I lived in a Face-Me-I-Slap-You (Face-Me-I-Face-You) with not just the landlord but his two adult children. His son stays in one of the rooms with his children and wife. The other, his daughter, divorced or chased from husband's house, stays in another room with her own children. Their aged father (the landlord) occasionally picked quarrel with her and would ask her to leave his house, go back to her husband, find a husband etc. She seriously contemplated moving out to go rent another house after a quarrel one day.

I don't know what happened in her marriage. She thinks her father and brother hate and don't want to see her, even said her brother wants to kill her. She and her brother quarrel sometimes too. But after a short while, the malice would end and she and her father and brother would be on talking terms again. She tries very hard to avoid her brother's wife by all means though because na gangster wey me sef confirm. Their children play with each other with caution. Her brother's children are not always around sha as they go to shop with their mum and their dad goes to his place of work too.

Landlord is very fond of his son; they don't quarrel at all as he literally sees him as the man in charge and true son of his father. I think the landlord's wife, their mum, is late. His daughter is sick of the quarrels, insults and discrimination. She once approached me to discuss that she takes care of their father with her own money from her business (expecting some of the rent-money from him for that at least sometimes) and how she was told to leave the better room I took to another one. Basically, she was trying to make me understand that if her brother can stay and enjoy cordial relationship with their father, why can't she too? I can't categorically say if she takes care of their father with her own money. Maybe sometimes she does. I've seen the man cook in his own room with his own gas.

Now my question is, can a man and a woman ever get the same treatment? We are struggling to achieve equal treatment in other spheres of life. But in family circle, it is stricter (Family in the contexts of the one you come from and the one that comes from you). Is woman failing to know the boundaries in this equality game? Is woman failing to take her place as woman.

Her only friend in the neighborhood is a woman living in a rented apartment nearby with her children. Her husband has been away for months for God knows why. Hustle for a better life? Runaway husband? I don't know. She keeps in touch with her father-in-law and mother-in-law from time to time. I overheard her on the phone with her husband as she questioned his continued long absence. Her husband asked of his children and she picked offense for only asking of his children, asked him what he expects her to do anytime she needs him around as her husband for intimacy. He said he trusts her. She forms church and self-discipline and all but things still fit dey happen untop all of that. If she is the stubborn wife type as I suspect she is, then she is on a very long thing and she is not even aware of it yet because every man wants peace of mind.

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Kanbe:
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Why will there not be women bashing since you women of the modern age are now forming woke and want to be seen and regarded like men out of either jealousy or na Devil don return to use una again (just like the Garden of Eden story).

Women should know their place and take it. Men too. But women's own is becoming unbecoming.

MNDY:


Why will there not be women bashing since you women of the modern age are now forming woke and want to be seen and regarded like men out of either jealousy or na Devil don return to use una again (just like the Garden of Eden story).

Women should know their place and take it. Men too. But women's own is becoming unbecoming.

Whatever, mate

MNDY:


Why will there not be women bashing since you women of the modern age are now forming woke and want to be seen and regarded like men out of either jealousy or na Devil don return to use una again (just like the Garden of Eden story).

Women should know their place and take it. Men too. But women's own is becoming unbecoming.

And this is the same person that will be looking for visa to go abroad where there's equality

MNDY:
Now my question is, can a man and a woman ever get the same treatment? We are struggling to achieve equal treatment in other spheres of life. But in family circle, it is stricter (Family in the contexts of the one you come from and the one that comes from you). Is woman failing to know the boundaries in this equality game?

Is woman failing to take her place as woman.

You failed to explain why exactly you believe it is difficult in a family circle for both males and females to receive equal treatment.

Also, you mention the existence of a boundary as far as what you refer to as "equality game", but you never in fact give an example to help us see what it is you mean.

Honestly, from the story you have told us here, I fail to see reason why you believe a male and female child cannot recieve equal treatment.

MNDY:
1. Why will there not be women bashing since you women of the modern age are now forming woke and want to be seen and regarded like men out of either jealousy or na Devil don return to use una again (just like the Garden of Eden story).

Women should know their place and take it. Men too. But women's own is becoming unbecoming.

1. Why exactly are you against women waking up to the potential that has always been theirs from creation? What exactly is your reason against this?

2. You say women should know their place, place assigned them by whom?

Every single/divorced/seperated woman with children is an aggressive tiger that must be avoided at all cost.

Deo1986:
Every single/divorced/seperated woman with children is an aggressive tiger that must be avoided at all cost.

Why do you believe this of every female single parent out there?

Kobojunkie:
Why do you believe this of every female single parent out there?

I grew up in a community, i saw them come back home with children in tow. I saw them fight fathers, brothers, relatives, friends. Just for their children to have a place, and be accepted.

Kobojunkie:
1. Why exactly are you against women waking up to the potential that has always been theirs from creation? What exactly is your reason against this?

2. You say women should know their place, place assigned them by whom?

1. Which potential has always been theirs from creation?

2. Their place assigned by nature.

Deo1986:
I grew up in a community, i saw them come back home with children in tow. I saw them fight fathers, brothers, relatives, friends. Just for their children to have a place, and be accepted.

