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Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho:
HellVictorinho
LordReed

To me the greatest evidence for simulation is placebo effect. If reality were as we perceive it, something should not physicaly happen simply because you totally believe it will. But in our reality if someone believes placebo is real medicine scientists observe the "medication" physically working, curring them as it were real!
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho:
HellVictorinho
LordReed
In considering wether our reality is totally real, consider the following:

People who have experienced the afterlife, have said that it compares to real life same way real life compares to a dream state - that all the senses are magnified, that it feels much more real than conscious reality,
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 9:38am On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
I looked for it and found it - exactly same thing I told u to do
You looked for what?
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 9:43am On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
In considering wether our reality is totally real, consider the following:

People who have experienced the afterlife, have said that it compares to real life same way real life compares to a dream state - that all the senses are magnified, that it feels much more real than conscious reality,
Consider that people who experience NDEs are experiencing altered brain states either from anesthetics or trauma or even both.
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 9:46am On Sep 04, 2021
HellVictorinho:
He sees them as smarter people since they have overwhelmed his brain with another mentality.


I have told him what is impossible in a dream but he disagreed without any proof of such happening.
What do you expect from a conceited person? Nobody else exists only him, the height of conceit.
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho: 10:13am On Sep 04, 2021
LordReed:
You looked for what?
Website
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho: 10:14am On Sep 04, 2021
LordReed:
Consider that people who experience NDEs are experiencing altered brain states either from anesthetics or trauma or even both.
Consider they were clinically dead, not NDE
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho: 10:26am On Sep 04, 2021
HellVictorinho
LordReed

To me the greatest evidence for simulation is placebo effect. If reality were as we perceive it, something should not physicaly happen simply because you totally believe it will. But in our reality if someone believes placebo is real medicine scientists observe the "medication" physically working, curring them as if it were real!
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 10:39am On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
HellVictorinho
LordReed

To me the greatest evidence for simulation is placebo effect. If reality were as we perceive it, something should not physicaly happen simply because you totally believe it will. But in our reality if someone believes placebo is real medicine scientists observe the "medication" physically working, curring them as if it were real!
And what of those who take nothing and have their illnesses resolve favorably? Ever heard of control groups where they give the group nothing and yet group members get favorable outcomes. You think it’s magic or some funky simulation jazz?
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 10:42am On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
Consider they were clinically dead, not NDE
Because when a person dies the trauma or drugs in their body gets automatically flushed out by magic..
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 10:43am On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
Website
You typed website in the search bar and it gave you those results?
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho: 11:14am On Sep 04, 2021
LordReed:
You typed website in the search bar and it gave you those results?
Now u are getting close. Don't type exactly website.
You'd eventually get the hang of it
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by KnownUnknown: 11:15am On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
What did you say is impossible in a dream? My bros this has been studied ad infinitum - there is NOTHING you can do in real life that you cannot do in a dream or even durring a false awakening
Find a two story building. Climb on the roof. Then throw yourself off. Make sure there is nothing to cushion your fall. We want to make sure you get the full experience.

You’ll be able to tell the difference between dreams ( false awakening, lucid, etc) and reality after this simple exercise.
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho: 11:19am On Sep 04, 2021
LordReed:
And what of those who take nothing and have their illnesses resolve favorably? Ever heard of control groups where they give the group nothing and yet group members get favorable outcomes. You think it’s magic or some funky simulation jazz?
Nothing stays the same. Your headache will eventually go away even if you do nothing. You know fully well that's not what we are talking about. We are talking dramatic healing that srarts occuring once the "drug" has been administered
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 11:59am On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
Nothing stays the same. Your headache will eventually go away even if you do nothing. You know fully well that's not what we are talking about. We are talking dramatic healing that srarts occuring once the "drug" has been administered
What is the difference between cancer going into remission while taking placebo and cancer going into remission while not taking anything?
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 12:00pm On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
Now u are getting close. Don't type exactly website.
You'd eventually get the hang of it
So what should I type?
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 12:01pm On Sep 04, 2021
KnownUnknown:
Find a two story building. Climb on the roof. Then throw yourself off. Make sure there is nothing to cushion your fall. We want to make sure you get the full experience.

