Esu is more of a messenger though not temptation he's considered evil because he rules the crossroads as in different decisions you can make within a given situation so when things went wrong people cursed Esu which the British viewed as the devil i'm not sure about Ekwensu though and yes Obatala was the creative spirit that created man but Obatala is part of Ifa and Chineke is part of Odinani and in Odinani Chineke is the supreme God as Olodumare is the supreme God in Ifa so how are Obatala and Chineke the same?

Abohboy:


Wait how does it make sense for Obatala to be Chineke? Obatala is the right hand man of Olodumare or the highest Orisa and Chineke is the supreme being who can only be equated to Olodumare or is there something i'm missing please elaborate.

https://fb.watch/7Y1WHPxSBQ/
Here is a video of the ooni of ife confirming what I said too
And I made reference of the Bible because they were writing by our forefathers too you can check songs of Solomon 1:6 for more reference
And yes they were all blacks if not all 80%

Nwchkwgz:

https://fb.watch/7Y1WHPxSBQ/
Here is a video of the ooni of ife confirming what I said too
And I made reference of the Bible because they were writing by our forefathers too you can check songs of Solomon 1:6 for more reference
And yes they were all blacks if not all 80%

The Bible isn't the same as our religion and isn't related to our forefathers let's get that fact right

Abohboy:


Esu is more of a messenger though not temptation he's considered evil because he rules the crossroads as in different decisions you can make within a given situation so when things went wrong people cursed Esu which the British viewed as the devil i'm not sure about Ekwensu though and yes Obatala was the creative spirit that created man but Obatala is part of Ifa and Chineke is part of Odinani and in Odinani Chineke is the supreme God as Olodumare is the supreme God in Ifa so how are Obatala and Chineke the same?

Chiukwu is the supreme God
Then let not use English to confuse ourselves
Chineke is the creative form of chukwu
Creative form is more like messenger
And what you explained about esu is what we call ekwensu
We are saying the same thing chief
Chiukwu chi and chineke are not the same energies
Just like Sango and amadioha too it’s all the same thing

Abohboy:


The Bible isn't the same as our religion and isn't related to our forefathers let's get that fact right

Solomon was a black man
Noah was a black man
If Solomon was black then is David and Jesus
Let’s not talk about this please I’m not in the mood
If you doubt me read songs of Solomon 1:6
Even Samson way get dada
Do you think the person that said if you want to hide something from a black man put it in a book was a fool?