Is it wrong for a parent for fight for her rejected cobs to be at least accepted in her own father's home?

siofra:


And this is the same person that will be looking for visa to go abroad where there's equality

I would be more concerned with what brought me there than what is happening there.

I am discussing it here with fellow Nigerians because I belong here and I am here in Nigeria.

MNDY:

1. Which potential has always been theirs from creation?

2. Their place assigned by nature.

1. They obviously believe there is something that needs to be achieved and that thing has been inside of them , not acquired along the way, at least according to their claim.

2. What place is assigned them by nature?

Kobojunkie:
You failed to explain why exactly you believe it is difficult in a family circle for both males and females to receive equal treatment.

Also, you mention the existence of a boundary as far as what you refer to as "equality game", but you never in fact give an example to help us see what it is you mean.

Honestly, from the story you have told us here, I fail to see reason why you believe a male and female child cannot recieve equal treatment.

You really think the God of creation who has made a man and woman to be different from each other, is stu.pid

MNDY:

You really think the God of creation who has made a man and woman to be different from each other, is stu.pid

Please expand on this thought of yours.

So God created a man with different reproductive structures than that of a woman. How does this translate to meaning woman folk should not be treated equally in family and society as men?

Deo1986:
I grew up in a community, i saw them come back home with children in tow. I saw them fight fathers, brothers, relatives, friends. Just for their children to have a place, and be accepted.

Forming strong to carry the burden of the children on their own, something even a man cannot do alone.
They are bitter with the idea that they have been used and dumped and the reality that to get another man may become very difficult. They take that bitterness out on everything. That is why we advise that as emotional beings, they should always be careful. There is no marital problem that doesn't have a solution.

MNDY:
Forming strong to carry the burden of the children on their own, something even a man cannot do alone.

They are bitter with the idea that they have been used and dumped and the reality that to get another man may become very difficult. They take that bitterness out on everything. That is why we advise that as emotional beings, they should always be careful. There is no marital problem that doesn't have a solution.

forming strong to carry the burden of the children alone? So when a woman is left alone to fend for her kids... she is wrong to buck up and ensure her cobs are not mowed over by the world?

Sounds a lot like you harbor quite a lot of bitterness against them yourself. Are you certain you are not here projecting as that is what it seems more like here.

You are told the women in question fight for their children to be accepted, yet rather than consider that, you lampoon them for being, according to you, "used and dumped".

Kobojunkie:
Please expand on this thought of yours.

So God created a man with different reproductive structures than that of a woman. How does this translate to meaning woman folk should not be treated equally in family and society as men?

It goes beyond that.

Women are emotional beings and that influences everything about them.
Men are not emotional beings and that influences everything about them.

MNDY:

It goes beyond that.

Women are emotional beings and that influences everything about them.
Men are not emotional beings and that influences everything about them.

So, the emotions you refer to have been linked to hormones and these hormones linked to reproductive structures, are they not? So the same thing....

So , again, God created a man with different reproductive structures than that of a woman. How does this translate to meaning woman folk should not be treated equally in family and society as men?

MNDY:


Forming strong to carry the burden of the children on their own, something even a man cannot do alone.
They are bitter with the idea that they have been used and dumped and the reality that to get another man may become very difficult. They take that bitterness out on everything. That is why we advise that as emotional beings, they should always be careful. There is no marital problem that doesn't have a solution.

in a every marital quarrel, the man always win the laurel

Kobojunkie:
Please expand on this thought of yours.

So God created a man with different reproductive structures than that of a woman. How does this translate to meaning woman folk should not be treated equally in family and society as men?

It goes beyond that.

Women are emotional beings and that influences everything about them.
Men are not emotional beings and that influences everything about them.

Kobojunkie:
Is it wrong for a parent for fight for her rejected cobs to be at least accepted in her own father's home?

Fight? Yeah it is wrong of her to even go back to papa's house after marriage.

MNDY:

It goes beyond that.

Women are emotional beings and that influences everything about them.
Men are not emotional beings and that influences everything about them.

So, did God who created both women and men, somewhere state that that which is influenced by emotions is inferior or of lesser value to that which is not and hence both ought not to be treated equally?

I am trying to find the link between your claims and any of the questions I asked or even this here topic.

Deo1986:
Fight? Yeah it is wrong of her to even go back to papa's house after marriage.

It's wrong of her to go back to Papa's house after marriage, why?

Is the female child disowned at time of marriage, this by her father, for her not to seek refuge with her parents when and if the marriage ends?

Kobojunkie:
forming strong to carry the burden of the children alone? So when a woman is left alone to fend for her kids... she is wrong to buck up and ensure her cobs are not mowed over by the world?

Sounds a lot like you harbor quite a lot of bitterness against them yourself. Are you certain you are not here projecting as that is what it seems more like here.

You are told the women in question fight for their children to be accepted, yet rather than consider that, you lampoon her indeed for being, according to you, "used and dumped".