You’ll be able to tell the difference between dreams ( false awakening, lucid, etc) and reality after this simple exercise.
He may even experience an afterlife. LMAO!
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by KnownUnknown: 12:07pm On Sep 04, 2021
LordReed:
He may even experience an afterlife. LMAO!
The guy is one of the most deluded around here. He couches his superstition in obscurantism and thinks he’s saying something.
He is not sure about reality but “preponderance of evidence” point to simulations and afterlife!!. I’m surprised you had the patience to keep going back and forth without calling his bluff.
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 12:10pm On Sep 04, 2021
KnownUnknown:
The guy is one of the most deluded around here. He couches his superstition in obscurantism and thinks he’s saying something.
He is not sure about reality but “preponderance of evidence” point to simulations and afterlife!!. I’m surprised you had the patience to keep going back and forth without calling his bluff.
I did but he’s so conceited he has become like a black hole sucking in light and emitting dangerous radiation, no sense escapes his event horizon.
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho: 1:33pm On Sep 04, 2021
KnownUnknown:
Find a two story building. Climb on the roof. Then throw yourself off. Make sure there is nothing to cushion your fall. We want to make sure you get the full experience.

You’ll be able to tell the difference between dreams ( false awakening, lucid, etc) and reality after this simple exercise.
Wrong! People die in dreams all the time. Just that they wake up in "real" life. Just as when you die here you may wake up in another life. Look, there are all sorts of anecdotes, but EXPERTS have determined there is nothing you can't do.
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho: 1:41pm On Sep 04, 2021
LordReed:
What is the difference between cancer going into remission while taking placebo and cancer going into remission while not taking anything?
Same difference between cancer going into remission while taking cancer medication and cancer going into remission while not taking anything. Understand, placebo acts as medication that physically cures you when you think it’s medication that will physically cure you.
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho: 1:43pm On Sep 04, 2021
LordReed:
So what should I type?
Then you type in what it is you want to know, with any extra details that will take you to the exact website
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by KnownUnknown: 1:55pm On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
Wrong! People die in dreams all the time. Just that they wake up in "real" life.
Thank you for acknowledging the difference between “real” life and dreams. Lol
By the way, I am an EXPERT.
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho:
HellVictorinho HellVictorinho
LordReed, KnownUnknown
See below, examples of what people have done.
Explain them!

Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 2:10pm On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
Same difference between cancer going into remission while taking cancer medication and cancer going into remission while not taking anything. Understand, placebo acts as medication that physically cures you when you think it’s medication that will physically cure you.
So to you placebo is magic while taking nothing to achieve the same effect is not magic? LoL SMH
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 2:12pm On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
See below, examples of what people have done.
Explain them!
People have done similar under the effects of drugs or brain damage so what is special about people committing crimes under abnormal sleep effects?
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho: 2:16pm On Sep 04, 2021
LordReed:
People have done similar under the effects of drugs or brain damage so what is special about people committing crimes under abnormal sleep effects?
People can do ANYTHING while dreaming that they can do while awake
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho: 2:20pm On Sep 04, 2021
KnownUnknown:
Thank you for acknowledging the difference between “real” life and dreams. Lol
By the way, I am an EXPERT.
That's why it's in quotes. Our real life may be a dream within another real life. Universe could be so weird that maybe there are multiple real lives and you just dying and waking up successively!
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho: 2:21pm On Sep 04, 2021
LordReed:
So to you placebo is magic while taking nothing to achieve the same effect is not magic? LoL SMH
Stop talking nonsense. Is taking asprin when you have headache same as taking nothing?
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 2:26pm On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
People can do ANYTHING while dreaming that they can do while awake
Most humans don’t walk around thinking they are dreaming. If you are one of those who can’t distinguish between dream and reality that’s fine, others can.
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by FreeIgboho: 2:29pm On Sep 04, 2021
LordReed:
Most humans don’t walk around thinking they are dreaming. If you are one of those who can’t distinguish between dream and reality that’s fine, others can.
QED.
You finally agree. Henceforth you'll stop saying there are things that can be done in "real" life but not in dreams!
Re: Why Should I Be An Atheist? by LordReed(m): 2:32pm On Sep 04, 2021
FreeIgboho:
Stop talking nonsense. Is taking asprin when you have headache same as taking nothing?
The nonsense talker here is you because you won’t acknowledge what is before your very eyes. Placebos are basically sugar pills but to you it is magic because they produced favorable outcome but it’s not magic when a control group that takes nothing gets the same favorable outcome. You won’t acknowledge that the placebo are in fact taking nothing.
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