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FreeIgboho:
QED.
You finally agree. Henceforth you'll stop saying there are things that can be done in "real" life but not in dreams!

I guess you are still dreaming cos I never said such to you.

LordReed:
I guess you are still dreaming cos I never said such to you.

So we agree on one thing - anything that can be done in real life can be done in a dream! All others on this thread don't agree

LordReed:
The nonsense talker here is you because you won’t acknowledge what is before your very eyes. Placebos are basically sugar pills but to you it is magic because they produced favorable outcome but it’s not magic when a control group that takes nothing gets the same favorable outcome. You won’t acknowledge that the placebo are in fact taking nothing.

You could be the only one who doesn't know that how you feel, your expectations, and what you believe can affect how you heal - if you believe something will heal you, it will!

FreeIgboho:
People can do ANYTHING while dreaming that they can do while awake

You can’t do anything in a dream the way you do things in reality because your dreams only exist in your mind. You can imagine your self climbing stairs or dream of climbing stairs but both are different from actually climbing stairs in “real” life.

KnownUnknown:
You can’t do anything in a dream the way you do things in reality because your dreams only exist in your mind. You can imagine your self climbing stairs or dream of climbing stairs but both are different from actually climbing stairs in “real” life.

People do just that.. Did you see the screenshots I shared? Go read them.

FreeIgboho:
That's why it's in quotes. Our real life may be a dream within another real life. Universe could be so weird that maybe there are multiple real lives and you just dying and waking up successively!

Or maybe you’re creating fantasies and insisting they are realities.

e.g.
We could be alive in multiple dimensions.
We are 5 dimensional beings in a 3-D reality
We exist in the fourth dimension and this reality is a holograph

We are living in time dilation caused by oscillating waves of gravity. The beings caught between tides of time and gravity are what we perceive as ghosts.

FreeIgboho:
People do just that.. Did you see the screenshots I shared? Go read them.

Some people acting out some dreams in reality such as seen in sleepwalking is not evidence of doing things in your dream.

Dreaming of jumping in a pool is different from actually jumping in a pool and if someone jumps in the pool while dreaming, such person would wake up to what you call “reality”.

LordReed:
I did but he’s so conceited he has become like a black hole sucking in light and emitting dangerous radiation, no sense escapes his event horizon.

Lols, are you a Stephen Hawking protégé?

FreeIgboho:
What did you say is impossible in a dream? My bros this has been studied ad infinitum - there is NOTHING you can do in real life that you cannot do in a dream or even durring a false awakening

Both the study and the people that performed the study remain wrong


Show me a proof of you doing XYZ in a dream_let's start from there.

HellVictorinho:
Both the study and the people that performed the study remain wrong


Show me a proof of you doing XYZ in a dream_let's start from there.

I'll add you to something I posted earlier

KnownUnknown:
Some people acting out some dreams in reality such as seen in sleepwalking is not evidence of doing things in your dream.

Dreaming of jumping in a pool is different from actually jumping in a pool and if someone jumps in the pool while dreaming, such person would wake up to what you call “reality”.

Read what I posted again, people physically drove, fought, killed, did everything while dreaming - could have also been killed

KnownUnknown:
Or maybe you’re creating fantasies and insisting they are realities.

e.g.
We could be alive in multiple dimensions.
We are 5 dimensional beings in a 3-D reality
We exist in the fourth dimension and this reality is a holograph

We are living in time dilation caused by oscillating waves of gravity. The beings caught between tides of time and gravity are what we perceive as ghosts.

Now you are getting it. We don't know for sure. We hope what we perceive as how things are are how they really are, but we may be wrong

FreeIgboho:
Now you are getting it. We don't know for sure. We hope what we perceive as how things are are how they really are, but we may be wrong

You’re not getting it. Fantasy is not reality. We don’t hope anything about perceiving reality as it is because it’s fundamentally impossible to perceive it as it is due to our physiology.
Regardless, fantasy is not reality. Just abstraction of reality we perceive. Which is what your assertions are.

FreeIgboho:
Read what I posted again, people physically drove, fought, killed, did everything while dreaming - could have also been killed

And they would have been dead in reality. performing actions in reality while dreaming is different from performing actions solely in a dream. One occurs in reality the other occurs in your mind.

FreeIgboho:
You could be the only one who doesn't know that how you feel, your expectations, and what you believe can affect how you heal - if you believe something will heal you, it will!

You should stop taking medicine then just drink water when next you are sick or injured.

FreeIgboho:
So we agree on one thing - anything that can be done in real life can be done in a dream! All others on this thread don't agree

What has it got to do with anything I have been saying?