Hey! I don't habour any bitterness against women. I understand them as emotional beings and deal with them as such. I just don't like the situation they put themselves because of lack of control of their own emotion in their union with a man; same reason why even women don't get along with each other too. Every problem on this earth has a solution no matter who is at fault - MAN OR WOMAN.

MNDY:

Hey! I don't habour any bitterness against women. I understand them as emotional beings and deal with them as such. I just don't like the situation they put themselves because of lack of control of their own emotion in their union with a man; same reason why even women don't get along with each other too. Every problem on this earth has a solution no matter who is at fault - MAN OR WOMAN.

How exactly do you deal with them as emotional beings?

Women put themselves in situations because of lack of control of their own emotions in their union with a man?

Women don't get along with women because of lack of control of their emotions, so when men don't get along with each other what is the reason for that?

Since you keep alluding to it, here goes! So, every problem on this earth has a solution no matter who is at fault.. so when friends decide to go their separate ways after realizing they no longer have anything left between themselves, that is not a solution in of itself?

Kobojunkie:
So, did God who created both women and men, somewhere state that that which is influenced by emotions is inferior or of lesser value to that which is not and hence both ought not to be treated equally?

I am trying to find the link between your claim and any of the questions I asked or even this here topic.

It is now your gender is forming to be awakened and/or claiming to realize that you are cheated by nature, feeling less of yourself. Things were not like that before. Does that not make you suspect any hand of the devil in it?

Try as hard as you can to deny that I have not addressed any of your questions and linked my claims. You raised the points related to the topic of this thread for us to talk about. Why are you still asking if they are linked to the topic?

MNDY:

1. It is now your gender is forming to be awakened and/or claiming to realize that you are cheated by nature, feeling less of yourself. Things were not like that before.

2. Does that not make you suspect any hand of the devil in it?

3. Try as hard as you can to deny that I have not addressed any of your questions and linked my claims. You raised the points related to the topic of this thread for us to talk about. Why are you still asking if they are linked to the topic?

You are still not being coherent at all..

1. Cheated by what nature? Who exactly told you nature did any cheating here and what has nature to do with women and this feeling less of themselves you claim.

2. First you roped God in to this but never got around to explaining exactly what it is that you claim God did and how it resulted in that which you continue to claim. Now you want to rope the devil too into this, why?

3. You are not making any sense at all is why I am trying to understand the rationale behind your baseless, for lack of a better word, tirade.

Why not reel this in and attempt a direct answer to at least one of the questions I have posed to help me maybe see where you are even coming from with any of this.

Why am I still asking? I have time to kill.

Kobojunkie:
How exactly do you deal with them as emotional beings?

Women put themselves in situations because of lack of control of their own emotions in their union with a man?

Women don't get along with women because of lack of control of their emotions, so when men don't get along with each other what is the reason for that?

Since you keep alluding to it, here goes! So, every problem on this earth has a solution no matter who is at fault.. so when friends decide to go their separate ways after realizing they no longer have anything left between themselves, that is not a solution in of itself?

Men are logical beings. They must have reached a compromise to decide not to get along.

Yes, women put themselves in situations because of their emotion. If they can't be logical, at least they should control their emotion to give way for a solution. BUT NO. Woman nor go gree.

You take separation of couples for a good solution? Or friends. That is exactly the led-by-emotion nature of a woman I am talking about.

MNDY:
1. Men are logical beings. They must have reached a compromise to decide not to get along.

2. Yes, women put themselves in situations because of their emotion. If they can't be logical, at least they should control their emotion to give way for a solution. BUT NO. Woman nor go gree.

3. You take separation of couples for a good solution? Or friends. That is exactly the led-by-emotion nature of a woman I am talking about.

1. Men are logical beings? Yet another unsubstantiated claim..

2. Give me an example of one of these situations you keep accusing women of getting themselves in because of their emotions , so I can better follow this your line of reasoning abeg....

3. So, two friends deciding to go their separate ways is not a logical solution to a situation where two egos are unwilling to bend?

Kobojunkie:
You are still not being coherent at all..

1. Cheated by what nature? Who exactly told you nature did any cheating here and what has nature to do with women and this feeling less of themselves you claim.

2. First you roped God in to this but never got around to explaining exactly what it is that you claim God did and how it resulted in that which you continue to claim. Now you want to rope the devil too into this, why?

3. You are not making any sense at all is why I am trying to understand the rationale behind your baseless, for lack of a better word, tirade.

Why not reel this in and attempt a direct answer to at least one of the questions I have posed to help me maybe see where you are even coming from with any of this.

Why am I still asking? I have time to kill.

The impression the equality struggle gives is that the female gender feels cheated and less of herself as a woman and wishes to be a man for her to enjoy all the "privileges" a man enjoys, instead of being comfortable as a woman and taking her place (i.e be feminine).

God and the devil are involved in this because one part of this conversation is about marking/maintaining the gender differences by God. The other part is about challenging that arrangement by God. Somewhat like what happened in the Garden of Eden. I am a Christian and believer of the holy scriptures.

Seems your emotion is getting the best of you already for you not to grab any of my points so far. Hence, you ask me back my own questions again in some of your replies.

I have time to kill too my lady.