Building experts in the house,

Please what are the negative effects a building without a roof is likely to suffer if left that way for months due to impacts from the weather? (Rain and co).

michlins:
And it's 13th September. It's my birthday

It has been an incredible journey

Happy birthday to you.

twinskenny:
We are done with the first decking piping of this units.. moving to the next unit shortly.. adequate piping was provided for both low and high voltage need (electrical, Cctv, satellite tv, fire alarm and all)

Believe this at your own Peril... They go to different Construction site to snap pictures and post here..
TWINSKENNY is a scam... He scammed me of 300k for my borehole project which he is didn't deliver for over 2 months...... he refunded 50k when pressurized here on the forum..

New bees... Don't fall a victim of him...

Hello guys,

Different PoP cement brands below in the market based on availability;
- Arkim
- Portman
- Nejma
- Diamondgips

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PoP Paint
- Contractor
- Glova
- Risen

which comes more recommended?

Thanks

micgray100:

Thanks for your contribution Oga N3xt... On the questions you asked...

1, The guy has only drilled less than 30feets... and we agreed 200 feets above (65meters to 70meters) Every new borers I took there don't even regards the 30feets as a job... they are requesting for full money...150k above ..


2, The additional 100k was paid to him at point of sales of the pipes... this is because he didn't buy the pipes from the initial 200k deposit.. The pipe was bought after his driller develop problem.. I had to used the pipe buying as a way of recovering my money... it tools the intervention of my sister before he could add 50k to my 100k to buy pipes..

3,Like I said earlier.. he bought the pipes because I pressurized him to.. our agreement was that he will buy the pipes from the initial 200k... but when he failed.. I had to force him to buying pipes by 100k to it.

4, I have tried all to reach out to the guy.. he just reads my messages without reply.. He still even upload new jobs he is doing in his watsapp status.. I don't know how TWINSKENNY could relate with such a person..

The 50k offer of TWINSKENNY plus my 50k is just 100k..

the new drillers are charging 200k to 250k currently...

mine is who will balance this remaining balance...

I have requested a 100k refund.. or he TWINSKENNY collects the 100k with me and find who to complete it according to our earlier agreed contract..
Like I always say... this is test to this forum...
I don't want us to deviate from customers satisfaction here... customers sacrificing his hard earn money is not a good omen for us here on this forum...

How will everyone feels if I collect job of designing structural engineering drawings here from someone in the forum without delivery in full.. and tell the client to sacrifice..

it may be anyone tomorrow.. let us call a spade a spade on this forum...

my 2 cents ...

As if It was all prophesy...

Scammer TWINSKENNY..refund my money...

micgray100:

Believe this at your own Peril... They go to different Construction site to snap pictures and post here..
TWINSKENNY is a scam... He scammed me of 300k for my borehole project which he is didn't deliver for over 2 months...... he refunded 50k when pressurized here on the forum..

New bees... Don't fall a victim of him...

With all due respect sir, Don't see you are fast becoming a nuisance in this thread, common the man (twinskenny) only recommended a driller to you, which I don't see any crime in that .


Why don't you use the same energy you use in dragging Mr twinskenny online to look for the borehole guy maybe your borehole would have been drilled by now.

micgray100:

Believe this at your own Peril... They go to different Construction site to snap pictures and post here..
TWINSKENNY is a scam... He scammed me of 300k for my borehole project which he is didn't deliver for over 2 months...... he refunded 50k when pressurized here on the forum..

New bees... Don't fall a victim of him...

Alaye move on na. What else did you want him to do na ? He should kill himself because he recommended someone to you ?

michlins:
And it's 13th September. It's my birthday

It has been an incredible journey

Happy Birthday. I wish you further success. God bless you. Amen.

micgray100:

Believe this at your own Peril... They go to different Construction site to snap pictures and post here..
TWINSKENNY is a scam... He scammed me of 300k for my borehole project which he is didn't deliver for over 2 months...... he refunded 50k when pressurized here on the forum..

New bees... Don't fall a victim of him...

I thought some honorable members here already contributed some Funds for you to reduce your loss. Subsequently, try to do your due diligence before handing out any job.

think positive effect.. it gets stronger. it especially helps your casting, if any.
But at the end, try to fix the roof as soon as you can.