KnownUnknown:
You’re not getting it. Fantasy is not reality. We don’t hope anything about perceiving reality as it is because it’s fundamentally impossible to perceive it as it is due to our physiology.
Regardless, fantasy is not reality. Just abstraction of reality we perceive. Which is what your assertions are.

The emboldened ends the discussion. You have now gotten it. It can be anything, even things we are simply incapable of imagining, talkless of things we can imagine like those things you listed

A001:
Lols, are you a Stephen Hawking protégé?

I wish I was.

KnownUnknown:
And they would have been dead in reality. performing actions in reality while dreaming is different from performing actions solely in a dream. One occurs in reality the other occurs in your mind.

You said they couldn't do those things while dreaming. You are wrong. They were doing them while dreaming

FreeIgboho:
The emboldened ends the discussion. You have now gotten it. It can be anything, even things we are simply incapable of imagining, talkless of things we can imagine like those things you listed

You didn’t make anyone get anything!! Why do you think that what I said being opposed when it is apparent?

No one here is arguing that we can’t fully perceive reality, they are arguing about you jumping from the apparent truth to fantasies about simulations, afterlife, and god. And your absurd assertion that the things you don’t understand about reality are proof of the “supernatural”

I’m done. You’re too obtuse.

FreeIgboho:
You said they couldn't do those things while dreaming. You are wrong. They were doing them while dreaming

performing actions in reality while dreaming is different from performing actions solely in a dream. The former action occurs in reality while the latter action occurs in your mind.

Dreaming of bludgeoning you to death is different from actually bludgeoning you to death in reality while in a dream state. Christ fucking Jesus!!

KnownUnknown:
You’re not getting it. Fantasy is not reality. We don’t hope anything about perceiving reality as it is because it’s fundamentally impossible to perceive it as it is due to our physiology.
Regardless, fantasy is not reality. Just abstraction of reality we perceive. Which is what your assertions are.

Stop acting like you haven't gotten it. How can you say what is not reality when you just admitted you don't have the ability to know what is reality

KnownUnknown:
performing actions in reality while dreaming is different from performing actions solely in a dream. The former action occurs in reality while the latter action occurs in your mind.

Dreaming of bludgeoning you to death is different from actually bludgeoning you to death in reality while in a dream state. Christ fucking Jesus!!

My friend you are doing it WHILE dreaming - something you said is impossible!
And stop being blasphemous

FreeIgboho:
Stop acting like you haven't gotten it. How can you say what is not reality when you just admitted you don't have the ability to know what is reality

How can you say what’s supernatural when you don’t know what’s reality? And what is supernatural other than superstitious abstractions of reality.

FreeIgboho:
My friend you are doing it WHILE dreaming - something you said is impossible!
And stop being blasphemous

You’re an idiot. Christ fucking Jesus!!

KnownUnknown:
How can you say what’s supernatural when you don’t know what’s reality?

You said what it is NOT. Different from saying what you perceive it to be

You have become insulting and blasphemous. So, end if discussion. Told you guys you lost the argument long ago - which is that we have no way of knowing FOR SURE the true nature of reality.
One by one you have all agreed with me.
QED
Nice chatting with y'all.
Bye byyyyyyyee!!!

KnownUnknown:
You’re an idiot. Christ fucking Jesus!!

A troll of the big headed persuasion.

FreeIgboho:
You said what it is NOT. Different from saying what you perceive it to be

You have become insulting and blasphemous. So, end if discussion. Told you guys you lost the argument long ago - which is that we have no way of knowing FOR SURE the true nature of reality.
One by one you have all agreed with me.
QED
Nice chatting with y'all.

Bye byyyyyyyee!!!

KnownUnknown was wrong when he said it is impossible to perceive reality as it is.



We don't have the same physiology.


My brain functions differently.


I can determine that reality exists in ways to which there's no limit.



You told us so many things without proving anything then concluded that we agreed with you.


But your conclusion only shows you are wrong


Prove otherwise!

LordReed:
What has it got to do with anything I have been saying?

Can you get buried in your dream?

HellVictorinho:
Can you get buried in your dream?

Maybe but what I think is more pertinent is the dream world doesn't have as much fidelity as the real world, either in the way it operates or in the things you see.

LordReed:
Maybe but what I think is more pertinent is the dream world doesn't have as much fidelity as the real world, either in the way it operates or in the things you see.

True, one of the way one can find out he's dreaming, is to look at some text. In a dream written words, text doesn't remain static, it will keep morphing and changing as you attempt to read it. At least that's my personal experience.

DeusXmachina:
True, one of the way one can find out he's dreaming, is to look at some text. In a dream written words, text doesn't remain static, it will keep morphing and changing as you attempt to read it. At least that's my personal experience.

You are on to something think. I have seen books and papers in dreams but I never actually read anything.