A few months of exposure to rain and sun cannot have serious adverse effect on your build. Just try to get the water to flow off and not pool on the floor.

somehow:
Building experts in the house,

Please what are the negative effects a building without a roof is likely to suffer if left that way for months due to impacts from the weather? (Rain and co).

megacontrol:
think positive effect.. it gets stronger. it especially helps your casting, if any.
But at the end, try to fix the roof as soon as you can.

A few months of exposure to rain and sun cannot have serious adverse effect on your build. Just try to get the water to flow off and not pool on the floor.

Engr Megacontrol

Dreamchaser212:


With all due respect sir, Don't see you are fast becoming a nuisance in this thread, common the man (twinskenny) only recommended a driller to you, which I don't see any crime in that .


Why don't you use the same energy you use in dragging Mr twinskenny online to look for the borehole guy maybe your borehole would have been drilled by now.

You can see above where I posted that I sent TWINSKENNY my money not a driller contractor I don't know his house or family..
I SENT MONEY TO TWINSKENNY..... GET THAT INTO YOUR SKULL.. And you can call me nusiance or what ever name.. when your time comes.. I will know what Nuicance Number to call you too..

SCAMMER TWINSKENNY ... RETURN MY MONEY OOOOOO

justified007:





Alaye move on na. What else did you want him to do na ? He should kill himself because he recommended someone to you ?

Bros. Walahi .. I would have moved on... But when he TWINSKENNY Posting pics about completed jobs here and mine remain completed till date.. My mind Bleeds... Bros.. I know what it takes to gather 300k as a civil servant..

Scammer TWINSKENNY... Return my money and go in peace..

I SENT MONEY INTO YOUR ACCOUNT For borehole job... Refund My money...

megacontrol:
think positive effect.. it gets stronger. it especially helps your casting, if any.
But at the end, try to fix the roof as soon as you can.

A few months of exposure to rain and sun cannot have serious adverse effect on your build. Just try to get the water to flow off and not pool on the floor.

But it pools on the 1st floor decking (in some rooms), then forms vapor-like shapes (water ducts) underneath the decking (the ground floor.)

And what about the blocks with holes? It makes them strong too?

If i wanted it left unroofed for months, I wouldn't be here asking for the negative effects though..

Your response is actually an opposite of what I heard from other builders though but I appreciate.

Chikebrain:

I thought some honorable members here already contributed some Funds for you to reduce your loss. Subsequently, try to do your due diligence before handing out any job.

Bros.. Only Elder Spyder880 pity me and gave me 20k ( May God Continue to bless you Elder Spyder880)..

BRO Chikebrain.. My loss is till running to many thousands of naira... I tried all I could to percify TWINSKENNY to refund me substantial amount.. He said I should go to hell... It shows the real scammer he is...

SCAMMER TWINSKENNY .. REFUND MY MONEY AND GO IN PEACE..

I sent money to TWINSKENNY account .... he didn't do my job...

please professionals in the house, kindly scrutinize roofing of shop quotation with 28feet length and 18feet width by sizes below
2X2 - 70 pieces
2X3 - 90 pieces
2X4 - 130 Pieces

many thanks in advance

CAVEAT: I am not a builder. You should probably listen to YOUR builder.

We leave carcass unroofed for long spells without issues.
We only do contemporary designs with flat/hidden roofs, which are only a fraction of the entire surface area. Plus frame structure always.
So it is continually exposed from beginning through the different stages and till the end.
We have all professionals on our projects 100% of the time.

Even after you roof, is weather (water/sun) forbidden to touch buildings for its lifetime?


Thank you.

somehow:


But it pools on the 1st floor decking (in some rooms), then forms vapor-like shapes (water ducts) underneath the decking (the ground floor.)

And what about the blocks with holes? It makes them strong too?

If i wanted it left unroofed for months, I wouldn't be here asking for the negative effects though..

Your response is actually an opposite of what I heard from other builders though but I appreciate.

Is there any one selling 300 x 1200mm tiles here. I need them for my site.

Quality has a price. Whenever you want to do quality iron works,call me.

It won't be cheap but it will be worth every kobo spent

megacontrol:
CAVEAT: I am not a builder. You should probably listen to YOUR builder.

We leave carcass unroofed for long spells without issues.
We only do contemporary designs with flat/hidden roofs, which are only a fraction of the entire surface area. Plus frame structure always.
So it is continually exposed from beginning through the different stages and till the end.
We have all professionals on our projects 100% of the time.

Even after you roof, is weather (water/sun) forbidden to touch buildings for its lifetime?


Thank you.

The builders i spoke about aren't my "builders"

Thank you for your views though.

3:1..

Would like to read more views on this for broader knowledge.

micgray100:


Bros.. Only Elder Spyder880 pity me and gave me 20k ( May God Continue to bless you Elder Spyder880)..

BRO Chikebrain.. My loss is till running to many thousands of naira... I tried all I could to percify

Engineer, it’s very obvious that the gentle man does not owe you shishi, he merely assisted you. Go after the borehole guy or move on.
Stop this unnecessary name calling. Trolling doesn’t even seem to be your thing as you’re not even handling it nicely.
I can understand how difficult it is to raise money Sometimes.
If Your side hustles (CAC registration and structural design) are nothing to you on this thread, allow the man to do his own business in peace because really, he doesn’t owe you and you err for calling him scam.
E seun.

MrOkenwa:


Engineer, it’s very obvious that the gentle man does not owe you shishi, he merely assisted you. Go after the borehole guy or move on.
Stop this unnecessary name calling. Trolling doesn’t even seem to be your thing as you’re not even handling it nicely.
I can understand how difficult it is to raise money Sometimes.
If Your side hustles (CAC registration and structural design) are nothing to you on this thread, allow the man to do his own business in peace because really, he doesn’t owe you and you err for calling him scam.
E seun.

So far is not your money involve. you can easily say move on... When its to your turn.. I will remind you of your statement above...

And point of correction.. He did no assistance than to collect my money and didn't deliver the job as we agreed..
I am happy you understand how it is to raise money..
My side hustles clients will tell you I don't collect money from people and don't deliver.. AsK TWINSKENNY himself.. I help him register his company and I deliver to him... I can count more than 10 elders here I have helped design engineering drawings and done CAC for them.. Ask Oga N3xt.. He will tell you my achievement...

Tell him TWINSKENNY to refund the money I paid to his account or deliver as agreed.... Peace will rain...

Scammer TWINSKENNY ... refund my money sent to your account...

somehow:


But it pools on the 1st floor decking (in some rooms), then forms vapor-like shapes (water ducts) underneath the decking (the ground floor.)

And what about the blocks with holes? It makes them strong too?

If i wanted it left unroofed for months, I wouldn't be here asking for the negative effects though..

Your response is actually an opposite of what I heard from other builders though but I appreciate.

bitumen membranes, concrete floor hardners, sealants and other several concrete water proofing treatments and chemicals, are usually applied on the roof slab it can last for up to 25 years and water will not pass through your roof slab, another thing is to ensure that your roof gutters are not blocked, it is also necessary the roof slab is slightly sloped so water will not be logged in one area so it will always flow out, but here in Nigeria we just build build our concrete slab and leave it bare to rain water, of course with time water will sip through it.

MrOkenwa:


Always err on the side of caution when dealing with any artisan, irrespective of the positive feedback and recommendations.
Escrow services can be adopted in some cases, like sales, supplies.
As for artisans and contractors, Maybe forum members with good experience on how best to handle contractor/client cases will have more to write on that.
At least, do your due diligence on whoever you want to engage, have your recovery plans in place and watch your back. If by chance the deal goes south, activate your recovery plans.

Mr Okenwa... Can't Believe you post the above on this same forum... You even specify you will activate your recovery plans...

Sometimes.. we should try and practise what we preach..
I am not surprise Sha.. many two sided mouth are on this forum

New Bees.. Shine your Eyes here on this trend.... REFERAL SCAMING plenty here o..

Referal Scammer TWINSKENNY... refund my money sent to your account..

Aforxzy:
Is there any one selling 300 x 1200mm tiles here. I need them for my site.

I know someone who does, location?

micgray100:


You can see above where I posted that I sent TWINSKENNY my money not a driller contractor I don't know his house or family..
I SENT MONEY TO TWINSKENNY..... GET THAT INTO YOUR SKULL.. And you can call me nusiance or what ever name.. when your time comes.. I will know what Nuicance Number to call you too..

SCAMMER TWINSKENNY ... RETURN MY MONEY OOOOOO

With all due respect sir, you are very senseless, you just come online to speak trash without thinking, you sent money to twinskenny to do what?? is twinskenny the driller, did you send money to twinskenny to drill borehole for you or you sent money to the borehole guy through twinskenny.cause I don't understand you any longer


Bro stop constituting nuisance on this forum, at least engr spyder880 gave you 20k( which he's regretting now) and twinskenny himself gave you 50k, making 70k and you said you wanted a refund of 100k, go and collect the rest from the borehole guy and stop being a nuisance on this thread.


If you quote this post thunder go fire you.

Dreamchaser212:


...making 70k and you said you wanted a refund of 100k...

Is this the case @micgray100?

micgray100:


Mr Okenwa... Can't Believe you post the above on this same forum... You even specify you will activate your recovery plans...

Sometimes.. we should try and practise what we preach..
I am not surprise Sha.. many two sided mouth are on this forum..

In my own recovery plans, I won’t go after the wrong person. I don’t chase shadows.

Early this year, I paid 12m naira to a contractor that I met through my uncle. He left my site before getting to the agreed milestone. I went after the contractor, even though I paid him through my uncle.
My uncle provided me the needed support including the evidence of the payment he made to the contractor’s account.
My uncle would have been found culpable, if he had prevented me from getting his friend (contractor) arrested for fraud.

Did twinskeny prevented you from arresting the guy? Did he hinder you from taking any decision to recover your money or to facilitate the completion of the job?
Did you ever come up with any recovery plan? other than to come on here to blackmail him so that elders will compel him to pay you.

As long as you didn’t pay him for supervision, na help him help you oga.

Dreamchaser212:


With all due respect sir, you are very senseless, you just come online to speak trash without thinking, you sent money to twinskenny to do what?? is twinskenny the driller, did you send money to twinskenny to drill borehole for you or you sent money to the borehole guy through twinskenny.cause I don't understand you any longer


Bro stop constituting nuisance on this forum, at least engr spyder880 gave you 20k( which he's regretting now) and twinskenny himself gave you 50k, making 70k and you said you wanted a refund of 100k, go and collect the rest from the borehole guy and stop being a nuisance on this thread.


If you quote this post thunder go fire you.

First of All.. Thunder know the house Number of who to fire between you and I because thunder himself know this issue don't don't concern your fore father's generations...

Secondly, Your Family old enough like your mother, father and grand father are very senseless..

Haven said the above... let me come to this issue your fish brain raised... Read in between the lines when I said I don't know the driller from hell... I don't know him., I don't know what he looks like, I don't know his house or knows anyone that know him except TWINSKENNY...

Let your insect brain educate you that the reason why I paid to twinskenny was not only referal but an assurance that he is involved and will monitor the guy since I am not on ground which he knows...

Your senseless fool don't need to come spit trash here because everyone is talking...
May you continue as your name depicts in life... thuorrrrrrr.. Asegun...

MrOkenwa:


In my own recovery plans, I won’t go after the wrong person. I don’t chase shadows.

Early this year, I paid 12m naira to a contractor that I met through my uncle. He left my site before getting to the agreed milestone. I went after the contractor, even though I paid him through my uncle.
My uncle provided me the needed support including the evidence of the payment he made to the contractor’s account.
My uncle would have been found culpable, if he had prevented me from getting his friend (contractor) arrested for fraud.

Did twinskeny prevented you from arresting the guy? Did he hinder you from taking any decision to recover your money or to facilitate the completion of the job?
Did you ever come up with any recovery plan? other than to come on here to blackmail him so that elders will compel him to pay you.

As long as you didn’t pay him for supervision, na help him help you oga.

I am glad your brain have rebooted a little to know the reason why my recovery plan was on TWINSKENNY..
in your case.. you know the contractor... in my case... I don't know the contractor or know what he looks like... if I see him face to face I can't recognise him.. lastly... help is different from collecting money and removing commission ...

Try and read in between lines..

I was a gentle one before here on the forum when people think I am slow...
I gave TWINSKENNY 2 months to settle this matter... rather he keeps posting me..

Take your time and read all that transpired well .. you will know him TWINSKENNY was not a saint from the begining...

BrabusNG:


Is this the case @micgray100?

Bro N3xt.. I can say that is the case.....because I gave TWINSKENNY earlier gentleman agreement one on one to refund only100k from the whole money and let me count my remaining loss... Cos I was also human... the total lost is about 200k...

This guy twinskenny took me for granted and ranted that I should go to hell, that he could only refund 50k..

So the 100k as claimed was a peaceful settlement deal between us... which he didn't take advantage off..